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First I want you look st your SIL differently. I am sure she is more thsn happy your husband is making mistakes. She has felt like a failure alone for a while now. It’s not anything against you, but more that she is glad not to be on the sinking ship alone.

Also, only October is not long. It took me 2 years to start to feel I would survive this all. It’s hard to detach when they are attached. Personally I don’t think I saw anything clearly until I went no contact.  So, dont be hard on yourself. You have a lot of healing to do and processing trauma and loss while they are still around adding to it, well it’s almost impossible

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AL, you have just had the rug pulled from beneath you, without any warning.  While you have been dealing with this since October, that amount of time is a drop in the bucket when it comes to the undoing of an M.  And, add to that the emotions that keep swirling.  It is difficult to get a grasp on anything because nothing is stable and nothing is settled.  Grief is no linear.  It ebbs and flows, just like every other emotion.

As far as everyone telling you it is HIS D,  well, of course he started it, but that does not mean he's the only one who can finish it, unless that is what you want for yourself.

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Big hugs, AL. It is not up to any of us here what you choose to do. You are the one who must live your own life with honesty and dignity, and even though we can give you our perspective, there is no "right" or "wrong" that we can give you on how to handle it. It's all "wrong", but not because of anything YOU have done! The unfairness of it all is always a heartbreak.

I clung to the "it's HIS divorce" and let mine file back in 2012, and that put me at a financial and emotional disadvantage. In hindsight, I wish I had made this less of a moral decision and more about what affected my own personal physical, emotional, and logical needs, and counted less on the MLC ever being rational or coming to some sort of self-awareness that me into consideration. He never has. But that is a sample of one, as your situation may allow you to act differently. I encourage you though to make your decisions on what is long-term best for you and your kids. I don't think we can rush healing, but I do think we can slow it down by letting others drive the car for too long. I hope things feel better for you soon.
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Update: ok so he's still here and has been, for the most part, on good behavior - pitching in, trying hard with kids, in a good mood etc. I have been on a knife's edge if I'm honest, but there have been genuine, warm moments between us too, which felt good. It was like remembering an old friend I loved but who is no longer in my life.
Hope is a funny thing. For some people they struggle to find it - for me, I struggle with the opposite. An eternal optimist, I struggle to let it go. It's not just about my H, it was about my father, it has been about lots of things I wanted in my life. I never give up on people.
His affair is ongoing and it's clear he is now looking ahead at his new life. We had guests over for a long planned BBQ on Sunday - a family we barely know - and the entire conversation turned to when our babies were little. And my H and I reminisced along with them, they were happy days and we were really united as parents - and it was incredbily painful. It felt so fraudulent too, us sitting there you would never, ever have guessed we had problems, let alone were planning a divorce. It hurt me but he seemed unaffected. He was slightly cold to me after - did not look me in the eye when he said goodnight, so maybe it got to him a tiny bit.
Today he told me I was welcome to tell his mom the truth - she had messaged me to see if I was ok - and so I did. Another way he is chickening out but to be honest, i wanted to. I can't write back 'all good here! all ok!" bc again, I can't do that. I did not reply to hers tho, I am not starting any dialogue or conversation. It was just a factual update as I will be seeing her in person in a few weeks and can't communicate nicely without google translate either.
People in this group have told me DO NOT BRING UP DIVORCE - it is HIS divorce etc etc. And yet I am gunning for it. I have really asked myself why I can't just let this play out and 'see who he picks' but the thing is, I can't live with myself. I can't live with myself if I accept this. I'm not judging anyone who does, everyone has to make their own call on this kind of thing - but knowing that there is one person in particular he loves and it's not me, one person he shares his day with and it's not me, one person he sleeps with and it's not me etc etc. and I am officially his 'wife' makes my heart want to stop.
I know a divorce decree won't take away this pain - and it will be even worse bc we have to tell our kids and deal with their emotional fall out - and it will be FINAL - and that will hurt enormously. But the fraudulent nature of this, the constant sting of rejection, watching him disappear to make a phone call, knowing I'm second choice and not what he wants, the state of limbo it feels like this is - it feels the harder cross to bear.
How can I still be this SAD? This has been going on since last October. I thought I was thru some of this pain, this is not new information. What's new is that now, he is sure, he wants it too.
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Our Community / Whiplash from clinging boomerang
« Latest by Happylight on May 08, 2024, 01:57:14 PM »
He continues to be at home, but nothing has been "said."  The other night he went to a bike event and I was super suprised when he came back that evening.  I didn't comment at all--I really don't know if he is looking for a reaction or not. 

I get the sense that sometimes our kids and all their events and all the noise (especially our youngest) is overwhelming. **Sarcasm warning** I get it, its overwhelming for me too, and some of us haven't had a break from it in the last 18 months--while others, well, have gotten to be part time parents.  There are so many things that I think in my head, but don't actually say out loud. 

Journaling events:  He cleaned up the kitchen for me and told me to rest when I got home from work.  He also was changing out exhaust fans in the bathroom.  He hadn't really done any tasks around the house in the last year +.  Even when he is going to leave, he comes over and hangs out at the house. 

Our son's 21st birthday is Friday, and he plans to be here to celebrate, but he did tell me he "has someplace he as to be" this weekend.  I am thinking MC business, but I don't know for sure, and I didn't ask.  I do wonder if he even remembers that it is mother's day. He has never been good about remembering that ahead of time (even in the good days), and sometimes hasn't even really done anything for it, so I guess this year probably won't be any different. 


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Our Community / 35 pages of stories in 2017, where are all those LBSs now?
« Latest by in it on May 08, 2024, 01:13:48 PM »
I don't post I read and address wherever I might see abuse happening. In my humble opinion some LBS put up with way too much crap from the Mlcer.
I first posted in 2010.
I've moved on.
Total NC for 11 years.
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Our Community / Yet another love, but not in love.
« Latest by Anoi on May 08, 2024, 10:49:38 AM »
Of course he is OK with you dating.

Why?

Because it justifies (for him) what he is doing. "See, she didn't really love me either. She's already going out with other guys...." etc.

That is typical MLC behaviour only to be seconded by the Ï don't want you but I don't want anyone else to have you either" nonsense.

I am not sure about the second part. He doesn't want me and he is really happy to get rid of me no matter which way...
I don't see any love from him, though he said that he loves me and he hates me the other day. I see apathie. I don't think there is even a slight chance of reconciliation and so he is really okey with me seeing other ppl or doing whatever, nothing seems to change his opinion.
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The whole "waiting for answers" thing can be really nerve wracking, especially for those that have to have everything planned in advance.... I tend to be more flexible and can adapt but not everyone is like that
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Our Community / My journey post D
« Latest by MadLuv on May 07, 2024, 11:39:28 AM »
It’s weird because I think they pic enablers. I also dont require many answers anymore, because the answer is I did not know him. To me he is a covert narcissist and when I look back I can clearly see it, but at the time and throughout I just thought he is insecure and that was endearing. Now, I believe thats what he learned to be. It all still goes back to childhood. Whether major traumas or just and inattentive parent. Most people realize their issues and we spend a lifetime working through our traumas with out hurting anyone, but just working on us and getting better. Then there is the MLCer who runs and escapes instead of looking within.

I also agree with the boredom. To me that is what life becomes and you have to appreciate and be able to sit in normalcy. Appreciate isn’t what they need. The voices are to loud in quiet. Just my opinion.
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Our Community / 35 pages of stories in 2017, where are all those LBSs now?
« Latest by gman242 on May 07, 2024, 11:14:04 AM »
Just throwing my two cents in here.. I think that at the root of it, the MLC'er got that way through being at some level, avoidant attached and for that reason alone, they are very, very unlikely to take an responsibility in repairing the relationship.

We all more or less agree that these crisis happen through FOO issues ad trauma and our spouses have spent the better parts of their lives avoiding dealing with their pain and issues and we have no reason or expectation to think that it will change in the future. The fact that many of these MLCers end right back up into situations they claim they wanted out of with us is proof enough I think or even the constant replay. They're so used to keeping on a mask, keeping everyone in the dark about their inner issues and when the jig is up, one way or the other, they just move on and continue the charade.

That's literally what happened to me. When my ex and I first got together, I woke up in bed alone to find her sitting in the dark holding a knife to her arm crying. Years later, I realized now I caused her crisis by quiet quitting my marriage. So she began cheating, got pregnant and got herself situated with OM and then she tried to kill herself again. I went an visited her in the crisis center. She was a crying wreck, sorry for everything that had happened, telling me everything was a mistake and that she didn't belong there and then when visiting time was up, she literally shrugged it off, became "normal" and walked back into the center. The transformation was mind-blowing and truly revealing of this kind of "mask" that they can wear. Looking back now, it was obvious, how many times she moved from family member to family member, job to job, boyfriend to boyfriend and so on, as she was exposed for who she was.

That was my situation, but anyway, my advice is is they want to go, let them. You focus on you. Live. Live the life you want to, that you should have, that you've always yearned for.. whatever it is, do it, be it. Don't let regret, fear or shame hold you back or keep you holding on. None of that stopped them from leaving. It shouldn't stop you from living either.

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