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Just seems a distinct impossibility when I hear how completely into each other they are.

Not hearing about it is part of the Great Comms Black Out that will save your sanity. If friends are telling you, kindly ask them not to. It's also so much better in helping maintain friendships. The MLC drama chaos circus spreads its poison.

If you can find another route each week, even better. If you can't, crank up the car stereo, eyes forward!
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Our Community / J to the B part 3
« Latest by sachertorte on Today at 08:02:53 AM »
Last week I started Slaughterhouse 5 by Kurt Vonnegut Jr. (I'm not sure if I've read it before or not.) For those who haven't read it, the protagonist was kidnapped by an alien race that had mastered time travel. Because of that, they believe that everyone exists simultaneously in every moment of their life. When someone dies or experiences something bad, they don't regard it as bad; it's just an event on a timeline while the same person is experiencing great joy at some other point on their timeline. When something bad happens, they only respond with, "So it goes."

Looking at it from that perspective, even if I'm not thrilled now, JB of 5-6 years ago was very happy and excited for the future, and always will be. JB of two years ago was miserable and always will be (so it goes), but JB of tomorrow may be quite happy.

(Apologies if I offended the literati with that synopsis; I'm an engineer for a reason.)




JB, as a self-anointed literatus (is that the singular?) I wholeheartedly second your synopsis! (Which Vonnegut is it that starts with the Dresden Allies bombing?) I came across the exact same point in the show The Good Place (not very literary of me I know; the audio-visual has Sirened me away from books more than I care to dwell on; exH was insecure about my supposed erudition, being an engineer himself. I wish we could have worked on that.) The thought helped me to no end in living in peace with my loss. My losses coexist with the bliss of all my relationships, and I step aside to bask in the glow cast by the bliss onto that loss.

It's fantastic to see you work with that angle on this radiant idea. Thanks for sharing and cheers.
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Ignore him as much as possible. Don't drive passed where he lives. Keep your dignity.  No "pick me" dance.
More than likely this new relationship will crash and burn. We've seen it many times. Work on raising your standards.
No one needs someone who will do this kind of thing. Regardless of how they were in any part of the relationship.
Don't get involved with the drama . Maintain your peace.

Unfortunately couldn’t help the drive by and it wasn’t done on purpose….its literally right on the way to somewhere I need to go once a week. It sounds really horrible (and I hate myself for thinking that way) but I hope she hurts him or behaves so immaturely he gets rid of her. Just seems a distinct impossibility when I hear how completely into each other they are. That said, beyond going out drinking and fancy dinners I’m not sure there will be much depth between them
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More than likely this new relationship will crash and burn.

More than likely?  There is no way this relationship survives....

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Ignore him as much as possible. Don't drive passed where he lives. Keep your dignity.  No "pick me" dance.
More than likely this new relationship will crash and burn. We've seen it many times. Work on raising your standards.
No one needs someone who will do this kind of thing. Regardless of how they were in any part of the relationship.
Don't get involved with the drama . Maintain your peace.
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Thankyou both of you. Part of me wonders if all of this is truly midlife crisis or not but his behaviours at least seem to point that way and they are in the least very definitely avoidant.

You will have as much success wondering what green tastes like by dipping your elbow in it..... We can't tell if it was a MLC or if they have simply gone bat-snot off their rocker until time has past and we can look at it i n hindsight..... In the grand scheme, it doesn't matter much WHAT the cause was as much as what happened and how we recover and live our lives afterwards.

It killed me the other day to drive past our old apartment and see her car in my space. The other oddity is him basically replicating where we used to go and what we used to do.
they do that because it is easy - like KayDee said, it is laziness because it is known to them and comfortable.... Some say they repeat things to erase the memories they have of doing the things with us so they can then justify their actions more easily and don't need to feel guilty..... Others say it is just force of habit and they are too lazy to do something new.

I don’t follow this ‘girl’ on social media but she has been doing some odd things and keeps flipping her profiles from private to public to show the dinner dates - all very childish (obviously) and weird.

Bunny Boiler


So…..how do I respond to this from here? I’m no longer the emotional anxious mess I was, and as I say, whilst I don’t have to work with him directly we do pass each other. Do I mirror his ‘blanking’ of me or try and cordially exchange hellos and strike up some conversation somewhere?
In my opinion, you DON'T respond to it.... Doing the "pick me" dance is not going to do you any good and letting him know that you are still waiting int he wings just gives him a false sense of security. You are NOT a"back up plan."  He needs to feel the loss, the lack, that there is a big something missing form his life and then HE needs to figure out what that is.....

Whilst I’m trying to move forward and do ‘me’ I really do want the guy I knew back and don’t know how best to proceed.
There is the rub. "That guy" is gone.... period.... One does not make the trip to Hades and back and remain unchanged. IF he gets his head out of his ..... fog.... he won't be the same person you knew. He will have changed, hopefully for the better but one never knows before hand. You can leave the door open for him to come back but there is no need to scatter crumbs to lead him back that the birds are going to eat anyway.....
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Thankyou both of you. Part of me wonders if all of this is truly midlife crisis or not but his behaviours at least seem to point that way and they are in the least very definitely avoidant.

For now, it may help you to look at the behaviours and less at the label. Imagine doing to him what he is doing to you? It's extremely cold and, quite frankly, immature. I think a lot of us get to the point, mental health crisis or not, where we have to accept that their behaviour is very damaging and their go-to coping is extremely self-centered. However I slice it, my H chose to throw me and our extended family under the bus on his quest for magic happy.  You may think the same of your SO. He seems to have a pattern of running away, this is HIS issue to resolve. Brace yourself for the fact that he may never face it. Sorry.

It killed me the other day to drive past our old apartment and see her car in my space. The other oddity is him basically replicating where we used to go and what we used to do.

I don’t follow this ‘girl’ on social media but she has been doing some odd things and keeps flipping her profiles from private to public to show the dinner dates - all very childish (obviously) and weird.

Yup, that's a 'thing' - laziness, the OW stalking your life, more destructive nails hammered into the relationship you had by a self-destructive man? Could be any of these.

The best thing I did was to stop looking at social media, stop any sort of activity that brought me news or info about my H. Takes willpower, but IMO, brings peace and calm. Your imagination will join the dots and make you think he is having the best of times. But really, he is a man who is on the run from himself, trying to fill his existential vacuum with a twenty something that likely blows smoke up is ass for - well, whatever she gets out of it? She's not your problem, honestly. He is responsible for his actions.


So…..how do I respond to this from here? I’m no longer the emotional anxious mess I was, and as I say, whilst I don’t have to work with him directly we do pass each other. Do I mirror his ‘blanking’ of me or try and cordially exchange hellos and strike up some conversation somewhere?

Whilst I’m trying to move forward and do ‘me’ I really do want the guy I knew back and don’t know how best to proceed.

Stay true to your own values. Keep hold of your integrity. Maybe treat him like any other colleague. Say good morning or whatever you would normally do. It's not for you go grappling after him. Quite frankly he is being spiteful and childish. While he's like that, let him be. Do you want this version of him back?

So sorry you are going through this. The good new is that we all get through it, often with a renewed appreciation of the things that really matter in life.  Slowly, slowly, you will start to see the wood from the trees. You will see your value and that you are worth so much more than to be treated like this. Says everything about him. Nothing about you.




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Thankyou both of you. Part of me wonders if all of this is truly midlife crisis or not but his behaviours at least seem to point that way and they are in the least very definitely avoidant.

It killed me the other day to drive past our old apartment and see her car in my space. The other oddity is him basically replicating where we used to go and what we used to do.

I don’t follow this ‘girl’ on social media but she has been doing some odd things and keeps flipping her profiles from private to public to show the dinner dates - all very childish (obviously) and weird.

So…..how do I respond to this from here? I’m no longer the emotional anxious mess I was, and as I say, whilst I don’t have to work with him directly we do pass each other. Do I mirror his ‘blanking’ of me or try and cordially exchange hellos and strike up some conversation somewhere?

Whilst I’m trying to move forward and do ‘me’ I really do want the guy I knew back and don’t know how best to proceed.
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Our Community / living is an opportunity
« Latest by UrsaMajor on Today at 02:21:34 AM »
Strangely it has been the start of this evening argument, because I have been accused to mischief making that made her loose her housing in Switzerland  :o :o :o

And you were able to influence her housing situation in Switzerland how?

Logic is a skill that MLC'ers seem to have a distinct lack of...
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Found out my replacement is someone 17 years younger than my ex (he’s 45, she’s 28). What the hell?! Please can I get peoples thoughts on this
My thoughts?


I’ve just found out he’s with someone 17 years younger than him (!) moved her into his apartment and apparently it’s all sunshine and rainbows for him. This girl has apparently told her friends she ‘wouldn’t date him as he was far too old but he’s rich and she likes being wined and dined by rich men. Shes apparently the town bicycle and as one person described her ‘a psycho bunny boiler’ and is apparently plastering photos of their dates to fancy restaurants all over social media - I obviously don’t follow her and haven’t seen these, nor do I want to.



Make yourself some popcorn, grab a cold beverage, sit back, and watch the


What he decides to do afterward is nothing you can control. You can only control your reaction to what he chooses to do....


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