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My Story a journey towards myself
OP: October 08, 2024, 05:12:16 AM
Here I go for a new thread. So I have to find a name for it. First thread was "surviving a MLC", it lasted 3 months. Second thread "living is an opportunity" lasted 13 months.

My first question is where I am ? When I look at the pseudo I chose when I created an account here, I defined myself as French Husband as a reference for the "French Lover". But now, does that make sense to keep the same pseudo as I will soon be divorced ? Should I change it for "FrenchSoonToBeDivorced" ? I don't think so. I am not defined by the next-to-come divorce. In hindsight I have been removed from the husband job around 2 years ago. I have been repudiated. But that does not make my past life before a lie. I have had a good marriage, W has been a good wife, a good mother, a good partner for 17 years. Together we have overcome trials and raised wonderful childen. It was not perfect but it was good. Now it is over, I have accepted it.

I am now in the road for divorce. This is not a roadI have chosen, not a road I expected, but I accept to follow it, what I can choose is to continue to protect myself, the children and the finances. That is for the exterior. For the inner side I choose to continue the journey towards myself as I recognize this journey has helped me to inforce my Faith, to improve my relationship with God and with the others.

A quick summary now of my LBS trip :
BD was January 2022, a few days after I discovered the OM. First months were the most horrible : I lost 10 kilos (LBS diet), I lost sleep, I didn't want to accept the marriage was over.
I discovered the MLC few months after, and the forum THS in May 2023 (from another French LBS). W stayed at home while she was secretly preparing an escape trip, and since May 2024 she is now living most of the time somewhere in Switzerland (I don't know where). I am in the house, the children are with me all the time and the divorce is ongoing (initiated by W).

Life is beautiful : the time has hugely slowed down at BD and what was a nightmare is now a blessing for me as i am enjoying my life as much as I can.
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#1: October 08, 2024, 06:57:21 AM
Sounds like made great progress.  The acceptance is the hardest part for me and you're right that time slows down.  I wish you luck on your continuing journey.  I hope to be where you are soon.  God Bless! 
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#2: October 10, 2024, 04:52:28 PM
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Love the title, I took feel that I am on a journey towards myself.
She's on her own journey of self discovery and I guess I got pulled into one as well. Enjoy the journey!
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#3: October 11, 2024, 12:57:40 AM
It is amazing how the LBS gets to go on their own unexpected journey. You just cannot go through this without finding yourself on a road you never intended. Then we have to pick a direction and find out where it all ends up.
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#4: October 11, 2024, 01:36:26 AM
It is amazing how the LBS gets to go on their own unexpected journey. You just cannot go through this without finding yourself on a road you never intended. Then we have to pick a direction and find out where it all ends up.

Someone's timeline a long time ago said it perfectly - "One doesn't make the trip to Hades and back without acquiring some transferable skills."
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#5: October 17, 2024, 01:07:50 PM
Thank you for your comments about my journey, yes it was an unexpected one, I feel like little hobbit Bilbo but I hope I won't find an evil ring.

Now it is time for journaling as there are new things that happened last week end

W wants to take the children
12 days ago W called at home. According to my new policy I gave the phone to S6, but at the end of the call he gave me back the device. And W actually wanted to speak with me : she said that she wanted to take S6 for the week-end in a monastery. I asked for details and W told me that D15 can not go and she did not want to tell me with whom they would go.
I then felt very uneasy with the request as this came a few days after the notification that the court hearing will be delayed due to the judge wanting to hear the children (my initiative). And I saw no reason for D15 to not participate to the monastery retreay.
I think W has understood that the daughters don't want to go with her in Switzerland. But I think she has not given up for S6 and she secretly expects to take "at least" him (her words one time that I won't forget).
So my mind imagined a child abduction. In Switzerland. Or worse, in Africa. Looks almost impossible, but not totally : maybe the risk is 5% or 1% ? I don't know, but the consequences would be terrible for me and the children, so I want to avoid this.

I sent a text to W saying that S6 has other activities scheduled this week-end that will not happen again soon, and that she can book the retreay another weekend also together with D15 and D17. I feel that D15 and D17 won't be easy to be travelled by force in a far country so I prefer in the future that W takes all the children together.
I got a monster in text back (expected) so I answered with "I am sorry you feel that way" and "you are always welcome to participate to activities with the children"

Then came the week-end. I had no information about W coming, so the children and I were surprised to see her arriving on Satturday morning. In the morning W came with us to the activity. S6 was always close to me, giving me his hand , chatting and joyous, and W silent 3-5 meters away from us. No comment  ::).
In the afternoon W took D15 and S6 for her usual activity with them : a trip to the shopping center.
In the evening W stayed at home so I went alone with S6.
 
And next morning while I was washing the dishes W came in the kitchen
First she said she wanted to dialogue with me, I answered that I need to be warned before a dialogue (boundary).
W then said she had things to say, so I answered that I could listen.
W said she wants to take the children for Christmas, either in Switzerland either in France. I asked for details and W told me that she is just informing me, she does not ask my permission. Then I told W that I feel concerned by the way she speaks about the children, as if they were pieces of furniture or animals, and I said they have their free will. I got then awakening Monster and I began to leave the room, that calmed immediately Monster so I came back and W continued to speak a little bit. When she finished I said I had listened to her and the Christmas holidays were not to be taken for granted.

In the next minutes I got a text from W telling that I ask for details and I don't give details about what I do with the children.
And some minutes after W climbed the steps to say "bye" to us three.

In the evening I answered to the text : I told W that I would gladly give her details requests or any demands, if only I received them : I am no seer I can not guess the unexpressed needs and wants. I added that I would gladly see her really involving in the children education, but at this time I see sadly that she can not keep her commitments, and not only to me. E.g. you are still not able to tell clearly when you come and go.
So I insist to ask for details : where, when, how, with who ?

Actually I am rather in favour of Christmas holidays with W for the children. It would be good for her, for the children. And I also need some real holidays without children. But not at any cost ! So I have to set up boundaries, again.

The phone calls from W to children are becoming chaotic : in the past it was regular, every other day then once in 3 days. But in the last weeks it has been every day during 5 days, then no call during 5 days, then again every day during 2 days, then nothing. I observe it as it looks a bit strange. But the good news is that the children are not impacted, neither myself. The children are now used to the chaos coming from W and I give to them enough stability.




A new LBS in the village

During same Satturday with outdoor activities, I met a LBS from same village. I knew from a discussion with a common friend one month ago that her husband is in crisis, and I had decided not to call her even if I knew she needed help (why ? You can guess in a few paragraphs), but when I met her at the first activity (W was 3 meters from me) and when she answered to my greetings with "are you aware ?..." I changed my mind, so I decided to give to this woman my ear during the evening, too bad for the night animals and the explanations of our guide.
 
Well I guess you can guess what I will write ? A 20 year marriage, 3 children D9, D8 and D5 (almost D6, schoolmate of S6). End of July the husband disappears, and 10 days after the now LBS learns that her H lives with anOtherWoman. Even worse, the adulterous couple has been seen snogging in the village several times  ::) ::)  ::) and they are usually behaving as teenagers in front of common friends. Well we can imagine how were the 2 last months for the LBS : sleepless nights, angry discussions, shock, sense of lostness, shame...
What is less common in a LBS situation is that the woman talks already about a "liberation". Actually, she realizes there have been a lot of abuses even before the crisis : verbal violence, depreciation of her as a person, jealousy. She talked about conjugal rape to. So I think there is likely MLC and there is more than MLC.

Now the woman tries to protect her children as she sees they are regressing really fast. She has been obliged by policemen to open to the failed husband so that he picks up his things (he stole the 2d car key at same time and other important papers that he gave back except the car key), and she has been obliged to "give" the children sometimes to the failed husband and the OW, even if the father is violent and careless. He and OW are showing her teenage snogging things before the children, they go in their bed during the afternoon in presence of the children. D9 is wetting her bed and D5 is talking like a 2-year baby and asking for attention everytime. The MLCH has already made vain the advice "protect the finances" because he has already stolen everything available 60k€ to his W and the children as he had access to all accounts.

D5 spent a lot of time stuck to me during the evening. Actually she was disturbing the event and I took her in my arms so that she would be calm. Her mother was surprised, she said : "usually she doesn't go with men". I understand she has been traumatized by her dad's violence. The last hour I finally said to D5 "you know, I don't really understand when you're talking like a baby, I would prefer you to speak like a little child". Then she talked like the little intelligent girl she is, and I confess I was proud of myself. She said to me just before the end of the event : "my dad has left our home, he lives with OW and sleeps in a bed with OW. Do you want to be my daddy ?"

I have mainly listened to her during the evening, and then by text when we went back home. I have proposed my help because I know life has tought me how to deal with this kind of situation : internally, with the lawyer, with the social worker, with the psychologist, etc... and I slept badly the next night, a sign that there is something wrong within me that I have to work on.

Next morning I knew what to do : I called a friend (mum of another S6 friend) who is already aware of the whole situation. She is currently studying psyschology and we are good friends so I asked for her advice. We discussed first about this woman and her children, then I said that she is a very nice woman, and I am a man who had no sexual relationship for 2 years. I am already helping a French LBS since 1 year, but he is a man living 1000 kilometers away so there is no ambiguity. Helping a female LBS in same village is new to me. She congratulated me to name what is happening with honesty, she said she felt it at the time that I raised the topic of this woman, and as I requested she gave to me useful advices, how to handle the situation (for the record this friend knows since 1 month the basics of my own situation : W and I are separated, W lives in Switzerland and I take care of the children). I need to keep the right distance. I will propose my help, not save.

Today there is no school (rain red alert). I am at home and D5 is currently with us as her mother told me she was looking for a solution for her 3 girls. I have not yet decided to tell to this woman my own story. Since 2 months I am informing friends and family about what is happening. I am glad I have done it following the advices here. It is now easier and easier to inform the friends, relatives and acquaintances. If people ask something related to W, I answer they should ask directly to W. And when I got questions about me, I answer honestly, sometimes with caution. I am glad I am now detached enough so that I am able to say nothing negative about W, and only positive or factual things with the children.
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#6: October 17, 2024, 11:59:42 PM
Well done FH on having the self-knowledge to avoid jumping in to help this other LBS and her kids, to ask for help from another woman. Bc everyone is vulnerable in these situations, aren’t they? So easy to mean well but to inadvertently add to the chaos or get pulled into something that affects your family in a way which isn’t helpful. And those poor little kids….heartbreaking.

Worth remembering too that this LBS is very early in, a bit like newbies who come here. As a vet, one knows that where you start is not always where you get to but that the skin is thin so you need to choose your words carefully. I presume this LBS does not have good enough English to come here? I wonder if there are any other French-speaking LBS here who might help, idk?

But you are right. It is not unkind to put boundaries in place. If only bc that poor little one is so desperate for a ‘daddy’ figure.

Sad that you have to consider the risk of your wife not returning the kids if you agreed but imho appropriate. At least until some of the legal custody things are resolved - have you checked with your own lawyer about this and if you can legally refuse to hand over passports or ID cards? Usually of course our worst fears do not come to pass…unless they do. And it’s not unreasonable to be cautious in the circumstances where your spouse has left the country.

A less self-centred (MLCish) parent would of course understand your concerns as reasonable in the situation and respond in ways to reassure you of her good intent….but it’s all Me Me, isn’t it? MLCers are notoriously noisy about their ‘rights’ but tend to ignore their obligations, of course. It seems very reasonable to me that, as a parent, particularly with your little boy, that you would want to know where she is taking him etc. Her response of course is just a false equivalence of apples and pears….someine who doesn’t even give you all basic info about her comings and goings or where she is living, who left, really is not entitled to step by step breakdowns of where you all are. Although you might want to game this out with your lawyer - I know other LBS parents here have used things like parenting software to ensure that it is obvious to any judge who is behaving above and beyond as a Co parent and who is not. Keeping some kind of documented trail can help, even if it seems ridiculous.

Having said that, legally, when the custody issues are agreed, there will be limits on what you can control, I imagine….you probably won’t be able to stop intros to OM or what she says to them about what’s going on. And that must be hard.

What’s the new timescale on the legal hearing?

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#7: October 20, 2024, 10:25:00 PM
Wow FH...... what a situation.

She's running "hot" at the moment eh? That's ok..... she can't maintain it, not forever. A mother's instincts vs searching for "the happy new life". We all know which one wins in the end, and it's not the instinct.

Love how you are controlling the flow. Excellent!!

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#8: October 28, 2024, 09:32:27 AM
Thanks Treasur for your nice comments. I am glad I have progressed since last year and I am now better knowing myself and my own vulnerabilities. I pretend jumping in the White Knight clothings is sometimes very close to abusing a vulnerable person. I write here for my personal situation, not all men in the world. And I believe it is the same for the three knights actually protecting Sansa Stark in the fiction books A Clash Of Kings and A Storm Of Swords : Sandor Clegane, Tyrion Lannister and (ser) Dontos Hollard. The 3 of them are actively protecting her, and the three of them could have raped her. For the record in the books Sansa is a 14 yo girl and the 3 men are around 30.

So I am proud of myself until now, yes. For the future I don't know exactly how I will act and try to help the LBS. At this time she does not know my current situation, she was for me an acquaintance until last month (mum of one of the many S6's schoolmates/friends). I gave to her a few hints that I have faced the same situation as her, but I am sure she does not know anything about my real situation. Ideally yes I would tell her to register here, but apart from this breach in my confidentiality, she has not the English skills to read and write here. And in French-speaking Internet I was not able to find a place like THS forum. Even between French LBS the skills and knowledge that we find here is not available.

You know, I have often considered opening a French forum or trying to convince people here that we should open a French-speaking section. That would be really useful for sure and that would help many people. But from your idea I have contacted the French LBS whom I talked about here. She gave me also good advices. Now after a few days and a bit of sharing I am more confident with myself that I can manage the situation as best as possible.

And please don't forget that, as there are already a lot of damages from the crisis and even before the crisis, my new friend is not standing at all. She is still deeply attached to her ex-companion and under shock.

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Sad that you have to consider the risk of your wife not returning the kids if you agreed but imho appropriate. At least until some of the legal custody things are resolved - have you checked with your own lawyer about this and if you can legally refuse to hand over passports or ID cards? Usually of course our worst fears do not come to pass…unless they do. And it’s not unreasonable to be cautious in the circumstances where your spouse has left the country.
Yes I have talked with my lawyer, and I will follow his advices regarding ID cards and Christmas holidays.

There is no rush : next hearing is scheduled December 5th and Christmas holidays are in 2 months. Now both girls are at home, I have discussed the topic with them : D15 said that W has talked with her and she said WE will have Christmas together. S6 said the same. So both of them believe that we 5 will be together. Even after I said I have not the same understanding. D15 and D17 said to me "you won't be alone for Christmas".

I understand now that W may want me to leave the house for Christmas. It would be the perfect option for W. Actually it would be good for me to have holidays without the children, but I am reluctant to leave the house in the current situation. So I won't be nice.

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MLCers are notoriously noisy about their ‘rights’ but tend to ignore their obligations, of course.
I really like this quote ! It is so right. So similar with teenagers within teenage crisis !
And I want to add that MLCers are denying their wrongs.

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I know other LBS parents here have used things like parenting software to ensure that it is obvious to any judge who is behaving above and beyond as a Co parent and who is not. Keeping some kind of documented trail can help, even if it seems ridiculous.
what do you mean with parenting software ? Currently I am doing more around 95% of the parenting. I plan to give a calendar from May to November pointing out my parental days (all) and W's (3-4/ month).

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Having said that, legally, when the custody issues are agreed, there will be limits on what you can control, I imagine….you probably won’t be able to stop intros to OM or what she says to them about what’s going on. And that must be hard.
Yes sure, in the future I won't have so much control on the time spent between W and the children. I want to ask the judge to forbid leaving national territory without my consent for the children. And I hope that, with time, W can accept the new situation, may the judge take the right decisions (in February normally)

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Wow FH...... what a situation.

She's running "hot" at the moment eh? That's ok..... she can't maintain it, not forever. A mother's instincts vs searching for "the happy new life". We all know which one wins in the end, and it's not the instinct.

Love how you are controlling the flow. Excellent!!

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Thanks -SS for your comment, actually I don't think I am trying to control anything, I just try to respond quietly to everything that life throws to me, the good and the bad. Are you sure mother's instinct is the loser ? I am not, so maybe it was a typing error ? Anyway I have no expectation of this whole mess finishing quicky, so I continue to journal here mainly for the benefit of other LBS

"she is doing miracles"
Last week I got my dad and his wife at home. For the record my mother died 19 years ago. F and MIL are not very close to me, and until now I did not inform them. But when I picked them at the bus station I said that W is not at home, and S6 explained she works in Switzerland.
The following day MIL told me that she wants to speak with W and she is doing miracles with other separated couples. I said nothing but internally I was "meh" (expressing lack of enthusiasm)

In the evening, W called me, I gave the cellphone to  S6 for their 2 minutes convo. Then S6 said "do you want to speak with grandma and he gave the mobile to W. And what happened ? MIL went in a room (actually the guest room where W sleeps usually) and she spoke to W.
I entered the kitchen, D15 saw that I was upset and she asked me what is wrong. I said "grandma is speaking to mum". And D15 said "bad idea".

Then after the 45 min-call I got 1 hour painful discussion with MIL (F was also present), MIL explaining all the things I should do. I did not want to give any details (and anyway MIL was not asking questions) but I talked a bit more that I wanted. The advices from MIL were mainly to do the useless things that I have tried in the first months, or phrases like "a woman wants to be retained when she leaves". MIL said that W is in pain, I said that I know she is in pain. Then MIL : "she needs your help". Me : "she does not want any help from me. Then a third person, said MIL. I asked "did she actually ask for your help ?". MIL said no. And I said : I too did not ask for your help, and without my consent you are intervening in a situation that you don't know. And that almost closed the discussion.
The only good news is that, according to MIL, W said that she has suffered a lot in her childhood. Few months before she was denegating this in front of the children. 

I cento passi (the hundred steps)
I would like to share a music I discovered recently and I am currently listening as it inspires me. The music is great, and greatest is the life of the man who inspired the movie "I cento passi " : Peppino Impastato, the Standing man against the mafia.
I believe that Italian are great for singing great songs whent they face an oppressing power.

enjoy the music from I cento passi !
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#9: October 28, 2024, 11:29:43 AM
Thank you for the music! I was dancing around here while I cleared up in the kitchen….although the cat walked in, looked at me like I was a crazy woman and walked out ha ha.

Re the parenting software….to clarify, I have seen other LBS here refer to apps, I think one is called something like Family Wizard? It allows you to share and document info related to kids without having to have direct contact, I think. But I don’t know what the French equivalent is.
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#10: October 28, 2024, 02:10:09 PM
Can we please just agree to STOP USING THE WORD RAPE in posts?
I am over it. Enough. Please.
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#11: November 03, 2024, 10:49:10 AM
FH-

So sorry that you are dealing with this but you seem to have a good handle on things. I’m sure you never thought you would have to worry about your W taking your kids to another country but here you are. MLC is a cruel beast
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#12: November 26, 2024, 06:29:09 AM
Thanks B1, T and AL for your comments.

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Can we please just agree to STOP USING THE WORD RAPE in posts?
I am over it. Enough. Please.
OK understood. In the future when I will need to speak with offending words on my thread, I will write in white so that it is invisible for those who don't want to read it. lease forgive me : as a foreigner and not a native, I am not aware of what is offending and what is'nt.


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Thank you for the music! I was dancing around here while I cleared up in the kitchen….although the cat walked in, looked at me like I was a crazy woman and walked out ha ha.

You know what ? same time you were writing these words I was dancing in the kitchen with S6 & the music. Instead of a cat D15 was looking at us like we were crazy people ha ha .

After I told D17 about that music I discovered that, she had studied this movie last year during her Italian course. She knows Peppino Impastato.

A bit of journaling
last weeks have been fine. No change for W who continues to come and go few days in the month (around 3-4 days / month is the new standard). I am still very happy in my life with the children and going ahead.
For Christmas it is now settled that we will go to my brother and SIL. I am wanting it. The children are wanting it. Guess who is not wanting it, who is unhappy ?  ;). When W complains I tell her that she has not sent any clear plans for Christmas. The children have understood that they may go in Switzerland for a few days after Christmas. I told W that she is welcome at my brother's home and that their house is not so far from Switzerland. It's up to her to make her plans.


I continue to help the LBS mum (will call her LBSM from here) the best as I can, and I often take care of the 3 daughters when she needs to . After giving to her some hints, I have finally confided to her a part of my story so that I can now share the advices from the forum to her. She is working on herself and she is fighting for her children.
As I expected (and feared) this to happen, the sharing of my story has added a lot of emotions to the relationship btwn LBSM and I. LBSM is now even closer to me and together with her I have tried to set up boundaries of "friendly relationship".

Last week LBSM was very shocked, because, after the school, her ex had kidnapped her D6. In the evening she called me and said she needed a hug, so I came to her house. I had told D15 that I was walking outside : it was true but not totally true.

Warning : the next paragraphs in white contain sexual content and offending words.
I walked 20 minutes and prayed in the same time to keep the boundaries, because I knew LBSM was not able to keep the boundaries. LBSM did not want her children to see me at her house so she brought me in her car and I listened to her during many hours and hugged her. At the end of the night she sat on me and said that she wanted to rape me. It was hard for me to keep my boundary but I said no. My body was screaming YES, my heart and my brain were saying NO.  She kept me under her during maybe 1 hour, saying I was in jail (oh what a delightful jail when she opened her bra and lifted her shirt up) but I still kept my boundary. And actually, after 5 hours of standing with pride, my reptilian brain was not valiant enough to stand anymore. So if I had said yes, the experience for us would have been one of the worse quality.
At 4:30 am I left the car (yes we have spent the whole night in a car with engine off in November, that's southern France climate)


I plan to continue in the future to help LBSM as much as I can and I plan to keep my boundaries. It looks to me I am playing the sorcerer's apprentice and it looks to me it is the right thing to do right now. For the record the ex brought back the girl at school 2 days after. D6 was not present for an important medical appointment as her dad didn't appear.

the future days
Next days are really important for the family : on Thursday morning I will go with D15 to the judge so that she can tell what she wants. On Thursday afternoon I will go to the school for a meeting with the teacher, the director and a psy. The main topic will be whether S6 will jump directly to 2d year of primary school after 3 months of 1st year. He is already in a mixed class (1st/2d) so it will be smooth. W will participate by phoe to the meeting. I am proud that, even with the difficult situation with their mom, the kids are still doing very well at school.

I got two written testimonies from other parents who testity that I am taking care of the three kids very well, that I am doing the household chores and am always present with the children in the public parks and for friends birthdays. One mother is writing that I am alone to take care of the children since several months and have done everything so that nothing is changed for the children since their mother left. This testimony is actually my only proof before the Court that W has left our home. It is crucial for my case. December 5th I will have the hearing then after 2 months I expect the court decision. 
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#13: November 26, 2024, 07:46:04 AM
Well done on making your Christmas plans for you and the kids! As you say, your wife seems to still have the expectation that everyone should wait on her wishes, as if you all get put in a cupboard when she leaves and then get pulled out when she turns up to ‘play’. Pretty common mindset with MLC folks of course, but still weird….so congratulations on not getting sucked into that.

Re LBSM….a couple of gentle cautions from me fwiw. I read your white text (not quite sure why you’ve chosen that option here to talk about these kind of things though)
You are a grown man and entirely free to make your own choices.
However, if one finds oneself lying or keeping something in the dark, it’s a pretty solid red flag that one might not be choosing wisely or healthily. If there was nothing to hide, why would you choose to hide it even as an act of omission. I think we LBS tend to learn that lies are like dripping acid in life, even small ones. Worth thinking about perhaps?

And if her h is capable of kidnapping his own child, he may not be the healthiest person to be even on the edge of your life or your family’s life. One never wants to think that people can do some of the crazy things that people can do when emotions are running high. But sometimes they DO do those things, and I can’t see how exposing you or your kids to even the slightest risk of being affected by someone else’s current marital crisis is worth taking lightly. And she is still someone else’s wife, I think, and her h may not much like the idea of her rolling around with someone else even if he no longer wants his marriage or does not deserve it. What do you think?
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#14: December 03, 2024, 06:48:42 AM
Hi Treasur,

thanks for your answer and your wise advices. I wrote in white just because I don't want to force anyone to read a sexual content, and because I used the R word. I have nothing to hide in my life, especially here is a very safe place for me : I try to be as honest in this forum as I am with myself. I saw my spiritual counsellor last week and I told him the same thing that I wrote here regarding LBSM.
Actually she was never married to her ex, so he was never her H. Nevertheless from what I know he is a man who thinks he has "ownership" on other people. Anyway, out of consideration for his mannish reactions, I still plan to keep my boundary and not have any sexual relationship with LBM (I remove the S).

Christmas changes
W was not happy with the Christmas plans. Instead of blaming me, she chose D15 as a mediator and we had a discussion all three together before W left. So, I have accepted the proposal from D15 and I am agree with the changes : the children will go during 4 days in Switzerland around Christmas with their mom, and they will spend 12 days with me. Finally I will have a few days without the children.

school appointment for S6
I went at the appointment with the teacher, the school director, the psy and a specialized teacher. All these people are taking care of S6 ! I sent a text to W so that she could join the meeting by phone as it was settled. Then when the meeting began I called her... nobody answered. Same when I tried again 15 minutes after. I remember the very sententious texts that I got from W when I proposed to her to participate by phone to this meeting : "she did'nt need my proposal to participate, it is her son". Well it she took 50 minutes to call back. On a positive note she "participated" during 11 last minutes.
So, to summarize, S6, according to his teacher is very smart, a good boy in the classroom, a nice schoolmate who listens to the teacher, he nevers puts himself in the limelight. She said he is the perfect schoolboy. He is doing the 1st year activities and some of the 2d year activities. According to his teacher, he has understood that he makes more mistakes when he does the 2d year activities. So for the moment he will stay in between 1st year and 2d year. There are 2 girls and maybe a boy in the same position : the teacher call them "the Never" as they never need help from the teacher. I am glad with the decision. In 4 monhs we will have another meeting.

D15 hearing
I brought D15 at the Court. I was good for me to see the tribunal building. I'll be ready for the next hearings. My daughter saw the judge in her office alone, in total less than 5 minutes. I was not here (obviously). D15 told me that the judge asked only one question (her name). Then D15 talked. She must have prepared what to say because she said it all. Then I brought back D15 to her high school. She was not happy because she was missing 2 hours at school. D15 said nothing to me so I did'nt know what she said. The first point was about her wishes, I was hoping she wanted to stay with me. And as a cherry on the cake I was hoping she would tell the judge that her mom is in Switzerland. Before the judge W is still claiming that she lives at our home and I have no real proof that it is not the case.
So, what did D15 say ? My lawyer told me her words
Quote from: D15 said
My mother is living in Switzerland since several months. I respect her decision. I want to continue to live in [villagename]. I want to live in the same place as my little brother. My sister is living in another town and she shares the same position : she wants us to live together in [villagename]
Well, what could I add ? D15 is not talking about me. No word for dad. And every word for me is golden. I was really relieved when I heard what she said.

News of the divorce

As expected, W's lawyer has delayed the hearing that was scheduled December 5th. It will happen in 2 months now. According to her, W has sent "a lot of documents". I think that W's lawyer has understood that her strategy is not right. I think that W is unhappy with the situation because she wanted to rush her flight. But that's not my business. Mine is currently to focus on myself and take care of the kids.
Until this hearing I will write W, then I will switch to STBXW.
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#15: January 08, 2025, 06:49:26 AM
Hello all,

long time no see ! Two years since BD, but I don't feel the need to celebrate my BD birthday. Only it is January and I feel it is time to have a look back and forth from the New Year. Happy New Year to everybody !

Christmas holidays
It has been very good. For the first time the children went in Switzerland to see their mother. In total they spent during the holidays 4 days with mom and 12 days with me. I chose to spend the 4 days without the children at my brother's home and it has been very fine : they have 6 children. After the days in Switzerland, the children were very happy to spend a few days with their cousins : we have played together, cooked together, and we skied together too. Then, back at home, D17 has been again very active in the house and also working really hard for her University exams.
I found for her a new appartment, next to the University, next to the university library, next to the Church : three places where she spends a lot of time.

2024
In regards to what I could fear in the past, 2024 was full of awful news : W launched the divorce proceedings, first in amicable way, then to the court. W left our house : at first she said it was half time, very quickly it became 10%. Thanks to this forum I was ready for it happening and I did not react. I have been able to focus and me and take care of the children.
We have spent very good moments together : the sacrament of confirmation for D15, nice holidays with the children in April, June, July, August, October and Christmas.
I was with my children during the whole year but for 4 days...
The children are very successful at school. I am glad that I am well enough so that I can be a "good-enough parent".

Divorce news
the next audience will March the 6th. Firstly when I had the information I was not happy because 3 additional delay is not fine. I have been a bit depressed in December. Now I feel better.
2 days ago W sent me a text with proposals for the holidays : there are 2 weeks school holidays in February, 2 weeks in April, 8 weeks in July-August. W asks me to choose between 1st week and 2d one in F and A. For the summer, W asks me to choose for her becoming the children in August, either the 2 first weeks, either the 2 last ones.
I see this text as a progress on different plans. First, W is accepting the new situation and the consequence of her actions. Split holidays is exactly my position for the future. Then she gives me visibility for the next holidays. And she asks me to choose btwn 2 options. Not so bad.

On the other hand, summer holidays are 8 weeks, so 2-6 weeks what I would call dividing in two.
And W still does not send me the hours when she comes and goes, only the day.

The 1 M$ question : How can it be that W is accepting things by text and in the same time fighting in against the Court ?
At this time I feel I am in a good position to get what I want from the divorce and I don't want to lower my guard

Standing
As I see 2025 today, it may mean the end of my standing. For me the divorce is something definitive, and I see no come back from that destruction. W is still not showing any sign of reconnection towards me. I am still open to a possible reconnection but I see the door is gradually closing from my side.

2025
I see 2025 as a wonderful year. Very nice moments to come with the children and friends. My 2 brothers will celebrate their jubilee (25 years wedding) this summer. For the Catholic Church, 2025 will be also a jubilee year, in reference to what is written in the book of Leveticius
his fiftieth year you shall make sacred by proclaiming liberty in the land for all its inhabitants. It shall be a jubilee for you, when every one of you shall return to his own property, every one to his own family estate. (Lev. 25:10)


Happy New Year to everybody ! I wish you peace, joy, and love !
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#16: January 08, 2025, 02:56:41 PM
Happy new year, FH. Sounds like with all considered you are in a pretty good place. Moving forward with no expectations and living in reality. That’s a great place to be in this situation.
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#17: January 20, 2025, 10:17:07 PM
Happy New Year to you!
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#18: February 07, 2025, 01:58:37 PM
Thank you ML and B1, Happy New Year to both of you ! Let's go back to journaling.

S6
S6 will turn S7 in a few days. He is a very good boy and brings joy around him. At school he continues to steadily his grade-skipping : he spends half-time in a new class (Y2) and half-time in Y1 classroom with his fellow friends from kindergarten. He feels very comfortable in this situation but the Y2 teacher (also school director) tells me he will have to choose. He has the competencies, no question and he is already skilled for Y2.
He has seen twice the school psy, and he told to her he wants to work for the NASA. I was a bit surprised by this job choice, I thought first it comes from the many space books he is reading. Actually it is D15 who gave to him the idea.
I am thinking about getting him to see a psy so that he can talk freely about what happened in last 2 years

D17
she will turn D18 in a few weeks, and she decided to go for the weekend at our home, for S6 birthday. That will be a very nice weekend ! She is very mature and she grows fine.
D17 wants to participate to the W championship in her sport this year. I am not sure it will be possible because we will need the agreement from her mother birthcountry federation. I will do my best and try to collaborate with W in order to get the agreement.

D15
she will turn 16 in one month. I have realised that I have neglected her the last months in comparison with the time I have spent for D17 (new University life, a lot of support needed) and S6 (well, he is 6 yo :)). So I have decided to spend more time with her and I now usually come back in the living room after the usual bedtime (around 1/2 h) with S6 almost every evening. The living room is her usual room in the evening where D15 does her homework and gymnastic exercices. So we have more time to chat, it is nice for me and her. She asks me support for her homework even if she does not really need it. What she really needs IMO is to have a decent parent available for her. 

FH
I am well, a bit tired to take care of everything, but all in all my life is great.
The 3 children are very close to me, I am glad to see them very often, to share good and bad moments with them, to trust them and be trusted. We express our needs and wants in an healthy way.
I will be in holidays next week and with D15 and S7 we will spend one week in the Alps at my dad's home. Very nice moments are expected !
I love my life.

W (for the record)
she is still deep in MLC. In January she has spent 3 days with us at our home, the amount is slowly decreasing. After the court decision (May ?) the amount of days at our home should become zero.
In February D15 and S7 will go 3,5 days in Switzerland. D17 has not seen her mom since Christmas and does not plan any holiday with her mother in February or April.
Only slight change for W : she calls now regularly every day my phone around 8pm (previously it was really irregular), I give the phone to the children. And at the end of the call, she says to S6 : thank dad for the phone.
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#19: February 28, 2025, 06:00:55 AM
Hi all,

just a short update today.

Holidays
holidays have been very fine for me and the children. D15 and S7 have spent 4 days with their mom (nothing special) and 12 days with me. D17 is now D18, she is free to go wherever she wants and... she spent her 10 days school holidays with her siblings and me at our home (no surprise)

Divorce news
I got yesterdy updated submissions (we call this "conclusions" in French legal system), it is last minutes submission so if we want to answer by written submission, there will be again a postponement of the hearing. My lawyer set up quickly a meeting with me, and we decided together to go on and keep the hearing as it is (next week March 6th)
What is new ? W has hired a new lawyer. That is really unusual at this stage, says my lawyer. I don't know the reason why W changes her lawyer but I guess it is no good news for her.
The new lawyer has made mainly a copy paste of the previous submission, the main point being that he finally admits that W is living in Switzerland and he provides a lease contract and 3 salary slips.

In the submission, the lawyer writes that contrary to what we write, W wins monthly 4900 €. Well, salary slips are consistently showing a salary income of 6800 CHF, that is around 7200 €, not so far from our figures of 8k€. 
There are other financial mistakes in the figures provided in the submission, mixing recipes and incomes.

Anyway the best strategy according to my lawyer is to go at the hearing and plead.

I don't understand what W is seeking when she pushes the divorce : her chances of winning full custody are almost 0 (according to my lawyer).

W's comes and goes
still decreasing : since 1 month I have not seen W (and all the better). She wrote to me 2 days ago that she will arrive Friday evening and leave Monday morning. I answered : "will you surprise me and provide to me this time the expected timetables and anticipated schedule "?
Spoilers : I got no surprise  ;D
What is a bit strange from my POV is that W plans to leave on Monday next week and the hearing will be Thursday. That makes few sense. And she knows that D18 will leave home today, so before W arrives. Anyway I will do my usual things with the children this weekend. The "comes and goes" will normally end soon after the Court decision.
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#20: February 28, 2025, 11:28:20 AM
Are you asking that the home is solely yours? It must be hard to have her coming like a visitor but acting like a resident.
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#21: March 01, 2025, 02:17:41 AM
I hope everything goes in your favor. I am just wondering, could you get full custody of the kids? I mean, stable home and all, so I was wondering if that was even possible.
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#22: March 03, 2025, 01:38:16 AM
Hi FTT and OR !

Are you asking that the home is solely yours? It must be hard to have her coming like a visitor but acting like a resident.

Yes I am asking. And there is no doubt that I will get the home  : the usus and the fructus, not the abusus (I could not sell the home without W consenting). Against the court W is agree to let me in the house (and, as she has chosen to live in a different country, it would be difficult to say
 
It is no so hard for me to see her behaviour since I have no more expectation. And at least the children see her mother at their home.

I hope everything goes in your favor. I am just wondering, could you get full custody of the kids? I mean, stable home and all, so I was wondering if that was even possible.


Yes there is only the option of full custody for the court. Shared custody is now encouraged but in our case it is impossible : W lives in deep Switzerland, I am in Southern France. 700 km. 7 hours driving.
Full custody in France is usually given to the mother (71%) and in few cases to the father (12%). T who the judges will give the full custody in our case ?
A normal father who lives alone with the children since 10 months and with whom the children are blossoming ? OR
A mother who left the house, the marriage, the children, her job, all her responsiblities ?  A mother who has lied to the court when she pretended to live at our home and that the children don't want to be heard by the judge ? (now the truth is established IMO)

Will my children continue to live in the place where they want to live, with their friends, their school, their activities ? Or will they move in a different country where they have no friend, they can not continue their activities, they don't even know where the school is ?

I will know the answer in 2 months. Until this time the children continue to live a normal life with me.
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#23: March 05, 2025, 09:25:59 AM
Yes, thoughts and prayers your way that it goes or your favor.
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#24: April 24, 2025, 11:17:59 PM
Thanks B1 for your thoughts and prayers, actually I needed them but not for the hearing.

Hearing postponed and consequences

The hearing is delayed to June the 5th. The reason is the judge was not available (sickness). At least I was informed 2 days ago, I heard that some people went on the Court and were informed here. This decision was no good news for me and I have been depressed then during weeks. The decision means for me living 3 more months in the current situation : no clarification of the child custody and the alimony, W can come and go at will.

S7 birthday

S8 had a very nice birthday with many of his friends. Like last year I organized the birthday together with one of S8's friend's parents. I knew since September that they are separated but they are in very good terms. In the last months I was closer to the mother, so I had mainly her point of view about the separation. I was a bit surprised that she jumped directly to a new Relationship and discussed about it in front of the children (7 and 3). Then for the birthday she did nothing and left all the responsibility to the dad's shoulders. She said she had something else to do… Now I am pretty sure that she is actually in mild MLC.
S7 is definitely in year 2 at school now. He is enjoying life fully and bringing joy around him. Now he wants to become astronaut and is passionated by everything related to space.

D16
D15 has turned 16. I made for her a sugarless cake that was a failure, then she made herself a very good cake. She is cooking more and more at home and that is very nice. She is still successfull at high school and she is learning to drive. She is growing very well, we are fine together. She is cooking more and more at home and in healthy way.

D18
she is very happy in her student life, she has very good marks at school, in the top 3 of the university. Currently she is with us for one week and all her plans for this summer are related to "us", meaning her siblings and her dad.

holidays.
After a lot of discussions and changes, W finally went a few days with S7 in holidays to see her brother in another town in France. I am glad they are reconcilied now, because they were angry between themselves some years ago. She spent also 1 day in Lourdes (place of pilgrimage) and 1 day with D18 in her student town.
Then I took some holidays with the children : we spent 2 days in the Futuroscope (great theme park), then 3 days in the student town with D18. It was a really nice time together. D18 shared with us a lot of her student life, she has made great friends and she wanted us to meet them. One is from Brasil and will come at our home in June (news for me  :D) and one wants to participate to our trek in June.
Then we went all at home and D18 stays with us a full week at home during which D16 and S7 are at school. This is great to be all together, every day is a nice day.

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when I suscribed here on this forum almost 2 years ago, I felt I was an husband, but I was wrong. I had been already reputiated, fired from this job. Now I don't feel anymore I am married. So I want to change my profile's name with a login that fits more who I am. And I want you, my friends to keep the memories we shared here, so I want to keep an "H" as a second initial of a meaningful word in English. From today my new username will be FrenchHuman.

Familial allowance

I got a call few weeks ago from the "caisse d'allocations familiales" (family allowance fund) as I have notified the separation to the CAF. First good news is that the allowance payment is raised now, and the person on the phone asked me many questions about what is happening. She asked me whether W is giving an alimony, I said yes (it is lower than what she should give, but at least it is better than Nothing). Then she said that the CAF can take actions if W stops to give the money.
And just a few days after this call, W stopped to pay the amount ! First I sent a simple text, then after a few days I submitted a request to the CAF… From my POV it is a really nice solution for left behind parents, the CAF can give the money instead of the fleeing parent and in that case can do the legal proceedings.
After some weeks W sent finally the money to our account  ;D
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OM discovered Dec 22, BD Jan 23 (few days after)
W living at home 16 mths post BD, then moving in & out "for work" in foreign country. Divorce ongoing first in amicable way then before the Court.
Aimer, c'est donner sans attendre de retour et tout acte est prière, s'il est don de soi (Antoine de Saint Exupéry)
Love means to give without expecting return, and every act is a prayer if it is a self-gift. (thanks OffRoad !)

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#25: April 25, 2025, 10:51:44 AM
Fellow Human,
You sound quite good considering the unwanted court delay. Whereas before you may have not contacted the CAF, you now have as it is your right to do so. The natural consequences of your wife´s actions are starting to occur-; not your circus, not your monkeys.

Have fun with having D18 home for the summer! You all have proven that you ARE a family unit of 4.

Take care,
FTT
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#26: June 03, 2025, 05:42:31 AM
Thank you FTT for your comment, yes the situation with the CAF is exactly how you describe it.
Now is time for me to give some news

Children
they are very fine. School year is finishing and it is a success. My children are growing really well, they are close to me and there is a lot of lot between them. What could I expect more ?

Family gathering
My oldest brother was ordoned a deacon last week and it was a big opportunity for the family to gather. My children were with me, as all the children of the brothers (a big challenge because some of them live in the whole France, one was in Germany and one in the Isle of Man. The mass was great : 2h30 seemed very short. And we had a very nice dinner together the day before. I spoke with the young sister of my mother, she told me about some old stories of my mother and her parents, I was happy to hear these stories.

Divorce news and end of W's comes and goes
The hearing is set up for this Thursday June 5th. I have the intuition it will happen (this time after 3 postponements). My lawyer is really confident and we are prepared. I have asked my lawyer how to put an end to W's comes and goes, and he has provided one way to me. Just after the hearing, I will give (or send) a letter to XW telling that I have changed the locks of the house and I invite her to get all her personal stuff from the house within 2 months.

New relationship in my life
I have met a month ago a wonderful woman and I want to go ahead with her. She is 49 yo, 3 children D26 S18 and D16. She has been a LBS (without knowing it) and had BD in 2019, final divorce in 2024. Her XH was clearly in MLC with many symptoms. It is really early for us and it is great to meet someone with a similar mindset and similar will to build together. We are agree to take the necessary time. What is challenging for me is to find time and space in my life for this new relationship as I have the children with me almost all the time. We have done things together : dancing together, restaurant, 1 day trekking, and the feeling is optimum between us.
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M 45, W44. Married 17 years, together 20
3 children D18, D16, S7
OM discovered Dec 22, BD Jan 23 (few days after)
W living at home 16 mths post BD, then moving in & out "for work" in foreign country. Divorce ongoing first in amicable way then before the Court.
Aimer, c'est donner sans attendre de retour et tout acte est prière, s'il est don de soi (Antoine de Saint Exupéry)
Love means to give without expecting return, and every act is a prayer if it is a self-gift. (thanks OffRoad !)

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#27: June 03, 2025, 06:42:17 AM
FrenchHuman- great choice on the name change. I also changed mine a couple years in as well. I just want to applaud you on being a dedicated father and  your moving forward with such strength. Congratulations on meeting someone you enjoy time with. I aee a very positive future for you and your family.
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Married July 1991
Jan 2018 BD1 moved out I filed for Div/ H stopped it
Oct 2018 moved back
Oct 2020 BD2
Feb 2021 Div-29 1/2 years
July 2021 Married OW
Feb 2022  XH fired
June 2022 XH bring OW to meet family due to xMIL illness
May 2023 went NC after telling XH we could not be friends
Aug 2023 XH moves w/o OWife
May 2024 xMIL visits XH/OW in their new home
Aug 2024 cut relations w/XH fam.
Dec 2024 D33 expecting baby ( XH not told)

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#28: June 05, 2025, 07:40:36 AM
Thanks MadLuv for your kind encouragement and your wishes !

Today I had the hearin (finally) and it went well. xW was not here and I was not really surprised. I feared that xW's lawyer would be not here, and a new postpone, but fortunately it did'nt happen ! So our case has been heard today, the first in the morning.

The new lawyer is an African one (like xW). My lawyer told me he sees more than often this kind of "communautarian temptation" and it is a bad signal towards the judge. I think (my lawyer too) that the previous lawyer would have done better, because the new one was really confused, confusing and very long, the judge seemed not pleased at all. From the beginning of the divorce xW has been really bad advised. Well as I have been fired from my position of advisor, I find it a bit sad.

At the end of the hearing it seems really really unlikely that I loose the full custody of the children.
The judge told us that she will give her decision June 30th (an unexpected good news). Then I sent to xW the letter to ask her to pick up her possessions at our home within 2 months.

Now I feel really relieved that it is done. I feel supported by a few friends who pray for me, I got a nice call from my new friend.

PS : D16 has done successfully the driving theoritical test, she will soon be able to drive with me the car.
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M 45, W44. Married 17 years, together 20
3 children D18, D16, S7
OM discovered Dec 22, BD Jan 23 (few days after)
W living at home 16 mths post BD, then moving in & out "for work" in foreign country. Divorce ongoing first in amicable way then before the Court.
Aimer, c'est donner sans attendre de retour et tout acte est prière, s'il est don de soi (Antoine de Saint Exupéry)
Love means to give without expecting return, and every act is a prayer if it is a self-gift. (thanks OffRoad !)

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#29: June 05, 2025, 10:13:53 AM
That´s a load off your mind! I´m sorry that it came to this and took such a toll in time, energy, emotion and money. At least we are living in an age when judges can see that the assumption of maternal custody is not necessarily the appropriate outcome. May the bruises to your self-esteem fade and may joy be a constant in your life.
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#30: June 06, 2025, 12:12:34 PM
Hello,

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xW was not here and I was not really surprised. I feared that xW's lawyer would be not here, and a new postpone, but fortunately it did'nt happen ! So our case has been heard today, the first in the morning.

It never bodes well if one of the spouses does not attend and only has their attorney as it really shows a lack of care for the court and the proceedings. The fact that the attorney was not prepared didn't help at all either.

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The judge told us that she will give her decision June 30th (an unexpected good news).

I will be in your corner rooting for you. This is the tough part as you never know how the judge will rule. However, it seems your case is solid and you have persevered through such a tough time.

Keep you eye on the kids and have a great weekend,


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#31: June 13, 2025, 05:02:35 PM
Sounds like the hearing went well. I hope you get the results you want on the 30th. You sound like you are doing quite well and I am happy for you.
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