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Our Community / It's A Wonderful Life
« Latest by Happylight on Today at 01:20:50 PM »
Thank you for sharing the positive update.  It is so hard because many of us do struggle at work post bomb drop.  It feels like your entire life is being destroyed and not just your marriage.  It is good to hear about the rebirth and success going forward.
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Our Community / Life after reconciliation
« Latest by Acorn on Today at 01:11:39 PM »
Thank you, Nas.  It is good to know that someone else appreciates the quote.

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My update of sorts before the population in our home increases dramatically for the holiday season and life becomes busier than usual.

Our children will be coming home for a while.  Funny how they still say they are coming ‘home’ after all these years of independent living.  I suspect  home cooking is one of the reasons for it  — they have strongly hinted at what specific home-cooked yummies they would  like to eat.  Disclaimer: H and I a very average cooks. 

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H and I are living a peaceful and joyful life. 

It is intentional but un-choreographed.  I would say it is really about our attitude, rather than an endeavour to live in a specific way.  We finally seem to grasp what ‘Just Live’ is really about.  The days of over-analyzing, obsessing and ruminating over the events of the past, and sweating over the small stuff seem to be far behind us. (I hope so.) Perhaps the U-curve of happiness is playing out in real life. 

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While chatting with H about the incredible rise of AI use and the pros and cons of it, the topic of ‘information’ came up. After all, the whole world is awash with information.  It caters to every ‘I-need-an-answer.’  You eventually collect a big sackful of information you like or agree with, and not always because they are proven to be true beyond doubt.  Cognitive biases can often rule the day. 

H and I agreed wholeheartedly that to have cognitive biases is to be human but recognizing that human trait  could bring more rational and balanced approach to how you see and assess many happenings in our personal lives, ideas, theories, opinions, etc. 

As an aside but related to the ‘information’ topic, it is my observation that some of the information a person collects during his/her tough situations, such as relationship upheavals, may be very useful as ‘copium’ (rationalization of one’s current situation) but it can turn into ‘hopium’ (irrational optimism or false hope) if one lets ‘copium’ run wild.

I did cross into the realm of ‘hopium’ for a period of time after BD.  I perhaps lingered in that phase a tad too long.  However, I do not beat myself up about that because I learned the hard lesson of what damages ‘hopium’ can do to my ability to see reality and to my emotional health.

For me personally, practicing detachment, while keeping in my heart my undiminished love for H, was a necessary and effective treatment for my ‘hopium addiction.’  Also, detachment was an act of love and self care toward myself.

OK, the end of philosophizing. 

It is a sample of one.  That’s a piece of information I see as important. 

Here is my sincere Christmas wish to you — May peace rule your hearts.

(((((HUGS)))))
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Our Community / Whiplash from clinging boomerang
« Latest by Happylight on Today at 11:15:13 AM »
So an just an update.  I continue to struggle with frustration at the slow progress and trying to figure out what the heck is going on.
 Thanksgiving came and went smoothly. He stayed for several days in a row. 

He stays, he seems content, we don't fight, he talks about things like replacing the fence at the house and other projects that have to be done.  We watch TV shows together.    If you walked through our house, you would never know that he has "moved out."  He leaves clothes on his side of the bed.  His closet is full.  His dresser has stuff on it.  His office has all his stuff, his bike is in the garage.  He actually doesn't use another address.  So basically, he has the RV that he goes and stays at a few nights a week.  Insurance enrollment just happened and he asked me for input on any changes and didn't make any moves to separate me. 

He had my daughter wrap gifts, and she said Mom--all the gifts are for you.  He brought me some supplements to help with shoulder pain.  When I'm not home, he asks where I am.  However, he doesn't like to tell me anything that is going on with him.  Often, I think its just because he wants to be in control and not because it is something that is nefarious.    Usually when he away, he still stays in contact--sends me texts and responds to things that I send or ask. Many times I have decided I won't reach out to him first (trying to go a little dim) and he always will bridge the gap.

Changes that occur to women in their late 40's have been hitting me hard this last six months.  I struggle with not sleeping well, and therefore fatigue.  I am having trouble with working out because of injuries--this is after doing fairly similar workouts for the entire year previous to that without any issues other than normal soreness.  It's hard to be in this situation when I want to feel and look my best and I'm struggling to workout and feel like my body is falling apart.  I am taking many different vitamins and supplements, try to eat good whole food, drink water, limit alcohol, exercise, and get sleep...so I feel like I am doing my part. 

While I am intent on my stand, I do still struggle with making decisions based on what I think he is going to do or say.  For example, I was asked to attend a conference for work in April.  This whole thing blew up when I came back from a work conference two years ago, so I think I have some association between the two.  I am trying to move past that, but I haven't yet told him of my plans to attend.  It has always been the case that he could leave without worrying about anything, but I have to make sure that everything is taken care of if I have to go somewhere.  Part of me wonders if he will also associate the trip with what happened before--I suspect that when I was gone before was when he crossed the line with OW.

From all my reading and processing, I know that while I may have been able to make different choices in the past, I also know that his choices were his alone.  They were choices--although he has tried to blame them on me.  However, I still feel somewhat stuck in limbo.  I wonder if he does feel like I am an obligation, but nothing more. 

I do believe see evidence of stages--his behavior has changed through this.  I've read that he will come through this or he won't.  I've been in the dark for almost this entire thing (although I am extremely observant of behavior and habits).  DOES WHAT I DO MATTER? 
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Our Community / Radical Acceptance is the New Black
« Latest by xyzcf on Today at 05:22:42 AM »
Reinventing and all you lovely people:

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Xyzcf, just want to say that hearing this at a therapy session close to BD would have been like someone sitting and peeling off my skin. No matter what the therapist was seeing, saying that in front of you caused huge suffering for you. And what person on this earth wouldn't be able to grasp that, especially with your long marriage, kids, etc?

Thank you.  As you know, those words can never be erased from my memory. This "therapy" session occured perhaps 3 to 4 weeks after BD.

We are here for one another, and the kindness shown by others really impacts us...even many years later.
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Our Community / Onward and Upward is better than Rinse and Repeat!
« Latest by UrsaMajor on Today at 05:19:25 AM »
No words required....



At least S seems to be coming around in a way. I am about 14 hours by plane from my mom so I can understand the distance thing, (not to mention her infatuation with QAnon Conspiracy Theories ::)  ) so I can sympathize...
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Our Community / Radical Acceptance is the New Black
« Latest by Reinventing on Today at 12:05:01 AM »
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We were not privy to their dark side until the crisis hit....the therapist we saw together twice nailed it..he told my husband it was time for him to get in touch with his dark side. I was devastated by that as I thought we were seeing a therapist to help us solve whatever the problem was in our marriage...

Xyzcf, just want to say that hearing this at a therapy session close to BD would have been like someone sitting and peeling off my skin. No matter what the therapist was seeing, saying that in front of you caused huge suffering for you. And what person on this earth wouldn't be able to grasp that, especially with your long marriage, kids, etc?

I get that you are relaying this story in a different context, but as a LBS, I just have to point out how hurtful that was.
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Our Community / Radical Acceptance is the New Black
« Latest by Flummoxed on December 11, 2024, 11:01:36 AM »
💗💗 sending much love, amazinglove! I completely agree- what an asset this forum is! We are here to be chat it out any time- we all go through our ups and downs but there’s growth in the journey and that’s something we can absolutely be thankful for.

I came across a little post this morning comparing a new venture or transition to a new plant growing from seed. It will take time, and we shouldn’t dig into the soil to measure its progress. Rather, it’s all about managing what is within our control and then having faith that a little seedling will grow at its own pace. The foundational roots grow far earlier than the stalk or the leaves; progress is often not externally obvious until quite late in the game. I mean this in a very general sense, of course.

Wishing you a very speedy recovery!
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Our Community / Radical Acceptance is the New Black
« Latest by amazinglove on December 11, 2024, 09:44:47 AM »
What an absolute blessing this group is! I am completely blown away by the great wisdom in here. You people are amazing. Thank you so much those of you who replied - they were each one of them, so incredibly insightful and really soothing to me.

It helps to hear what you've learned along the way. It helps to hear what conclusions you've come to. It helps to know that I am not insane. It helps to know that I am not alone. It helps to hear what you yourself struggled with, or are still grappling with. It helps to hear about your children's experiences. It all helps.

I am so sick today with Covid but this has been such great medicine for my soul. Thank you!
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Our Community / •• Calming the crazy, life after divorce
« Latest by Treasur on December 11, 2024, 09:06:36 AM »
Good boundary on the DC party, my friend, kudos to you.

Sorry to hear about S25’s experience - pretty big ted flag as you say but sometimes we’re not ready to say No Thanks until we are, right?
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Our Community / My story
« Latest by Treasur on December 11, 2024, 09:02:47 AM »
Are you minded to say yes about the dog? Any benefit to you or the dog in that eg your being free to visit a friend? If not, not sure why one would say yes….he left the dog too after all.

It IS hard and harder perhaps at this time of year because of all the family traditions and memories of other times that go with that. I lost my father just before BD, my mother to dementia at the same time and of course my then h, and I am an only child without a close extended family. I always find Christmas a bit difficult and each year I give myself permission to step gingerly towards it and see what works for me. And that’s ok. Christmas is difficult for a lot of people, isn’t it?

Will your kids be with you for Christmas? Do you have close friends or family nearby that might allow you to celebrate differently? With or without the dog!

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