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Our Community / Need a little support
« Latest by UrsaMajor on Today at 03:47:50 AM »
From one perspective, now that he has gone on through the veil, you could treat it as if he, had, in fact died while you were still together.

The blah blah blah form his AP is just that as is hers. Considering the age differences and the "Schmoopie-lurve"  tone to what was posted on FakeBook, one could rightly assume that yes, it WAS an MLC. That is, however, now, irrelevant.

What remains is you and how you deal with the shards of what you had (and expected) as a life and THERE is where the rub lies. Unmet expectations are a real downer, especially now that there is absolutely no way those expectations can ever be met. For those of us whose Mid-Lifers are still running around, we need to "unexpect" anything form them. For you, it is an entirely different matter. I suspect that you and XYZ are possibly dealing with similar issues but in different ways as her MLC'er seemed to have had a "Road to Damascus"  moment before he passed on.

You got no such glimpse that he might be pulling his head out of his  ..... fog.....

First thing though I really need to ask..... WHY in God's Green Earth are you looking at the posts of the AP?
"Doctor, it REALLY hurts when I stick this barbeque fork in up my nose"
Doctor: "Well then..... STOP STICKING THE BARBEQUE FORK UP YOUR NOSE!"
To me, it is nothing more than "pain shopping."  You might need to ask yourself (maybe with some sort of therapy) what you get out of it.

Yes, that sounds VERY harsh but seriously, why would you keep bashing your thumb with a hammer unnecessarily?

As Zartheit noted, the "quest for enlightenment,"  meaning "Oh, if I just had one more piece of information to tell me why <whatever it was> happened or what <fill-in-the-blank>  was supposed to mean" all my issues would magically be resolved is a fools game. It doesn't, unfortunately, work that way.
Quote from: Zartheit
These questions, to me, imply a certain singular ground truth that can be extracted, if only you can work hard enough to perform the necessary grunt work to get it. What if the words he wrote are absolutely meaningless? What if they say more about his own hopes, and fears than anything externally legible? What if by trying to interpret them you are effectively trying to taste the color green with your elbow? (thanks Ursa)
He said it MUCH better (and nicer) than me but these questions are spot-on. I would add one more. What good is it doing you to keep trying to find the answers?

Trying to "understand"  MLC is like trying to change the path of a tornado by standing outside, waving your arms and yelling at it....... There is no "textbook answer," no concrete "MLC for Dummies"  handbook that tells you step by step what happened, how it happened, why it happened, and what is coming (although there is, I believe, actually a farcical book with that title) so it is really a question of how long do you wish to continue trying to make a hole in the brick wall by bashing your head into it? What is you tolerance for self-inflicted pain? What do you need for yourself to say "Hey! Self! Enough of this. I am strong, I am enough (regardless of what the Mid-Lifer said), I am worthy of love, worthy of respect, I am a whole, complete, and competent person who just happened to get kicked in the squishy bits by someone who is / was NONE of the above. That does NOT diminish MY value, my worth, my beauty, my future, and I refuse to allow it to control me any longer."

Sending hugs (along with a mild kick in the pants, an encouragement to do what you need to do, get the help you need to begin to live again out from underneath the shadow and a reminder - this was NOT your crisis, this was NOT your fault, there was NOTHING you could have done to prevent it or solve it or control it.)

One of my favorite prayers for the evening comes from the New Zealand Book of Common Prayer - one of the verses says:
"What is done, has been done. What has not been done, has not been done. Let it be."

Maybe it is time to just let it be..... and grow forward with shaping the life YOU want to have....

Ursa
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Our Community / New to group, 9 months in
« Latest by MomOfSteel on April 18, 2026, 08:46:13 PM »
Kevf1, I’m so sorry you are here but glad you found this corner of the internet.  A partner going through MLC is rough and when it is often accompanied by betrayal, rewriting history to make you into the villain it does a number on you.  I will echo what Treasur said, try to take care of the little things, you are in survival mode right now and need to take care of yourself as hard as it can be.  I’ve found myself asking the same question about my ex, whether it’s MLC or narcissism.  Sometimes I still wonder if it’s both.  You aren’t alone.  As hard as it may be to internalize right now, realize this is a reflection of her brokenness and not yours.  It won’t always feel as heavy, you will get stronger and healing does come with time.  Hugs.
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Our Community / New to group, 9 months in
« Latest by Kevf1 on April 18, 2026, 01:06:04 PM »
Thanks Treasure.

I don't know what I need really. I do struggle with working out if W is having a MLC, or something else even maybe just really didn't like me anymore.

I'm eating ok. Sleep has actually been ok until the last 2 weeks. I'm on antidepressants but missed 4 days. Since got new prescription I'm constantly tired, but hoping once back in system that will stop.
I was going to gym 3 nights a week since August but not been last 2 months, hopefully be back to it soon.
Been doing lots of reading on ML, got 8 stages of MLC, After The Bomb Drop, Divorce Remedy and Divorce Busting.
Currently out of work so way to much thinking time.
Want to be around people but at same time want to be left alone.
I do feel like this has bought on a mini MLC for me in sense I don't know who I am any more, totally lost myself. My whole purpose was being a husband, providing for my wife and her kids. Now I don't know what I like, what I enjoy. I used to laugh at everything now I just seem sad and serious all the time.
Struggle to focus on anything.
Obviously I want my marriage saved, but if not I don't know what I want for my future. The plans we had together have currently been destroyed. Scary thing is if I can't save my marriage I really can't imagine being with anybody else, so a future alone seems quite boring.
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Our Community / New to group, 9 months in
« Latest by Treasur on April 18, 2026, 11:03:51 AM »
Sorry you have to find yourself here, Kev, but we’re a friendly crowd and I hope it helps you navigate this tornado in your life. Others will come along to help. What do you think would be most helpful to you right now? What do you need?

Basics first…how are you doing with sleep, food, exercise, other things that create some stability in your life or bring you some peace or pleasure, finances, support from people who care about you? Regardless of the reasons, ypur life has been upended and it’s a rollercoaster, isn’t it? Imho the small stuff is actually big stuff when we are in the trenches.
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Our Community / Need a little support
« Latest by AllieKat on April 18, 2026, 10:17:41 AM »
I have some support but not as much as I probably need. I’m alone. Most support I had has stopped now. Im angry, mad, sad and I want to lash out at affair partner. Her post she will met him again makes me want to choke. I’m also the Marissa from the you tube videos. So much of my stuff has been on there. He ghosted me so I’m left with only crumbs. But that 2 mth AP is what kills me most seeing her posts. Luckily she was smart enough to not to dare write on his obituary page or I think my husbands mother would of hunted her down. I’m trying to take of myself but I’m so lonely more so now that I know he’s never coming back!
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Our Community / New to group, 9 months in
« Latest by Kevf1 on April 18, 2026, 05:19:29 AM »
Hi. Kev from UK. 48 years old, wife 46. Together since June 2012 & married on October 6th 2015. My wife had 5 children when we got together from 4 different men, but only 4 lived with us as the youngest lived with father from 6 months old.
I have known my wife since we were young kids as our parents were friends. I always was attracted to her but never had courage to ask her out. We lost contact as we got older and didn't see eachother for years but she was always in back of my head even when I was with the mother of my 2 daughters.
She asked me out in 2011 but I said no as she'd only recently separated from father of youngest child. Eventually in June 2012 after I was sure they wouldn't reconcile (I'd never want to come between a child's parents) we started dating. It felt like we belonged together.
Anyway. In 2020 we set up our own business. It was successful but demanded crazy hours. I worked 7 days a week, 16 hour days. For the 1st 2 years I didn't have a day off. From 2023 onwards I'd have a week off in March & October. And we'd have the occasional night or weekend out or away.
I intended to get another person working for us but our economy went belly up late 2022 and after that we couldn't afford 2.
In October 2024 we spent the week of our 9th wedding anniversary in Crete, just us 2. Had an amazing week and wife said how great we still are together. I even made her cry 1 night as she saw a necklace she liked but wouldn't buy it. As she looked in other shops I went back and bought it for her and gave it to her that night in the restaurant we visited.
In February I bought her the car she always wanted. She wanted to take her kids abroad before they all got to old so I booked a villa and April last year we all went to Portugal. Kids enjoyed it but wife didn't like Portugal and said the people were rude! (This is important later)
When we got back from Portugal she immediately started her new job. Someone was telling her at work that we went to wrong part and where they are from is much better (yes he's Portuguese).
Her 1st pay packet in May, we was in town and she wanted to buy a new wedding ring as original one was to loose, so we go into jewellers and she chooses 1. Has to be ordered but a week later she picks it up and is happy.
In March I had given our business up as it was coming to much and she had asked me to as we didn't get much time together. After giving business up, burnout hit me like a tonne of bricks and I became depressed, not helped by trying to find work, whilst wife was working and me feeling pretty useless.
In July her youngest of the 4 who lived with us turned 16. Wife wanted to take her on an 'extreme daytrip'. She got underpaid so couldn't book tickets. I said I'll cover the bills from money I had and for her to still go. On the day my wife sent me pics of her sunbathing on beach in Majorca.
Following day when she woke we was chatting about her day. Then that evening she went out to meet 1 of our old female customers who was starting a job where my wife worked (my wife never really liked this girl, but the girl wanted to know about the job etc) it was only to our local village pub, so I wished her a good night. I went to bed that evening feeling all was good in the world.
Next morning, July 12th, we are sitting in garden, talking about her evening. I looked at her and said, 'do you love me babe?'. It was something we had always done. She just looked at me and said 'its not the same anymore'. My world fell apart!
I disappeared for the day, to get my head straight. When I returned that evening all my stuff had been packed and I was told to leave. I refused as had nowhere to go at that short notice. She came up to me, said 'what you going to do, beat me'! I've never laid a finger on her in 13 years. She then threatened to smash all my stuff up. I just said 'do it then' and went up to the bedroom. 30 mins later the police turn up! She had called them. They talk to me but as I'd not raised voice of been angry etc (confirmed by her kids) they couldn't make me leave. After they left, she got on phone to someone and proper ran me into the ground, saying lots of horrible things about me so that I could hear her.
Next day I disappeared all day again to give her space and avoid arguing. I got home at 10 and she was out and came home at 02:30 that night. I walked downstairs and said I will move out in 3 days time.
The day I moved out, she went out and got the 2 tattoos of my name covered over with new tattoos and deleted all our wedding photos from my PC.
On the day of BD, she said she still feels so young, wants to get her old self back.
The job she started in April is actually the same job she had in her 20's but for different company, before she had children and responsibilities. Now her kids are all over 16 maybe she feels free again. I know she goes out drinking with her work colleagues now, whereas she was never bothered about that in our marriage.
So, after I moved out she removed every mutual friend from Facebook, even our best friends who were witnesses at our wedding and blocked me. At end of August she dropped some bits of mine she'd found to me, didn't speak until car empty, then just said she'd filed for divorce and I'd have paperwork soon. Of course, I never received paperwork and I phoned court and they confirmed no divorce had been filed against me.
In October she unblocked me to message 3 days before our wedding anniversary. We got chatting and at end of message we both agreed it had been nice chatting. A few days later she messaged but had totally changed and was angry again. She even said our holiday to Crete a year earlier was just a sticking plaster. That I'd neglected her whilst running business and the damage was done and to late to fix anything.
Over Xmas, she wanted 1 of our cars so she could sell it. It has been at garage for a year. I said it would be worth triple the price if fixed but she wanted it as is because she knew someone who wanted it. I dropped it to her under condition she could run me home. She let me in to see my dog as she hadn't let me see him since the day I moved out. On way we was having a good chat, and she said we may meet up in January.
On December 27th after exchanging Xmas messages on Xmas day, she said we won't be meeting up in January as won't change fact we are separated and getting divorced'. I said in that case you need to get the divorce sorted. Next morning she sent me a screenshot of her filing the divorce online.
Because of that in early January I removed myself from tenancy on house. I'd kept name on it as I knew she'd lose house if I wasn't as she wouldn't pass financial checks on her own but now I couldn't leave myself at risk to being tied to anything financially with her.
On January 30th this year I bumped into her. She proceeded to call me a 'f#####g c##t' as she has lost the house and having to move out. Then said something about the gym, and I said 'you look stunning', she threw her arms up in the air and said 'i know, and you've lost out'. After that she then told me it doesn't matter what I think as she's seeing someone else, it wasn't planned just happened between Xmas and new year. I said I hope your happy and that he treats you well. She said he treats her like a queen (only 'supposedly' been 4 weeks).  And I now know it's the bloke from Portugal who she works with. She even went to Portugal with him for a week in February.
She also said the divorce is paid for and I'll receive paperwork soon.
Anyway that night I done something stupid, attempted suicide and ended up in hospital. Not proud nor do I want sympathy.
Since seeing her that day, we've had no contact whatsoever. I do know she posting pics of them always together etc but only because people mention it.
I've still not received paperwork for divorce. I phoned court up 1 month ago. They said she has applied but not provided the information they've requested from her.
I also know the postman who delivers to her as he an old friend of mine. He said she still gets Amazon deliveries in her married name, so hasn't changed her details to her maiden name.

In our 13 years together she has been physically, verbally and mentally abusive. I've been headbutted, punched, kicked, scratched, bitten. She's threatened to turn my 2 daughters against me, called me every name going, I'm a $h!te dad, $h!te step dad Yadda Yadda Yadda.
I tolerate it because I know she is volatile and emotionally disregulated. Its only once, maybe twice a year, and lasts for seconds. I believe in her so much. Asked her to try therapy but she won't as her family doesn't believe in getting help.
She also cut her father out of her life for 12 years after he cheated on her mother and they got divorced, this was when she was in her early mid 20's to 30's. Now she sees her dad occasionally but the last 4 years has cut her mother and 1 sister out of her life.

So I'm unsure if this is midlife crisis or narcissistic personality disorder. Menopause and she did take medication for bipolar all our relationship but told me on 30th January she no longer takes it and feels happier and better than ever.
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Our Community / Need a little support
« Latest by zartheit on April 17, 2026, 06:06:42 PM »
I don't think you need to do anything in particular. I will say that, in my direct experience, letting go was very helpful. I found myself regularly seduced by the promise that knowledge would release me. I could only relax if I knew more. If I understood then I could position myself appropriately. I needed to learn the rhythm before I could participate in the dance. All of this was untrue and kept me in a sort of stasis. I felt more like an addict reaching for just one more conceptual framework that would neatly resolve everything. None of them ever did and I do not believe any of them ever can because this is not a problem to be solved. The intellect, for the most part, is the wrong tool for something like this. This is an emotional wounding and we can't think our way into healing.

Is it necessary to witness these things? I can imagine situations which require this but if there is any way for you to NOT read these things then it seems like it is in your best interest to not read these things, at least for the moment.

These questions, to me, imply a certain singular ground truth that can be extracted, if only you can work hard enough to perform the necessary grunt work to get it. What if the words he wrote are absolutely meaningless? What if they say more about his own hopes, and fears than anything externally legible? What if by trying to interpret them you are effectively trying to taste the color green with your elbow? (thanks Ursa)

My only input is that whatever questions you have can only be answered with time. Right now you are best served by redirecting your energy away from the rubble and onto yourself. What do you need? How can you be comforted? Are there friends that can console you? Are you heating enough? Are you eating healthily? Are you going for walks? Spending time in nature?
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Our Community / Need a little support
« Latest by AllieKat on April 17, 2026, 12:43:04 PM »
I know people will tell me to let it all go because my mlcer spouse died but I’m trying to understand the mlc so I can move forward and heal. I’m seeing things I don’t want to see now that hes gone and I’m left with the mess to clean up. Pretty good indicator he was going to get engaged as soon as D was final! Breaks my heart ofcourse by they only knew each other 2 mths prior to his death. I saw he opened a cc and ran up $2500 in 19 days all on her and seeing her. He was drinking ice coffee, something he made fun of, growing a beard for her, etc etc and the worst his “she is loce of my life” posts on social media not to mention all the i love yous on socials!! Is that typical of a mlc or maybe Ge really was in love? 🤮 she was 10 years younger and had small kids. Our daughter is 25. So especially seeing his own words written online stuck there because I can’t get his stuff deleted is a dagger! Her saying he was the love of her life and she will reunite with him again disgusts me too. I worry maybe because they started dating after he left me maybe it wasnt mlc. I know hes gone it doesn’t matter but to me it does. I adored him for 20 years. Any input I appreciate
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Our Community / Full Moon Alert VII
« Latest by UrsaMajor on April 17, 2026, 04:46:08 AM »
New Moon tonight....... And at least SOME traffic for the site

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Tonight is the New Moon in Aries heralding in a powerful new start. This is also the start of a new year in Astrology, the zodiac always begins with Aries and ends with Pisces. This will be a very intense period of new discoveries and new awakenings. We will be able to see what needs to be seen in order to fill in the gaps we have been missing and piece together the puzzle. We will see the world with a sharp clarity.
This New Moon is truly a new birth of life, inspiration and ideas. It is energetically connected to the womb of evolution, like a butterfly coming out of it’s chrysalis. The earth is changing now all around us as it wakes for the Spring, we are also waking up to what we need to do to grow and move on in our lives. Any plans, thoughts or actions seeded now could grow into something amazing.
So much of what has been suppressed is coming to the surface, this New Moon is about truth and seeing what is really there and not what we want to see. This will be a time of seeing illusions about ourselves, illusions about others and illusions about our world, all of these illusions will start crumbling away so we can rebuild on what is real and true.
This New Moon is a good time to commit to personal goals that express the positive energies of the sign of the ram. Aries is the sign of bravery so find your inner spiritual warrior who will guard your back and help keep you stay focused on your destiny. Don't be afraid to ask for more, think big and dream big. With this potent Aries energy we have the chance to make important changes in our lives. It's time to make some solid yet realistic plans, and to set the stage for reaping the rewards from our new beginnings.
This New Moon is ruled by Mars the God of war so there may be some arguments or pent up anger being released in the next few days so try to stay calm and avoid conflicts. This is a good time to look at our personal relationships, either with family, a partner, work or friends. Look at what may need improving and how to make things better. It is also a time to work on our relationship with ourselves, to realise your inner beauty, and pat yourself on the back for all the hard work you do. You will get a boost of new found confidence.
During the next few days you may experience high emotional surges, there will be more intense weather patterns, such as storms or thunder. You may be feeling that you need to get moving in your life. There may be some anxiety and impatience over where you are and where you want to be. There will be more spirit/ghost sightings. People will be acting more assertive and arguments will happen. Pets may start acting strangely.
The New Moon in Aries makes a bold statement and thus leaves no stone unturned as it may symbolically or literally directly point the way to the path that is yet untraveled. Within the unknown or unfamiliar, the universe has the opportunity to bring in wonderful surprises. This is a time to make wishes and go for what you want. Aries is a fire sign and is full of ambition and determination, use this energy to go for and get what you want.
This New Moon is all about change, it is a breath of much needed fresh air. Get rid of old baggage that holds you back. Let the fire of Aries cleanse and heal you and burn away any negative energy. This is a lucky time, so do things that you felt you couldn't do in the past, be a bit bolder, a bit louder, ask for what you want from the universe, let your thoughts and desires manifest into something real.

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Our Community / Help Please 5
« Latest by Helpnewc on April 14, 2026, 03:43:36 PM »
Thank you Off-road.

I am 2 months into the garden and starting to do a little better. It is just so much time. Everyone else is so confident I will do well and yet you do not feel it yourself.

It is such a difficult way to live. My children have gone for 10 days now and they are scared of their mum so I don’t really hear from them. I am continuing to heal. The damage is so significant.


Acceptance is the main thing. This is how my life is now. It is not a way I wanted to live but I will push through.

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