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Our Community / In a Little More Than Four Months.....
« Latest by mcm64d on Today at 11:11:42 AM »
So today is the three year anniversary of my mother-in-law passing away, which i believe started my wife's MLC.

The only family member I have contact with is her grandmother (the mother-in-law's mother). I reached out by text today to send my thoughts and asked if there was anything I could do.

She was so glad to hear from me and we exchanged messages for about a half hour. It basically ended by her telling me she is going to move nearer her nieces in Tennessee or Florida. It is because her family here in Pennsylvania is not the same. The grandmother told me that her daughter (my mother-in-law) was the glue behind the family and that since she passed it all has changed.

At 83 she is now leaving behind her son and her two granddaughters (one is my ex-wife) and says she can take care of herself. I told I never doubted it but I doubt the others can. She agreed.

I am getting angrier as I continue to think about this. I want to do something for her to make these issues go away. Whatever they are doing, it simply is not right. I know there is little I can do but do any of you have any advice? Is there a way I can help?
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Our Community / Yet another love, but not in love.
« Latest by Anoi on Today at 05:17:21 AM »
Well, surprisingly for now my H didn't loose his job over all this EA with his colleague.
He is obviously sad and all, but got himself back to relatively normal state, helps me with my driving, does some stuff around the house. Yes, ofc it's just another circle of the same MLC, but it seems like some sort of a progress...
It doesn't give me any hope or whatever, just makes the situation a little bit easier to live around.
I am focused on my own progress, which despite all the fear, fails and uncertainty slowly moves in the right direction, step by step.
In terms of dating i keep one guy with whom i like to talk, for now it's nothing but casual coffee and talking, so let's put it in socializing folder.
No craziness for a couple of weeks would be really good... :)
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Our Community / Disappearing Husband
« Latest by KayDee on Today at 02:50:49 AM »
Dear AM,

Welcome, and so sorry you are here. If your H is in crisis you will constantly be asking the 'whys' - the answer is usually MLC (or my go to 'who knows?').  My educated guess as to why your H turns off his location settings is that he doesn't want you to know where he is. And as you seem to intuit, he is likely in some sort of affair ((((sorry)))). When a person enters this kind of crisis, they seem to run (like a huge runaway freight train) on pure emotion, and little gets in their way. Your safest option may be to step out of the way for a while. Could you turn your own location off and let go? Trust me, I know it is HARD, but at the moment, his focus is on himself (that's why he cries, IMO) and not you. He is on his own journey for now, you must begin yours.

I'm sure one of the vets here will respond soon with links to how to survive the first few months. In short, securing your own finances and focusing on your own health (exercise, counseling and time with people you love + trust) is key. Your H will likely continue to do things that confuse, astound and hurt you. The more safety you can create for yourself the better. Get strong to be strong for what may come.

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Our Community / Whiplash from clinging boomerang
« Latest by Happylight on May 04, 2024, 07:33:22 PM »
Struggling.  I should be happy, right.? Things are heading in the right direction.  He just spent a solid week here—the longest time in a year -and was actually present and connected for it, which hasn't happened in probably ????? He’s calm, we aren’t arguing or fighting.     

I am wiped out.  I am so tired.  I am struggling to make myself do all the things that need to be done.  When he’s away, I distract myself and stay busy and I get a lot done.  Right now I just feel like my tank is just empty and I find it very frustrating.  I still have no answers or information other than anecdotal based on observations and years of knowing a person.  I don’t feel angry or sad—just tired.

He joked this week about his AARP invitation he got in the mail.  He was very grateful for some things I did for him and for the kids.  He has told me to just do what I think is best because he trusts me when I asked for advice on something financial.  He cleaned and reorganized his office here at the house.  He has spent a lot of time playing his video game, which he hasn’t done for about a year. 

I feel like lots of positives, but not knowing where the finish line is or even if there is one is hard.

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Our Community / Re: Disappearing Husband
« Latest by Baxter1 on May 04, 2024, 11:10:59 AM »
Ashley,

Sounds MLCish, the spending, secrecy, doing things out of character. Did you take the quiz? I know for me personally having a label helped me understand. I have read (and re-read) 8 stages of Mid Life Crisis. It has really helped me (along with this forum and Kendas videos).

Not sure of your situation but I personally spoke to a lawyer to know my rights. It doesn’t mean you have to hire them or do anything but knowledge is power. Also physically take care of you. Like most here, I was sleepless and lost weight during the first couple of months.

Other than that come here to vent,ask,read, whatever to help you. The people here are great and have been there and done that(and sone still are in the middle of it).
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Our Community / Disappearing Husband
« Latest by Ashley Mayo on May 04, 2024, 10:22:20 AM »
Yes, he even cries as he is saying it. I don't buy it. Not with all the other signs of a mid-life crisis. In January, February, and March he was spending money like it was nothing. That is way out of character for him. He would spend our bill money and then I would have to figure out how to fix it. I do the bills and usually before he buys something, he would always ask me if we had the money to do so. Not necessarily asking for permission, just making sure it was in our means. He would always make sure the bills were paid first as well. He has never been the type to just go on spending sprees. He is responsible when it comes to money. But in March he spent almost $800 alone, on just himself. That is way out of character.

I am praying I can get some good advice on here. You are the only reply I have gotten, but it is comforting to know that someone else has experienced this as well. Thank you for responding. I am so so sorry you have to go through this, as well. I wouldn't worse this on my worst enemy that is for sure.

Ashley Mayo
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Our Community / Re: statistics regarding male LBS stories on the forum
« Latest by marvin4242 on May 04, 2024, 08:51:45 AM »
My advice is like so many others, if they want to leave, let them go. Focus on you and here's the kicker that I don't think gets enough merit on this forum, also focus on your own FOO issues.

Now granted, yes, many of these wayward spouses (both male and female) were people who showed up every day with a smile and had people believing they were mary poppins and mother theresa all rolled into one who suddenly exploded and if you're here now reading this, I'm sure you've awoken to the idea that wasn't the reality at all.

So while yes, it's possible that these people totally fooled us, I think it's quite more likely that our own FOO issues is what allowed us to be fooled in the first place by blinding us to red flags or by not giving us the guidance and experience to recognize what a red flag even is.

What an excellent point, this can' be emphasized enough.
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Our Community / What am I dealing with here?
« Latest by xyzcf on May 04, 2024, 07:21:10 AM »
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My reasons for not initiating a divorce are 3 things.

1 - I love my W. I believe in long suffering, and the commitment I made in marriage. What if several months or years after a D she comes back around? Unlikely I know...
2 - I've said over and over to my kids that I don't believe in divorce. I think they'd hate me and lose respect for me if I was the one that initiated it.
3 - I have some serious religious and moral beliefs around divorce. The whole Idea of it is a complete moral and spiritual failure in my mind...

But, on the other side, my W has said clearly that she's done, and she doesn't love me. And she backs it all up with treating my like dog sh%$ every day in front of our kids. On top of it, we have some serious business and financial issues that she's completely uncooperative with and leaving me to try to resolve them all alone without any help or input by her...

This is seriously the toughest spot I've ever been in...

I understand very clearly your beliefs about divorce. I still share those beliefs many years later.

I cannot change this, even though he left our marriage...still doesn't mean that divorce was the right thing.  I was able to obtain a legal separation which allowed us to divide our assists...he filed for a divorce 9 years after we separated. He never explained why, he sent me a text message to tell me.  :(

It changed nothing really, he continues to be in contact with me. He owns that divorce, not me.

There is a Christian movie I watched called Fireproof...at the time, I thought it was rather hookey but after sleeping that night, when I woke up the next morning it struck me "you never leave your partner behind in a fire".

It is said that MLC is the mother of all depressions, a crisis of identity. Even living it, it is hard to comprehend...yet we see the changes in our spouses, the 180 degree change in them.

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We used to always joke about how we each have half a brain and together we make a complete brain of 1 person.  There's probably some codependency involved in each of us. Whatever...

Our best friend became a stranger and has done wild and painful things....many reasons and a combination of many factors but I also believe that there is spiritual factor as many here have written how their spouse turned away from their faith.

We must not allow this to destroy us...and so we "preach here" or some do that we focus solely on own lives.....I have been able to do that yet still remain aware, that the person I loved for 35 years is in a bad way...and his crisis, in some ways similar to other developmental stages  ( the terrible two's, adolescence, perhaps even menopause/andropause) is something that happens to them. We are the collateral damage.

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It seems like MLC's coming from a traumatic childhood is a common theme around here.  I know its a huge part of my W's issues.  I'm wondering if there are any MLC'ers who haven't had traumatic childhoods?

From what I know, my husband had loving and caring parents and he was very close to them. I felt his mother was emotionally distant and I have some suspicion of things that might have happened to himn during his childhood......MLC is a perfect storm, biological, hormonal, developmental and spiritual factors that all create the perfect storm.

Thanks for posting and expressing your beliefs about marriage and divorce.
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Our Community / The last stages are just as hard
« Latest by xyzcf on May 04, 2024, 07:04:14 AM »
Welcome to Heros Spouse and thank you for posting your story.

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With H's reflection and perspective I trust we are heading down the right path and we are nearing the end (it's been almost 5 years of this circus!) where I hope H begins to find some peace and identity and we can begin to move forward in the next stage of our relationship and heal together from this confusing time in our lives.

This is a long story, my first post although I have been a reader for years, but felt it was time to post and see if others are able to share their wisdom as we navigate H taking responsibility, doing the hard inner work, and wanting to repair the lost trust.

My observation of couples who reconcile is that it is a slow process and in some respects, it happens generically. Just like MLC, they have to continue to do their own inner work. And yet, there still can be some shutting down or going backwards.

If you read Acorn's thread's, they are very good at expressing how she and her husband reconciled. Remembering that every situation is different.

The idea of the stages of MLC are not talked about as much as they used to be.  Heartsblessing wrote in depth about the stages and you might find her work helpful.

https://thestagesandlessonsofmidlife.org/the-six-stages-of-a-mid-life-crisis/



Taking care of yourself is really important. I think being open to their return and knowing when the "right" time is to start communication about what has happened and your needs is difficult to determine.

I do know people who have reconciled and doing well years later. Please come back and con tinue telling your story as things progress.
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Our Community / What am I dealing with here?
« Latest by gman242 on May 04, 2024, 04:55:29 AM »
I wasn't saying that the relationship, love or any of it wasn't real. And you're right, all of this comes from unhealed trauma and to cope with it, the common theme is they tend to strive for perfectionism and to appear like they have it all together.

I wasn't trying to make it sound like everything (their lives and everything in it) is a lie, but it is a deception, a mask that covers the unhappiness, the unresolved issues and it's like you were saying, it runs under the surface. That's all I was referring to.

 And you're right too, the stress of keeping on the mask can be too much at some point and that can be all it takes. Or something else may happen too and it becomes the straw that broke the camels back.

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