Midlife Crisis: Support for Left Behind Spouses
Archives => Archived Topics => Topic started by: onmyfeet on June 05, 2010, 09:02:10 AM
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Deirdre Bair wrote a New York Times op-ed article about the Gores' divorce at this link: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/04/opinion/04bair.html?src=me&ref=general.
Here's what one commenter wrote. I think it's articulate and accurate (except the part about the "feminist manifesto" which I think is unnecessary.)
I've read Ms. Bair's book...and others. I can speak from experience. As a 53 year old traditional Husband and Father, my lovely wife left me after 30 years. You don't hear the male perspective frankly. Her decision destroyed a family of four. My two sons were taught that humans are disposable, commitments don't matter, self-fufillment and freedom are more important to explore than marital continuity. And we wonder why our children don't see point or purpose in staying the course? Dedication to a marriage is sacrosanct in nearly every society that is faith-based. How is it that one spouse can decide the fate of all involved and get paid for it all the while? Men who leave for a new younger woman are true pigs in my opinion. Women who leave because they can seem to express the ultimate feminist manifesto. Its ironic if one abandons a pet, they can be charged with a crime. In marriage, if you don't like the dog, abandon it, get your money and get a new dog. The collateral damage from selfish actions is mind boggling. Simply Google "divorce and suicide" and you'd be stunned at the numbers. I love my wife still. I can only have hope. She was the foundation of our family like most every family I know. Rather than applauding divorce at any time in a marriage, why can we not applaud marriage, family, commitment, continuity, connectedness and belonging to something greater than self?
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Has anyone heard Mel Gibson's monster rant to his OW? WOW
It never should have been released, but b/c of the MLC connection (does anyone doubt that is what he has been going thru?) I am glued to it.
I cheered and understood some of what he said. (ie., "I left my wife for you!) That I did, scared me! I like seeing the karma bus hit OW. I know this is terrible to admit. Does that make me an awful person?
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Haha - LGO, that does not make you a terrible person! You are human. I just wish I had given that karma bus a little push - oh, did I say that out loud??
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Oh, MAN, I am so glad you started this thread!! I wanted to, but was afraid I'd be chastised for wandering into judgement, etc. I'd bet money that Mel has been in MLC for years!! Devoted husband and family man with 7 or 8 kids (or whatever) super religious and pious starts cheating, drinking and ranting in public - THEN, OW "accidentally on purpose to get him away from wife" gets pregnant because we ALL know how the cheaters are concerned about protection, etc. and LO and BEHOLD when she doesn't solve all of his problems (which are obviously deep) he turns his wrath to HER!! Well, cry me a river. At least she will have his money. And while we're on the subject, how about LEANNE RHIMES!!! Sorry for the hurt she caused in her affair but not sorry for the result!!! Time to bring back the scarlet A in my opinion. Sorry, just a touchy subject with me right now...
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And is there any doubt that Jon Gosselin (of Jon and Kate Plus 8) is having a raging MLC?
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Oh, MAN, I am so glad you started this thread!! I wanted to, but was afraid I'd be chastised for wandering into judgement, etc.
Why would you think that? The Bible says to "Judge not, let ye be judged; whatever judgement ye mete out shall be meted back to you"(Paraphrase)..yet, if we didn't exercise some form of judgement on a daily basis, we would wander into all sorts of things.
We judge people by their actions, and because of what they say, and that is a different kind of judgement; one that is encouraged...through that, we know what to stay away from or be drawn to. The Bible also says to "test the spirits", as all do not come from Him.
I find myself doing that quite a bit as I walk this life. :) If someone says something you know is against God's Word; you are to challenge them on it...as His Word is truth.
The judging verse simply means if we judge someone, by their actions or otherwise, we will be judged by the person we've done it to, or even by another person; if that makes sense. :)
God will ultimately judge in the end...but no one on this earth has a right to tell someone where they are going when they die..that's the kind of judgement I stay strictly away from. No one knows the hearts of people except the Lord.
Anyway, I heard an excerpt of Mel Gibson's recorded phone call to his girlfriend; and you're right; he's deep within the tunnel; has lost total control of himself...and will pay dearly in the death of his career..from what the news report says and thinks.
I didn't have any trouble recognizing his voice; and was a little shocked at what I was hearing.
I actually liked Mel Gibson, too.
Trusting, I don't know about Jon Gosselin..but it's a possibility.
Y'all are funny with the "karma bus" talk, LOL!!!
Be assured that what comes around, does indeed, go around; all in good time. :)
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I really think that Jon Gosselin is in MLC. When you watch the episode from last year, just before they seperated you can see and hear a man deeply depressed. You also see him dressing like a teenager and the "eyes" there is so much in the eyes. He has also displayed lots of antics and drama. I've been watching thier story closely because I'm interested to see where it will go. He recently moved to an apt closer to Kate and the kids.
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Buggy, I have been watching closely too (but not the show anymore) as their timeline is so similar to mine. I noticed the same thing about the depression and he certainly has the antics down.
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I don't know about Jon Gosselin..but it's a possibility.
I remember watching an interview with Jon regarding a "midlife crisis". He said something to the effect that he was only 30 when his feelings changed and didn't believe it had anything to do with a crisis.
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Honestly, I think Kate belittled Jon A LOT on TV. That can wear on anyone! She never showed any respect for him and I think he just got sick of it. I don't agree with how he handled it; however, if I was treated that way on TV, I would be a little upset too.
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I fantasize and hope that one day my husband will spew at his adultery partner the way Mel is spewing at his. Should I be ashamed to say this? Maybe, but I'm entitled to my feelings and they are not so charitable right now. She deserves to feel like s**t and I can only hope it happens on a regular basis. Life is so unjust and I would just like to find a little justice. HB says our husbands will feel the consequences of their guilt for the rest of their lives. I don't actually want to punish my husband, but can't help him with the guilt. I bear the guilt of some of my past actions willingly because it is appropriate even though I forgive myself. Why should anyone else be let off the hook? While I am trying to find forgiveness for her, my children suffer and she is screwing my husband with no thought whatsoever about us.
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I sympathise. My H is only having an EA, which means they pair if them can convince themselves they are not doing anything wrong. I fantasise about my H finally seeing through her, seeing her for the spoilt manipulative girl that she is. I fantasise about telling her what I think of her. I cannot imagine how much worse you feel, LG, in your situation!
The worst thing is that this venemous feeling can destroy us. That's what we have to overcome in order to forgive and find peace. Hard, isn't it?
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The only fantasy re: OW I've had recently (although not in the beginning) is that OW will go back to OWH and apologize and make up to him... he seems like a sweet guy - and leave MY H alone to go through his MLC without her.
I pray for her often and hope that she wakes up because she is clearly in some sort of crisis, whether it's MLC or not. I suspect it is. She is clearly not right in the head. I don't wish punishment on anyone, instead I pray for her salvation. Although I do sometimes daydream about her apologizing to me in a way that it becomes clear that she recognizes what she's (AND my H) done to my marriage and family.
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I don't have any fantasies about confronting OW or having anything to do with her; I hope that I NEVER meet her. I kept thinking about what my H said when he was giving me the "speech" for the last time (received it 3 times); he said that he needed to be on his own for a while, to find "his own voice" - well, seems that OW is now his voice as she seems to be his puppet master; she is possessive and controling. How is that being "on his own" or finding "his own voice"? I pray that he will wake up and see through all of her BS, but that hope dwindles a little bit more every day :-(.
When I was on another MLC website forum, a woman joined and told her story; her marriage was ending because her H was having an affair and giving her all the MLC behaviors; further in her story, she reveals that SHE was her H's OW before they were married; SHE broke up her H's first marriage! She also said that she used every trick in the book and fought hard to steal this man away from his wife, and she felt victorious when she "won" him. WOW, I posted a comment to her thread that she was brave to post that story on a forum that was filled with woman who were pissed off and hurt because their H's were having an affair.
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Sorry to say that is more common than you may think.
Hey with divorce rates running at 50% lots of people get remarried.
So now my question is, are they all in MLC?
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I can hear another voice too. One that is not his. It seems as though he is brainwashed. I don't mean innocent I just mean sucked into somebody else's ideas. Ideas that would have been ludicrous before. For example, "Tell me how this could be hurting our children?" or "Is it good to stay together for the children?" My husband also mimics my voice too. He's actually using language that I use during the crisis. The problem is that he doesn't have his "own voice" either.
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When I was on another MLC website forum, a woman joined and told her story; her marriage was ending because her H was having an affair and giving her all the MLC behaviors; further in her story, she reveals that SHE was her H's OW before they were married; SHE broke up her H's first marriage! She also said that she used every trick in the book and fought hard to steal this man away from his wife, and she felt victorious when she "won" him. WOW, I posted a comment to her thread that she was brave to post that story on a forum that was filled with woman who were pissed off and hurt because their H's were having an affair.
I once knew a lady years ago who was like this; she married her affair...and well, what went around, came around...but hers ended quite well; she came through WITH her husband...and it was posted on another forum. Believe it or not, I NEVER got anything from the Lord to tell her, although I kept up with her story, right through to the end, and I really liked her alot.
I respected her honesty and she was forthcoming about what she'd done so many years before this.
She KNEW what she'd done in stealing another woman's husband had indeed come back to haunt her; as she'd interrupted his MLC..and when they went through, it was WORSE than it had been the first time, and lasted longer.
Ladies, I'm going to tell you all something; if your husband's didn't want to have an affair, regardless of what was happening within them, they wouldn't be having an affair. Your husbands are WEAK people who fell to temptation.
It takes TWO people to make up an affair, and say what you want, blame the OW if you want; but your HUSBAND'S were just as responsible for what happened as the OW.
At first, I put ALL the blame on the OW, but as time went by, the LORD began to deal with me about who had the most blame..and it was my husband who carried the MOST responsibility for being WEAK and falling to temptation.
I realize some of you don't want to hear that; yet, I'm speaking truth here...I know that until I could find the strength to forgive the OW and my husband, I could NOT move forward myself.
OW/OM does NOT deserve ANY of your energy of thought, or even the "fantasies" of confrontation...when you allow your mind to dwell on the OW/OM, you give him/her POWER over YOU...and it can lead to being VERY bitter.
You may say it wouldn't happen to you, but when you keep the affair within your thoughts, your anger grows...don't give this power; it will eat you alive; and you will be the one who pays emotionally when you don't sleep at night because these thoughts stay after you.
God WILL deal with the affairees, don't think for one minute He won't. It may not happen as fast as you would like it to, but I've found that as long as I held onto the thoughts of revenge, otherwise; it was HURTING ME, NOT THEM.
Learn to let go, forgive OW/OM....and STOP fantasizing about things that you KNOW aren't going to happen.
You'll be fortunate if they ever apologize for even HALF of what they do during the crisis...although the guilt will be within them. Mine apologized to me, but still put me through much more before it was finished; as he was working out many things within himself, and I had to deal with and accept it.
Men can be sneaky creatures when it comes down to it(Sorry, OP, you may not be that way, but some men are), and they will slide back in as much as possible as the crisis winds down; and they "sneak" their way back in.
I watched my husband's ACTIONS and the CHANGES he went through; words didn't mean anything to me. ACTIONS, and positive CHANGE within them are most important..you will see what I speak of down the line; when/if they progress forward as time goes on.
Just a little food for thought.
Don't be offended; the words may look angry; but I've been in your shoes before, and know how you feel....and that knowing is what keeps me continuing to reveal who I am, and what I did, and what I learned within this.
I firmly believe that "vengeance is mine saith the Lord" and I've seen that vengeance in action before...it didn't come when I thought it should have come, but it came in God's time, which certainly wasn't mine. :)
Y'all have a good one. :)
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Thanks for your insight, HB. I absolutely agree that it takes 2 to have an affair. I, in no way shape or form, think that my H was an innocent party in this. He sought out someone - this much I know. And, I have no idea what he told OW about us; he could have lied to her and told her that he was divorced already - who knows! It's just an ugly thing altogether. I really wish that I wasn't in this situation, but I am and I have to deal with it the best I can; thanks to all of you, I am dealing with it much better than I could ever have done!
xoxoxo
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Hb, I totally agree with you. Dwelling on OW/OM is not healthy.
However, I had a small (ok, huge) amount of enjoyment seeing an OW get a taste of what I've been through.
I said "neener, neener", and moved on! We all reap what we sow....eventually.
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Hb, I totally agree with you. Dwelling on OW/OM is not healthy.
However, I had a small (ok, huge) amount of enjoyment seeing an OW get a taste of what I've been through.
I said "neener, neener", and moved on! We all reap what we sow....eventually.
I had to laugh and hard at that, LGO. I know God has a sense of humor, or I couldn't have made it through this, myself. He and I were both laughing at one point at some of the trouble my husband was having....I said that I thought I was wrong for seeing humor in it..but the Lord reminded me that my husband was reaping what he'd sown in corruption, and some of it WAS funny..and I remember laughing some more..then going on.
I also got a kick out of watching him run for the phone when it rang as the affair was ending...I simply looked at the caller ID, and said "Nope, not HER."...got a puzzled look when I laughed and walked off. LOL!!
They are SO dumb about what they do to try and hide their wrongs. LOL!!
There were times I laughed myself into hysteria when I would think about how stupid he was...but the Lord never got onto me about it; just laughed with me...and we both went on. :)
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I also got a kick out of watching him run for the phone when it rang as the affair was ending...I simply looked at the caller ID, and said "Nope, not HER."...got a puzzled look when I laughed and walked off. LOL!!
Hee hee...
They are SO dumb about what they do to try and hide their wrongs. LOL!!
Just about as clever as a 4 year old with a hand in the cookie jar with crumbs on his mouth sayin' "what cookies?"
There were times I laughed myself into hysteria when I would think about how stupid he was...but the Lord never got onto me about it; just laughed with me...and we both went on. :)
Humor is a wonderful tonic for everything. Like sugar, it helps the medicine go down!
The funniest thing my H has developed with his MLC is his, ahem, bathroom problem. He has to go sooo much! His phone even alerts him to his need to go! The phone rings and all of sudden the need to go becomes most urgent! LOLol Poor guy, he needs some fiber!!
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LGO, my H also seemed to have a lot of "stomach problems" (his words) for a few months there. Yup, I thought that was a good name for her, too. ;D
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I've been watching that show Two and Half men. It is like watching MLC TV!
The one I saw tonight, Charlie's mother married her second husband. He had a MLC and left for a younger woman. They are now at his funeral and the younger woman got left for even another younger woman. WIfe #3. Of course Charlie decides to hit on Wife #3(the widow) who is younger than he is.
Its never ending.
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LGO - you make me laugh! Thanks, I needed that. When I DO see my H, his need isn't to go to the bathroom, it's to take out the trash or recyclables - ha!
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When it comes to blaming, Mel can blame OW, this reminds me of Adam and Eve. Exactly, Adam blames Eve while Eve blames the serpent and it just goes round and round. So are they both to blame, in my opinion YES. One is as wrong as the other so hopefully Mel knows better.
And I am so glad if the OW gets half of his spoils, just to teach him a lesson.
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I listened last night and it sounds to me like he is disgusted with himself for being with her and wants to blame her. However, it's his weakness. Some racial slurs thrown in - nice. Hope he loses his career over those sentiments... in any case, I just thought he sounded like a hate filled man entirely and through and through. He is to blame for what he did. In his situation, I put a LITTLE (slightly) less blame on the girl because he has so much money, power and prestige that a social climber like her would have found him almost irresistible. However, she's still responsible for her part.
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OW/OM does NOT deserve ANY of your energy of thought, or even the "fantasies" of confrontation...when you allow your mind to dwell on the OW/OM, you give him/her POWER over YOU...and it can lead to being VERY bitter.
I've found that as long as I held onto the thoughts of revenge, otherwise; it was HURTING ME, NOT THEM.
Learn to let go, forgive OW/OM....and STOP fantasizing about things that you KNOW aren't going to happen.
I needed to see this today. It's what I need to do. This bitterness eats me up inside. I want to be better than that.
But as for fantasizing about things that aren't going to happen, has anyone see the Meryl Streep film "It's complicated". She has an A with her ex H, OW (now W) finds out, and she ends up dumping ex H for a new man. Total revenge, wonderful (but only a fantasy).
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Anyone notice that Tiger Woods shot 18 over par this weekend.
I was listening to ESPN this morning and they said, it is more than just his golf game.
His life is a mess.
He has a lot of growing up to do.
They asked him if he was practicing enough and he said,
I am spending time with my children, that is the most important thing right now.
So at least he is trying to reconnect with his children.
This is a long process.
He won't play well for at least another year.
I guess his bomb drop was last Thanksgiving when Elin hit him with the Golf Clubs in the driveway.
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It seems like there are a lot of men in the media who are having what would be considered early midlife crisis. They seem to be in the 30ish age range. My H is young too. Tiger Woods, Jon Gosselin, Tiki Barber. If you read their stories they all had some clear triggers. Tiger's was probably his dad's death.
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I believe Jon Gosselin's dad died not a couple of years ago also.
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Yes
I tried to find some info on line and couldn't. I wonder if his parents were divorced. He certainly had some major stressors. THe birth of 8 kids is no joke but I think Kate handled herself well despite all the attacks. She has some work to do on herself but I can't stand how the media loves to make men's "bad behavior" an excuse for a crazy wife. Cameras constantly filming your marriage and family life with eight kids now that's MIRROR work!
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I agree totally with you Buggy. I think she has gotten a lot of grief for the way she treated Jon (or was portrayed to - editing can skew things in exaggerated directions for sure) and maybe rightfully so but that is NO REASON for his horrible behavior.
I saw a snippet of one show once when he had quit his job to stay home while Kate traveled and promoted her book or whatever. I think they were asking him about how he felt about it or something like that. He seemed so lost and without purpose. And having eight kids would be a huge stress, especially with the added fun of having camera crews around a lot.
I am not sure his parents were divorced or not, but I do remember that his father had passed away.
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Just an interesting tidbit
I was reading about Mel and his Wife today. Some interesting facts
He and his wife seperated in 2006. This was when he started showing his crazy. In April 2009 she filed for divorce. Apparently that's when he got pretty bad. His OW had a baby in Oct 2009. Now he's spewing like crazy. Wonder if Mel's wife was a stander and the pregnancy was the last straw? THe article implied that his wife was always his rock and that the OW was totally opposite the type of person Mel was attracted too. Hmmmmmmmmmm....MLC methinks?
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Just for the record, OP, In Elin's exclusive interview with People magazine she claims SHE NEVER HIT HIM WITH GOLF CLUBS. I'm not buyin' it though...What else would she hit him with? ;D ;D ;D
Disclaimer: I am in NO WAY advocating domestic violence under any circumstances. I am a realist and I know certain forms of psychological abuse can spark an inappropriate and out of control rage.
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LOL
I heard that in the last few days too.
She claims she was breaking the window to rescue him from the car crash.
With the golf clubs.
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Well, in the end it doesn't matter and maybe she had to protect herself in the divorce proceedings. I just wish someone would tell the truth every now and then.
If it were ME, I would LIKE to have said "Of course I went after him with his golf clubs... I'm only sorry I didn't whup his a** and only broke the windshield but that is because IRL I am a normal human being who was pushed to the brink of temporary insanity by his serial unfaithfulness to me with about a hundred other skanky women and we all know anger is depression turned inward. When it happens to you, let me know how you handle it more politically correct." :)
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Just an interesting thing going on in the media with Jon Gosselin...I thought you all might be interested be interested...he has issued a statement admitting to "some shame" for his actions.....it's all in classic MLC fashion where he's not taking fully responsibility....but i find it interesting watching some of these more public cases play out..it's another window into the process...and timeline...I think his bomb drop was approximately 18 months to 2 years ago....just a sidenote
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Buggy, I don't know much about the Gosselin's because I've never watched their show... I did comment on another similar thread about Mel Gibson showing CLASSIC signs of MLC behavior - leaving the long marriage with all the kids, monster behavior, hook-up with younger woman who immediately gets pregnant, then monster again as his life got worse, not better and he's blaming it on her.... his OW seems to also be show classic affair down behaviors, hence the getting pregnant to get him away from the wife, etc.
My NEW MLC diagnoses goes to Bret Favre.... my husband's FAVORITE right now and I believe HE shows MLC signs for the past several years! Crying, retiring, un-retiring, crying, crying, crying, now the alleged text photos of his pen** sent to young woman while married, crying after winning a game, crying after losing a game...
I just read an article about the theory that pesticides in our food source is causing Estrogen Dominance and therefore "male menopause" and how "detoxing" can help a man produce testosterone at healthy levels. It stated that testosterone replacement caused the testes to NOT produce on their own and so would work for awhile, but would eventually be less effective. Hmmm. If only we had control of our husbands like lab mice....
Anyway, sorry if I messed up your new discussion - didn't mean to, but I like to indulge in celebrity gossip every now and then to ease the tension of real life!
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Buggy - I have thought for quite awhile that Jon Gosselin was having an MLC. I hadn't heard the latest on him. Their timeline is very similar to mine. His symptoms certainly fit - younger (mostly) women, changing the way he dressed, taking up smoking after not, etc. I believe his dad passed away maybe 3-4 years ago? He was young when they married and got shouldered with a lot of responsibility with the kids, and then quit his job to stay home with them I think - all a perfect storm for MLC if you ask me.
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Just heard a 1/2 hour interview with Tiger Woods on ESPN this morning.
It is almost his 1 year anniversary. Happened on Thanksgiving.
He sounded good, said his children were the most important thing in his life and that
he had made a lot of mistakes, but took responsibility for those mistakes.
Quite interesting!
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Ira Glass replayed a segment on infidelity from 2009 this am on NPR. The second segment is a most interesting memory of what looks to me like a woman's MLC. Listen to it--it's so sad, but interesting. The whole show is good, if you want, but sad if you are not in a good place, spoiler alert, I know, but I don't want anyone to be surprised. The segment is about a woman and her parents, and you can find her at rubywright.com.
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All of you should listen to this...really good...and reeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaally interesting. I don't buy that the first woman has entirely taken responsibility for her affair but...it DEF sounds like MLC...she explains the fog and not remembering but I still get the sense she's blaming her M. I love this American Life and I don't get it on my NPR station here so this was a treat.
Thanks for POSTING
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OK, I must be stupid, I've clicked all over the site and can't get anything to play.
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http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/393/infidelity
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Thanks for the link and for introducing me to 'This American Life'. I'm Canadian, and haven't heard the show before. I downloaded the iPhone app and so now have a fresh stock of well produced broadcasts to listen to.
The show was really interesting. I could relate to the first story. The woman in that story bonded with her OM over the death of her father - just as my wife did in her EA. I thought it was unusual that her husband and the OM remained friends!!! It was also interesting that it was their daughter that developed the documentary! From what the woman was saying, she missed out on 5 years of the daughter's teenage growth. I thought that I could detect some (understandable) loss between mother and daughter ... and almost an unspoken request for forgiveness from the mother. As Buggy noted, I think the woman stopped short of taking responsibility.
I could also relate to the man in the piece - in what he was saying about their 'love life'. Prior to BD our love life had been going downhill, though we had actually been trying for a baby! Or should I say I was hopeful for a baby, but my wife, it turns out, was undecided. I blamed myself too for problems in the bedroom, but as the saying goes, 'it takes two to tango'.
I could relate too to the brilliant story about the guy being attracted to the French girl. I thought that it was a very honest piece - recognizing very serious themes in himself beneath the wit and class of his writing - about how he fought back and didn't succumb to the affair, but was scared of commitment.
A few years ago, a woman that I worked with invited me to spend the weekend with her. We were close at work, and I admit that I was attracted to her - she was smart, funny, good looking, energetic, hard working and 7 years younger than me. I walked away. I had my wife, my best friend that I wouldn't do that to. I had two children. It was a temptation though. I remember going home that night and being especially glad to hold my family. Almost relieved.
About a year later the woman left to work in another city. On the day she was saying goodbye to everyone, she came by my office and gave me a very, very long hug. Raised a few eyebrows. Looked me in the eye and told me some really nice things about myself.
I'd helped her in her work. I was her manager, and her mentor. She was a great worker - very reliable. I valued my whole team and I helped each one of them. If they worked well, it reflected on our team - we could take on more work, better projects ... we could enjoy our work more. I helped them frame their work - understand and push themselves and push their place in our company. With that woman, I guess maybe we both took something more from each other, though I genuinely never intended for it to become something beyond a working relationship. It can be a fine line.
I wonder what it is that stops a person from crossing the boundary, or as the woman in the first act suggested ( and I've heard in other stories ) makes a person feel entitled to the new relationship. When I first started therapy, my therapist talked about 'unmet needs'. I think we all have unmet needs at different stages of our lives. I don't think that our spouses should be on the hook for them ALL. I think it is harsh on a LBS for them to be told they fell short of meeting the needs of their spouse and the penalty is divorce. There likely is some degree of truth in a spouse not meeting the needs, but that should be fixable, forgivable.
In my case, my own childhood was not idyllic ... but I absolutely know that I was safe and I was loved ... cherished ... and I think that's a vital ingredient. I know that my wife literally spoke the words to me: 'I don't know if my dad loved me, I'll never know'.
Thanks again for the link.
BNW
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THE wife of Celtic coach Alan Thompson yesterday claimed the couple's 15-year marriage has collapsed because he is having a mid-life crisis.
Heartbroken wife of Celtic coach Alan Thompson blows whistle on split and blames his midlife crisis...
Joanne, 41, revealed their "idyllic" partnership came crashing down six months ago when Parkhead manager Neil Lennon's right-hand man told her he had met someone else.
The mum-of-three said she had no choice but to split from him after the bombshell - because she could never be the type of WAG who stands by their husband, such as England skipper John Terry's wife Toni.
And she hit out at her ex, who has been seen enjoying nights out recently with a 34-year-old former model and one-time Britney Spears lookalike.
Thompson, 37, insisted the break-up was "amicable" whe he confirmed the couple were divorcing last month.
But Joanne, who lives in the couple's mansion in Morpeth, Northumberland, with their three young kids, said: "It's over because I knew he had met someone else.
"I haven't a clue how long they have known each other but he told me in December.
"I don't know and don't care how long it has been but he can do it in his own time now.
"I'm not going to be a Toni Terry because there's more to life than money and fame. It's about self-respect and dignity. If I can walk away with that then I will be happy.
"I'm going to write a book about this and I want every single other footballer's wife in the world that's had it done to them to stand up and applaud me."
Former ballet dancer Joanne has not spoken to Thompson since serving him with divorce papers in the middle of last month.
He moved into a bachelor pad in Glasgow's west end, while Joanne stayed in the family home with their children, aged 13, 12 and eight.
Joanne, who has been married to Thompson for nearly 15 years, says he is having a midlife crisis.
She added: "I will never understand it, I will never, ever get my head round what he has done to me.
"We were idyllically married. I will never discredit my marriage. He is having a midlife crisis so he can get on with it.
"He had absolutely everything in the palm of his hand - a loyal, faithful wife and three beautiful children.
"I never looked at another man, he never looked at another woman. I'm not making excuses for him but all the fame and ego has gone to his head."
Despite her heartbreak, Joanne, who still drives her husband's white Range Rover with his personalised registration, has ruled out a reunion and says he is no longer the man she married.
She said: "There's absolutely no way on God's earth I'd take him back right now. I'm divorcing him but I'm not divorcing 'my Alan'. He was a lovely, good, sound man. I'm divorcing another man altogether."
The Hoops coach issued a press statement in April confirming that he was splitting from his wife: "Amicable divorce proceedings are going ahead. I want to get on with my own life with dignity and privacy."
He has recently been spotted out on in trendy bars and restaurants in Glasgow with his new companion.
After entering a competition for a modelling contract 12 years ago, the former model told a paper: "My secret to looking good is smiling and living life to the full. Life's too short to worry. You've got to enjoy yourself."
Thompson signed for Celtic in 2000 for £2.75million, after stints at English club. He left in 2007 for Leeds United but returned to Glasgow last June.
The Celtic coach, who has been seen as a loyal and trusted lieutenant to boss Neil Lennon during the club's stormy season, declined to comment yesterday.
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I'm divorcing him but I'm not divorcing 'my Alan'. He was a lovely, good, sound man. I'm divorcing another man altogether.
This is exactly how I feel - not the divorcing part (yet) but the "my H" part. People think I'm a bit looney when I distinguish between the two. My counselor in particular wanted to make sure i knew they were the same man, and the best I could say was "yes and no". People ask me what if I get this guy back and am unhappy. I just really don't think this guy is coming back. My H might, but not this guy, so I don't have to worry about it too much, I figure.
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The MLCers are unrecognisably different though. My H behaves in a way he didn't behave to anyone (not just me!) for the 15 years before the MLC started to take serious hold. He is rude when he was always a gentleman. He is thoughtless when people used to comment on how thoughtful and analytical he was. He was a family man and now he rarely contacts his children outside of scheduled visiting times. I don't understand why people are so quick to believe that a person could have a permanent personality shift, but not accept that it might be temporary and resulting from a crisis?
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And the model:
My secret to looking good is smiling and living life to the full. Life's too short to worry. You've got to enjoy yourself."
I wonder if she would say that if she had three small children and a WAS?
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And the model:
My secret to looking good is smiling and living life to the full. Life's too short to worry. You've got to enjoy yourself."
She also feels life is to short to worry. Well she has stolen someones H to live the good life. What goes round comes round. IMO if she smiles to much she will have lots of wrinkles lol.
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The model is a skank.
Just sayin.
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Just saw this article and video. I'm actually surprised that MLC is mentioned in such a way that it's not really made fun of but rather mentioned as an everyday thing. That's just my take and others may see the article differently.
For the record, I think Emma Stone is hot and I'm 40. Am I in MLC?
OP - I wanted this to be a discussion topic, but couldn't figure out how to format it. Can you change it for me and let me know how for next time? Thanks!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44276585/ns/health-mens_health/t/jim-carrey-having-midlife-crisis-or-he-just-creepy/
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OP - I wanted this to be a discussion topic, but couldn't figure out how to format it. Can you change it for me and let me know how for next time? Thanks!
Looks like SL changed it for you but there is a message icon underneath the subject icon, either one can be changed for any post.
Try clicking it and you will see a drop down menu.
P.S.
We do have a thread on celebrity MLC's which I may merge this with later
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For the record, I think Emma Stone is hot and I'm 40. Am I in MLC?
FTR I just had to look at Emma Stone's pictures but I must be too old,
She IMHO is affair down when compared to Jenny McCarthy.
How he could cheat on her is unbelievable to me.
So, yes, Jim Carrey has been having a MLC for a while now, no question about it.
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Ok.
Just to set the record straight....(if that is possible for Hollywood romances) -
Emma Stone isn't having a relationship with Jim Carrey. At least not openly. Jim Carrey just made some asinine video - declaring his "love" for her. I would imagine that, except for the free publicity, she may be embarrassed by his silly antics. He is a joke, and not a funny one - at the moment.
MLC? Could be. If you know anything about his childhood - it was pretty bad. Grew up in total poverty. He and his parents lived on the outskirts of some production plant....Jim Carrey would work all night long (graveyard shift) and then go to school the next day. Probably grew up with a complete lack of sleep.
He and Jenny McCarthy ended their relationship quite a while ago. Surprisingly enough( :o :o :o :o), he announced their break up on his website - with a really weird video. Not sure what or how McCarthy announced it on her side.
There is something about over the top comedians (like Carrey) - usually they are very dark, depressed, and totally screwed up inside. Richard Pryor, Lenny Bruce, and others come to mind......
I happen to like Emma Stone.......she sort of has the Lindsey Lohan looks - without all the negative baggage. This weird Jim Carrey story is the first "negative" thing that I have ever read about her......and she was/is just the "subject" of all the weirdness. I don't think that she has even publicly commented on Jim Carrey's embarrassing video. On her fan website.....it shows the video Jim Carrey made - with clips of Emma from her movies - making fun of him.
Just file Carrey in the same folder as Mel Gibson. Totally whacked.
Just my humble opinion.
Limitless
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Why Did Jim Carrey and Jenny McCarthy Break Up?
Apr 12, 2010 Author: YourCelebrityStuff | Filed under: Jenny McCarthy, Jim Carrey
It came as a shock last week when both Jim Carrey, 48, and Jenny McCarthy, 37, quietly and calmly announced the end of their 5-year relationship through their Twitter accounts. Their split was very unexpected and we’ve been wondering ever since what went wrong.
OK! magazine is reporting, “Jenny said it became very Jerry McGuire-esque, in the sense that she had this had this great guy, and he loved her kid, but they were no longer hitting their stride. She said when she and Jim worked, they worked — and when they stopped working, it was done, just like that.”
According to Jenny’s pal, she told Jim that the spark had gone out of their relationship.
“She just looked at him and was like, ‘You love me like a family member that’s never going anywhere, not like a woman who you can’t wait to make love to,’ ” recounts the source, adding that Jim “just stared at her” for a minute, before admitting that was in love with Jenny and her son Evan as a package, but that he “couldn’t get his mind right, he wanted to, but somewhere along the way, he lost it.”
Supposedly, the two will continue to stay committed to each other’s children: Jim sees Jenny’s son Evan every day and even though they are “totally and 100 percent over romantically,” the source says they’ll be friends forever.
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Jim Carrey and Jenny McCarthy Split
Apr 7, 2010 Author: YourCelebrityStuff | Filed under: Jenny McCarthy, Jim Carrey
After five years of dating, Jim Carrey, 48, and Jenny McCarthy, 37, have parted ways. The announcement of their split comes as a surprise.
Carrey posted on his Twitter page, “Jenny and I have just ended our 5yr relationship. I’m grateful 4 the many blessings we’ve shared and I wish her the very best! S’okay! ?;^>.”
“I’m so grateful for the years Jim and I shared together,” McCarthy said in a statement. “I will continue to be in his daughter’s life and will always keep Jim as a leading man in my heart.”
Although Jim and Jenny were not married, each had walked down the aisle in the past. McCarthy divorced director John Asher, the father of her 7-year-old son, Evan, in 2005 after nearly six years of marriage. Carrey has been married twice: to Melissa Womer, with whom he split in 1995, and Lauren Holly, whom he split from in 1997.
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Jim Carrey Is A Grandpa!
Mar 1, 2010 Author: YourCelebrityStuff | Filed under: Jim Carrey
His girlfriend might have a young son, but Jim Carrey, 47, is now a proud grandpa!
Early Friday morning, Carrey’s daughter, Jane, 22, gave birth to her first child, a boy, named Jackson Riley Santana, weighing 7 pounds and 11 ounces.
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Well maybe Jenny McCarthy was just part of his crisis.
I agree that he is whacked out!
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Now, now, let's get our nomenclature correct. He's filthy rich so he can't be "crazy" or "whacked out." He just has to be "eccentric." You can't be poor and be eccentric, so us regular joes will have to deal with being crazy. Middle-aged Eccentrics instead of Middle-aged Crazies?
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Not everything is MLC. It has to be a CHANGE in behavior pattern.
And I agree Emma Stone isn't an affair much less an affair down. She was just the victim of his rant. He may have some "creative genius" depression/whackiness going on. Don't think it's MLC. We did talk about celebrities elsewhere. Mel Gibson, possibly. Charlie Sheen, not MLC, usual self-indulgent behavior - just nuts.
I think it does a disservice to us by misusing MLC terminology - calling things MLC that aren't, throwing terminology around loosely. If we want the world to understand MLC, then we can't use it as an excuse for any whacky behavior.
Oh, and OP, it's not an affair down just because you think the other one is hotter. :)
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Oh, and OP, it's not an affair down just because you think the other one is hotter. :)
Where is my LIKE button. This did make me smile and LOL.
As promised I merged this thread into the one that we had going before.
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OK, if this is now "celebrities' MLC's" then I can add tennis star Chrissie Evert to this list -- this year the papers actually used the phrase "mid-life crisis" when describing how she quite suddenly (a few years ago, now) divorced her husband of many years and the father of her 3 sons to marry someone whose name I can't at all remember but who was generally regarded as not good.....
That imploded, but in the meantime her ex found someone else... she was actually saying in the interview that she lost it and that her H had been justified in re-marrying, and was even going to spend a holiday with her sons, her ex, and his new wife.
The tone of the article had her saying "I screwed up, I got what I deserved, I have to be happy for him" type thing. The article, if I remember correctly, did have her saying something about having gone nuts or the like.
She is now setting up a tennis academy and concentrating on getting a life....
so not a return story, but yet again an MLCer waking up and regretting it....
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OK, if this is now "celebrities' MLC's" then I can add tennis star Chrissie Evert to this list -- this year the papers actually used the phrase "mid-life crisis" when describing how she quite suddenly (a few years ago, now) divorced her husband of many years and the father of her 3 sons to marry someone whose name I can't at all remember but who was generally regarded as not good..... ..
She married Greg Norman, a golf star, but then that was the nasty break up after that.
More script. IMHO.
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I think it was absolute script, OP -- and the impression I got from that article was that she even recognised it as such, after waking up.
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The poor woman xxx
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html
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Well, if she is disfigured in her face, he is the one whose brain is disfigured.
I actually voted for him....and of course I did not know this at the time. I am quite glad now that he didn't win...he's had enough rewards that he does not deserve.
You know what gets me? In his imprisonment, he had many opportunities to leave, being the son of a high ranking officer. But he would not go...would not leave his fellow prisoners behind. Yet, that is the exact opposite of what he did to his wife. No loyalty at all to the one person whom he pledged to have it with and who should have mattered more than anyone (their kids included).
Makes me sick. Thank you for sharing this because I didn't know anything other than that he had been married previous to Cindy. I'm taking back the respect I had for him here and now.
Gross.
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Unfortunately, it is a story of non-reconciliation and probably a standing LBS. She was probably an emotional affair down but she had some things he has decided he likes--looks, money and connections... Some MLCers do well--that's what I have always felt about mine--she does give him a lot of things I never could, so I have reason to think he's never leave her. And then there's Newt, and John, and so many other politicians who feel nothing about leaving women who aren't helpful anymore...
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The Heinz heiress/McCain marriage is a sham. They do not live together, haven't for years. She lives in her various houses around the country while he lives in Washington. She only came out of "hiding" to help him campaign (as I'm sure there was something in it for her). Sad to say, but I think 1st wife is the winner, as she no longer has to ride that ride and she has free medical for life. He's a nutty old jerk and has something odd growing out of his face.
It's nice to be able to throw all my anger at my MLC'r at John McCain. Thanks for this thread! ;)
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Not completely certain about this, but I think McCain's wife is heiress to a beer distributor, Hensley. John Kerry's wife is the Heinz heiress.
I think McCain has had skin cancer removed from his face.
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Yes he did have skin cancer, Melanoma.
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Voted FOR waterboarding but was tortured in Vietnam.
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I never liked McCain, he's a warmonger. Then I found out about his leaving his first wife, before I was involved in MLC. Then I HATED him. I didn't realize that he and wife #2 didn't really live together. And yes, I think wife #1 is the winner here. Also, FYI, John Gray, author of Men Are from Mars, Women are from Venus dedicated that book to his 2nd wife. They are now divorced. So much for marital advice from him.
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Hmmm, I have a little different view on this.
I think it might be a bit simplistic to call what happened with McCain a MLC. I'm no fan of the man, although I think anyone who survived 5 years as a POW in Vietnam deserves respect.
The horror of what he'd been through as a POW had to have severely affected him mentally. It's difficult to say, I think, that he abandoned his first wife simply because he was having a MLC. I suspect it had a lot to do with finally realizing he had been given his life back and wanting, as his first wife said, to make up for lost time.
None of our MLCers have undergone anything close to what McCain endured. Again, I don't admire the guy but I can see how the experience of being a POW would warp his mind as to what his "duty" was and that he would have felt an overwhelming compulsion to live again.
His wife's accident may or may not have had an effect on what he did. He could have just as easily cheated on her if she was still the beauty she'd been when he left.
I think it's more the fact that McCain was ambitious, wanted money to fund his political aspirations, wanted to sample all the candy that he could, and found a woman who was willing to commit adultery with him.
This story was out there during the 2008 campaign, although not widely discussed. I remember the Washington Post did an article (or maybe it was Vanity Fair) somewhat similar to this one, although not as negative during the campaign. It covered the same facts, though.
The concensus of the articles I read then was that McCain's first wife kept silent because of the medical support McCain gives her. Obviously, she has had, and will continue to have, medical issues.
A sad story. I've also read that Cindy McCain has not been the greatest step-mom in the world and that she is, herself, the result of a mid-life affair and then marriage of her father to a younger woman. She has an older half-sibling who she has no relationship with whatsoever.
TMHP
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I seem to remember that the quote from McCain's first wife (who never bashes him, btw, yes, likely a stander) was that "it was more to do with John turning 40 and wanting to be 25".
So yes, MLC.... triggered by POW experience? Well, hard to imagine a more traumatic one.... and we all know that much lesser things can trigger it.
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I have absolutely no sympathy for this man. His POW experience was horrific no doubt, but so was the accident and traumatic surgery which his wife went through, whilst bringing up children alone. On his return he should have been so grateful to her for being there holding his family together through the bad times and waiting for him. His behaviour was despicable in my opinion, and she is left to feel grateful for the medical care she gets. Unbelievable, what a slime ball.
Thanks for posting this WGH ... makes my H seem really caring and even honourable!!
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My marriage ended because John McCain didn’t want to be 40, he wanted to be 25. You know that happens...it just does.’
She seems so blaze about the fact that it just happens...................I don't think I can be so cool about it!
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My marriage ended because John McCain didn’t want to be 40, he wanted to be 25. You know that happens...it just does.’
She seems so blaze about the fact that it just happens...................I don't think I can be so cool about it!
This was 31 years ago!
I hope I have figured this out by that length of time.
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Apparently it's going around- Even our galaxy is having a MLC!
http://news.yahoo.com/why-milky-way-may-facing-midlife-crisis-210401548.html
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:o :o :o :o :o
the milky way in a midlife crisis?...we're done! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Where not DONE... we just need to except the process ;)
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Lol, gives a whole new perspective to just HOW LONG it can take, doesn't it? ;)
Hey, this is my 1000th post- Yay! :D
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Lol, gives a whole new perspective to just HOW LONG it can take, doesn't it? ;)
Hey, this is my 1000th post- Yay! :D
I would have figured that for your 1000th post it would have been something a little more special??
Then again... depends on how you look at it... if your 1st post was number 1 and then all the posts in between was that actually your 1000th or the 999th? Maybe the next one is the big one? I am expecting big things out of it... something with candles..
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just how long it can takes... ahhhh...a few billion years?...can we wait that long?... ::) ::) ::)
ziggee, a 1000th post in a thread of milky way midlife crisis is SPECIAL! ;D ;D ;D
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Is the entire galaxy big enough for you Z? ;)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/SparklerGirl/milky_way-1907.jpg)
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The problem is that is only Andromeda galaxy... now if the universe was in MLC
Congratulations on your 1000th post... looking forward to the next 1000 or not... hoping it does not take 1000 more...
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How did I not know about this, lol? Nice find Warrior!
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How did I not know about this, lol? Nice find Warrior!
Where have you been? Under a rock? ;) You have been googling how long it would take to bike to the Aurora Borealis haven't you? You could always find a donkey... why walk when you can ride... Haaaa
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How did I not know about this, lol? Nice find Warrior!
Where have you been? Under a rock? ;) You have been googling how long it would take to bike to the Aurora Borealis haven't you? You could always find a donkey... why walk when you can ride... Haaaa
I started walking over there for a couple of hours and then I just got tired and walked back. LOL! Like a child who ran away from home. ;D
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I started walking over there for a couple of hours and then I just got tired and walked back. LOL! Like a child who ran away from home. ;D
You didn't get passed the end of your street did you? Then you got hungry? Tell me you took your camera and at least took some pictures?
Z.
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I started walking over there for a couple of hours and then I just got tired and walked back. LOL! Like a child who ran away from home. ;D
You didn't get passed the end of your street did you? Then you got hungry? Tell me you took your camera and at least took some pictures?
Z.
Actually, I cooked today ( and yesterday ~ I'm on a roll ) :D and I washed allllll of the dished pots and pans and spent some time with the familia! Tomorrow... I will start heading North! It is my destiny. :)
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I started walking over there for a couple of hours and then I just got tired and walked back. LOL! Like a child who ran away from home. ;D
You didn't get passed the end of your street did you? Then you got hungry? Tell me you took your camera and at least took some pictures?
Z.
Actually, I cooked today ( and yesterday ~ I'm on a roll ) :D and I washed allllll of the dished pots and pans and spent some time with the familia! Tomorrow... I will start heading North! It is my destiny. :)
Did you know there is a recipe thread!?!??! Did you know that? I can't believe no one ever told me!?!? What did you make?
On your way north... stop by... say hello... the kids wont even notice there is an extra plate... they never do... seems to always be some kind of stranger at the table here... I can hook you up with a dog sled team in town... ;)
Z.
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I started walking over there for a couple of hours and then I just got tired and walked back. LOL! Like a child who ran away from home. ;D
You didn't get passed the end of your street did you? Then you got hungry? Tell me you took your camera and at least took some pictures?
Z.
Actually, I cooked today ( and yesterday ~ I'm on a roll ) :D and I washed allllll of the dished pots and pans and spent some time with the familia! Tomorrow... I will start heading North! It is my destiny. :)
Did you know there is a recipe thread!?!??! Did you know that? I can't believe no one ever told me!?!? What did you make?
On your way north... stop by... say hello... the kids wont even notice there is an extra plate... they never do... seems to always be some kind of stranger at the table here... I can hook you up with a dog sled team in town... ;)
Z.
I made Caramel Apple Pork Chops (http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/caramel-apple-pork-chops/detail.aspx) yesterday and this (http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/bottom-round-roast-with-onion-gravy/detail.aspx) today! My father loved dinner yesterday but today, I don't know... he didn't come for seconds, lol. I would also like to see Niagara Falls while on my way there to see the lights. I need a passport, though.
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I made Caramel Apple Pork Chops (http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/caramel-apple-pork-chops/detail.aspx) yesterday and this (http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/bottom-round-roast-with-onion-gravy/detail.aspx) today! My father loved dinner yesterday but today, I don't know... he didn't come for seconds, lol. I would also like to see Niagara Falls while on my way there to see the lights. I need a passport, though.
Oh dont say my apple pork chops didnt inspire you a little... that said... onion gravy... that sounds awesome!!! Get your passport... who knows... its good for what 5 years... it's a trip in the right direction... ;)
At least having a passport opens a whole new world of possibilities..
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I made Caramel Apple Pork Chops (http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/caramel-apple-pork-chops/detail.aspx) yesterday and this (http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/bottom-round-roast-with-onion-gravy/detail.aspx) today! My father loved dinner yesterday but today, I don't know... he didn't come for seconds, lol. I would also like to see Niagara Falls while on my way there to see the lights. I need a passport, though.
Oh dont say my apple pork chops didnt inspire you a little... that said... onion gravy... that sounds awesome!!! Get your passport... who knows... its good for what 5 years... it's a trip in the right direction... ;)
At least having a passport opens a whole new world of possibilities..
They did... That's why I made them. Everyone loved them. There is a problem with my birth certificate, I've been trying to get my passport for two years and I can't seem to get that problem fixed w/ my birth certificate.
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They did... That's why I made them. Everyone loved them. There is a problem with my birth certificate, I've been trying to get my passport for two years and I can't seem to get that problem fixed w/ my birth certificate.
Put your introvert in the closet... kick some butt get 'er done.. tell them you will print a new birth certificate that says what ever they want just as soon as you get home!!!
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I know. I know... I have to get that done. pronto.
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I apologize if this is a hi-jack but I went to read the story (very interesting) and while there I noticed a link to another (related? ;)) story beside it. The comments are good.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/kat-von-d-says-jesse-james-cheated-her-165841330.html
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Good link Wed2Him, thanks! I think I'm going to merge this into the thread on MLC in Celebrities/ in the News. I just saw it the other day...
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I only saw the story about JJ so if there was another relevant link, I couldn't see it...
That said, the story about JJ was enough to make me vomit. Blek.
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I think JJ is just a serial cheater. Nothing more.
Too bad. I think Sandra Bullock really got a raw deal on that one. She waited a long time to marry. Couldn't believe she married him - but figured that there must be something pretty "special" about him - something that was deep beyond his public persona. Obviously, not.
Good luck to the OW. Hope she enjoys what she got with that one.
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Star, I've made those Caramel Apple Pork Chops today. They were delicious! :)
I'm with limitless, JJ is a serial cheater, that's all.
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Star, I've made those Caramel Apple Pork Chops today. They were delicious! :)
Oh, that's great Annej! Thanks to Ziggee's cooking threads, I've been inspired to cook lately... and I never cook. :D
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:) I like to cook but I'm not always in the mood for more than a nice snack.
Gotta try some the recipes from the cooking thread.
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I love how there are so many cool talents and interests on the board... so much inspiration all around!
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I love how there are so many cool talents and interests on the board... so much inspiration all around!
You're so right, WP. There is so much talent and inspiration here. And we're all dealing with spouses in MLC, with our brains a litlle mushed from all the crisis mess. Can you imagine us free from this crisis thing? We would be even more amazing. :D
Our MLCers don't know waht they're missing! :P
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I saw this just as I was getting off the computer:
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/11/26/fox411-qa-fran-drescher-talks-mid-life-crises-relationship-with-gay-ex/?test=faces
Fran is pretty big right now, and what she describes is spot-on MLC. Interestingly she mentions how much guilt she had about abandoning and divorcing her ex, and that his coming out gay alleviated that guilt. Also, she mentions that when he let go of the anger and bad feelings they were able to rebuild what they had.
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she also says she has the best of all worlds, dating one man who "loves" her, but lets her date others....
not sure what I make of that.
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Ewwwww....
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/03/01/state/n050751S47.DTL
http://gma.yahoo.com/video/parenting-26594265/18-year-old-moves-in-with-teacher-28477677.html
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UGGH WP . . . MLC. That man is an idiot! The poor girls mother. His kids and the embarassment. Not good all around.
I wish there were a cure for this ridiculousness.
Sassy
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The reaction to the teacher story from the news people is pure disgust. The @$$hole teacher even says that he is "looking forward to starting a new family" after leaving his W and 3 kids. Please tell me that this isn't starting to get accepted!!! What kind of pure loser would disgrace his family in national TV and proclaim his "love" for a student and child? How many of our MLCers will watch that and say "you go, boy!!." Completely and utterly disgusting.
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WP, oh my, terrible.
If you watch the video and perhaps you saw this too?, the girl (yes, the girl) looks away, doesn't smile as much as the older man. She has as many negative facial expressions as positive ones.
So what are they going to live on since he quit his job - love? Do you think that you're gonna get a teaching job again? I don't think so. Google your name, man, and see what any future employer will see when they try to find out more about you. Hooker as a last name is also very unfortunate.
Wake up little girl, wake up. In this case, run back home.
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I am really sickened by this....really...I saw it yesterday and couldn't even post it. There should be consequences t this. I hate that they even got airtime for this...really
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And to think i watched this woman on a day time tv show.......called Loose Woman how apt the name is lol xxxx
http://www.contactmusic.com/news/andrea-mclean-heartbroken-at-demise-of-second-marriage_1285814
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WGH,
Finally, it seems like the infatuation wore off. Thank G. The realization that you really screwed up creeps into your mind, into your dreams (and nightmares), and you might realize how you want to be remembered by family, relatives and friends. Instead of regrets of the choices in the first part of life, they might figure out their own legacy and impact to the ones that claim they love.
And then you decide to become a better person and figure out how to deal with own problems and possible problems in your own marriage, your feelings. AND most importantly figure out ways to make amends with your OWN children moving forward.
If she doesn't figure it out, then she might be onto a third marriage. I know a guy who has been married SIX times - obviously he still hasn't figured it out. Serial cheater but still hasn't figure it out that he should be looking in the mirror.
Hopefully she and her first husband will get back together. That is, if her husband hasn't already moved on emotionally and doesn't have another woman in his own life or has remarried.
Boy, I think I have gotten some insight into my own sitch.
Hallejulah!
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Standing heres another interview by her.......in this she says: “I’ve always been choosy and never played the field but now here I am… a single mum with two children by two different husbands and two failed marriages behind me..................Isn't having an affair on your first husband playing the field :o :o :o :o hmmmmmmmm very delusional people xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/heartbroken-andrea-mclean-reveals-her-second-170020
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Just FYI, at my high school one of the male teachers (mid-30's, I think) married a 14-yr old student. I believe their relationship began when she was 13. Of course when her parents found out about the two of them they were livid, but she threatened that she would run off with him and in the future when they had children she wouldn't let them ever be a part of their lives. So, they reluctantly gave in and not only allowed them to marry but made this "romantic" outdoor wedding for them, you know the kind, horses, and riding off into the sunset together... PUKE!! Well they moved away after they got married and when they came back a few years later... get ready to :o... he got his job back at my high school. No, I'm not kidding. I wish I were. She got a job at the bank working alongside my mom, had a baby, and from some stuff she told my mom all was not well with the marriage. Shocker, right? Don't know how they're doing these days.
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http://news.yahoo.com/woman-discovers-her-husbands-other-wife-facebook-075500364.html
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1346853/French-prison-governor-fired-affair-21-year-old-female-inmate.html
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2115878/Millionaire-genius-Henry-Silverman-marries-yoga-instructor-40-just-days-divorce-settled.html
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I wanted to post this for all those LBSers that think o/w is better looking than them..........this mans wife is beautiful .......yet look at the o/w she as nothing on her.........proves the man and o/w have the issues not the LBS xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2077802/Gordon-Ramsay-ex-Sarah-Symonds-Being-mistress-left-suicidal-Christmas.html
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When I saw the first photo I was thinking Oh goodness please let this one be the mistress, not the wife! Whew! Thank heavens! Yes, the wife looks MUCH BETTER.
And, as usual, most of the comments below the article are especially fun to read.:))
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DAMN YOU GORDON RAMSAY!!!! Hahaha, I love that man, what the hell??!! Ugh, another one bites the dust!
The wife is indeed beautiful and classy, not this cheap looking skank with boobs and stomach hanging out...I mean really?? Good article, and glad she suggested first DON'T be the other woman and DON'T get involved with married men...though I thought that was just a common courtesy ::)
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I have two (2) questions????
How many bottles of wine did he spill?
Or....
How expensive is that carpet cleaner?
L
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Not being mean or anything, just making an observation - isn't it interesting how Karma is at work on Mr Ramsay's face ...............
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he's looking more and more like a Sharpei puppy every day.
Nature gives you the face you have at twenty. Life shapes the face you have at thirty. But at fifty you get the face you deserve.
-- Coco Chanel
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Hahaha nice one Kikki... I like it!! :) ;D
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Salacious stories of John Edwards's (would-be presidential candidate, now on trial for corruption) affair, complete with blackmail: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/04/24/edwards-staffer-andrew-young-offers-shocking-testimony-about-his-boss.html
When H was telling me how emotionally intelligent his OW is, how she told him that in the nearly 30 years since they broke up the first time, she's only ever truly loved him, it became crystal clear that H was as dumb as so many others out there, at least as dumb as John Edwards, it appears.
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Quote from Ramsay's mistress:
‘I take full responsibility for my past. But having affairs is like a drug – you’re always desperate for your next fix of the guy."
Totally disgusting, and just brings back triggers for my W calling lawyer boy almost 50 times in two weeks. Whether it's a PA or not, she's obsessed and I find it totally disgusting. $#$#%#@#&
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Is anyone else keeping up with the John Edwards trial?? His poor late wife, she suffered Hell from that man. :'( If this isn't MLC, which sadly produced a love-child, I don't know what is! And I think we all know what one is at this point in the game! ::) So sad, but the karma bus is running his as* over now isn't it?
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L2X,
Fully agree with your post. One reaps WHAT they sow, MORE than they sow, and LATER than they sow. (One of Dr. Charles Stanley's 30 life principles). When a man or woman is experiencing the high of the adultery, he/she has no worries about future consequences. But, that karma bus ALWAYS comes down their street and ALWAYS forces them to go for a ride.
Not sure I understand in the Edwards' sitch why Cate is defending her father's horrendous actions, actions that caused her Mom immense pain I am sure. I realize she only has her Dad left, but what he did was beyond cruel to the entire family. And yes, this is a classic case of MLC.
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I love it......i wouldn't do it not worth it ..........shes probably lost her job but she obviously thought it was worth it...........i bet hes not smiling now lol .........xxxxxxxx
http://jezebel.com/5906175/woman-dentist-gets-back-at-ex+boyfriend-by-pulling-out-all-his-teeth?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_facebook&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflo
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Think MLC hit the rich & famous again: “The world’s richest artist [Damien Hirst] , 47, has been left “devastated” after his 49 year-old fashion designer partner left him for a British mercenary commander, it was claimed.”
This MLC is becoming an epidemic…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/celebritynews/9322422/Damien-Hirst-devastated-after-breakdown-of-20-year-relationship-with-partner.html
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And... for a complete change of pace!!!!
The end of a 115 year relationship...
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/weird/shellshocked-tortoises-end-their-115-year-old-marriage/story-e6frev20-1226390612242
Wonder if its MLC???
:)
Z.
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And... for a complete change of pace!!!!
The end of a 115 year relationship...
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/weird/shellshocked-tortoises-end-their-115-year-old-marriage/story-e6frev20-1226390612242
Wonder if its MLC???
:)
Z.
He is the LBS, abandoned after all that time.
I know the feeling! :) :) :)
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She will probably try and say she was unhappy the last 110 years of the marriage.
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"It's like, all I could see was a shell of who she used to be."
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ah! an entire new real of debate, MLC in the animal realm... ::) ::) where is she going to run to? out of the zoo?...
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ah! an entire new real of debate, MLC in the animal realm... ::) ::) where is she going to run to? out of the zoo?...
Not necessary.. if there is a younger tortoise in the exhibit next door :) Even if the tortoise next door is a little slower....
Z.
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Even if the tortoise next door is a little slower....
AFFAIR DOWN!!
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Even if the tortoise next door is a little slower....
AFFAIR DOWN!!
;D ;D ;D ;D
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What a freaking disgrace these ow are..........ohhhhhhhh the swear words i could use for this one >:( >:( >:( >:( xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/rielle_hunter_calls_elizabeth_edwards_D4SPAtKhUPpMi5apm1PYuK
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WOW...I feel so sorry for that child. What a legacy. :(
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Just caught a clip of a movie called "The Captains" where William Shatner is interviewing other actors who played the ship captains in Star Trek.
He's speaking with Patrick Stewart (who played John Luc-Picard) who says that work was his life. Interview continues (may not be exact words):
William: Do you ever get lonely.
Patrick: Never, I really like my own company.
William: You've been divorced twice.
Patrick: (You could see the sadness come across his face and the pain in his eyes.) The failure of my two marriages are the greatest regrets of my life and they failed because of my actions. And there's nothing that I can do to rectify or change how I behaved. The guilt is finally gone but not the regret.
Interesting.
OMJ
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Watching the VH1 Top 100 of the 90's, and I was reminded of the Shania Twain/Mutt Lange split. He left Shania after 14 years for her best friend/assistant, and later Shania married the OW's exH. MLC anyone? Did a search to see if anyone else agreed, and found several blog links. This one was kind of funny: http://www.mamapop.com/2008/05/adultery-behind-twainlange-split.html
Strange things are afoot at the Circle K. Remember yesterday how I told you that Shania Twain and Mutt Lange were splitting up and according to Lange they had just grown apart? Well, it’s possible that that’s not the whole story.
People is reporting that several sources are claiming that the split is due to Lange’s infidelity. And The Other Woman is supposedly Marie Ann Thiébaud, who works as a secretary for the couple and manages their chateau in Switzerland.
God, that is so…tacky. And it just goes to show you that no man, no matter how wealthy and successful, and no matter how amazing his spouse, is immune to infantile and corny mid-life crisis behavior.
In other news, Lange is set to purchase a Ferrari and has an appointment to get his ear pierced later today.
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Gerard Depardieu the (former) French actor who decided to first become Belge and now, because it was faster, Russian. Putin offered him Russian citizenship. And why? Because French president has raised the taxes for those who made over a million euros a year. Depardieu has made his fortune out of the French state, French, like most European cinema is State subsidised. There is no French cinema without the money of French and European (the European Union puts money as well) taxpayers. For decades Depardieu made millions out of the ordinary Frenchman, now that France needs help he runs.
And he even turn up in public saying that Russian democracy is far better than French one. Last time I checked Russia was an Oligarchy, not a democracy, and Russian tycoons prefer to keep their money out of Russia. There’s gotta be a reason for it, I think…
This may be of little importance for non-Europeans but a let wing person has Depardieu, giving such a bad example, in a very trying time for Europe is terrible. Most people thought Depardieu attitude was low, lame and the one of a coward.
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NeNe Leakes from the Real Housewives of Atlanta and Celebrity Apprentice is remarrying her husband after being divorced a few years. In some of the articles I've read she alludes to him being involved in things she didn't condone and being threatened by her fame. Given their ages and the length of their prior marriage, I wouldn't rule this out as being MLC related, but either way, it's positive to read about reconciliation.
http://blogs.ajc.com/radio-tv-talk/2013/01/04/nene-leakes-engages-gregg-again-two-years-after-divorce/?icid=buzzlink
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Most of you guys can’t read Portuguese (Google translator will do if for you :)) but one of the heads of Portuguese government is, I think, having a MLC.
The State Minister left is wife in October 2011, by February 2012 he has living with a staff aide of the Prime-Minister. She is 17 years younger than he is, the minister is 51, the staff aide, 34. They have been dating for a year and are going to get married in March. http://www.vidas.xl.pt/a_ferver/detalhe/miguel_relvas_casa_se_com_marta_sousa_nova_atualizacao.html
No idea how much destruction the State Minister has caused to his former wife and to his daughter (D is 21 so he has been married for many years to his wife), but he is completely destroying the country, totally deaf to people’s needs, trailing ahead and having his way. MLC rose to the 1000th, since the man has the country’s (and also a word in European Union) destiny on his hands.
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I know we bring Johnny Depp's MLC up as a running gag around here, but how this particular article refers to his affair with OW Amber Heard dumping him over his "moods" makes it seem even more textbook. Poor Vanessa - I'm guessing she's got 2.5 years or so more of this until he's begging back?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10860426
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Here's another. A 41-year-old director busted up his marriage for a 22-year-old actress:
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/liberty-ross-rupert-sanders-divorce-she-couldnt-get-over-his-kristen-stewart-affair-2013261
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http://www.oprah.com/own-oprahs-next-chapter/Oprahs-Next-Chapter-David-Letterman
Caught this interview today with David Letterman on Oprah's Next Chapter. My dad had mentioned that it sounded MLC, and he was very right! Letterman claims he has no idea why he felt driven to have affairs with women who worked for him. Called himself a "weasel" at his lowest point when he was about to make his first public statement about the scandal on his show, and thought to himself, "maybe this will get me sympathy." Says he is still earning his wife's trust back, but they are experiencing a better relationship than they ever had. He also said he hit a big depression afterward (sounds like liminality). Made me feel good to see that he obviously felt remorse but felt it was worth facing the issues and dealing with the fallout.
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Always wonder how famous people, and their spouses, cope with MLC/infidelity. It is bad enough for us, add to it the whole world being aware and it makes the issue much more difficult to handle.
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Always wonder how famous people, and their spouses, cope with MLC/infidelity. It is bad enough for us, add to it the whole world being aware and it makes the issue much more difficult to handle.
I agree. Actually, their often-dignified and gracious handling of betrayal was a big inspiration to me. Once, during my lowest period, I gazed over at the tabloids that line our supermarket checkstands here in the US, at pictures of some of the most beautiful women in the world who've been cheated on by really dumb men: Halle Berry, Reese Witherspoon, Christie Brinkley, Elin Nordegrin, Sandra Bullock, Eva Longoria, Jennifer Aniston! And, I thought, well, if they can keep smiling and looking great, and not lose their minds as cameras follow them everywhere, well, then I may just be ok. If they can do it, I can do it. This happens to SO many women, (and men!!) and I am going to be ok.
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Chris huhne, uk minister, defo MLc and now he may prison fir his lying cheating ways. His ex wife is smiling more than she has ever done before. Look it up, it is classic MLc. Huhne lied and kept lying about some driving penalty points for years to the only person who knew damn well he was lying. Patience does force deception to reveal itself.
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This is not MLC. it is very, very sad and tragic. And it shows how someone can hide their real side. Also, it shows how little we really know about people, including famous one, and that everyone has a dark side.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/14/oscar-pistorius-murder-girlfriends-shooting - Oscar Pistorius to face murder charge over girlfriend's shooting
"Yet as the 26-year-old prepared to answer a murder charge and apply for bail at Pretoria magistrates court on Friday morning, a picture emerged of a man with a playboy lifestyle, an intense interest in guns and a taste for living dangerously, suggesting that the world did not know Pistorius as well as it thought."
And from here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/feb/14/oscar-pistorius-golden-boy-edge-steel - Oscar Pistorius: the golden boy with an edge of steel
"Beneath the glossy public facade there have been signs of a more complex side to one of the most famous athletes on Earth"
"Pistorius could be charm personified and was polite to a fault. But like most elite athletes, he also hated losing and was remorselessly driven to succeed."
"On the endless round of interviews that he undertook in the run-up to the London Games on behalf of sponsors and corporate backers that include Nike and BT, he remained engagingly upbeat and was frequently praised for shifting perceptions towards disability. But some who caught him on an off day also complained he could be arrogant and aloof."
This is so sad. Someone who should be an influence, ending up like this.
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My son loves the comedy of Jeff Dunham, a ventriloquist who has several very popular puppets and is very talented. Turns out he was having an affair with a member of his staff ( 25 or so years younger than he) and divorced his wife. He is now 51 and married the ow last October. In his last routine called Minding the Monsters, he alluded to being old, referred to his xwife as the wicked witch in the wizard of oz, said she took all his money and stated that he was a "middle aged idiot." Can you say MLC perhaps? He also had two daughters at the time. Such a waste......I have a hard time enjoying his comedy now. It used to be light and sometimes naughty, but not overly so. Now its dark, kind of mean and very sexual in nature.
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I just read on Yahoo that Michelle Obama said her 'getting bangs was her mid life crisis'. What a joke.If only it was so simple.No one ever takes it serious unless they are living in the midst of it.Certainly not a joke.
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I just read this myself. She said she couldn't get a sports car or allowed to bungee jump so the bangs was her "midlife" crisis. Give me a break!
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SF,
I have never felt the same about Woody Allen & he's a brilliant director. That was wrong in so many ways. All his comedy is tainted by his statement, 'we fell in love'...
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My emphasis, for the things that made me giggle the most. Remember, this was the guy that said he was hiking but really he was on another continent having an affair down.
Mark Sanford Asked Ex-Wife, Jenny, To Run His Congressional Campaign
www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/03/mark-sanford-jenny-sanford_n_2804059.html
When former South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford decided to run for South Carolina's vacant congressional seat, he tapped a familiar figure to head up his campaign: his ex-wife, Jenny.
As The Hill reported in January, Mark Sanford approached his former wife late last year to see if she would run for the seat left vacant by Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.), whom South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley appointed to fill Jim DeMint's Senate seat.
"I told her if she had an interest in doing this that I’m out, because there’d be nothing crazier than a husband and a wife running against each other,” Sanford said. “It’d be a circus."
However, that exchange wasn't the last that the estranged couple would have about the special election. As New York Magazine reports, Sanford turned again to his former wife to see if she would join his latest political effort shortly after she decided that she wouldn't pursue a candidacy of her own:
When he first ran for Congress in 1994, he installed Jenny as his campaign manager. He did this for reasons of economy—“You’re free,” he told her at the time—but she proved a natural at the job. She blossomed into a shrewd political strategist, running Mark’s subsequent campaigns and becoming his top adviser. Will Folks, a former Sanford press secretary, says, “There’s absolutely no way he would have ever won the congressional seat or been governor without her.”
According to Jenny, she had already told Mark she would be taking a pass on the race the day before, at the funeral of a mutual friend. So when Mark came to visit her, he arrived with a proposal. “Since you’re not running, I want to know if you’ll run my campaign,” he said. “We could put the team back together.”
Jenny told him, in so many words, that wasn’t going to happen. Mark made one last appeal.
“I could pay you this time,” he said.
The Sanfords ended their marriage in 2010, almost a year after the former governor admitted to an on-going affair with a woman in Argentina. Sanford is now engaged to the Argentinian woman, Maria Belen Chapur, whom he hints will not be a prominent figure on the campaign trail.
"She’s a very private person," he told The Hill. "We'll see."
In the New York profile, Sanford describes how his relationship with Jenny became more of a business arrangement than a romantic endeavor. He told the magazine that he relied on her political advice so much that he asked her for advice immediately before the press conference where he admitted his affair.
“Be honest and get it over with," she said, according to the former governor. "Whatever you do, don’t talk about your heart."
The special election for South Carolina's 1st congressional district is set for May 7. Sanford, who held the congressional seat prior to his turn in the statehouse, is considered the frontrunner in a crowded Republican field. Both parties will hold primaries for the House seat on March 19.
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A sad ending to an all-too familiar story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2293531/Gavin-Smith-murder-Missing-movie-executive-WAS-killed-say-police-Mercedes-garage-mistress-drug-dealing-husband.html
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Nice to see Danny Devito and Rhea Pearlman are back together after five months apart in a separation. Don't care if it is
mlc or not, glad it happened. More reconcilation stories are better than not. 40 years together. Sometimes, couples need a break?
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Hadn't heard that about Danny and Rhea but that makes me happy. I'm a fan of them both and always thought they were a wonderful couple. Good news to go to bed on, so thank you SIP!!
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Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore from Sonic Youth. In a recent Elle Magazine interview Kim talks about why she and Thurston broke after decades together (MLC is the reason).
http://www.elle.com/pop-culture/celebrities/kim-gordon-sonic-youth-profile?src=soc_fcbks
«When the subject of dating comes up, I’m not surprised to hear that younger men are vying for her attention, though the couple is not yet divorced.
"We have all these books, records, and art and are getting it all assessed; that’s what is taking so long," she says after ordering a glass of rosé. But both have moved on. Among her suitors are a restaurateur, an architect, and an actor. "It’s just weird," Gordon says of navigating new romance. "I can’t tell what’s normal." And Moore has regularly been seen with the same woman, fueling the rumor that his affair helped doom their marriage. "We seemed to have a normal relationship inside of a crazy world," Gordon says of her marriage. "And in fact, it ended in a kind of normal way—midlife crisis, starstruck woman."
Some years ago, a woman Gordon declines to name became a part of the Sonic Youth world, first as the girlfriend of an erstwhile band member and later as a partner on a literary project with Moore. Eventually, Gordon discovered a text message and confronted him about having an affair. They went to counseling, but he kept seeing the other woman. "We never got to the point where we could just get rid of her so I could decide what I wanted to do," Gordon says. "Thurston was carrying on this whole double life with her. He was really like a lost soul." Moore moved out. Gordon stayed home and listened to a lot of hip-hop. "Rap music is really good when you’re traumatized," she says.»
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Always thought MLC was involved somehow there! I loved Sonic Youth .... MLC has such a lot to answer for!
Anyone know how Johnny Depp is getting on? ::)
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Here is the puke-worthy latest on Johnny: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2316682/Amber-Heard-reflects-Johnny-Depp-romance-steps-solo-thigh-split-dress--buys-antique-looking-glass.html ::)
I'm going to include one story about this here because it kind of has a mid-life funk on it: http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/04/clint-eastwood-dina-marriage-over-spent-anniversary-apart/
I post this because I remember watching Clint's wife's show a few times, and even at the time it seemed like she was a high energy replayer! She was managing a boy band out of the blue as though she was a heavy hitter in the music biz, but she actually was a news anchor I guess at one point. ??? Will be interesting to see where this one goes. At least Clint can still talk to his Obama chair. ;D ;D ;D
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http://news.yahoo.com/pa-woman-disappeared-2002-found-fla-160655714.html
Left on a whim.. could be a mlc. Wow, has time ravaged the run away spouse in this instance.
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I just read on Yahoo that Michelle Obama said her 'getting bangs was her mid life crisis'. What a joke.If only it was so simple.No one ever takes it serious unless they are living in the midst of it.Certainly not a joke.
Now Obama has a MLC
http://www.inquisitr.com/639446/obama-wears-bangs-at-white-house-correspondents-dinner-video/
In divorce court, I didn't notice that my H's hair was different. I guess it's not MLC?
:o ??? ::) :P
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I must admit the Brenda Heist case sure sounds like MLC.
She walked away from her family and kids at age 43, now she is 54 and turning herself in.
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Was just reading more details on Brenda Heist on CNN - this could be very good for getting breakdowns like this in the mainstream. She's clearly an extreme case of Escape and Avoid, and though most people are saying from her looks that drugs MUST be involved, I'm not so sure. Stress, fear, and poor nutrition can do more damage than people think, in a short amount of time. Look at our MLCers! http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/01/us/pennsylvania-woman-reappears/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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If it is MLC it sure took a long time to run it's course....phew...11 years....quite a record
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Looks like this story took another turn, too: http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/04/us/pennsylvania-woman-reappears/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
Apparently she's not been so down-and-out as she's claimed.
Sounds more like a major personality disorder than an MLC phase, but she also had awareness along with it - so maybe she's just a jerk. ;)
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Yeah, I agree that it doesn't really sound MLCish, but there is definitely something wrong there. I don't blame her family one bit for not wanting to see her.
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I know I bring up Johnny Depp all the time, but really, could we have a better MLC mascot? People are really noticing how off he is, too. Had to share this article. The lead in from TMZ also made fun of Amber Heard being an affair down from Vanessa Paradis.
http://www.fishwrapper.com/post/2013/06/20/johnny-depp-the-lone-ranger-tonto-inspiration-native-americans-ridiculous/
Best quote: Oh, friends, don't you ever just look at Johnny Depp sometimes and go "What happened?"
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Not sure if we can have Johnny Depp in the category... He was always off. Now he is just more off and, most likely, in MLC. But he is such an odd guy that it is hard to know if it is MLC or simply him being more off.
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I'm always willing to talk about Johnny Depp. :)
Direct quote from JD: "F--- that! You're still warriors, man."
Playing Tonto? Wasn't he a sidekick? A Hollywood Indian? How is Tonto a 'warrior'?
Okay so he probably did it for the $$$ & yes Anne he has always been [deliberately?] on the fringe, but that is the worst justification...
I think he's in mlc because he was always that bohemian, young guy--a persona he continued for well beyond youth--who has suddenly realized he's not young & is quite bourgeois. Classic.
What lead-in from TMZ?
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He does not need money, Calamity... wait... he may, if he is having a MLC... his most be a very expensive one...
Tonto a warrior... right... ::) ::) ::)
yes Anne he has always been [deliberately?] on the fringe, but that is the worst justification...
Would say part deliberately, part because he was (is) off. Many actors are off and explore those traits to the max. Think he did that.
I think he's in mlc because he was always that bohemian, young guy--a persona he continued for well beyond youth--who has suddenly realized he's not young & is quite bourgeois. Classic.
He is not young anymore but he look ok for a 50 years old. Bourgeois... you mean multimillionaire, right? ??? ??? Do americans have bourgeois?... Thought that was a continental European thing...
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Johnny depp looks really silly in that picture, he's like a parody of himself now. He seemed quite cool when he got with Vanessa paradis and shunned Hollywood bs in favour of the rural French idyll. He used to have vaguely interesting stuff to say compared to most hollywood actors. he did some good films too, Now he just seems like the lame MLCer who drinks too much and has a really really young GF!
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Never disliked him but he was not a favourite of mine so maybe I don't see much of a difference in him... To me he was always off (not necessarily in a bad way). The one think his MLC proves is that it has nothing to do with how beautiful, rich, cool, fantastic, famous, etc., the LBS is or is not.
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Yeah he does not look comfortable in his skin does he? And definitely signs of age.
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Huma Abedin, a Stander: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/23/weiner-comments-on-new-sexually-charged-messages/?hpt=hp_t1
"I made the decision that it was worth staying in this marriage," she said. "That was a decision I made for me, for our son, and for our family."
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With politicians wives I'm always cynic. They have lots to loose if they divorce them. See Clinton.
Still, most politicians, once the affair is found have to resign so they suffer some consequences, at times heavy ones. Many of our MLCers can carry on without anything falling on their heads for a long time.
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Back to johnny .... http://www.express.co.uk/news/showbiz/412573/No-midlife-crisis-for-Johnny-Depp-at-50
This is exactly what my h used to say! More script!
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Um, yeah, Johnny!
Costa and McCrae Normative Aging Study (1980):
The Normative Aging Study (Costa and McCrae, 1980) conducted at the Boston VA Outpatient Clinic followed men from their early 20s throughout adulthood. The only ones who had a midlife crisis (i.e., depression, despair, anger, blame, escapism, risky behavior) were ones who were also depressed and anxious in their late teens to early 20s. Once a crisis-prone individual, always a crisis-prone individual, according to this study.
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Iante this is very interesting. This is my h!
Reading some pretty good mlc script from johnny depp, what a predictable fool. Kids are really fine with their parents split ... Oh really?
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I like this thread!
It was very interesting hearing the news about Mr Hollywood and the fact his wife had no idea it was coming.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/paul-hollywoods-wife-spotted-without-1898010?oo=0
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Yes she has sold her story to the daily mail hasn't she and has her own cookery book coming out! She's GALing!
Wonder if mr hollywoods romance with the American chef will last?
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TT,
I've gone right off Mr Hollywood....disappointed much!
Typical MLC >:(
I've read that Mrs H has filed already...there's no turning back for her.... :-\
Also his US version of The Bake off...has flopped...there's no plans for a second series.....
Oh and he treated himself to a very expensive flash sports car ;)
Silly Mr Hollywood ;D
Hugs xx
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I think their romance is over already...but no going back home for Mr Hollywood. His wife wants nothing to do with him.
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Panda,
Did it ever start.....or was it just a fantasy in his head??
Hugs xx
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Johnny Depp is going blind- I think that could trigger a lot of "stuff." Doesn´t excuse it, rather explains a trigger. You´d think he´d stick by the person who loves and knows him, but as we know, that is not the case.
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Poppy - yes it was, from what you read, a full blown affair...but it went wrong! And now their careers are in pieces.
Is he doing the G B Bake Off this year????
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Panda,
Oh my...went wrong indeed it did....!!! Silly man ::)
Yes I think so, I heard they were filming it now...not sure how true that is though.
Blimey...I wonder what Mary Berry will say.....Soggy Bottom??? Lol
Roflmao ;D
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Such a shame - really liked him on GBBO - you get a totally different impression of the man now. Mary Berry did describe him as having a 'typical mid-life crisis' lol.
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