Midlife Crisis: Support for Left Behind Spouses
Archives => Archived Topics => Topic started by: riverbirch on May 20, 2013, 01:39:39 PM
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Some of you have mentioned doing classes online.Can someone tell me what the website was?
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https://www.coursera.org/
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I think thats it.Thanks for the quick response.I have just finished two online classes.I miss them.
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Yes, it is Coursera. Just fund they have a course called Soul Beliefs: Causes and Consequences (it is to reopen, not sure when).
The is also edX https://www.edx.org/ - that has Harvard, MIT; Berkeley and The University of Texas. I've enrolled for a humanities course with them but the site and way of teaching is far more complicated than Coursera one.
Will keep the edX course just on watch. For now, at least...
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Thanks again
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After I finish my genetics course I thought this looked interesting as he describes a MLC in the first hour.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNnIGh9g6fA
Introduction to Human Behavioral Biology
StanfordUniversity
Warning it is at least 25 hours of you tube watching.
Anybody want to join me?
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I've enrolled but not sure if I will really do it. All this courses are similar to the Genetics one I took last year (University Of Maryland). Also Introduction to Human Behavioral Biology will be taught by Matt McGue and not Robert Sapolsky, the professor from the Youtube lectures. Kikki had talked about Robert Sapolsky a lot.
The course I'm really looking for and that I have enrolled long ago but still has not date to begin is Basic Behavioral Neurology, University of Pennsylvania.
For the record, I do not believe there is a gene responsible for MLC. There is never a single gene responsible for one condition and genes alone are often not enough.
And I do believe in free will. For me, the lack of free will that is talked about in neuroscience and biology relates to mechanics (the lapse of time that takes between our brain chooses to do an action and the actual action, like stretching our arm), not moral choices.
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That is so true Anjae - I am a huge Robert Sapolsky fan.
Frustratingly - nowhere that I have found does he explain what he believes the MLC to be - just that it's a very immature and out of character, out of control response.
Great that he mentions it - but what does he think it is remains a mystery.
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That is so true Anjae - I am a huge Robert Sapolsky fan.
Frustratingly - nowhere that I have found does he explain what he believes the MLC to be - just that it's a very immature and out of character, out of control response.
Great that he mentions it - but what does he think it is remains a mystery.
Well since my son goes to Stanford maybe I can find out more.
He is asking his roomate about him since he is a Biology grad student.
Have you watched this whole series of videos?
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Well since my son goes to Stanford maybe I can find out more.
He is asking his roomate about him since he is a Biology grad student.
That would be wonderful. Also to know why Robert Sapolsky thinks MLC is an out of control response.
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That would be fantastic OP. Please do let us know if you manage to glean any further information :)
I haven't watched them all, but have watched quite a few.
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OK bear with me if I post something you have already posted but this guy is a genius I think.
And I have only listen to the first lecture so far.
Robert Sapolsky discusses physiological effects of stress
http://news.stanford.edu/news/2007/march7/sapolskysr-030707.html
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Agree - an absolute genius.
No, haven't read that before, very interesting, thanks.
This is really good, on depression.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOAgplgTxfc
And we're not the only ones to think so. Here's another fan.
http://robertsapolskyrocks.weebly.com/hum-bio.html
If you click on the Hum-Bio link - all of those lectures are there, with a synopsis below, if you don't have time to watch them all.
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Agree - an absolute genius.
No, haven't read that before, very interesting, thanks.
This is really good, on depression.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOAgplgTxfc
And we're not the only ones to think so. Here's another fan.
http://robertsapolskyrocks.weebly.com/hum-bio.html
If you click on the Hum-Bio link - all of those lectures are there, with a synopsis below, if you don't have time to watch them all.
Thanks - I am going to make time
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I love this guy [Sapolsky]. The link won't work tho. I did find some lectures on youtube [some of the Hum-bio course & a few others].
PS. I remembered who Sapolsky is: Susan Anderson quotes him quite often. He worked with baboons & one of his discoveries was that baboons who fought for their positions in the hierarchy, underwent less stress than those who were defending. Anderson applies this to the lbs & recommends that the lbs fights to regain his/herself--I am oversimplifying but the idea of not wallowing & actively trying to escape victimhood was very important for my healing.
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That is so true Anjae - I am a huge Robert Sapolsky fan.
Frustratingly - nowhere that I have found does he explain what he believes the MLC to be - just that it's a very immature and out of character, out of control response.
Great that he mentions it - but what does he think it is remains a mystery.
I am still confused by your post.
So far I have not heard him say anything that I disagree with.
I have only watched the depression link and class intro #1 so far.
It is possible that he does not understand what WE think MLC is all about, he appears to be describing everything that we already know, with a much greater biological slant on it.(which I totally agree with).
Maybe we are just not agreeing on terms or definitions, IMHO.
He is teaching the behavioral biology course(#150) at Stanford at the end of the month, I am going to try to see if I can get my son to audit the class, or get permission to audit the online resources for the class, as California is too far to travel to get to class.I love this guy [Sapolsky]. The link won't work tho.
What link didnt work?
They all seem to work for me.
Although some may only be good in the United States.
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Yes OP the link probably only works from US. The behavioural biology course is available on itunes [free] & on youtube--if you don't want the credits.
On mlc, Sapolsky wrote the article about apes having mlc's so he is obviously aware.
There are some audio recordings available--I found 3 so I can listen while driving. :)
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Agree - an absolute genius.
No, haven't read that before, very interesting, thanks.
This is really good, on depression.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOAgplgTxfc
And we're not the only ones to think so. Here's another fan.
http://robertsapolskyrocks.weebly.com/hum-bio.html
If you click on the Hum-Bio link - all of those lectures are there, with a synopsis below, if you don't have time to watch them all.
Wow Kikki....thanks! The one on depression was great! Learning about Psychomotor Retardation was eye opening...explains why MLC (spec. H) having no energy to continue working, lethargic with his hobbies... very interesting!
Going to watch the others now.
SSG
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PS. I remembered who Sapolsky is: Susan Anderson quotes him quite often. He worked with baboons & one of his discoveries was that baboons who fought for their positions in the hierarchy, underwent less stress than those who were defending. Anderson applies this to the lbs & recommends that the lbs fights to regain his/herself--I am oversimplifying but the idea of not wallowing & actively trying to escape victimhood was very important for my healing.
That's really interesting Calamity. Makes sense.
I am still confused by your post.
So far I have not heard him say anything that I disagree with.
I have only watched the depression link and class intro #1 so far.
It is possible that he does not understand what WE think MLC is all about, he appears to be describing everything that we already know, with a much greater biological slant on it.(which I totally agree with).
Maybe we are just not agreeing on terms or definitions, IMHO.
It's quite a while since I listened to them - can't remember which one I was referencing. Will have another listen at some point and get back to you.
It wasn't that I disagreed with what he said, just that he didn't explain what he thought 'caused' MLC or what MLC actually was - when he referenced it as being a possibility. I thought that it was very positive that he used the term.
SGG - they are amazingly informative talks aren't they- he is compelling to listen to as well I thought
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After I finish my genetics course I thought this looked interesting as he describes a MLC in the first hour.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNnIGh9g6fA
Introduction to Human Behavioral Biology
StanfordUniversity
Warning it is at least 25 hours of you tube watching.
Anybody want to join me?
I got stuck on all the hours of this course and just watched lesson 15 today.( 1 hour and 42 mins)
It was on human sexual behavior 1, next up is lesson 2 on the same subject.
I still think this guy is a genius.
One think that I learned from today;s lesson(albeit is was recorded 5 years ag0) is that depression causes a lack of sexual desire.
Whether he believes in MLC or not I believe is irrelevant because the biology of it all is basically explained in a lot of these hours of this course, IMHO.
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That's the Sapolsky course. He's brilliant. I think he's a source for Susan Anderson when she explains the physiology of abandonment etc.
There's another video of him talking about depression--on youtube somewhere.
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If midlife crisis had rock stars, this guy would be the locker poster of the month in Tiger Beat (Psychology Today)? ;D ;D ;D Love him! 8)
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I still think this guy is a genius.
I don't know if he is a genius. But he is very good at explaining human biology easily and at engaging people.
Genius, to be, would have to be someone who has solved and/or discovered a certain issue, or issues, not just someone who is explaining human physiology and how it affects the brain.
One think that I learned from today;s lesson(albeit is was recorded 5 years ag0) is that depression causes a lack of sexual desire.
This one does not require Sapolsky. Anyone who has been depressed knows it. But MLCers tend to be more like bipolar people. They can have hyper sexuality during the manic phase.
Whether he believes in MLC or not I believe is irrelevant because the biology of it all is basically explained in a lot of these hours of this course, IMHO.
It is. As it is also in several other biology or neurobiology courses. The problem is none of those courses tell us how to solve the problem. Since MLC, at least for me, comes from biologic issues that impact the brain, it must have a solution. Yet, no one seems to be able to provide it.
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Okay I'm a fan of Sapolsky--not only because he makes incredibly complex matters understandable but, he's really funny.
Wikipedia: [yeah not a very academic reference but shorter...]
Sapolsky is currently the John A. and Cynthia Fry Gunn Professor at Stanford University, holding joint appointments in several departments, including Biological Sciences, Neurology & Neurological Sciences, and Neurosurgery.[9]
As a neuroendocrinologist, he has focused his research on issues of stress and neuronal degeneration, as well as on the possibilities of gene therapy strategies for protecting susceptible neurons from disease. Currently, he is working on gene transfer techniques to strengthen neurons against the disabling effects of glucocorticoids. Each year Sapolsky spends time in Kenya studying a population of wild baboons in order to identify the sources of stress in their environment, and the relationship between personality and patterns of stress-related disease in these animals. More specifically, Sapolsky studies the cortisol levels between the alpha male and female and the subordinates to determine stress level. An early but still relevant example of his studies of olive baboons is to be found in his 1990 Scientific American article, "Stress in the Wild".[10] He has also written about neurological impairment and the insanity defense within the American legal system.[11][12]
Sapolsky's work has been featured widely in the press, most notably in the National Geographic special Stress:Portrait of a Killer,[13] several articles in The New York Times,[14][15]Wired Magazine[16] and the Stanford University Magazine.[17] He has also written a number of popular science articles about his work (listed below).
Here's the depression lecture: http://www.openculture.com/2014/08/stanfords-robert-sapolsky-demystifies-depression.html
There are other on-line lectures if not courses on this website.
Also: http://www.robertsapolskyrocks.com/
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Hi all
Thought I'd throw this into the mix....
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/201792483/nurture-vs-nature-british-psychologist-oliver-james
"Oliver James is a British clinical psychologist, author and broadcaster. He is the author of several books including They F*** You Up, Affluenza, Contented Dementia, Love Bombing and Office Politics.
His latest book is called Not in your genes: the real reason children are like their parents.
In it he argues that when it comes to psychological traits, including mental illness, smartness or shyness, genes passed down have little or nothing to do with it."