Midlife Crisis: Support for Left Behind Spouses

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Title: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on December 29, 2010, 04:24:59 AM
Calling all us LBS in the UK

Hope Xmas was as good as it could be in the current circumstances
About a get together ....

So far the following are North West, Midlands and Yorkshire based and so to try an meet up can you let me know when the best date if for you to meet in Manchester as it seems the most central? Any other ideas welcome!

So far I have me -
1. Bewildered
2. Glimmer
3. With Gods Help
4. Watching & Waiting
5. Niff Naff
6. Just Asking
6. Hyper -G

I will start a British LBS get together separate thread as its hard to get people to see this one but for now dates as follows (let me know asap the ones you can make) for dinner in Manchester ?

January 21 or 28th
February 11 or 18th


B XXX
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Glimmer on December 29, 2010, 04:40:18 AM
Hi B

Just sent you a PM. Up to now any dates but Feb 11th. That's my birthday and want to spend the day with my girls.  Will see which turns out to be the best date for everyone else.

Something to look forward to.

XX
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on December 29, 2010, 05:21:12 AM
OK UK Ladies dates from the following;

January 21 or 28th
February 18th

B x

Glimmer and I can  make all of the 3 above can you?????????????????
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: journey to self on December 29, 2010, 06:18:38 AM
Hello everyone.   What a fantastic idea.   I can make all the dates you have suggested.   I live in Scotland, but happy to travel to Manchester (a place I have never been to).

Look forward to hearing from you with arrangements.

Many thanks.
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: justasking on December 29, 2010, 06:43:22 AM
I can make 28th Jan or Feb 18th.

xx
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on December 29, 2010, 07:02:52 AM
UK Ladies

Now choose from the following dates:
28th Jan or
18th February,
Please pm me if you wish your e-mail address so I can book restaurant and send maps etc
Will also look at sharing hotels or apartments for those that are travelling afar or what to have a drink and stay over etc

So FAR WE HAVE confirmed:
Bewildered
JustAsking
Niff Naff
Glimmer
Journey to Self

B XXX
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: journey to self on December 29, 2010, 11:23:13 AM
Hi Bewildered.  What does pm you mean.  I have only ever posted on the forum.  Is there another way I can contact you without posting on the forum.  Can do both dates you suggested, so happy to go with the majority.

Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: xyzcf on December 29, 2010, 11:26:10 AM
Journey to self..click on the member's name that you want to send a personal message to.. you'll see "send PM" that way it goes directly to him/her and others on the forum don't see it. It will also show their profile and whether or not they are presently on line. Good luck
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Voyager on December 29, 2010, 12:36:51 PM
Hi B
I'm in Yorkshire, could make either 28th or 18th, but will be coming from work so don't start without me!!!
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on December 29, 2010, 03:11:36 PM
OK we so far have the following:
So far I have me -
1. Bewildered
2. Glimmer
3. With Gods Help
4. Watching & Waiting
5. Niff Naff
6. Just Asking
6. Hyper -G
7. Voyager
8. Journey to Self
confirmed
XYZCF can you come along ??

The 28th January is looking the most favorable date so please put in the diary and PM me you private e-mail address (only if you want too) makes it less time consuming

love B xx xx
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: justasking on December 29, 2010, 03:14:19 PM
V

Can you bring your Viking hat and we can all sit around as a pow wow and polish it while we talk............. ::)

B

Thanks for organising this. It's really appreciated  ;)

xx
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on December 29, 2010, 03:33:14 PM
 ;D you are welcome - think it will be fun!!
B xxxx
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: xyzcf on December 29, 2010, 04:00:13 PM
OMG, I've actually been thinking about it...give me some "space" to think it through..I would so love to meet all of you!!!!!! But, I'm trying to get a dog right now and not sure I'd want to leave her so soon......if it was a small dog I could take her with me but I NEED to get my arms around the hairy chest of a Labrador retriever
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on December 29, 2010, 04:15:45 PM
Xyzcf

no problem just let me know .... if you find a dog sitter - remind me where you live?
B x
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on December 31, 2010, 02:33:37 AM
HI ALL OF YOU

DATE is set for the 28th January so please confirm by pm BY the 7th January if you want to come and let me have your private e-mail so I can then organise as it is easier than seperate pm's.

thanks

B X
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on January 04, 2011, 02:39:57 AM
FINAL  CALL FOR GET TOGETHER IN THE UK NORTH WEST
DATE: 28TH JANUARY
TIME 7PMISH
MORE DETAILS BY THE 8TH JANUARY: IF YOU CONFIRM BY THE 7TH JANUARY IF YOU ARE ATTENDING AND SEND ME A PM WITH YOUR PRIVATE E-MAIL ADDRESS

B XXXXX
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on January 09, 2011, 11:05:53 AM
Hey

Just the final update if anyone still wants to attend the 28th Weekend. We have approx 10 of us attending and I think it will not only be fun but I believe it will also help us on our journey ..

The forum is absolutely a life saver as it allows for expression of grief and gives us somewhere to 'cry, shout and share our worries' plus find support and advice BUT the chance to make good friends that have and are going through what we are will be invaluable in helping us in our journey -to move us forward in a way that Will be amazing - very rarely do we have the opportunity to make new friends based on shared pain, and it really is cathartic as well as really opening up new dimensions of thinking - why because we do not have things in common or are connected by our job, sport - child's school etc but via a life changing on going physiological metamorphosis - so no one is judgemental or trying to impress > they are them and its going to be so lovely to be with people (in this case all Ladies NO LBS men it seems in the UK)  who want to genuinely help!!
So if you still want to come and can come - let me know ASAP

B xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: xyzcf on January 09, 2011, 11:15:52 AM
I totally agree with you..and look forward to meeting some of my USA fellow warriors and champions soon. It is incredible to be with another person going through this..when you look into each other's eyes you will see just how much you each get it and you will grow again from each other's caring, love and concern.

Look forward to a synopsis of your time together..perhaps we need to send Ready over on a plane to be the token male..he might also be able to take care of some "other" business as well! (Sorry  Ready, just a little humour, no hurt intended!)
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on January 09, 2011, 11:44:34 AM
XYZcf

S funny


Ready the Englis ladies would (not the LBS) adore you - American accent and everything  so ... are you Ready  to join in ?? !!!
Maybe we Need a transatlantic trip this year New York in September???
Anyone up for it ????????????????
Or London if the stateside ones fancy crossing the pond ??????????

happy to organise XX
B
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: xyzcf on January 09, 2011, 11:59:05 AM
NYC would be awesome!!!!!The only other thing that would be more awesome would be..well you know..my Beloved and I back together again. NYC was one of our favourite places in the world and we had made a "vow" to go there at least once a  year no matter where in the world we were living........

I always loved the scene in Sex and the City where Miranda meets her husband Steve on a bridge after he's had an affair and they get back together again........
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on January 09, 2011, 03:41:06 PM
i remember that scence too - but in real life she left her H for a Women ??
................. oh how he must have felt at least we have some hope don't we in this case no hope would be awful to deal with along with the pain of betrayal and hurt
so one for NY any other takers - ??

B xx
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: What Next on January 09, 2011, 03:53:30 PM
Bewildered,

I am only in Ireland but wouldn't have been available for Jan 28th, otherwise I would have loved to travel to Manchester.  I think it is a good, positive and healthy next step for the group.

I'd also be very interested in going to the US if that was to happen.  I have actually spent the last week wondering if I should suggest a conference/seminar to RCR & others for late this Summer.  I know these things take a bit of organising and maybe something more informal is easier but I was thinking a long the lines of getting guest speakers (like Jed Diamond & others) to attend and hopefully to raise the MLC profile.  I have been really frustrated with how little health professionals seem to know, such as my counsellor and GP.  They are supportive but not very well informed.

Anyway that might be a goal for 2012 but again I am happy to express my interest in meeting up in the UK or US at anytime this year to cement the incredible work being done 'underground'.

Best of luck on the 28th!
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: readytofixmyselffirst on January 09, 2011, 05:27:46 PM
Wow, I would love to come to the UK for any visit. Thanks, we should look at having our own conference. I suggest Las Vegas because the room rates are great, and they have lots of great places for us to conference. Just my input.
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on January 10, 2011, 02:22:30 AM
his angel

if your plans change let me know for the 28th as you say Ireland isnt far from Manchester!

Your conference sounds a good idea but the problem I think maybe how to make the awareness of MLC for those it affects as it seems the MLC'er can not be fixed -xcept through time?

Ready
sounds like your the man for the USA conference ?

B x
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: justasking on January 10, 2011, 02:35:54 AM
B

I think raising awareness of good practice with professionals such as health will give support both to the MLC er and the LBS through understanding. The understanding is what is lacking. Part of the raising awareness would be about the journey travelled and time and space being the key to a successful outcome, whatever that is.

xx
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on January 10, 2011, 03:33:08 AM
JA

yes see your point - awareness at a young age - would maybe alert a MLC person as to what is happening to them???
RCR and HB would it??
I do think it would help the LBS but all I know that identity crisis and depression - however much it s know doesn't seem to make a person understand its happening to them but would love a MLC pill to be developed that speed ed up this agonising process XX
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: justasking on January 10, 2011, 03:57:46 AM
B

The crisis is part of 'normal' transition but at the extremem end. Health professionals educate teenagers on puberty, sexual health, pregnacny and healthy adult. What we lack in this country anyway is the education about transition points i.e being a parent,menopause and midlfe.

But professionals in their own right need to have a more indepth overview of the MLC journey and the emotional turmoil it causes to them and their families. My GP asked if I could ask if my H could come home as I was so upset! Not helpful at the time. LBS and MLCers need information that is accurate and helpful also even if it is 'this will take time and patience will be needed by the bucket load'. MLC still has the 'mand buys sports car' slant to it and we know how it is much much more than that.

Information will never prevent it but allow people to understand it better.

xx
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: What Next on January 10, 2011, 04:34:44 AM
I agree with JA,

My blossoming understanding is that Male depression differs so much from Female depression that it has largely gone unacknowledged / unidentified and therefore unresponsive to intervention or traditional treatments.

I don't for one minute think we can cure MLC but do wonder if we can lessen the impact, such as transition rather than crisis, through early diagnose of depression or aggression (one and the same in men it seems).

I know I lived with a man prone to aggressive behaviour, I did not know enough about impact of family of origin, male depression or MLC to have dealt with my situation nor would it seem our family GP or counsellors whom we have both seen.  I am learning now and if it wasn't for this forum, it would be learning in a vaccum.

I believe in the school programs and would like to lobby my government on looking into this aspect of Male mental health, we lose an above average number of teenage boys and midlife men to suicide.  In recent years the later have tended to include murder/suicides - children being the main target.  I have to believe there are correltions to what we might all be experiencing, even if it is in the extreme.  Maybe I am wrong but I can't seem to get any traction on this discussion where I live.
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on January 10, 2011, 04:47:16 AM
JA

Yes you are right what I am trying to say is and its a Q. not me stating facts just a view is how can you educate the MLC' er (the one going thought this) to recognise that the ML transition is normal and that they are in a crisis? And need support???

as His Angel says we don't have enough support for male mental health issues and we lose tortured boys and men to suicide too much?

Even the Doctors and health professionals would not be able to help them ? Unless its spotted early - and how can this be done ? I think you both are right it needs early education and some form of adolescence support and a connection to ML?
 
From all of my learning in physiology - crisis become crisis because the person is unable to clearly work his/her way out of where the desperation and anxiety is and find the answers that will make him/her feel better
 - for example Erick Erickson defines; adolescence crisis as;

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(psychology) The critical period in emotional maturation and personality development, occurring usually during adolescence, which involves the reworking and abandonment of childhood identifications and the integration of new personal and social identifications.

in mid life Carl Jung & Jaques, Eliott say:
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As a major evolutionary stage in middle adulthood, the midlife crisis corresponds to a change, a transition, or an existential turning point that is not necessarily pathological and takes place somewhere between the ages of forty and fifty-five.

Based on a more or less deep questioning of oneself it may contribute to the possible emergence of psycho-pathological disturbances that in all probability stem from the personal history and constitution of each person (depressive reactions,  manic or hypomanic defenses,(short term craziness)  and psychotic outbursts). Somatic (relating to the way the body is reacting - in this sense to ageing) complaints may also often come to the fore.

From a psychopathological point of view, the midlife crisis has its roots in a complex interweaving of different biological, psychological, and social factors. Some Authors (among them Eliott Jaques and Daniel J. Levinson) have studied the factors that may contribute to the fragility of the mind; in particular reduced physical performance, the approach of menopause in women, andropause in men or a painful awareness of the time that has already passed.

From a psychodynamic point of view a role may be attributed to the reverse parental identification with the children, who are approximately going through adolescence when their parents are having their midlife crisis. These reverse identifications run an implicit risk of causing depressive moods by virtue of the fact that they are based on an existential impasse.

In relation to the midlife crisis it is worth referring to Carl Gustav Jung's already quite old writings, particularly the article titled The Stages of Life. Here he described individual characters that are organized around the introversion/extroversion dialectic and are centered by a process of individuation that leads the human being toward a possible crisis of identity.

The concept of crisis has lost some of its importance in modern psychopathological writing both in relation to adolescence and to this midlife period that is sometimes called maturescence and then considered to be a sort of second adolescence or a third phase in the separation-individuation process. Nowadays we tend to lay more stress on the processes of psychic mutation or transformation with reference to the concept of "catastrophic change" (by René Thom - in a nutshell that dealing with change good/bad can not happen without sometimes a crisis occurring as it is linked to the physical aspects of the body then the mind dealing with these issues that are affecting the body - MLC ageing etc but this can also be about illness, war injuries etc ) but without the harmful aspect that is often associated with the term crisis.
So in other words its not a Mid life crisis - to Rene its a Mid life catastrophic change happening to the MLC 'ers.

B xx

Bibliography

Jaques, Eliott. (1965). Death and the mid-life crisis. International Journal of Psycho-Analysis, 46, 502-514.

Jung, Carl Gustav. (1930). The stages of life. In Modern man in search of a soul. New York: Harvest Books.
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: What Next on January 10, 2011, 05:00:04 AM
B,

Thank you for posting that!  All the more reason I would love a Face-to-Face with this group.  So many of you have such insights either professionally or through your own experiences.  I exist in the Logistic world, not much room for emotional sharing there! But it does mean I work mainly with men and the change in my relationships with some of those men (for the better) has come about through my understanding of how men struggle emotionally.  Recently some of those men have shared their daily challenges with me and it definitely screams for change!

Good luck with the 28th and hopefully we can meet in 2011 at a later date.

X
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on January 10, 2011, 05:38:47 AM
His Angel

your right as my H has always suffered with expressing his emotions and hated me being friendly with men (i work mainly with men) whi I  I could help/support or visa versa and when he'd gone and I was sorting out his things putting themin drawers etc I found three books on 'emotional intelligence ' one mine from college days and the other he'd obviously purchased - so he was worried and wanted to sort himself out but even after reading these he didn't manage it!!
I know I cant help him I only pray he finds the strength to help himself XX

I could persuade the ladies on the 28th to come to Ireland say in April/May could you organise if we do and suggest before hand some ideas will pm you my private e-mail
Love B xxxxx
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: justasking on January 10, 2011, 06:09:49 AM
One of the biggest walls to overcome to reduce male suicide plus increase support for mental wellbeing in males is the lack of access to help by them. Males find going to see health care professionals intimidating and it portrays them as 'weak'.

In the UK holding information sessions was held in local pubs to try and reduce the stigma in asking for help. The lack of understanding by men is another brick wall.

Hopefully with more focus by subsequent government's on men's health the stigma will reduce. But we as mothers also have our role to play. A 5 year old boy shows emotion effectively. By the time they reach adulthood their ability to show emotion is restricted. Something happens in the intervening years that needs addressing. Maybe we as mothers have a bigger role to play then we give ourselves credit for. Maybe our sons are safer as we have travelled this journey. Here's hoping  ;)

xx
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: justasking on January 30, 2011, 03:57:25 AM
Hello All

I want to thank Bewildered for the Energy and planning she put into the this weekend when 10 of us met from the forum.

It was a truly wonderful weekend with lots of laughter, support and advice being given and received. Meeting posters 'in the flesh' was a privilege.

To be with a group of people who are not judgemental, nurturing and moving forward on their journey, whatever it is, gave me hope for my future with or without my H.

Without Bewildered who pulled all the planning together for such a smooth weekend, it may never have happened. It also looks likely we will meet in the future as friendships blossomed and established friendships strengthened.

THANK YOU BEWILDERED.

xx
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Voyager on January 30, 2011, 04:03:39 AM
Hi everyone,
Firstly a huge thank you to B for helping us have a wonderful and stress free time.

It was incredible to meet you all and share our stories and drinks and laughter too. Like JA I think and hope there will be some special and lasting friendships.
I'm really sorry I missed last night, but next time I'll be there to the end!

Much love to you all
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: justasking on January 30, 2011, 04:07:48 AM
V

We missed you last night as well. Next time we will ply you with copious amounts of wine to keep you stranded in your longboat lol

xx
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Voyager on January 30, 2011, 04:12:13 AM
Ha, there's worse ways to be abducted!!! I like the sound of that, plus any promise of the old R&P
 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Glimmer on January 30, 2011, 04:17:57 AM
Hi everyone

Just like to add my big thankyou for  a wonderful time at the weekend.  It was so good to actually put faces to the names. 

I hope we can all keep in touch and meet up again sometime soon.

Thanks again Bewildered for making it happen.

XXX
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on January 30, 2011, 05:27:17 AM
Update

Our weekend of getting to know each other is over  :'(and it was fun and supportive and I feel for me it will become a very important part of the journey I am on and hopefully for the rest of you  .. we all understand the complicated pain we feel and frustration, agony and hurt we are dealing with as do all on the forum but I believe that the combination of the forum and its ability to give us information and provide instant access to worries and questions has been for us all a saviour but now we can combine the 'virtual' with another dynamic the 'real'.

This weekend, in my view, we got to know a little better 9 other people who like us have been without notice really - into this awful place MLC but are all becoming stronger and more resilient and the lessons we are learning we could share and discuss at a level that I know has and will support us even more.

We got to know each other as people more than just  a 'virtual' image. This for me has added a dimension that I know will evolve into more emotional support when needed but even more important friendships that I can envisage lasting long after we have (whatever that may be) completed our individual journey's.

Thanks to:
Justasking
Stayed
Nif Naff
Moving Forward
Crazy Stuff
Voyager
Glimmer
Mermaid
Journey To Self  ... for being part of a fun, friendly and amazing weekend

We have so much in common but are also so different and our MLC er's are so individual .. yet we where able to find we can support each other in ways no one else could... and this is where we are lucky .. as others not finding this forum have to deal with MLC without the help and support we need to become stronger.

so thank you all for your understanding, kindness, love and affection and nice to find we all love to laugh!!!! as humour will be a weapon we will always need to get us through this hey???
love B
XXXXXXXXX

 PS next one being organised by Stayed for May so watch out for details  ..over to you Stayed .......... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on January 30, 2011, 05:29:36 AM
Glimmer

your post crossed mine .............yes lovely to meet you and next one is in May so if we don't find time to meet u before then see you in May but contact me anytime and Hope the shopping went well.

B xxx
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Voyager on January 30, 2011, 05:36:30 AM



YIPPPPEEE    Off to Stayed's  place, can't wait.  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on January 30, 2011, 06:04:09 AM
glad V your happy as you soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo deseve to be XXXXXXXXXXXXx ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: What Next on January 31, 2011, 09:10:50 AM
Girls

I am really sorry I didn't get to travel across to meet with you and to take part in what sounds like a very successful and enjoyable weekend!

Just to be sure I can make the next one in May (??) can I declare now that the only two weekends I can't travel are 6/9 and 13/16 May.

Hope to hear more from Stayed shortly!

Well done Bewildered for setting this in motion!
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: OldPilot on January 31, 2011, 09:17:11 AM
Great job ladies.
Can I say I am envious.
It would have been kind of far for me to come from NY
but I do think that it is great that you guys all got together and I DO think it will help all of you in moving forward!

:) :) :)
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on January 31, 2011, 09:27:37 AM
Angel

We are all sorry too you could not make the weekend - can always do with an Angel around!!
Le me have your private email address then I can add you to the list OK

Many thanks for giving us the dates you can make in May - I will see if I can ensure its one of these date for the next LBS conference (lets be strong) !!!
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Anymore of you out  there?????? that may want to be included ???

OP

thanks for your input - it was very cathartic as well as normalising the MLC world for me - making it seem so much more real as the stories we swapped between us made me see that my H MLC is not just a loopy man who's 'lost the plot', my main worry - but after so many discussions this weekend I feel that MLC is more real and he (mt H) is really in MLC and its something that is totally out of my control , for now but learnt that if he ever wants to make a new life between us it will take a lot of me to help him   and so now I have time to think this through - is this something that I can do or even do I want too ???
So yes very forward moving was the weekend as well as relaxing in a weird way?

Understanding the issues that others have faced (H coming back then leaving/broken men and the fixing needed/ etc) and the repercussions has been enlightening !


Love B XX




Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: xyzcf on January 31, 2011, 09:35:25 AM
I too would like to play!! Let me know the dates...since I'd be coming from Colorado, I'd want to spend a week or so (it's a bit far for the weekend?) and my preference would be to come the week before.

Anybody interested in joining me for some touring/sight seeing?

Exactly where are you going to be meeting?

Bewildered, I'll send you a PM with my email address ok?

Stayed and Voyager have a blast!
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: journey to self on January 31, 2011, 10:21:16 AM
Thank you so much Bewildered for arranging our LBS weekend.  I try to start my day thinking about everything I am grateful and thankful for and now I can add another thing to my list.  I am so grateful and thankful for meeting all you LBS last weekend and to know that you are now in my life.   You are all amazing women, with so much strength and courage and I am really looking forward to keeping in touch and to meeting up again soon.     Love and hugs to you all.
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on January 31, 2011, 01:34:59 PM
JTS

I appreciate your thanks and I really like you enjoyed the 'meeting up'. see you soon XX
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: sambriony on January 31, 2011, 02:03:20 PM
I am in Scotland but love to join you for your next session........so glad it all went really well.xx
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on January 31, 2011, 11:21:19 PM
HI Sam

let me via PM have your emial (private) and tel number and own name and i will ensure we sort this out !!
XXX
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Shantilly Lace on January 31, 2011, 11:30:08 PM
 :'( :'( :'( :'(
I am so far away and I am the only Aussie as well.

Next time please can I join in via Internet camera
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: justasking on February 01, 2011, 02:59:06 AM
Shantilly

Thats a really good idea. We can all gather round and chat to each other. Maybe we could do that in May. It would be lovely for you to take part and a lot of hotels have internet access.

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Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on February 02, 2011, 07:02:28 AM

UPDATE

Hi all - please let me have if your interested in the second LBS conference in Stayed home city - now will be in April as May is proving difficult for Stayed to host.

Please PM me with your home email, full name, tel number and where you live OK then I can send out a whats happening email with proposed dates
Need ASAP

JA is in charge of the IT for Shantily Lace joining in to the party!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
B XX
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: justasking on February 02, 2011, 07:31:53 AM
B

The gauntlet is down and the challenge on. Shantilly will be at the ball.........  ;)

xx
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on February 03, 2011, 01:44:28 AM
Expected nothing less from you JA ............

lets face it a challenge like this with what we are and you are personally - going through
is a walk in the park hey???  ;D ;D
x B
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on February 03, 2011, 02:35:55 AM
Ladies

Next meeting is in Europe April 8 - 10/11th Please let Stayed know by PM -  by next week if you can atttend to get the least expensive  hotel and travel prices !!

B xx
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: stayed on February 03, 2011, 06:57:43 AM
Hi there Bewilderer:

I feel so RUDE, I only just found this thread, or I would have sent my sincere thank you for a superbly organized weekend.  I adored meeting you all, found it relaxing, fun and amazingly uplifting and hopeful.  I can't wait to do it again....

WAIT.... right, we are doing it again April 8 -10, 2011.   ;D

Xyzcf... You could stay at my house for the entire week if you like.  We are booked to go home for arrival of ANOTHER GRANDCHILD...right after Easter weekend... that is why the date had to be changed from May to April. 

As Bewilderer said, meeting these ladies has been one of the loveliest experiences of my life.  Strong, resilient, LOVING... oh my gawd... so LOVING... women, was an amazing experience. 

Anybody interested please let us know... please enclose your personal email addresses if you trust us enough hehehe  8) and we will send you hotel information and a lose schedule of events. 

Once again Bewilderer, fantastic weekend.  Thank you so much for thinking of me...

hugs... Stayed
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: limitless on February 03, 2011, 08:15:25 AM
Ladies,
I am soooooo envious!  I wish that I could be there, too!
I will be with you all in spirit!

Hugs,

L
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on February 03, 2011, 10:19:56 AM
Stayed

Thanks for your kind words I too want to say how lovely it was to meet you and everyone else am still getting over the cold Moving Forward gave me .. can type just can't speak lost my voice!!
so looking forward to April and Niff Naff has confirmed she is coming too!!

love B
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: stayed on February 03, 2011, 10:30:00 AM
Oh wow, Niff Naff... she is really starting to move, isn't she.... FANTASTIC!  I couldn't be more pleased...

hugs...
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Mermaid on February 03, 2011, 11:47:58 AM
Just wanted to add my voice: Bewildered, thank you, thank you, thank you. You are so together, organised, confident; what an inspiration!

Apart from the opportunity to meet you all, this weekend helped me feel stronger, more independent; made me see that we can all survive despite what our Hs do, and reinforced the therapeutic value of laughter.

I'm thinking about April at Stayed's. Sounds good.
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Bewildered on February 03, 2011, 01:21:30 PM
Mermaid

Kind words as I dont always feel so 'together' and certainly not confident all the time - have just turned a corner recently - I think I have got to where RCR, Stayed and HB said we would get too
the knowling we will be ok with the new H or without him - what I do know is I wont be able to live ever with the man he is now? So its not in my hands its in the hands of  Fate, What is meant to be will be ......... but thanks you and I think you're coping as well as its a tough world your MLC is in ?

Love and ((((Hugs))) B xxxxx 
Title: Re: If you live in the UK - want to meet up?
Post by: Mermaid on February 03, 2011, 02:04:40 PM
I realise that we all have our public faces, the side we want to show, even to ourselves. Sometimes having a brave, optimistic face can hide things we need to deal with from people who can help.

But in general, there is some truth in the "fake it till you make it" idea. If we act happy and confident, we eventually become it. Dr Oz even talked about that today. I've also seen versions of that in other psychology books (with more complex explanations behind it), as well as examples on this forum.

I've even got a friend, a psychologist actually (but not a good face-reader), who thinks I'm always positive and upbeat (I always joke with her) and had no idea, until I told her, that I'd been having a hard time. But actually, every time I talk to her we make each other laugh so much that I'd rather be doing that than focussing on my misery.

So, Bewildered, you may not be always happy, and I know you've been through such a hard time, but the positive energy you show breeds more positive energy in people around you.
Title: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: Voyager on February 20, 2011, 09:18:07 AM
Hi everyone,
I've been talking to FollowingBliss and we've agreed that we will meet up for lunch in Leeds on Friday 18th March
FB suggested that we open it out so if any of the UK contingent want to join us that would be brilliant. :) :)

Or if you're really adventurous fly over. :) :)

 If anyone wants to return the following day there are loads of places to stay in Leeds. It's also got really good shopping etc.

If you want to pm me with your contact details etc, I'll book a table the end of the week when i've got an idea of numbers.

This will be the nearest I'll get to Luxembourg!!!
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 
Edited to change topic icon...wish I  could join you.
Title: Re: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: Mermaid on February 20, 2011, 11:55:25 AM
If there were a direct (cheap) flight to Leeds after my lessons in the morning, I would... but there isn't!!!

Have fun!
Title: Re: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: justasking on February 20, 2011, 12:13:30 PM
Oh V

Would have loved to come but I am visiting the Uni in Liverpool with my D. I will be thinking about you though  :)

xx
Title: Re: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: followingbliss on February 23, 2011, 10:19:16 AM
Just bumping this thread for any UK LBSs who may be interested

FB
Title: Re: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: Moving Forward on February 23, 2011, 01:45:46 PM
hello!!
I would love to hook up with anyone in the UK - my issue is that I am currently having to work fulltime. I met a few people over in warrington about a month ago and that was brilliant.

I am out the evning of the 18th so can't even suggest hopping voer for after work drinks!

If you fancy a little get together I live in East Yorkshire and would be happy to host a get together/sleep over at mine. I have my kids alternate weekends and the first weekend I have free is the weekend of the 25th March.

Let me know.......

P
xx
Title: Re: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: justasking on February 23, 2011, 01:58:42 PM
I am free on 25th March. Can't make 18th either which is a shame. Uni visiting again! Bit of a hobby of mine I think  ;D

Would be great to hook up again.

xx
Title: Re: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: Voyager on February 23, 2011, 02:08:01 PM
I could do 25th March, and isn't that part of England very much like Luxembourg, so i could pretend. :) :) :) :)
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Title: Re: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: justasking on February 23, 2011, 02:11:03 PM
Do I have to learn to speak foreign language? The Yorkshire dialect is hard enough lol  :o

Do they have a national costume in Luxembourg? Don't think I could wear leather shorts. Up for Viking helmet though  ;D

xx
Title: Re: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: Voyager on February 23, 2011, 02:24:05 PM
JA
There was a lot of Viking presence in E.Yorks, I'll bring my helmet and even let you wear it!! And i have also got a Viking finger puppet that my D made me for my Birthday (seriously i do, and yes i know that's really sad)

 I'll bring him along and if it rains we can all play Vikings. :) :) :)

I shall overlook your comments about the yorkshire dialect...this time. :o :o :o
xxxxxxx
Title: Re: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: justasking on February 23, 2011, 02:43:36 PM
Ooh I would love to play Vikings. Can we go and pillage around East Yorks?

Bring your finger puppet it will be a good discussion point when we go back for a cup of tea after our raids..........  ;)

xx
Title: Re: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: Voyager on February 23, 2011, 02:54:10 PM
I'll let you play Vikings but only if i get to win.
Plus you're not to make fun of my finger puppet he's very sensitive. my D is currently making him a little friend to play with, that would make an even more interesting discussion point.
Yes it's always nice to have a cup of tea and a bun after a good pillage, i can see this will be very exciting........
xxxxxxx
Title: Re: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: justasking on February 23, 2011, 02:56:31 PM
I'm already planning the route for pillaging.......... ;) and two finger puppets is pure heaven  :D

Alright then because it is your helmet you can win  :P

xx
Title: Re: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: trusting on February 23, 2011, 03:18:07 PM
Wish I could make it - Viking finger puppets, pillaging, and tea - sounds like a good time!!
Title: Re: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: followingbliss on February 23, 2011, 03:19:31 PM
OOOOOhh I can't do 25th  :'(  you lot do go ahead though sounds like great fun. Voyager  we can pm about meeting on 18th or some other time with just asking and moving forward  too ? We LBs's have plenty of time  ::)

will of course want a full account of the marauding and pillaging , hope puppet is hardy ;D

FB
Title: Re: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: What Next on February 23, 2011, 03:31:41 PM
Folks

I would love to meet for lunch on the 18th - thats my wedding anniversay!  Can't think of a better way to get through that day than with a bunch of people who won't be asking me ' are you ok?'. 

I'll keep watch here to see which date you settle for but I have no reason why I couldn't do the 25th either.

In the meantime I'll check flights from Dublin for both.

Would love to meet up with an LBS group, I couldn't make Luxembourg so this would be a great alternative.

X
Title: Re: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: limitless on February 23, 2011, 06:14:01 PM
HA,
Sorry you won't be in Lux.
I would have really enjoyed meeting you!
If my April trip goes well - I would definitely be up for a future trip.

Hugs,

L
Title: Re: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: Moving Forward on February 24, 2011, 03:03:46 AM
Okay,
So the weekend of the 25th March 2011 - my house here you all come!!!

I can cope with quite a few people as long as you don't mind sharing beds or sleeping on camp beds!!

Can anyone wishing to some along to the Yorkshire Weekend please PM me and I'll get organising!!

We could all bring along a bottle and something to eat and we can go from there. I have a nice kitchen table which is great for hearing confessions! Plus an indulgent dining room if we wanted to make the Saturday night a bit special!

I live in a lovely area so we can go for walks or just chill in front of the tv if you fancy it!

Money is tight for me at the momeet (MLCer lost his job in November 2010 and I'm covering the bases) so as long as we can call on a bit of caring & sharing us LBS's are so good at I feel sure we'll make some fun for ourselves!

((hugs))

P
xx
Title: Re: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: Bewildered on February 24, 2011, 05:29:52 AM
Va nd MF

I can do both dates .............


B xx
Title: Re: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: xyzcf on February 24, 2011, 07:14:23 AM
Sounds so lovely...you all enjoy and those who will be coming to Lux can catch us up!
Title: Re: Lunch in leeds UK???
Post by: followingbliss on February 24, 2011, 02:18:47 PM
Moving Forward I so........oooooo want to come too :) Can't do 25th but am going to PM you to see where in yorkshire you are to see if its possible for me to join you all on Saturday

FB
Title: 25th March 2011 - weekend in Yorkshire anyone??
Post by: Moving Forward on February 26, 2011, 09:15:36 AM
Hello there,
I hijacked Voyagers thread about meeting for lunch in Leeds....so I'm putting this request out there....do any lovely LBS's fancy a weekend of fun, laughter and soothing healing from the 25th March.

Destination is East Yorkshire and I can accomodate a fair few people for all or part of the weekend - my kitchen table is great for cups of tea and confessions!!

Let me know when you can if you fancy it and I'll get the ball rolling.

((hugs))

P
xx
Title: Re: 25th March 2011 - weekend in Yorkshire anyone??
Post by: justasking on February 26, 2011, 09:16:36 AM
Count me in  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)

xx
Title: Re: 25th March 2011 - weekend in Yorkshire anyone??
Post by: Moving Forward on March 16, 2011, 03:29:32 AM
Hello all,
The weekend of the 25th at mine in East Yorkshire is still on - I have a few people confirming attendance already - does anyone else wnat to come along????

Let me have your private e-mail addresses and I'll get the arrangements all confirmed up.

Wishing you a great lunch in leeds on Friday - sorry i can't be with you. Will be thinking of you all.

((hugs)) to everyone on this very mizzly foggy day

P
xx
Title: Re: 25th March 2011 - weekend in Yorkshire anyone??
Post by: Foxberry on March 16, 2011, 02:20:33 PM
Hi again,

I forgot to give you my email address if you would like to contact me in the future: forwarded via pm.

Love and hugs
Anne xxx
Title: Re: 25th March 2011 - weekend in Yorkshire anyone??
Post by: Herefornow on March 16, 2011, 05:24:37 PM
I'm from Whitby in North Yorkshire though doubt I can make it 9,000 miles for the weekend!!!

Enjoy. ;D