Author Topic: Discussion  MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5  (Read 7477 times)

Offline BailmorTopic starter

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 947
  • Gender: Male
After our church service this morning, we have been doing a series for our adult forum with Videos from Rob Bell.  This video really hit home, whether you are religious or not.  Look at it in terms of our MLCers.  And whether there is any reconciliation or not in your future.  Just made me think a little deeper today! 

https://youtu.be/2WC-70-Otk8

Previous thread:  http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=8340.0
« Last Edit: May 13, 2019, 05:51:15 AM by OldPilot »
If you are feeling down, know that God Has always had a wonderful plans for you.  Unfortunately, there are things that happen and forces that work to try and keep us from reaching what He has for us.  The good news is that there is healing at work.  God is always working in and through your life to try to get you to where He wants you.

Offline bvFTD

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 432
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2018, 08:12:57 PM »
Now, 2 of Mr. Johnny Depp's bodyguards are suing him for a dangerous and chaotic work environment, and failure to pay overtime. Recall, 3 sets of lawyers bailed on Mr. Depp last month. It's looking quite grim. I speculate he is in the moderate stage.

Offline trusting

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3114
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2018, 04:25:44 PM »
After our church service this morning, we have been doing a series for our adult forum with Videos from Rob Bell.  This video really hit home, whether you are religious or not.  Look at it in terms of our MLCers.  And whether there is any reconciliation or not in your future.  Just made me think a little deeper today! 

https://youtu.be/2WC-70-Otk8

Previous thread:  http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=8340.0

Bailmor, this resonated with me.  My MLCer I would say is at the end or exiting the tunnel.  He is more and more like himself every day.  Yet in some ways, he is still running and I think this is why.   Part of his FOO background is a family that doesn't deal with hard things or work through them, just sweep them under the rug and pretend they aren't there. I think he is not (yet) willing and able to acknowledge the mess.  Sad, really, having to live with that kind of baggage (and one would THINK regret).

Online xyzcf

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10233
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2018, 05:10:16 PM »
Thanks for sharing the video Balimor..I like the phrase "let God turn back the covers".

The shame, perhaps they feel it even greater than they need to (not that what they did wasn't shameful but if we are willing to forgive them, why can they not forgive themselves)...so they stay away, not even daring to say they are sorry...and every time they see us, it reminds them again of their shame.

And they think that they can forget, filling their lives with everything else but the reality of what they have given up, yet I do not think it ever satisfys them, but I also am not sure that all can face that shame and even try to make it right.
"Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see" Hebrews 11:1

"You enrich my life and are a source of joy and consolation to me. But if I lose you, I will not, I must not spend the rest of my life in unhappiness."

" The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it". Flannery O'Connor

https://www.midlifecrisismarriageadvocate.com/chapter-contents.html

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2018, 03:37:14 PM »
Has anyone else wondered if Kate Spade was a recent LBS?

I become enraged when people blame "mental illness" for her suicide when all signs seemed to point to just one thing: her bastard husband.

And I know *exactly* how she must have felt.

Offline Kintsugi

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 223
  • Gender: Female
  • Stronger than yesterday....
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2018, 04:48:43 PM »
I wondered about this too.  And I wondered if Anthony Bourdain had some MLC issues.  And also Tina Turner's son. 
When the Japanese mend broken objects, they aggrandize the damage by filling the cracks with gold.  They believe that when something’s suffered damage and has a history it becomes more beautiful ~ Barbara Bloom

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2018, 04:55:39 PM »
yup well Andy Spade is now backtracking on everything - that they "dined out as a family!" and "took vacations as a family!" Sorry, pal that is not how it works and we all know that you moved out 10 months beforehand.....

Offline Velika

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2899
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2018, 07:05:35 PM »
That was my first thought. Her creepy brother in law actually kept a stand up comedy engaegement.

I think any suicide should be investigated for emotional abuse.

Offline nah

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7106
  • Gender: Female
  • His mlc...too bad for him
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2018, 07:16:56 PM »
It’s the first thing that popped up in my mind when I read the story.
H-54
me-52
ow-30
married 1986
BD April 6 2013 day after family went out for sons birthday.
I packed his bags two days later...semi-vanisher
https://heneversaidaword.com

Online xyzcf

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10233
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2018, 08:08:56 PM »
What I read (and who knows what to believe) she had spent several years with mental health issues.
"Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see" Hebrews 11:1

"You enrich my life and are a source of joy and consolation to me. But if I lose you, I will not, I must not spend the rest of my life in unhappiness."

" The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it". Flannery O'Connor

https://www.midlifecrisismarriageadvocate.com/chapter-contents.html

Offline Velika

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2899
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2018, 08:22:31 PM »
What I read (and who knows what to believe) she had spent several years with mental health issues.

How many of us also heard we were “crazy.” My ex would have said the same thing, pretend to be loving  and caring widower.

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2018, 03:58:41 PM »
How many of us also heard we were “crazy.” My ex would have said the same thing, pretend to be loving  and caring widower.

Probably many of us, if not all. But our families would know it wasn't true. If Mr J would try to play the loving caring widower no one would believe him.Not would anyone believe him if he went around telling people I had mental issues.

Not everything is MLC related. Not every divorce/separation is MLC related. Some poeple do have mental health issues and take their own life.

Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2018, 04:32:27 PM »
Oh no doubt!! But I just think the timing just speaks for itself.....that, and both of their ages (If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, well...!)

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2018, 04:49:42 PM »
What I know of her story makes me believe she had issues and have had them for years. Just because a couple is a certain age and is separated it does not make it MLC.

What I recall is that she didn't want to seek help because it may damage her brand. Still, who knows.

But I don't think it is fair to be saying her husband was (or is) having a MLC because of what happened. It is rare, if not very rare, for a LBS to take their life. Not so rare for an MLCer.

It is also not rare for people with mental illness to not seek help.
Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2018, 05:26:36 PM »
Well I tried, and (obviously) failed. Took 43 of my prescription drug (Sertraline), and waited.

Yes, I'd had a depression script for 10 years, but it never changed and I'd never, ever thought about suicide until being an LBS.

Just sayin.....

Offline Thunder

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 21863
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2018, 05:37:44 PM »
Megogirl, suicide is never the answer.

If you ever feel like that again please call someone.
This will get better, even if you don't think that now.

PM me if you need to talk.
A quote from a recovered MLCer: 
"From my experience if my H had let me go a long time ago, and stop pressuring me, begging, and pleading and just let go I possibly would have experienced my awakening sooner than I did."

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2018, 05:58:10 PM »
Thank you, Thunder and I know....all of that.

I can't imagine being that low ever again, and although we all know the never-ending hell that is being an LBS, I'm keepin' on keepin' on.   

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2018, 06:10:59 PM »
Megogirl, I didn't say LBS don't think about suicide. I said they seldon take their lives, unlike MLCer that often do it (usually when Replay activities no longer work or when they hit rock bottom). For a brief moment, a few hours one night right after BD, I also thought about it.

Thinking and doing are different things.

You're one of those few who went further than just thinking. One of the few, not the only one.

But we don't know if there was MLC in this case nor can be pointing fingers to the husband. We don't know enough. Accusing someone without evidence is wrong.

I hope you're keeping taking good care of yourself and that your depression is being treated/keep on check.
Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Offline Thunder

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 21863
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2018, 06:22:26 PM »
megogirl,  I can't imagine ever feeling that low again either.

I never thought about seriously killing myself, I couldn't do that to my family, but there was a time I didn't care if I lived or died.
Maybe if I just stop eating...I can slowly fade away.   ::)

All over one man.  How dumb is that?
No one's worth feeling like that.  No one.
A quote from a recovered MLCer: 
"From my experience if my H had let me go a long time ago, and stop pressuring me, begging, and pleading and just let go I possibly would have experienced my awakening sooner than I did."

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2018, 06:32:42 PM »
All over one man.  How dumb is that?

I don't think it is all over one man. It is because of the whole thing, marriage, life plans, shared dreams, the shock, the pain, the depression that sets in etc.

If this thing was easy and had no consequences we wouldn't all be here. This stuff causes real damages and, sadly, many of us, if not all, at a point though about putting and end to it all.

For most of us it was a passing, short lived thought. For others it was a more. The though stuck, or may stull be there and a few tried.
Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Online Mortesbride

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2469
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2018, 02:16:49 AM »
Well if this wasn't a MLC disaster I don't know what is!

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/thai-bride-wins-battle-share-075115748.html
You know this is MLC when you have played emotional hot potato with a pair of crotch-less tights.

Online UrsaMajor

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 9101
  • Gender: Male
  • Live like they are never coming back
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2018, 02:50:59 AM »
I saw that too ... My first thought was that "Oh, THAT has to be a great R if he wants to keep it secret..."

Me - 56
xW - 49
Together 19 years - Married 17 at separation
S - 12
D - 8
2 Dogs (1 each)
BD#1 - August 2015
Atomic BD - 13 Dec 2015
House sold & separated - Mar 2016
Divorce final 30 August 2019

Survival Instructions for Newbies
Site Map
 
A "friend" will not "stand by you" no matter what you do. That is NOT a friend. That is an enabler. That is an accomplice.
A REAL friend will sit you down and tell you to your face to stop being a firetrucking idiot before you ruin your life and the lives of those around you.

Online Treasur

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8313
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2018, 03:39:17 AM »
A big story here in the UK http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5992637/Worcestershire-Tini-Owens-forced-stay-married-husband-Hugh-losing-Supreme-Court-case.html kicking off a lot of debate about 'no fault' divorce.

Listening to a piece on the radio about it, I realise that my PoV is different now...I find myself thinking that infidelity - and all the damage that goes with it - should carry some consequences in a divorce. That 'no fault' divorce focuses almost exclusively on the leaver's right to 'freedom' and not at all on the effects on the person who is left. That it takes two to get married, but somehow we only respect one person's wish to get divorced. Even wondered if I should have dug my heels in and made my xh wait by contesting his idiotic list of unreasonable behaviours...although, for me, I think not, I think it would have kept me stuck in limbo and mindf**kery even if it would have prevented ow having her wedding.

I suspect UK law is a bit of an a$$ and it will move to 'no fault' in time. I'd prefer a rule that says you can't get divorced without a financial agreement first. I might like a financial penalty of some sort for adultery actually, something that recognises the scale of life and family destruction on the one who is being divorced without getting a vote on it. Interesting to observe though how differently I see it now from how I would have seen it before.

T: 18  M: 12 (at BD) No kids.
H diagnosed with severe depression Oct 15. BD May 16. OW since April 16, maybe earlier. Silent vanisher mostly.
Divorced April 18. XH married ow 6 weeks later.
Healing and growing found here https://littleplotbythesea.wordpress.com

"Option A is not available so I need to kick the s**t out of Option B" Sheryl Sandberg

Offline 1trouble

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2052
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2018, 04:11:30 AM »
Actually this case makes he hopping mad TBH

What is not mentioned (At least in any articles I have read) is that you can divorce unilaterally in this country …..
because it happens ALL the time.....and that this whole case proves money talks

I was furious when I read the judge wouldn't accept the reasons given in this divorce as they were too flimsy ......when H managed to divorce me on the grounds that we didn't go to bed at the same time and I worked too much and both those reasons were  regurgitated and used to string out a couple of other reasons...like hurt feelings because of the above …..and making him feel depressed because of the above!!!
And he stated that this had only happened within a 6 month period.....

Originally H's solicitor wanted me to divorce H for adultery but I would not acknowledge the existence of the OW so I refused, I remember thinking at the time H would have to wait 2 years separation because I niavely thought he couldnt divorce me for unreasonable behaviour because 1) there hadnt been any and 2) he would have to prove it and he wouldnt say antyhing horrible about me.....
I didnt realise he could make a couple of pithy reasons up and not prove anything


When I enquired about contesting I was told it was going to cost at least £10,000.........

The ONLY difference in this case is the bloke has pots of money so can afford to contest it......
Otherwise judges never really scrutinise divorces.


You are right Treasur UK law is an ass and justice is only available for those with lots of money
"I can't go back to yesterday I was a different person then"..............Alice in Wonderland

you NEVER know how strong you are, until being strong is the ONLY choice you have"

Online Mortesbride

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2469
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2018, 04:42:04 AM »
Personally I see it as a good thing. I do not like the fact that one person decides they want to divorce and destroy the entire families life, over a handful of nonsense.

So the guy speaks loudly? So they have arguments over cardboard...SHE had an AFFAIR and he forgave her for that...but she is the victim?

I dunno. We never know the whole story...but personally unless abuse is happening...I think they did the right thing making her wait or whatever. People shouldn't get to just walk out on their marriage.

And Treasur I agree...if there is abuse, and affairs...and whatever else...all provable there should certainly be repercussions in the divorce proceedings. Those things destroy a person just as much as assault or being burgled...why shouldn't there be a consequence for that?
« Last Edit: July 26, 2018, 04:43:18 AM by Mortesbride »
You know this is MLC when you have played emotional hot potato with a pair of crotch-less tights.

Offline 1trouble

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2052
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2018, 04:48:13 AM »
Mortes
I agree I think its a good thing they are ridiculous reasons BUT that sort of judgement is only for the rich....

If the husband didn't have money the divorce would have been waved through
"I can't go back to yesterday I was a different person then"..............Alice in Wonderland

you NEVER know how strong you are, until being strong is the ONLY choice you have"

Online Mortesbride

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2469
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2018, 05:18:51 AM »
Probably. And exactly what is wrong with the divorce system IMO.
You know this is MLC when you have played emotional hot potato with a pair of crotch-less tights.

Offline Velika

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2899
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2018, 03:30:27 PM »
My experience has convinced me that equal marriage rights is important, but just as important is state recognition of marriage as a business contract with similar rules applied to businesses. I actually think more people would take marriage seriously if they saw it as a financial agreement!

In my mind, this means that a marriage is a business partnership. Both people's careers and their assets are like the company. So, if mom stays home to work but dad develops his career, his career is their shared "business." He cannot leave her and kick her off the board and simply replace her with someone new, at will. Likewise, if he decides to spend money outside of the business, he may be found to have "defrauded" the company.

I think love is beautiful and all people should approach romantic relationships with hope and an open heart. I'm all for spiritual connections and ceremonies. I also do not believe anyone should be forced to live with someone they don't want to. It is apparent that many of our spouse are seriously unwell mentally, and testimony of some wallower LBS and even returnees speak to this as well. No one has to live with someone they don't want to, even us. However, I think many of us would not be so very traumatized or devastated if this did not also involve financial betrayal and irresponsibility.

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2018, 05:39:10 PM »
The Thai story is more "silly white western dude syndrome" and "Thai woman who saw an opportunity for money". It may had been a MLC story or not.

"Even though his other wife knew of their relationship" are Americans allowed to legally have more than one wife?

If she is 68 and he is 80, she was 28 and he was 40 when they married. Could it be that, by then, he was having a MLC? Not certain here it is a MLC case. He doesn't seems a nice, caring person and sounds very irritable and snappy. Maybe she just had enough. Or realised she had made a mistake 40 years ago at 28.

What is not mentioned (At least in any articles I have read) is that you can divorce unilaterally in this country

Clearly, the lawyer speaking in the article sees things differently: "In my view, the law restricting the right to divorce is a fundamental infringement of the rights to private and family life. I would go further and say it is a form of indenture or slavery."

But you still need reasons to divorce in the UK: Adultery, Unreasonable behaviour (this can be pretty much everything and nothing and probably will depend of the judge), Desertion, Separation for more than 2 years with spouse agreement in writing, Separation for 5 years withou spouse agreement.
 
"Introducing 'no fault' divorces would go a long way in reducing conflict." - the lawyer has no idea what no fault divorce does to people when one of them commits adultery and can divorce their spouse like if it was nothing, as is the case here since late 2008.

My experience has convinced me that equal marriage rights is important, but just as important is state recognition of marriage as a business contract with similar rules applied to businesses. I actually think more people would take marriage seriously if they saw it as a financial agreement!

Marriage is a contract. At least here civil marriage is. That is why divorce is called dissolution of marriage = the end of the contract. Marriage pertains to civil law and has rules. I knew it was a contract, Mr J knew it was a contract and we have in fact got married for financial reasons, taxes.

There are big advantages here for marriage couples over just living together. It didn't change a thing when it comes to Mr J and his crisis. Nor when it comes to the court. By law he has to give me alimony, but a judge declared that he needs the money he makes to live a dignified life. Go figure.

If you find UK law bad, you should try Portuguese one. Our previous marriage law was good, but was seen by those in charge as old and blah, blah, blah. Since, things are a mess.
Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Offline The Moon’s a balloon

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 163
  • Gender: Male
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2018, 01:04:40 AM »
I thought in England, where adultery was cited in divorce proceedings, the OM/OW could get court costs awarded against them, for their role in the breakup.  Not sure if that’s still true or not. 

Anyway, back to the topic, does anyone else think that Ant McPartlin (of Ant and Dec fame here in the UK) might be having a MLC?  Sorry, if this has been mentioned already. 
“It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate,
I am the captain of my soul”.

Offline 1trouble

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2052
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2018, 01:36:15 AM »
Moon - sadly that isn't true about Adultery divorce laws in the UK...….it was a real eye opener for me when I went through this process

As for Ant McPartlin definitely

I also think Euan McGregor and Louise Rednapp and Richard Keys (some of these may not be known to those outside of the UK)
"I can't go back to yesterday I was a different person then"..............Alice in Wonderland

you NEVER know how strong you are, until being strong is the ONLY choice you have"

Offline The Moon’s a balloon

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 163
  • Gender: Male
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2018, 04:16:50 AM »
Thanks 1trouble.  Pity, still would want to get the OM cited in the paperwork, just to get down on the record that it was their infidelity / unreasonable behaviour that caused this breakdown. 

Louise Redknapp, yes I thought that.  The sudden increase in partying while Jamie wants to stay at home.  The new best friend leading her on, and now the excuse she ‘lost her indentity’.  I can’t recall if there was an OM involved but otherwise very MLC.  Not heard about Keys or McGregor. 
“It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate,
I am the captain of my soul”.

Online Treasur

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8313
  • Gender: Female
T: 18  M: 12 (at BD) No kids.
H diagnosed with severe depression Oct 15. BD May 16. OW since April 16, maybe earlier. Silent vanisher mostly.
Divorced April 18. XH married ow 6 weeks later.
Healing and growing found here https://littleplotbythesea.wordpress.com

"Option A is not available so I need to kick the s**t out of Option B" Sheryl Sandberg

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2018, 04:15:49 PM »
Article from People, from Andy Spade's brother David, provides some insight into why Andy was/is in MLC!

Growing up, Spade says he saw his father about two or three times a year.

“We’d be sitting at the doors with our bags because he would call us and say he wanted to see us,” says the actor. “What I didn’t realize back then was that it was a control thing. We never had his phone number. He would call us when he felt like it.”

Nevertheless, the actor says the duo maintained a relationship and even moved in together in Arizona at one point. But years later, when Spade became a father himself, everything changed.

“I have a daughter now, and she came out of a situation with a girl I was dating and it was not planned,” Spade says. “And I get angry, because my brothers and I were planned. Now, I’m so happy that I have a daughter and she’s the best thing in my life, but I couldn’t picture my daughter being sick and calling me and me not answering.”


Growing up, Spade says he saw his father about two or three times a year.

“We’d be sitting at the doors with our bags because he would call us and say he wanted to see us,” says the actor. “What I didn’t realize back then was that it was a control thing. We never had his phone number. He would call us when he felt like it.”

“I know it sounds crazy, but I just thought, ‘Holy s—. You really played your cards the way you did when we were kids,’ ” Spade continues. “I mean, I like to have fun too, but it can’t be 24/7 and literally nothing else. The only thing my dad really did was give me an excuse to be nuts. I can always cry and go, ‘It’s my dad’s fault. He left me when I was 4! Now I’m crazy.’ ”

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2018, 04:22:15 PM »
Ewan McGregor was always a cheater, constantly having affairs. He is like Ben Affleck. For some reason, this time McGregor decided to leave his wife.

Don't know Ant McPartlin, Louise Rednapp or Richard Keys.
Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Online Songanddance

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5592
  • Gender: Female
  • Strength and honour are her clothing;
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2018, 05:51:56 AM »
Quote
I suspect UK law is a bit of an a$$ and it will move to 'no fault' in time.

Speaking as a UKer - I hope the law doesn't ever move to no fault.  Re Tini Owens - she is living separately from her husband and should she continue to do so - after 5 years she can divorce him and he legally cannot contest it. He can make her life hell re financial demands however.   

She lives in a nice cottage separately with his consent and probably funds her lifetstyle from him too.

Her challenge lay in the fact that she tried to push through adultery, and then unreasonable behaviour.   How do we know how truthful she is?  The Daily Mail is almost the least offensive of the tabloid papers but it does love a scandal to create outrage.

I do wonder whether her desire to divorce is borne more from greed than unreasonable behaviour.

This particular grounds though in the UK is the stupidest part of divorce law. 

One of my colleagues who is a professional performer - her H clearly had MLC, OW etc...Whilst her children were growing up she taught during the daytime when they were at school and only ever performed professionally on rare occasions.  He (very wealthy in his own right) divorced her on the ground that he found her music distasteful (classical) and it was unreasonable for her to be a musician and imposing this upon him. Absolutely true.

The judge told her that she had to choose between music and a more "sensible" lifestyle.  It mattered little that her H acknowledged that he threw their daughter down the stairs in a fit of rage and that he had thrown stuff at my friend. The judge stated that it was probably brought on by the stress of my colleagues unreasonable behaviour!!

She divorced - got as much as she could from him and yes is still a professional musician - remarried and happy!




BD march 2013
Stay at home MLCer
OW for 3.5 years - finishing Autumn 2016
Reconnection started 2017 through 2018.
2019 is the year of Decisions!

Online Songanddance

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5592
  • Gender: Female
  • Strength and honour are her clothing;
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2018, 05:54:44 AM »
Quote
I thought in England, where adultery was cited in divorce proceedings, the OM/OW could get court costs awarded against them, for their role in the breakup.  Not sure if that’s still true or not. 


Nope - not true.  The divorce costs have to be met by or between the divorcing couple and the fact that there is an OP is irrelevant in cost terms.   This doesn't mean that the injured party cannot sue the OP in a civil case however.
BD march 2013
Stay at home MLCer
OW for 3.5 years - finishing Autumn 2016
Reconnection started 2017 through 2018.
2019 is the year of Decisions!

Offline Ready2Transform

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7716
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #37 on: July 28, 2018, 07:06:49 AM »
Quote
This doesn't mean that the injured party cannot sue the OP in a civil case however.

Oh, I love this!! If only we could do that here in the states. What a game changer that would be!

Personally though, I have no problems with no fault divorce. If people are cheating and abusing, contractually obligating someone to stay with you is not going to change that. I probably got one of the crappiest divorce deals around here, but I still wouldn't change it because there are women who are being abused far more than I was who right now need to protect themselves and their kids from horrific situations, and without having to risk their lives more in "proving" anything. Their freedom is more important than me tying the courts up trying to prove OW got a chicken dinner on my dime.
"Unconditional love is the highest of high standards, and while we are letting go of our need to control the process of anyone else, we are taking within our lives complete accountability for our own experience."

http://seriousvanity.com/how-to-cultivate-unconditional-love-and-change-the-world/

Offline Thunder

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 21863
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2018, 08:54:24 AM »
In some cases I do think No Fault is probably good, what I object to is, it makes divorcing so easy.  You don't need a rhyme or reason, you can just bale because you feel unhappy one day.  Well who hasn't felt unhappy at some time in their marriage?

If think if divorces weren't so easy maybe it would force some of these couple to actually try to work it out.

Maybe not MLCer's, but just normal married couples who are having problems and instead of getting help, they just file.  It's much easier than doing the work.

I also feel if there is an adulterous relationship going on, a person should be able to state that as a reason, let the alienator be named.  They were part of the reason the marriage broke up.

Just my 2 cents.   :)
A quote from a recovered MLCer: 
"From my experience if my H had let me go a long time ago, and stop pressuring me, begging, and pleading and just let go I possibly would have experienced my awakening sooner than I did."

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2018, 04:04:51 PM »
If people are cheating and abusing, contractually obligating someone to stay with you is not going to change that.

The divorce costs have to be met by or between the divorcing couple and the fact that there is an OP is irrelevant in cost terms.   This doesn't mean that the injured party cannot sue the OP in a civil case however.

Same in Portugal. But going to civil court here is madness, cases take years and the chance of getting anything worthy is almost non-existent. Great if one is wealthy. Otherwise, not so much.

I don't know how it is on the US, OK or elsewhere, but here it is far easier and faster to divorce mutually than with our weird court no-fault. Court means years, mutual means pretty fast. And cheap. For mutual no lawyer is necessary, there can be one, but not mandatory. For court lawyers are necessary.

If think if divorces weren't so easy maybe it would force some of these couple to actually try to work it out.

It wouldn't. Divorce was virtually a no thing here during the dictatorship, from 1928 to April 1974, and afterwards it was still rare for a while. Couples remained married but didn't work anything out. Mostly they lead separated lives. Like my aunt and uncle start to do at a point.

It is an illusion to think that if there was no divorce couples would sort things out. People sort things out if they want to/think it is worthy. The only difference is that, where before they would lead separate lives, keeping money and assets intact, now they divorce.   

I also feel if there is an adulterous relationship going on, a person should be able to state that as a reason, let the alienator be named.  They were part of the reason the marriage broke up.

Adultery can be stated as a reason and the alienator can be named here and usually is. No one can commit adultery alone. That is not the same as having the alienator sharing the costs. But are they really part of the reason the marriage broke up? Or it the married person the reason? Or the spouse who wants a divorce from the adulterer.

A marriage does not broke just because there was an affair. It will break because the adulterer does not want to leave the adultery partner (rare in non MLC cases) or because the cheated spouse wants to end the marriage.

What now we have, since Supreme Court case of a few years ago, is that adultery, regardless of divorce, means the cheated spouse can ask for monerary compensation for emotional damages. And probably one can for monetary compensation for money spend on the alienator or joint money spend by the alienator.

Would I, if I made laws/was a judge, had a problem making an alienator pay the cheated spouse? It would depend. If the alienator didn't know the other person was married I would. A one night stand wouldn' make sense. Alienators that knew the person was married? Probably not.

If people are cheating and abusing, contractually obligating someone to stay with you is not going to change that.

Of course not. But no-fault means it was no one's fault. If there is adultery, someone broke the contract. With our old law the divorce would still happen if one or the other side wanted it, but the adulterous partner would have to pay a very expensive finacial price for it. As it should be.

Adulterer and non-adulterer aren't alike, which is what no-fault divorce causes. Since marriage is a contract, a person that breaks it should pay for the infringement if the other part so wishes. As is the case with any other type of contract. Break a clause and you will be made to pay.

So far, I've got no divorce deal at all, while Mr J lives the high life. But since even a judge thinks the poor man needs to lead a dignified life, it seems not much, aside from mutual agreement can be arranged.
 
To leave it clear, the name of no-fault here is "Divórcio Sem o Consentimento do Outro Cônjuge" (Divorce Without the Consent of the Other Spouse). Fault was abolish, but one still needs to prove responsability/who was responsible. That is what Mr J was not able to do. He cannot prove I was responsible or at fault, for the end of the marriage.
Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Offline Nerissa

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 532
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2018, 11:25:27 PM »
The Tini Owens case is only controversial because the hsuband is contesting the divorce.  Why isn’t clear: hebsays they ‘rub aling’ Well enough.  Maybe he doesn’t want to pay her out or maybe he thinks she’ll change her mind.... who knows?  It’s easy enough to cite unreasonable behaviour which is minor and have it go through if it isn’t contested.  As someone earlier said, she can divorce without his consent after 5 years and they are living separately anyway.

To name the adultery partner in the U.K. is frowned upon really as vengeful.  I filed recently and felt I’d like to name her: there are some costs involved for her though I’m not clear what exactly.  She does have to get involved somehow though.  My emotional self thinks naming should be a more acceptable option since it seems to be the only bit of justice We lbs can obtain.  I didn’t do it in the end since my L suggested not to.  I still think that if I had done it my vengefulnfeelings towards her might have been somewhat sated, but in the end I decided I didn’t want to give her the power of being named as the reason and I cited ‘other wonen’ Since he’d had some one night infidelities in business trips.

  My unreasonable behaviours were - the affair and it’s length; that it continued when I was assured he was taking time out to think; refusal to go to counselling; money from joint account spent on taking her overseas quite a lot.

It was fairly anodyne since we know how much more goes on.

But even this looks quite stark, set down.  H was quite upset by it and was quite childlike in his wailing about what he had or hadn’t done.  Since he had said he was returning to the affair, and I said that would mean divorce for me, I’m not sure what he expected.  I agree that no fault divorce, while creating fewer waves, allows poor behaviour to slip by, unrecorded.  The adult in me understands it makes no difference to the outcome, but the hurt part of me feels just a little bit of justice in setting down the wrongness of his actions. 

Offline Acorn

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3000
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2018, 05:47:37 AM »
Wanna earn 8.8 million bucks?  You need to be living in North Carolina, Hawaii, Mississippi, New Mexico, South Dakota or Utah.

Check this one out.  Sweet justice!

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/31/us/north-carolina-adultery-law-trnd/index.html
Live-in MLCer
Feb 2015: BD.  H has a Nuclear meltdown. 
Oct 2015: ILYBIANILWY.
Apr 2016: Affair discovered
Dec 2017: Seriously reconnecting

Offline Thunder

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 21863
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #42 on: August 04, 2018, 06:28:57 AM »
Love it

Every state should have that law.  Might make some of these MLCer's think twice before cheating on their spouse. 
Might...
A quote from a recovered MLCer: 
"From my experience if my H had let me go a long time ago, and stop pressuring me, begging, and pleading and just let go I possibly would have experienced my awakening sooner than I did."

Offline Shelly7435

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 821
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #43 on: August 04, 2018, 07:55:46 AM »
Or maybe the ow\om!  I have always said if women are good to other women this wouldn't happen so much.

I live in Utah can I do it! ;D :D :D :D can I sue business partners using the same law? Lol
M 53
H 48
M 12 years; together 17 years
D18, S28
Summer 2014 - H wanted to runaway
9/14 I was diagnosed with Breast cancer
11/14 Surgery for BC..3 day after my father dies
11/14 BD 2 days after surgery. I have no passion for you.
2/15 moved out
Dated each other all year affection back on..
3/16 moved home
7/16 Diagnosed with Breast cancer again
8/16 No affection again. I knew something was wrong.
9/16 Another surgery for Breast Cancer
9/16 BD 11 days after surgery discovered -EA with much younger W from Work. That is over. I think he has meaningless flings. Work is his mistress
10/16 I filed for D (financial reasons)
10/16 I moved out.
10/16 Now off and on vanisher
5/17 Divorce final

Offline The Moon’s a balloon

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 163
  • Gender: Male
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #44 on: August 04, 2018, 01:27:12 PM »
“Huizar’s attorney, Cheri Patrick, claimed her client did not break up their marriage because it was already in decline.”   Ahh, the refrain of many a cheat and an MLCer over the years.  Nice to see it trotted out again. 
“It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate,
I am the captain of my soul”.

Offline OffRoad

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3432
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2018, 03:16:33 PM »
The adult in me understands it makes no difference to the outcome, but the hurt part of me feels just a little bit of justice in setting down the wrongness of his actions.
It makes no difference to our outcome, but it might save someone else down the line if they do a search for their "love" in divorce proceeding before they get too involved. Not that anyone besides me would likely do that anyway..... it'd be nice to know why someone was divorced, not just "irreconcilable differences".
When life gives you lemons, make SALSA!

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2018, 04:56:26 PM »
Every state should have that law. 

Make it every country in the world.

Might make some of these MLCer's think twice before cheating on their spouse. 

Might, but I doubt.

Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Online Mortesbride

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2469
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2018, 02:33:12 AM »
Well even if they don't think twice about it, at least we wouldn't be financially screwed on top of it all.  ;)
You know this is MLC when you have played emotional hot potato with a pair of crotch-less tights.

Offline Thunder

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 21863
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2018, 02:59:09 AM »
I wonder if anyone has ever challenged the No Fault (irreconcilable differences) law and won.

A quote from a recovered MLCer: 
"From my experience if my H had let me go a long time ago, and stop pressuring me, begging, and pleading and just let go I possibly would have experienced my awakening sooner than I did."

Offline Confused dad

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 157
  • Gender: Male
  • One day at a time.
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2018, 08:21:16 AM »
I’m in NC and my wife cheated.  I could sure use 8.8 million.
Wife moved upstairs summer of 2015
BD #1 July 2016 Said she was done( right after I told her I was 100% committed to doing the work on my end to fix our marriage)  she did not leave, things actually improved some  over the winter then she pulls away again

BD # 2 July 2017 says she wants to sell house and go our seperate ways. Wants her freedom. She is unhappy and thinks it is because of me.
EA or FA discovered July 2017. She searches her astrology sign and his almost daily. 
PA confirmed 10-8-17. Had been going on sporadically since summer of 2016
She is very active with kids but has blowups quite often.  She's acting like a teenager so maybe she relates well to them.
D-14
D-12
Married 17 years together for 20
I'm standing but am about to explode.

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2018, 08:41:30 AM »
Just read our textbook MLCer, Ben Affleck, may remain married for some time!  It's been 3 years of feet-dragging.  Could it be because *neither* of them really wants it to be over?

Now if he could just get rid of the hoochie....

Online Disillusioned

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 346
  • Gender: Male
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2018, 09:32:26 AM »
I just dont understand the footdragging behavior.  My STBXW had admitted EA at work (although I believe more) monstered at me for over a year as we lived at home, threatened divorce over and over, took off her ring and told me to date other people, set up 1 mediation and told me over and over to leave, which i eventually did.  Since moving out in March, any further movement on D has only been initiated by me.  She reacts in anger, more monstering and then moves forward.  Then stops again.  But says shes happy to be getting D'd and repeats the same litany of ills that I visited upon her in marriage.  If they want a damn D so bad, why dont they handle it?  I know  I would, if thats what I wanted.  Instead, I feel forced to continue to push her to do somethimg i still dont want to do.  It's like adding insult to injury.
M=51
W=47
D=8
BD Feb 17 Thinking of divorce
Atomic BD June 17 Spying revealed OM at work
Still home.  Threatened to leave several times and has asked me to leave about a dozen. 
Says divorce proceedings will start Jan 18.
She has scheduled mediation Feb 7,  2018
I moved out March 16, 2018
Several mediations, mostly instigated by me.  Foot dragging by STBXW.  Nothing filed. Yet.
5/2019 STBXW filed D behind my back despite signed agreement to mediate.
I retain attorney.
STBXW still hasn't told me and no further action.
Elephant in the room has been addressed.  No further action atm.  Weighing my options.

Online Treasur

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8313
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #52 on: August 12, 2018, 09:51:58 AM »
Read a VF interview with her and she seems to be like any other LBS here fighting hard to accept what she didn't choose, focus on her kids rather than dating and act with grace. Frankly way too good for her h who at least then she obviously still loved :) at the end of the article they ask her about her h's full back tattoo of a Phoenix  ::) -very MLC right? - and she sidesteps it beautifully by saying she doesn't intend to be ashes...
T: 18  M: 12 (at BD) No kids.
H diagnosed with severe depression Oct 15. BD May 16. OW since April 16, maybe earlier. Silent vanisher mostly.
Divorced April 18. XH married ow 6 weeks later.
Healing and growing found here https://littleplotbythesea.wordpress.com

"Option A is not available so I need to kick the s**t out of Option B" Sheryl Sandberg

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #53 on: August 12, 2018, 12:11:20 PM »
Yes, Garner is clearly still the Queen!

I've followed their story since even before I knew all about MLC/my own BD. (Like...when he had alienator #1/the nanny.)

I'd pick up tabloids "The Divorce is OFF!", etc. And she would say things like "I love Ben.  I never wanted this for my kids", etc.

Then I learned all about MLC and can identify what all that was....all Ben, CYCLING!

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #54 on: August 12, 2018, 08:41:30 PM »
Affleck is, and always was, a cheater (and not long ago it was with the kids' nanny). He and Jen got together by cheating. So, I don't really care if he cheated on her. That is how she got him. And, I think she also cheated on someone to be with Ben. She was just very good at playing the nice wife and mum, lots of money to gain from that facade.

She is probably the one who does not want the divorce. Around here everyone knows who Ben Affleck is, but pretty much no one knows who she is. He is world wide known, from what I get, she is well know, or sort of, in the US.

Also, very rich people divorces are complicated. Lots of money, assets, etc.

Why LBS on HS worry so much with cheating Jen is a mystery to me. She was OW. Any OW Ben may have is what she was when they got together.
Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Offline Velika

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2899
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #55 on: August 14, 2018, 12:00:31 AM »
I absolutely think Affleck is having MLC of the exact type as my ex. We are almost on identical timelines and I have even taken screenshots of Affleck that later I come across and think are my ex. Bizarrely they even dress the same, wear their hair and beard the same, and even have the same pattern of weight fluctuation and even expressions over time. Affleck also has history of this in his family. Like my ex he moved just a short walk away from his ex. Same type of masculine OW.

I don’t think Jennifer Garner was an OW. He wasn’t married when they met. She was divorced.

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #56 on: August 14, 2018, 05:32:41 PM »
Bizarrely they even dress the same, wear their hair and beard the same, and even have the same pattern of weight fluctuation and even expressions over time.

That is also Mr J. And a several more MLCers and non-MLCers that drink, don't sleep much, and lead a party style life.

I don’t think Jennifer Garner was an OW. He wasn’t married when they met. She was divorced.

Ben was still engaged to J.Lo when he and Jen meet and Jen was still married at the time. Both Ben and Jen soon were separated from their partners. So, maybe not OW, OW, but when they meet there were other people in their lives.

Ben has cheated on Jen a ton of times, nanny included. Same for his drinking and gambling, he has been banned from casinos for counting cards. She knew how he was, he never behaved that good during their marriage. The separation was mostly for show.

Remaining married suits both of them. However, it is not know who didn't follow through. Maybe none of them did.

Does any of this means Ben is not having a MLC? No, it doesn't. But his problems/addictions didn't start with MLC, they always existed. That is very different from someone whose addictions and cheating comes with MLC and has  a surprise to the LBS.
Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #57 on: August 14, 2018, 05:55:15 PM »
That's the VERY first time I've heard of any "J-Lo" connection...I really don't think that happened.  Because the tabs would have been ALL OVER that.

I just think Affleck went into MLC, and found two different alienators.

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #58 on: August 14, 2018, 06:06:18 PM »
Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez were engaged. The engagement ended in 2003. They were a high profile couple by then.

Affleck current woman has been around for years. Jen knew. He is a known cheater. Being a known, or serial cheater, does not mean someone is not in MLC.

Affleck problems and addictions are well known.
Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Offline Velika

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2899
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #59 on: August 14, 2018, 11:04:44 PM »
I actually think they were both single when they met. He has many of the factors we see in our spouse (family history, probably some narcissism/identity issues, insecure) but there is undoubtedly also the physical and behavioral symptoms that are also so uncanny to this.

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #60 on: August 23, 2018, 10:10:10 AM »
Well, well, well....

Per GMA, this morning....Affleck is re-entering rehab following an intervention led by....drumroll, please....JENNIFER GARNER!

They also reported that his affair with the hoochie-mama is officially KAPUT!  (I detest how the rags have always referred to her as his "girlfriend.")

Offline nah

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7106
  • Gender: Female
  • His mlc...too bad for him
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #61 on: August 23, 2018, 01:56:06 PM »
We need a hero's spouse "like" button. :)
H-54
me-52
ow-30
married 1986
BD April 6 2013 day after family went out for sons birthday.
I packed his bags two days later...semi-vanisher
https://heneversaidaword.com

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #62 on: August 23, 2018, 03:18:44 PM »
Nah HA! 

I have thought the exact same thing!

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #63 on: August 25, 2018, 04:26:33 PM »
WAHHH!!

Turns out that our favorite MLCer, Affleck, has been seeing a 20-something Playboy model since dumping OW#2.

Please, Ben.....get your head out of your ass, already!!!


Offline nah

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7106
  • Gender: Female
  • His mlc...too bad for him
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #64 on: August 25, 2018, 06:00:48 PM »
Did you see Dane Cook has a 19 yr old girlfriend??

Gross
H-54
me-52
ow-30
married 1986
BD April 6 2013 day after family went out for sons birthday.
I packed his bags two days later...semi-vanisher
https://heneversaidaword.com

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #65 on: August 25, 2018, 06:06:12 PM »
Well I don't know who Dane Cook is but, yeah....*gag*

"Bless his heart" (?!)

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #66 on: September 04, 2018, 12:05:00 PM »
UPDATE!

Per Ok! magazine.....Ben has moved his crap back in! (There's a pic of the moving van.)

He must remain sober for them to resume/continue their marriage, but they've both agreed to this plan.  YAY!  Ben has apparently removed his head from his ass......

It's about time, Ben!

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #67 on: September 04, 2018, 02:06:56 PM »
Ben has apparently removed his head from his ass......

It's about time, Ben!

Until the next time. Affleck is not a MLCer. He has done all this stuff many times before. He is a drunk and an addict.

Can one of the mods merge this thread with https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=10116.0 - MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5 ? Thank you.

Neil Young left his wife of 34 years for Daryl Hannah. He is 72 she is 57. Young also left his first wife in the yearly 70s - no, he didn't cheat on her with his second wife, he cheated with someone else. So, not sure if it is MLC or just a pattern. The man is on his 70's....  ??? :o
Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Online UrsaMajor

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 9101
  • Gender: Male
  • Live like they are never coming back
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #68 on: September 05, 2018, 12:50:34 AM »
Dear all,

I have merged the 2 threads (The Affleck Thread and the Stupid Celebrity (my name) thread as they are virtually the same topic, just different players/(sorry) idiots on stage...

UM
Me - 56
xW - 49
Together 19 years - Married 17 at separation
S - 12
D - 8
2 Dogs (1 each)
BD#1 - August 2015
Atomic BD - 13 Dec 2015
House sold & separated - Mar 2016
Divorce final 30 August 2019

Survival Instructions for Newbies
Site Map
 
A "friend" will not "stand by you" no matter what you do. That is NOT a friend. That is an enabler. That is an accomplice.
A REAL friend will sit you down and tell you to your face to stop being a firetrucking idiot before you ruin your life and the lives of those around you.

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #69 on: September 05, 2018, 09:23:12 AM »
Affleck is not a MLCer.

Ohhhhhh.....I beg to differ!

He may be a recovering (?) drunk and/or addict, but he's absolutely in MLC.

I have only read of two alienators (nanny, and SNL producer.)

Just read the article in The New Yorker entitled, "The Great Sadness of Ben Affleck."  Everything reads from the MLC script.  It could have been written about any one of our H's!

He was famously neglected as a child/dad an alcoholic, etc.

Offline Not Your Monkey

  • MLCer Type: Clinging Boomerang
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2200
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #70 on: September 05, 2018, 12:21:27 PM »
I just went and read the New Yorker article. What a waste of time. The author wrote the article based on a few photos snapped of Affleck. Someone could snap a photo of a senator blinking in Congress and say he was sleeping on the job, but it wouldn't make it true. You can't say anything about anyone just based on a few photos.

I think you are a bit obsessed with celebrities. OK, maybe I should say really obsessed.
Beware "MLCers" telling lies.

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #71 on: September 05, 2018, 12:40:38 PM »
I don't know what you're basing that statement on....

I believe Affleck is the only celebrity I've mentioned, because I've followed his & JG's story for forever. 

I've also mentioned Kate Spade, because IMO she was married to an MLCer, before her untimely death.

Two celebs in obvious MLC is germane to this site.  I'm not really obsessed with anyone actually.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2018, 12:41:59 PM by megogirl »

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #72 on: September 05, 2018, 01:13:59 PM »
I believe Affleck is the only celebrity I've mentioned, because I've followed his & JG's story for forever. 

Then you should know this is how Affleck acts. He has done the OW thing, the drink, the rehab before. The SNL presenter had been his mistress for years on end. Garner couldn't care less about it.

He either gets another woman or strippers when he wants to end/sabotage a relationship.

The tattoo is a bit MLC, but the rest of his behaviour is a pattern he has had for decades.

No MLCer that I know of goes to rehab because their spouse take them to. Good luck trying to take a MLCer to rehab or therapy.

I've also mentioned Kate Spade, because IMO she was married to an MLCer, before her untimely death.

Kate Spade had issues of her own.
Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #73 on: September 05, 2018, 01:26:39 PM »
Kate Spade had issues of her own.

No doubt.  She had depression, like I do.

But I see many parallels between her story, and my own.  And it makes me nuts when people try to attach everything to depression. 

I've taken Zoloft for 9 years.  But I was medicated, and thoughts of suicide were *never* there.

Enter: my horrendous MLC'er.  And turning our family upside-down was the straw that broke this camel's back.

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #74 on: September 05, 2018, 01:48:23 PM »
I don't see MLC in her husband, but, who knows.

Still, only the person who took its own life is responsible for it. I understand that things/people can drive us to suicide - my maternal grandfather suffered from mental illness and took his life and my paternal aunt also suffered from mental illness and tried to take her life.

But, regardless of anything else, it were them who did it. My grandfather never seek help, a man of his time hardly would. My paternal aunt had a psychiatrist that only seemed to do more damage.

I also had a maternal great-aunt, grandmother's younger sister, who was schizophrenic. Mental illness runs in both sides of my family.

Depression does cause a lot of problems/is responsible for lots of things. Like MLC. Or suicide. Does a non-depressed person takes its own life? I really don't know, but I would say no.

Sure, MLC will make matters worst. But you are here.
Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Offline Not Your Monkey

  • MLCer Type: Clinging Boomerang
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2200
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #75 on: September 06, 2018, 09:39:10 AM »
The whole 90210 thing? Those were actors and actresses playing parts.
Beware "MLCers" telling lies.

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #76 on: September 06, 2018, 10:56:22 AM »
You don't get it, Goner.

I believed I was acting out the role of "Kelly Taylor" then - NOT Jennie Garth.

That enabled me to believe what I was doing was normal, and acceptable.  (Because if the exact same thing happened to them....how wrong could it really be?)

I am fully aware that it was twisted thinking.  I was not in a good place, at all.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2018, 11:00:32 AM by megogirl »

Online Songanddance

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5592
  • Gender: Female
  • Strength and honour are her clothing;
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #77 on: September 08, 2018, 12:30:44 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45452146

No fault divorce likely to be ushered into UK law.......

Whilst I think the unreasonable behaviour clause should be removed - I still see nothing wrong with the two year separation before mutual divorce.  Perhaps 5 years without consent is too long but even so... it's very worrying.
BD march 2013
Stay at home MLCer
OW for 3.5 years - finishing Autumn 2016
Reconnection started 2017 through 2018.
2019 is the year of Decisions!

Online Songanddance

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5592
  • Gender: Female
  • Strength and honour are her clothing;
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #78 on: September 08, 2018, 12:34:24 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45446254

This explains a lot.  When Boris started saying random, bizarre comments in interviews and then resigned from his various posts left right and centre I must admit I wondered if he was possibly MLC. 

Apparently he has been linked with 3 women including a much younger blonde!! 

BD march 2013
Stay at home MLCer
OW for 3.5 years - finishing Autumn 2016
Reconnection started 2017 through 2018.
2019 is the year of Decisions!

Online Treasur

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8313
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #79 on: September 08, 2018, 01:33:35 AM »
Nope, knew him a bit at Oxford - serially unfaithful narcissist man child if very entertaining dinner guest. Long history of screwing over friends, lovers, colleagues and political allies...not a man to even buy a used car from tbh.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2018, 01:42:29 AM by Treasur »
T: 18  M: 12 (at BD) No kids.
H diagnosed with severe depression Oct 15. BD May 16. OW since April 16, maybe earlier. Silent vanisher mostly.
Divorced April 18. XH married ow 6 weeks later.
Healing and growing found here https://littleplotbythesea.wordpress.com

"Option A is not available so I need to kick the s**t out of Option B" Sheryl Sandberg

Offline Milly

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2652
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #80 on: September 08, 2018, 01:57:34 AM »
Treasur, Oxford!! I knew you were brainy!!
Married 1989, together since 1984 
BD May 2014,
D25, D22, S15
OW Physical Affair same one. He and she said she turned 34 the month of BD. She turned 52 this year.

Online Treasur

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8313
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #81 on: September 08, 2018, 02:45:41 AM »
 ;D a lot of pretty stupid people go to good universities though...I think Boris proves that point!
« Last Edit: September 08, 2018, 02:56:44 AM by Treasur »
T: 18  M: 12 (at BD) No kids.
H diagnosed with severe depression Oct 15. BD May 16. OW since April 16, maybe earlier. Silent vanisher mostly.
Divorced April 18. XH married ow 6 weeks later.
Healing and growing found here https://littleplotbythesea.wordpress.com

"Option A is not available so I need to kick the s**t out of Option B" Sheryl Sandberg

Online Songanddance

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5592
  • Gender: Female
  • Strength and honour are her clothing;
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #82 on: September 08, 2018, 03:00:39 AM »
Treasur - I never knew.....

What a hoot and I would agree with your last post!

I taught many students, who had no understanding of the world, go off to uni and still have no understanding of the world after graduation.  But that's life I guess.
BD march 2013
Stay at home MLCer
OW for 3.5 years - finishing Autumn 2016
Reconnection started 2017 through 2018.
2019 is the year of Decisions!

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #83 on: September 08, 2018, 02:16:50 PM »
Boris is anything but stupid. A man that speaks at least 5 languages and writes goood books about Classics is not stupid. He is an idiot and likes to cause troubles, be it personal, national or international. Like his (and thoose other Dave's mates that wanted to set some old scores with him) Leave bus.

Oxbridge is full of stupid people as are any other universities. On the other hand, there is no shortage of very intelligent people who never went to university.

The No Fault Divorce plague is spreading. It is not a good thing despite what some people think. It only levels what is not at the same level, like a cheater and the cheated spouse, etc. No Fault is great for a cheater, nope, not their fault, even the law says so. Bah!

 
Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Offline Milly

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2652
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #84 on: September 08, 2018, 02:29:29 PM »
Anjae, I have to agree with you on the No fault divorce, not that I'm very knowledgeable about it, but it doesn't feel right to me.

Regarding Boris, yes very intelligent people can be really stupid. My H is one of those,  super intelligent, highly educated from a hard to get into US university, but he's a total idiot now.   

But the majority of people who get into Oxford are very clever - and nice! Treasur, is the example!
Married 1989, together since 1984 
BD May 2014,
D25, D22, S15
OW Physical Affair same one. He and she said she turned 34 the month of BD. She turned 52 this year.

Online Songanddance

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5592
  • Gender: Female
  • Strength and honour are her clothing;
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #85 on: September 09, 2018, 12:22:24 AM »
And that's what's so clever about Boris - he gets attention even from us here on HS - he knows how to create interest by doing and saying stupid things.

That said - if he is in MLC - he is an expert in masking depression. I suspect though that this is the case and he is in complete denial which would actually match up to lots of things he has said and done over the last few years.  Makes trouble and then walks away blaming someone else. 

BD march 2013
Stay at home MLCer
OW for 3.5 years - finishing Autumn 2016
Reconnection started 2017 through 2018.
2019 is the year of Decisions!

Offline Nas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2205
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #86 on: September 11, 2018, 05:34:15 AM »
Wasn’t sure where to put this but there is a movie coming out about MLC starting Edie Falco. Begins streaming on Netflix on September 14. It’s called The Land of Steady Habits.
Married 8 years at BD, together 16.
BD March 2015
H moved out July 2015
I found out about OW March 2016 (She went to high school with H, long distance EA since September 2014, became PA November 2015)
H moved 1100 miles to live with OW June 2016
I was diagnosed with advanced breast cancer June 2017
H became a vanisher

Offline Thunder

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 21863
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #87 on: September 11, 2018, 08:24:59 AM »
Oouuu, gonna have to caught that one, Nas.

Thanks for the heads up.
Hope it's realistic.
A quote from a recovered MLCer: 
"From my experience if my H had let me go a long time ago, and stop pressuring me, begging, and pleading and just let go I possibly would have experienced my awakening sooner than I did."

Offline Milly

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2652
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #88 on: September 11, 2018, 09:04:42 AM »
Me, too, can't wait to check it out!
Married 1989, together since 1984 
BD May 2014,
D25, D22, S15
OW Physical Affair same one. He and she said she turned 34 the month of BD. She turned 52 this year.

Offline Nas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2205
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #89 on: September 11, 2018, 11:10:31 AM »
 Here is the synopsis:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/land-steady-habits-trailer-ben-mendelsohn-takes-new-life-1136984

 Looks like it will be at least more realistic than other films or writings about MLC. From reading this, it looks like the man in MLC comes to regret his choices. It says that he is unhappy with his new life.
Married 8 years at BD, together 16.
BD March 2015
H moved out July 2015
I found out about OW March 2016 (She went to high school with H, long distance EA since September 2014, became PA November 2015)
H moved 1100 miles to live with OW June 2016
I was diagnosed with advanced breast cancer June 2017
H became a vanisher

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #90 on: September 11, 2018, 03:53:09 PM »
Have to watch that one. Thanks for the tip, Nas.
Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Offline Not Your Monkey

  • MLCer Type: Clinging Boomerang
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2200
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #91 on: September 11, 2018, 09:13:56 PM »
This just caught my attention:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6156883/Sally-Field-says-recreating-relationship-sexually-abusive-stepfather-Burt-Reynolds.html

This sounds exactly like an MLC relationship. It also shows as some of us have been discussing on another thread, that single people can go into MLC and get into a relationship that looks a lot like an MLCer-OP relationship without leaving a spouse to do it.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2018, 09:19:28 PM by GonerinGhana »
Beware "MLCers" telling lies.

Offline Not Your Monkey

  • MLCer Type: Clinging Boomerang
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2200
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #92 on: September 22, 2018, 02:34:06 PM »
It looks like MLC to me:
http://www2.philly.com/philly/news/pennsylvania/bellingham-shooting-chester-county-pennsylvania-bruce-rogal-divorce-family-20180920.html

I mean why else kill your parents in connection to your divorce from your wife? Childhood issues must have played a role here.
Beware "MLCers" telling lies.

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #93 on: September 22, 2018, 04:54:58 PM »
It looks like MLC to me:
http://www2.philly.com/philly/news/pennsylvania/bellingham-shooting-chester-county-pennsylvania-bruce-rogal-divorce-family-20180920.html

I mean why else kill your parents in connection to your divorce from your wife? Childhood issues must have played a role here.

Who knows why he killed his parents. Who knows why they were divorcing. Saying this is MLC does not make much sense. This is an insane man.

"... and gunned them down in a violent outburst that betrayed the love — and financial support — they had provided him for years." parents seem to have been quite supportive of him.

Lets not see MLC where there may be none. A lunatic is a lunatic.
Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Offline Not Your Monkey

  • MLCer Type: Clinging Boomerang
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2200
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #94 on: September 22, 2018, 09:37:25 PM »
Financial support doesn't mean there wasn't other kind of abuse going on. My FIL provided my H with the financial support to become a doctor, but he also beat and tortured him to focus on his studies that got him there. Just because the article says they were "loving" doesn't mean they were.

Also, the part about him not being eligible for social security disability payments suggests he was living off of others' or passive income most of his life because you only have to have worked 6 years to be eligible for that. Maybe he was angry because they never gave him the chance to stand on his own and get a job.

You also missed the part about the affair that had been going on since 2011 with the requisite MLC motorbikes.
Beware "MLCers" telling lies.

Offline nah

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7106
  • Gender: Female
  • His mlc...too bad for him
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #95 on: September 26, 2018, 08:57:11 AM »
The recent death of Burt Reynolds has brought up the interesting relationship he had with Sally Fields.

Now, I'm not too sure if it was a mid-life crisis, but maybe more of his lifetime obsession with the "grass is greener" syndrome.

As a LBS of a vanisher, it just seemed interesting to me that they both spoke to each other only by using the press.  Sally Fields even voiced on The View, that is exactly what Burt did over the years.

If you have time, look up interviews of each of them about each other.  Just interesting to me that they both seemed to agree that the other was the love of their lives, yet they didn't speak to each other.

What a shame.
H-54
me-52
ow-30
married 1986
BD April 6 2013 day after family went out for sons birthday.
I packed his bags two days later...semi-vanisher
https://heneversaidaword.com

Offline Nas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2205
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #96 on: September 26, 2018, 09:04:50 AM »
Sally has said in interviews for her book that she was reliving and attempting to "correct" her relationship with her abusive stepfather through her relationship with Burt.  Definitely shows the reasons why people are attracted to each other and reminded me of the relationship some MLCers have with their OP of choice.
Married 8 years at BD, together 16.
BD March 2015
H moved out July 2015
I found out about OW March 2016 (She went to high school with H, long distance EA since September 2014, became PA November 2015)
H moved 1100 miles to live with OW June 2016
I was diagnosed with advanced breast cancer June 2017
H became a vanisher

Offline nah

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7106
  • Gender: Female
  • His mlc...too bad for him
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #97 on: September 26, 2018, 09:08:58 AM »
I saw somewhere that she also said she felt safe writing about him because she knew he wouldn't read it and she didn't want to hurt him.
H-54
me-52
ow-30
married 1986
BD April 6 2013 day after family went out for sons birthday.
I packed his bags two days later...semi-vanisher
https://heneversaidaword.com

Offline Not Your Monkey

  • MLCer Type: Clinging Boomerang
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2200
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #98 on: September 26, 2018, 09:57:45 AM »
No, she said she felt relieved he had died before it was published as it would have hurt him.

But yes, I agree with Nas, definitely Sally was the MLCer. Burt was the OP. Although neither was in a relationship when they got together.
Beware "MLCers" telling lies.

Offline Nas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2205
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #99 on: September 26, 2018, 10:02:18 AM »
I don't actually feel that either of them was an MLCer.  I do think a lot of their issues parallel what we see in MLC though.  I think Burt was a narcissist and Sally was a woman dealing with many demons from her childhood.  There are so many hurting people out there dealing with things in different ways.
Married 8 years at BD, together 16.
BD March 2015
H moved out July 2015
I found out about OW March 2016 (She went to high school with H, long distance EA since September 2014, became PA November 2015)
H moved 1100 miles to live with OW June 2016
I was diagnosed with advanced breast cancer June 2017
H became a vanisher

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #100 on: September 27, 2018, 11:40:40 AM »
Burt was the OP. Although neither was in a relationship when they got together.

If none of them was in a relationship there is no OP.

Also don't think it had anything to do with MLC. They both seem nuts to me and not MLC nuts.
Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Offline Nas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2205
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #101 on: November 12, 2018, 06:38:34 AM »
I don't know how you can hear it without a SiriusXM subscription, but Howard Stern is interviewing Hugh Jackman today and Hugh's mother definitely had an MLC.  She left the family - husband and kids behind.  This was in the 1970s.  Now she says she never meant for it to be forever and she told him it was like it wasn't her, it was like another person was making those choices. Very interesting.
Married 8 years at BD, together 16.
BD March 2015
H moved out July 2015
I found out about OW March 2016 (She went to high school with H, long distance EA since September 2014, became PA November 2015)
H moved 1100 miles to live with OW June 2016
I was diagnosed with advanced breast cancer June 2017
H became a vanisher

Online Whyus

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3348
  • Gender: Male
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #102 on: November 12, 2018, 06:47:30 AM »
I don't know how you can hear it without a SiriusXM subscription, but Howard Stern is interviewing Hugh Jackman today and Hugh's mother definitely had an MLC.  She left the family - husband and kids behind.  This was in the 1970s.  Now she says she never meant for it to be forever and she told him it was like it wasn't her, it was like another person was making those choices. Very interesting.

Wow! Sounds familiar.
Married - 19,5 Years pre BD
Together - 21,5 Years
Me: 46
W: 46 (Acts 25)
BD 1: 10.01.2017
BD 2: 24.02.2017 OM 28 (now 31) Trainings partner. Is tolerated by LaFamiglia
2 Sons - 20 & 21
1 Dogs and a cat.
Own home . Sold!
Divorce Date 21.08.2018
T1  http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=8671.0

Online Treasur

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8313
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #103 on: November 12, 2018, 01:55:08 PM »
Tripped over this...https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/anna-murdoch-mann-he-was-hard-ruthless-and-determined-9162236.html
Seems like the 2nd Mrs Murdoch had an all too familiar sounding BD and LBS reaction
And the 3rd Mrs Murdoch sounded like a pretty typical ow...went from adoring pixie to controlling dragon to unfaithful indifference...and it wasn't Ms Deng's first ow family wrecking rodeo either.
Extraordinarily, he married AGAIN in 2016 to Jerry Hall if you remember ( I was in LBS fog so didn't notice)
T: 18  M: 12 (at BD) No kids.
H diagnosed with severe depression Oct 15. BD May 16. OW since April 16, maybe earlier. Silent vanisher mostly.
Divorced April 18. XH married ow 6 weeks later.
Healing and growing found here https://littleplotbythesea.wordpress.com

"Option A is not available so I need to kick the s**t out of Option B" Sheryl Sandberg

Offline Nas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2205
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #104 on: November 12, 2018, 02:03:49 PM »
"You don't hurt other people for your own happiness."
Amen to that.
Married 8 years at BD, together 16.
BD March 2015
H moved out July 2015
I found out about OW March 2016 (She went to high school with H, long distance EA since September 2014, became PA November 2015)
H moved 1100 miles to live with OW June 2016
I was diagnosed with advanced breast cancer June 2017
H became a vanisher

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #105 on: November 12, 2018, 03:10:05 PM »
Did Hugh Jackman's parents reconcile, or he didn't talk about it?

Murdoch was always ruthless. He is evil and always was. Anyone who marries him either is nuts or does it for the money. His world is another world, normal rules do not apply in that world. Money and power are the only things that count.

Is is more extraordinary Jerry Hall married him. Or maybe not. She spend years with controlling, womanizer Mick and had children with him. She likes money, Murdoch has tons of it.

"You don't hurt other people for your own happiness."

Depends of who you are. Normal people don't. Some insane, cruel people do. They are happy hurting others.
Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Offline Nas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2205
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #106 on: November 12, 2018, 03:12:55 PM »
Did Hugh Jackman's parents reconcile, or he didn't talk about it?



I got the sense his father made it clear he was not open to it, so she probably never tried. 
Married 8 years at BD, together 16.
BD March 2015
H moved out July 2015
I found out about OW March 2016 (She went to high school with H, long distance EA since September 2014, became PA November 2015)
H moved 1100 miles to live with OW June 2016
I was diagnosed with advanced breast cancer June 2017
H became a vanisher

Offline Nerissa

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 532
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #107 on: November 12, 2018, 03:30:36 PM »
Is is more extraordinary Jerry Hall married him. Or maybe not. She spend years with controlling, womanizer Mick and had children with him. She likes money, Murdoch has tons of it.

I wondered the same. I mean, how much money would you need to be expecting in order to agree marry Murdoch?  I can’t imagine....

Offline Anjae

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16400
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #108 on: November 12, 2018, 03:37:16 PM »
I got the sense his father made it clear he was not open to it, so she probably never tried.

Most likely. That is what tends to happen. On HS we are a very special group of people. Out there, no one gives a chance to someone who does what MLCers do. And they are probably the ones in the right.

Is is more extraordinary Jerry Hall married him. Or maybe not. She spend years with controlling, womanizer Mick and had children with him. She likes money, Murdoch has tons of it.

I wondered the same. I mean, how much money would you need to be expecting in order to agree marry Murdoch?  I can’t imagine....

Billions. But not even billions would make me want to marry Murdoch. The thing is, women like Jerry and men like Murdoch live in a parallel universe. And now Murdoch is too old. They are probably just mates. If he dies, providing they remain married, she gets tons of money.
Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together. (Marilyn Monroe)

Offline Savoir Faire

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5314
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #109 on: December 20, 2018, 12:16:34 AM »
Here in Australia we have a television breakfast program host called Carl Stefcanovic who began to look different several years ago - he was all puffy and began dressing like a teenager and is 44 years old, and I actually commented to a friend he looked like he was going into MLC.

A few months later he left his wife of 21 years and their three children and on the day he lecft, still turned up to work like nothing had happened - sound familiar? 

He had a couple of ow's, high profile of course and a few days ago, decided to wed one of the ow's who is 10 years his junior.  She is a shoe designer and her wedding dress was a white miniskirt at the front, tapering Down at the back into full train.  It looked ridiculous.  It was a huge wedding,  all for show of course and during the wedding speech he called her his rock and said he couldn't live without her, all the usual MLC stuff.

There is a picture of them today in the press, him in jeans and T-shirt, jacket dark shoes with different coloured shoelaces, one one orange and one green :o

There is also the news that he has been sacked by the television network and for all the people living in the US, looks like he's staying with you to be with you Schmoopie ow.

He still looks like he's acting about 17 years old, according to the pressie has very little to do with his former family.  I have no doubt this is midlife crisis and it is all very sad just as it is for the rest of us.

Here's a link to one of the stories about him:

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/hook-ups-break-ups/karl-and-jasmine-tie-the-knot-in-sunset-ceremony-in-mexico/news-story/af3c386d227ae6ceca065dcff9c2dc2d

and a pic of the shoes:

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/morning-shows/karl-stefanovic-will-lean-on-his-new-wife-now-more-than-ever/news-story/c39f361b87d26c0fc0e635eca3252fe4

A picture tells a thousand words ::) ::)
"And when they ask you about me and you find yourself thinking back on all of our memories,
I hope you ache in regret as the truth hits you like a bullet and you find yourself replying: ""She loved me more than anyone else in the entire world and I tried to destroy her."  He failed by the way. 
http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=8412(Denjef's thread)

Offline BrenM

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1183
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #110 on: December 20, 2018, 12:44:28 AM »
Sav. I too have been following this story and linking a very public MLC to this man. 

Totally agree with you about the OW's wedding dress.  It was ridiculous and far from classy.  All the comments that I have read on social media has been extremely negative.  What hit home was the fact that he took his two youngest children to Mexico with him and his wedding entourage.  Apparently there is a clause in the custody agreement that the kids must spend 2 weeks with him over the December/January school holidays.  Mr MLCer took this opportunity to force his 2 youngest kids to attend his wedding in Mexico.  The eldest son is over 18 so the custody agreement does not apply.  The eldest boy has changed his surname to his mothers surname.  And up until very recently had nothing to do with his dad.  But apparent he did fly to Mexico to attend the celebrations.  According to the press, and a interview with S1, the two youngest children did not wish to attend the wedding so they stay in the motel room with their older sibling.  The older sibling stated that he wanted to care for his two younger siblings because they were upset....hmmmm.  What father subjects his kids to the trauma.

The press has been running rampant with ghastly stories about Karl's ExW...the press has been extremely cruel towards her, stalking and harassing her and her family 24 hours a day.  Sadly it was divulged recently that her father died 3 weeks ago from cancer. So this poor woman has been handling this, her husbands wedding, her kids being upset at the wedding and having to travel to Mexico as well as being harassed by paparazzi and having fake stories plastered constantly in the news and social media.  It resonated with me our very strong us LBS's can be.

Sav the shoelaces get me in the second photo.  A 44 year old man wearing different coloured Fluro shoelaces on each sneaker.  Wow.

Yes he was sacked from his position.  His ratings have plummeted over the last 3-4 years due to his on and off air antics.  IMO his on air behaviour had been very childish, arrogant and very unprofessional.  The rumour mill is in overdrive atm. Scandals are everywhere. There are whispers on Social Media that he was responsible to instigating all the fake news about his ExW - as his best mate is one of Australia's biggest media platform owners.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2018, 12:47:23 AM by Brenross »
Me 47
Him 47
OW 32
Married - 20 years
Together - 28 years
BD - Nov 2014 - reason for affair said I controlled his life, wore flannelette pyjama pants to bed and drove our family car 🤔
Moved in with Young OW and her 2 kids Jan 2015
Total Vanisher
Divorced Sept 2016
S21, S17, S16 (autism), D14

🌹🌹Let's be real...Bren is the only one who can do Bren. I'm the best Bren on the planet. Trying to turn a skank into a Bren? That will surely end in disappointment, if it hasn't already.🌹🌹

❤❤Family isn't an important thing.  IT IS EVERYTHING!! ❤❤



Vanished Return Stories Thread #1 - https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=9088.0;all
Vanisher Return Stories Link Thread #2 - https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=9378.new#new

Online Treasur

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8313
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #111 on: December 20, 2018, 01:08:55 AM »
Yup, screams MLC. The lack of respect and grace towards his family, the big showy wedding to his 'rock'....and of course the career splat. Makes me grateful that my xh is not a high profile figure...well other than in his own mind movie perhaps...
T: 18  M: 12 (at BD) No kids.
H diagnosed with severe depression Oct 15. BD May 16. OW since April 16, maybe earlier. Silent vanisher mostly.
Divorced April 18. XH married ow 6 weeks later.
Healing and growing found here https://littleplotbythesea.wordpress.com

"Option A is not available so I need to kick the s**t out of Option B" Sheryl Sandberg

Offline Savoir Faire

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5314
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #112 on: December 20, 2018, 01:31:24 AM »
Benross, the whole thing is extremely sad, I've been following it too, feel so sorry for his ex wife, she seems lovely and such a huge amount of stress on a woman with a high profile loser husband. I don't know how she remains sane.  I wish the paparazzi would leave her alone, so she can grieve the loss of her marriage. She married him when he was nothing.  I've never really liked him much, too in love with himself for my liking. 

I feel sorry for the kids, I bet they hate the ow.  What's the bet she's pregnant soon?  How long do you give the marriage?  ;D

Treasur, I'm glad my xH isn't high profile either, except in his own head. I hope him and his rock sink to the depths for what they have done to his family >:(
"And when they ask you about me and you find yourself thinking back on all of our memories,
I hope you ache in regret as the truth hits you like a bullet and you find yourself replying: ""She loved me more than anyone else in the entire world and I tried to destroy her."  He failed by the way. 
http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=8412(Denjef's thread)

Online Whyus

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3348
  • Gender: Male
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #113 on: December 20, 2018, 01:56:10 AM »
This does Sound like hes having a MLC, the way he "uses" his Kids does it for me.
As for the shoelaces, normally very strange but hes with a Young trendy shoe designerin so I wouldnt look too much into that.
I hate all MLCers by the way  :o
Married - 19,5 Years pre BD
Together - 21,5 Years
Me: 46
W: 46 (Acts 25)
BD 1: 10.01.2017
BD 2: 24.02.2017 OM 28 (now 31) Trainings partner. Is tolerated by LaFamiglia
2 Sons - 20 & 21
1 Dogs and a cat.
Own home . Sold!
Divorce Date 21.08.2018
T1  http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=8671.0

Offline hopeandfaith

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2133
  • Gender: Female
    • Clare Brown Life Coach
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #114 on: December 20, 2018, 02:15:16 AM »
That man has been making me want to puke for a long while now.  The ugly end can't come quick enough.  I seriously want to write to his wife (the real one) and tell her she's amazing.
BD's in May 09, Sept 12 - suspected OW
Left home Jan 12 2013
OW confirmed Feb 2013
Moved home April 11 2014
BD again in April 2017 - clinging. 
Moved out July 2017
D19, D17 and S15

Online Whyus

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3348
  • Gender: Male
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #115 on: December 20, 2018, 02:20:31 AM »
That man has been making me want to puke for a long while now.  The ugly end can't come quick enough.  I seriously want to write to his wife (the real one) and tell her she's amazing.

Tell her to come here and join in the fun  ;D,
Married - 19,5 Years pre BD
Together - 21,5 Years
Me: 46
W: 46 (Acts 25)
BD 1: 10.01.2017
BD 2: 24.02.2017 OM 28 (now 31) Trainings partner. Is tolerated by LaFamiglia
2 Sons - 20 & 21
1 Dogs and a cat.
Own home . Sold!
Divorce Date 21.08.2018
T1  http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=8671.0

Online Limboland2018

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 172
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #116 on: December 20, 2018, 03:33:11 AM »
https://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/karl-stefanovic-has-no-one-to-blame-but-himself-20181219-p50nai.html

I also think this an interesting article on the Karl saga. They say mlcers make really illogical decisions - evidence of a complete idiot. Glad he’s gone.
Me- 47 at BD
MLC husband -45 at BD
1 daughter - 2 1/2 years at BD
BD 1 - January 6, 2018 moves out
November 2018 - moves back in for 1 month then leaves saying relationship over, wants a divorce then flies over last minute to be with OW on holiday.
BD 2 - OW confirmed December 14, 2018 - meeting up with her for holiday
BD3 - engaged to OW December 21, 2018
BD 4 - tells me he is moving back to home country on January 27, 2019. Gives me 5 days notice. His flight date is February 1, 2019.

I just want the money and him out of my life!

Offline BrenM

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1183
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #117 on: December 20, 2018, 03:53:35 AM »
Benross, the whole thing is extremely sad, I've been following it too, feel so sorry for his ex wife, she seems lovely and such a huge amount of stress on a woman with a high profile loser husband. I don't know how she remains sane.  I wish the paparazzi would leave her alone, so she can grieve the loss of her marriage. She married him when he was nothing.  I've never really liked him much, too in love with himself for my liking. 

I feel sorry for the kids, I bet they hate the ow.  What's the bet she's pregnant soon?  How long do you give the marriage?  ;D



Sav  I actually did send Cassandra Thorburn a message via FB messenger when they first split up and he came out in public about his new relationship.  The message was never read or opened unfortunately.   I also did the same for Barnarby Joyce's wife.   Talk about being obsessed with helping LBS's lol.

I agree that she will become pregnant very quickly.  Though I really can't see the relationship lasting.  She is thriving on the media attention, social status and exposure for her shoe business.  Though most of the articles being published is very negative.

I was trying to research her history, which there is not much On the internet about her previous relationships.  Yep I stalked her haha.  She has certainly flown under the radar. .   Though I did come across this

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/hook-ups-break-ups/who-is-karl-stefanovics-new-girlfriend-jasmine-yarbrough/news-story/7776441e43c82cc7aed501c0c7a98d8b

Boy does she look very plain jane'ish In the photo with her Ex-Boyfriend.  She clearly has no taste and very low standards for her boyfriend/man material haha.  We all naturally hate the Ow's.

That man has been making me want to puke for a long while now.  The ugly end can't come quick enough.  I seriously want to write to his wife (the real one) and tell her she's amazing.

She is very amazing.  With everything she has endured she is so strong...or at least she fakes that she is strong.  She has a lot of support from the public.



« Last Edit: December 20, 2018, 03:56:25 AM by Brenross »
Me 47
Him 47
OW 32
Married - 20 years
Together - 28 years
BD - Nov 2014 - reason for affair said I controlled his life, wore flannelette pyjama pants to bed and drove our family car 🤔
Moved in with Young OW and her 2 kids Jan 2015
Total Vanisher
Divorced Sept 2016
S21, S17, S16 (autism), D14

🌹🌹Let's be real...Bren is the only one who can do Bren. I'm the best Bren on the planet. Trying to turn a skank into a Bren? That will surely end in disappointment, if it hasn't already.🌹🌹

❤❤Family isn't an important thing.  IT IS EVERYTHING!! ❤❤



Vanished Return Stories Thread #1 - https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=9088.0;all
Vanisher Return Stories Link Thread #2 - https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=9378.new#new

Offline BrenM

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1183
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #118 on: December 20, 2018, 04:02:24 AM »
https://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/karl-stefanovic-has-no-one-to-blame-but-himself-20181219-p50nai.html

I also think this an interesting article on the Karl saga. They say mlcers make really illogical decisions - evidence of a complete idiot. Glad he’s gone.

Thanks for sharing Limbo.  Yep a complete tosser.  Why would he take his kids to Mexico away from their mother when he knew they wouldn't attend the wedding?  That is just plain cruel!  Ironically in all the photos you never see a  photo of him with the kids.  Coincidence or not?
Me 47
Him 47
OW 32
Married - 20 years
Together - 28 years
BD - Nov 2014 - reason for affair said I controlled his life, wore flannelette pyjama pants to bed and drove our family car 🤔
Moved in with Young OW and her 2 kids Jan 2015
Total Vanisher
Divorced Sept 2016
S21, S17, S16 (autism), D14

🌹🌹Let's be real...Bren is the only one who can do Bren. I'm the best Bren on the planet. Trying to turn a skank into a Bren? That will surely end in disappointment, if it hasn't already.🌹🌹

❤❤Family isn't an important thing.  IT IS EVERYTHING!! ❤❤



Vanished Return Stories Thread #1 - https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=9088.0;all
Vanisher Return Stories Link Thread #2 - https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=9378.new#new

Offline Savoir Faire

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5314
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #119 on: December 20, 2018, 04:08:17 AM »
Argggghhhhh.... don't get me started on Barnaby Brenross, he's one who pushes my buttons big time.  There's something about the way he did things that reminds me of xH and so I trigger in a major way when he gets mentioned.  I also feel for his wife and hate that she has also had to endure the paparazzi. I'm glad you supported her, I think of her a lot.  She SHOULD come here.

The stupid ow in Barnaby's case is so typical of ow's.  Shows they can have high flying jobs but can be so incredibly emotionally immature, it can make you puke.  Fake woman she is.  Feel sorry for the beautiful baby they produced, such a loser father and the mother is a nutcase too.  The age difference is about 20 years as well - crazy, he's NOT an attractive man in the first place, she'll tire of him soon, especially now he's on the backbench, she's no longer 'special'.
"And when they ask you about me and you find yourself thinking back on all of our memories,
I hope you ache in regret as the truth hits you like a bullet and you find yourself replying: ""She loved me more than anyone else in the entire world and I tried to destroy her."  He failed by the way. 
http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=8412(Denjef's thread)

Offline BrenM

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1183
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #120 on: December 20, 2018, 04:26:28 AM »
Argggghhhhh.... don't get me started on Barnaby Brenross, he's one who pushes my buttons big time.  There's something about the way he did things that reminds me of xH and so I trigger in a major way when he gets mentioned.  I also feel for his wife and hate that she has also had to endure the paparazzi. I'm glad you supported her, I think of her a lot.  She SHOULD come here.

The stupid ow in Barnaby's case is so typical of ow's.  Shows they can have high flying jobs but can be so incredibly emotionally immature, it can make you puke.  Fake woman she is.  Feel sorry for the beautiful baby they produced, such a loser father and the mother is a nutcase too.  The age difference is about 20 years as well - crazy, he's NOT an attractive man in the first place, she'll tire of him soon, especially now he's on the backbench, she's no longer 'special'.

Totally agree with everything. 

In Australia we are lucky to have 3 very public Mlcers that we can study and observe from afar.
- Barnarby Joyce
- Karl Stefanovic
- Andrew Broad

Andrew Broad the National Party Sitting member of  parliament who holds the Mallee seat. He was added to my Watch List this week.  The politician who frequently visited Sugar Daddy dating sites to meet up with young women in Australia and abroad.  He is apparently happily married with 2 adoptive kids.  The bizarre thing is how he referred himself as being "James Bond" and big noting himself  to the women he was seducing haha. He is definitely no James Bond! WTF is wrong with him?  Ironically he was the first National Party member to call for Barnaby Joyce's sacking after his scandal came out....double standards there Andrew.  I eagerly watch for more articles and stories to be released.


https://www.newidea.com.au/nationals-mp-andrew-broad-shock-sugar-baby-secret
« Last Edit: December 20, 2018, 04:37:54 AM by Brenross »
Me 47
Him 47
OW 32
Married - 20 years
Together - 28 years
BD - Nov 2014 - reason for affair said I controlled his life, wore flannelette pyjama pants to bed and drove our family car 🤔
Moved in with Young OW and her 2 kids Jan 2015
Total Vanisher
Divorced Sept 2016
S21, S17, S16 (autism), D14

🌹🌹Let's be real...Bren is the only one who can do Bren. I'm the best Bren on the planet. Trying to turn a skank into a Bren? That will surely end in disappointment, if it hasn't already.🌹🌹

❤❤Family isn't an important thing.  IT IS EVERYTHING!! ❤❤



Vanished Return Stories Thread #1 - https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=9088.0;all
Vanisher Return Stories Link Thread #2 - https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=9378.new#new

Online Treasur

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8313
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #121 on: December 20, 2018, 04:28:51 AM »
How nice though that the Australian public largely seems to be seeing it for what it is, and both him and his rather marvellous xw for who they are too.
T: 18  M: 12 (at BD) No kids.
H diagnosed with severe depression Oct 15. BD May 16. OW since April 16, maybe earlier. Silent vanisher mostly.
Divorced April 18. XH married ow 6 weeks later.
Healing and growing found here https://littleplotbythesea.wordpress.com

"Option A is not available so I need to kick the s**t out of Option B" Sheryl Sandberg

Online Limboland2018

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 172
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #122 on: December 20, 2018, 08:08:13 AM »
The Barnaby Joyce scandal reminds me of my situation. My husband was the boss. OW kept on flirting with him big time and even his colleagues commented on it. OW is about the same age as BArnaby’s other woman so I wouldn’t be surprised if my stbxh and Ow get settled very quickly.....either a ring or a pregnancy in the next year.
Me- 47 at BD
MLC husband -45 at BD
1 daughter - 2 1/2 years at BD
BD 1 - January 6, 2018 moves out
November 2018 - moves back in for 1 month then leaves saying relationship over, wants a divorce then flies over last minute to be with OW on holiday.
BD 2 - OW confirmed December 14, 2018 - meeting up with her for holiday
BD3 - engaged to OW December 21, 2018
BD 4 - tells me he is moving back to home country on January 27, 2019. Gives me 5 days notice. His flight date is February 1, 2019.

I just want the money and him out of my life!

Offline Savoir Faire

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5314
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #123 on: December 20, 2018, 05:09:18 PM »
Andrew Broad puzzles me a bot Brenross, he doesn't have the MLC look, you know, the puffy dead eye look.

He may just be a serial cheater who likes young girls which is creepy at the least.

I shuddered at his text to the girl telling her what he was going to do to her - something like.  "I am going to run my hands down your body and look into your eyes and say "G'day mate".

I think that's a line that would make me run in the opposite direction but each to their own ::)

Barnaby has the look and so does Karl.
"And when they ask you about me and you find yourself thinking back on all of our memories,
I hope you ache in regret as the truth hits you like a bullet and you find yourself replying: ""She loved me more than anyone else in the entire world and I tried to destroy her."  He failed by the way. 
http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=8412(Denjef's thread)

Online Limboland2018

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 172
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #124 on: December 21, 2018, 09:59:47 PM »
https://www.nowtolove.com.au/news/local-news/who-is-barnaby-joyces-partner-vikki-campion-45028

Following from the Barnaby Joyce scandal ....I just read this about her in the above article. She’s been estranged from her father. Definite daddy issues. She’s a cow.
Me- 47 at BD
MLC husband -45 at BD
1 daughter - 2 1/2 years at BD
BD 1 - January 6, 2018 moves out
November 2018 - moves back in for 1 month then leaves saying relationship over, wants a divorce then flies over last minute to be with OW on holiday.
BD 2 - OW confirmed December 14, 2018 - meeting up with her for holiday
BD3 - engaged to OW December 21, 2018
BD 4 - tells me he is moving back to home country on January 27, 2019. Gives me 5 days notice. His flight date is February 1, 2019.

I just want the money and him out of my life!

Offline BrenM

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1183
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #125 on: December 22, 2018, 12:08:10 AM »
Limbo that woman is very disturbing!  I still remember the interview they did just after the baby was born...she was supposed to be his Political PR advisor but could not string three words together during the interview.  I still remember that he was squirming his way all through the interview.  I am pretty sure I posted the interview on here somewhere.  I will see if I can find it.

Unfortunately you don't hear too much about them atm...dare say it will pick up again in the media when the "Wankerovic" fiasco settles down.
Me 47
Him 47
OW 32
Married - 20 years
Together - 28 years
BD - Nov 2014 - reason for affair said I controlled his life, wore flannelette pyjama pants to bed and drove our family car 🤔
Moved in with Young OW and her 2 kids Jan 2015
Total Vanisher
Divorced Sept 2016
S21, S17, S16 (autism), D14

🌹🌹Let's be real...Bren is the only one who can do Bren. I'm the best Bren on the planet. Trying to turn a skank into a Bren? That will surely end in disappointment, if it hasn't already.🌹🌹

❤❤Family isn't an important thing.  IT IS EVERYTHING!! ❤❤



Vanished Return Stories Thread #1 - https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=9088.0;all
Vanisher Return Stories Link Thread #2 - https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=9378.new#new

Offline BrenM

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1183
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #126 on: December 22, 2018, 12:14:59 AM »
https://7plus.com.au/sunday-night?episode-id=SNIT18-013


Australia has our own scumbag of a Political Mlcer -our previous Deputy Prime Minister Barnarby Joyce.   A married man who has an affair with his much younger staffer, which results in a pregnancy.   Mr Joyce leaves his ever faithful and gorgeous wife for this hoe.

For those of you who are interested and have 43 minutes to spare - this link will give you an insite into the mind of a Mlcer and the OW.  It is repulsive and confronting,  yet I found it interesting knowing script about Mlc.  The OW's justification is disgraceful. 

You may need to download a 7plus app to view...please let me know if it doesn't work.  I tried seeking a YouTube link but it would appear that the tv station has exclusive rights....as they paid Mr Joyce $150,000 for the interview....that is another story. Lol

As they say that the Mlcer always affairs down...once again this is the case here.

Found it Limbo
Me 47
Him 47
OW 32
Married - 20 years
Together - 28 years
BD - Nov 2014 - reason for affair said I controlled his life, wore flannelette pyjama pants to bed and drove our family car 🤔
Moved in with Young OW and her 2 kids Jan 2015
Total Vanisher
Divorced Sept 2016
S21, S17, S16 (autism), D14

🌹🌹Let's be real...Bren is the only one who can do Bren. I'm the best Bren on the planet. Trying to turn a skank into a Bren? That will surely end in disappointment, if it hasn't already.🌹🌹

❤❤Family isn't an important thing.  IT IS EVERYTHING!! ❤❤



Vanished Return Stories Thread #1 - https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=9088.0;all
Vanisher Return Stories Link Thread #2 - https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=9378.new#new

Online Limboland2018

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 172
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #127 on: December 22, 2018, 02:18:09 AM »
Brenross

I can’t watch it unfortunately. I do think that Barnaby would have gone back with his wife if the chick didn’t have a baby. Even his wife said she knew the relationship was over when the ‘ho got pregnant with a boy. Barnaby looks miserable. His girls don’t really speak to him, his career is on the downward spiral and he’s lumbered with a woman who has daddy issues. The only joy is his little boy but I’m sure he’s not changing nappies and the ho is giving him a hard time about not being involved in child rearing. Can’t wait to hear about the happy ending.
Me- 47 at BD
MLC husband -45 at BD
1 daughter - 2 1/2 years at BD
BD 1 - January 6, 2018 moves out
November 2018 - moves back in for 1 month then leaves saying relationship over, wants a divorce then flies over last minute to be with OW on holiday.
BD 2 - OW confirmed December 14, 2018 - meeting up with her for holiday
BD3 - engaged to OW December 21, 2018
BD 4 - tells me he is moving back to home country on January 27, 2019. Gives me 5 days notice. His flight date is February 1, 2019.

I just want the money and him out of my life!

Offline Savoir Faire

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5314
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #128 on: December 22, 2018, 02:41:45 AM »
Barnaby is too far into MLC to think about his wife yet Limbo, but in the future, it's a real possibility.  It used to be obvious he loved her.

A 51 year old man doesn't have the energy for a baby,  the children he had with his wife (yes he's still married) are grown, he was almost on easy street, ready to do all the pre retirement stuff.  Now he's trapped with a 33 year old controlling woman and a baby boy.

His life sucks.  I am so happy it does.  These men blow up too much to deserve happiness.
"And when they ask you about me and you find yourself thinking back on all of our memories,
I hope you ache in regret as the truth hits you like a bullet and you find yourself replying: ""She loved me more than anyone else in the entire world and I tried to destroy her."  He failed by the way. 
http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=8412(Denjef's thread)

Offline BrenM

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1183
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #129 on: December 22, 2018, 03:23:14 AM »
Brenross

I can’t watch it unfortunately.


Bugger Limbo....I know I had dramas too and had to download the 7plus app to view it on my iPad.  I loved watching it because as you know whilst our H’s are in MLC we are becoming educated and experts on identifying the Traits of MLCers and the AP....not that we will end up receiving a graduation certificate haha



His life sucks.  I am so happy it does.  These men blow up too much to deserve happiness.


I second that Sav...far from the “Ive never been happier ever” and “She completes me” relationship bliss that they portray their union as being.  They are dillusional 😂😂


Me 47
Him 47
OW 32
Married - 20 years
Together - 28 years
BD - Nov 2014 - reason for affair said I controlled his life, wore flannelette pyjama pants to bed and drove our family car 🤔
Moved in with Young OW and her 2 kids Jan 2015
Total Vanisher
Divorced Sept 2016
S21, S17, S16 (autism), D14

🌹🌹Let's be real...Bren is the only one who can do Bren. I'm the best Bren on the planet. Trying to turn a skank into a Bren? That will surely end in disappointment, if it hasn't already.🌹🌹

❤❤Family isn't an important thing.  IT IS EVERYTHING!! ❤❤



Vanished Return Stories Thread #1 - https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=9088.0;all
Vanisher Return Stories Link Thread #2 - https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=9378.new#new

Offline Nas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2205
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #130 on: April 30, 2019, 12:07:25 PM »
If anyone is looking to be amused by an MLCer getting totally humiliated by his much younger affair down, google "Randall Emmett 50 Cent texts."

Randall Emmett is a low rate movie producer who left his beautiful wife and mother of his two kids for a 20-something reality star named Lala who has been badmouthing his ex-wife in the press and constantly talking publicly about their sex life and how she slept with Randall the first time she met him and he gave her a Range Rover, and about all the things she will do to get a ride on a private jet. (She's truly a sad little girl, desperate for attention, no boundaries whatsoever.)

Anyway, the gist is sugar daddy Randall apparently doesn't have as much money as he pretends to and Lala is bleeding him dry.  He owed the rapper 50 Cent a million dollars and 50 wasn't saying anything about it until Lala opened her mouth and started feuding with him.  Then 50 absolutely destroyed both Randall and Lala on Instagram until he got his money back.  At one point, Randall's ex-wife even joined in. He's since taken down all of his hilarious posts but if you google any of their names, you'll find the story. 

Try to find the picture Randall had taken of himself in the ER, where he had to go because he was having an anxiety attack over all of this.  Or any picture of him since he's been with Lala.  His eyes look like black dimes and he just looks like the most depressed, pathetic person.  You'd almost feel sorry for him...until you read about him and what an asshat he's been. 
Married 8 years at BD, together 16.
BD March 2015
H moved out July 2015
I found out about OW March 2016 (She went to high school with H, long distance EA since September 2014, became PA November 2015)
H moved 1100 miles to live with OW June 2016
I was diagnosed with advanced breast cancer June 2017
H became a vanisher

Offline KeepItTogether

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4941
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #131 on: April 30, 2019, 01:05:21 PM »
OMG Nas I love it!  I watch Vanderpump Rules, where Lala is one of its "reality stars."  When the "relationship" first started, the entire cast basically called her out on it. That she was a homewrecker. Of course her response was that he was separated, getting a D....you know, same ole. For some strange reason, the show shut down anyone who called it an affair, that these 2 lovebirds met and got together far after the marriage went sour. Typical Hollywood. But every now and again, someone will say something intimating this indeed began as a full on affair.

Yes, Lala is a pathetic, damaged creature. Extremely beautiful and talented, yes. But oh so tragic.  She had broken up with "Rand" at one point. She said she could easily (insert sexual favor lingo here)  to get on a private jet with some other rich guy so she wouldn't need Rand anymore.  And that 50 Cent stuff was amazing. Talk about a front row seat to the karma bus!
Me 47
H 46
S12
BD 5/16
H Moved out 6/16
OW--yes. Worked for H. EA turned into PA while I was in chemo. On again/off again like every high school romance

Offline RedStar

  • MLCer Type: Off-N-On
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 246
  • Gender: Female
  • MLCer is in high energy replay.
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #132 on: April 30, 2019, 01:18:20 PM »
Thank you Nas for the amusement!

I had no clue who either of these winners were, but in my MLC reading these days (I usually have some old thread on tap because they are all so instructive!), it has been really interesting how the whole bit about the vampires these MLCers allow to feed on them has been really popping out. That's what desperate people-pleasers expose themselves to, believing these are their soul mates and best buds. Just...ick.

And what you've pointed out as the very MLC expression in the photos--it is so very close to what I've seen my MLCer display. Weird how similar it is even though there's little physical resemblance.

Online Mortesbride

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2469
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #133 on: May 02, 2019, 05:19:04 AM »
Imagine having a world famous person driving your karma bus though.  8)
You know this is MLC when you have played emotional hot potato with a pair of crotch-less tights.

Online Mortesbride

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2469
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #134 on: May 13, 2019, 01:14:06 AM »
Interesting...particularly if you read further down the page..

I think this might make the daughter a product of an OW?

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/freddie-starrs-daughter-embarrassed-he-is-her-father-122307082.html
You know this is MLC when you have played emotional hot potato with a pair of crotch-less tights.

Online Songanddance

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5592
  • Gender: Female
  • Strength and honour are her clothing;
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #135 on: June 23, 2019, 01:57:33 AM »
This is probably more interesting for UK people but I am fairly convinced that one of the prospectives for Prime Minister aka Boris Johnson is going through an MLC

He is erratic in comments - has been caught out lying, suddenly abandoned his wife of 20+ years insisting on quickie divorce, moved in with much younger girlfriend and if the news of yesterday is to be believed, she has tried to kick him out and their relationship appears to be somewhat stormy.  The row was recorded by a neighbour.

His STBX has said nothing but according to news sources - his abandonment of her came completely out of the blue

The now GF has supposedly stated in the row that " he didn't care about money, he didn't care about her only about himself."

Now Boris has always struck me as unreliable and difficult (perfect politician) but I do wonder if he is in MLC. If so God help the UK!!   (NO comments about Brexit please!!)
BD march 2013
Stay at home MLCer
OW for 3.5 years - finishing Autumn 2016
Reconnection started 2017 through 2018.
2019 is the year of Decisions!

Online Treasur

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8313
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #136 on: June 23, 2019, 02:02:10 AM »
No MLC I think...long history of narcissistic stuff...serial cheating, arrogance, entitlement, deceit and love bombing charm writ large.

But his new girlfriend might be a bit BPDish...screaming fights, old boyfriend says she is lovely but 'very intense' and it was most the most 'up and down' relationship he'd ever had...... ::)
Just what we need politically. A narcissist and a bordeline in No 10. Sigh.
T: 18  M: 12 (at BD) No kids.
H diagnosed with severe depression Oct 15. BD May 16. OW since April 16, maybe earlier. Silent vanisher mostly.
Divorced April 18. XH married ow 6 weeks later.
Healing and growing found here https://littleplotbythesea.wordpress.com

"Option A is not available so I need to kick the s**t out of Option B" Sheryl Sandberg

Online Mortesbride

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2469
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #137 on: June 23, 2019, 08:07:22 AM »
Well the Uk won't be laughing so much about the USA getting Trump. Now they getting him! Bwahaha. Honestly the world is nuts. ::)
You know this is MLC when you have played emotional hot potato with a pair of crotch-less tights.

Offline serenity

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 3435
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #138 on: June 23, 2019, 08:57:27 AM »
S & D

I had exactly the same thought on boris!

I also worried about having a MLC man running the UK!!

X

Offline 20thcenturygirl

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 199
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #139 on: June 23, 2019, 11:45:52 AM »
I had the same thoughts about Boris!  He does have a long history of affairs but if you watched him on television the other day he seemed totally out of it and more shambolic and bumbling than ever. 
H 62
Me 51
BD October 31st 2017
Three months of confusion & coming & going
Left Home December 28th 2017
OW1 living the life with him January 31st 2018 - met her whilst walking dogs.  Ended May 2018
OW2 Tinder date for a few weeks
OW3 Tinder became serious.  Ended late October 2018.  She sent OW1 all of their e-mails and texts.  They were so in love it bought tears to his eyes.
OW4 Met and fell in love beginning of October 2018.  They are so in love it brings tears to his eyes.  She says God brought him into her life.

Offline 1trouble

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2052
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #140 on: June 23, 2019, 01:03:07 PM »
No MLC I think...long history of narcissistic stuff...serial cheating, arrogance, entitlement, deceit and love bombing charm writ large.

But his new girlfriend might be a bit BPDish...screaming fights, old boyfriend says she is lovely but 'very intense' and it was most the most 'up and down' relationship he'd ever had...... ::)
Just what we need politically. A narcissist and a bordeline in No 10. Sigh.

I agree with Treasur on this ...I think if Boris is being a bit more fumbling\bumbling then its probably the late night drama/sex with his new BP girlfriend (who seems very controlling and ambitious ).
His private life is a shambles but he has always stayed with his poor long suffering wife,
This time he has bitten off more than he can chew but I don't think its MLC

Paul Hollywood/ Ant Macpartlan yes
Louise Rednapp definitely
"I can't go back to yesterday I was a different person then"..............Alice in Wonderland

you NEVER know how strong you are, until being strong is the ONLY choice you have"

Offline Not Your Monkey

  • MLCer Type: Clinging Boomerang
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2200
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #141 on: June 23, 2019, 01:25:39 PM »
I read about the Boris Johnson incident and to be honest, I just did not think of MLC. From what I have read, he has a history of extramarital affairs and divorces that goes back a long way. I also found the quote at the end of this article rather interesting: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/22/boris-johnson-by-those-who-know-him

To me, this just seems like an inherent personality trait rather than a aberration from normal behavior for him.
Beware "MLCers" telling lies.

Offline Mitzpah

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 6067
  • Gender: Female
  • How I long for your precepts! Psalm 119:40
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #142 on: June 23, 2019, 03:34:13 PM »
Yikes! we have the same situation here in Brazil - except that the xwife (20 years married) is being investigated for illicit liasons in the present government. The current, young and beautiful wife (and mother of his only daughter, I believe) is coveted by all and sundry ::)

I am so tired of these politicians, they are all the same :P
M 57
H 57
S 27
D 24
BD 13 Dec 2010
Divorced 27 Feb 2015 (30 years marriage)

"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future" Jeremiah 29:11

Offline Penelope2018

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #143 on: June 23, 2019, 09:15:07 PM »
Well if this wasn't a MLC disaster I don't know what is!

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/thai-bride-wins-battle-share-075115748.html

These MLCers and OP really are disgusting. Those poor kids. It must be horrible having parents like that, who only give a crap about themselves. She found an English husband real quick  ::) ::). Must be a geriatric patient or another MLC nutjob.
MLC XH - 42 currently
M - 34 currently
Mini BD - Feb 2017  - Doesn't want to be married to a "sad" person.
Angry b/c I was depressed from my Grandmother's death in 12/16
BD - July 2017 - spent the previous 3 months in his home country with OW
OW discovered Aug 2017
EA started Dec 2016? PA start unsure
Filed for D - Aug 2017
D - Nov 2017
I moved out for four months
Moved back in for 8.5 months
Moved back out 12/2018 - practicing NC
Married - 15 Y
No kids

Offline Trustandlove

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5988
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #144 on: June 23, 2019, 10:33:44 PM »
Boris is not an MLCer.  He has always been this way; if he's more chaotic than is usual even for him it's because his soon-to-be-ex-wife (who already was wife number 2) is no longer the stabilising influence that she has been for 25 years. 

Even his sister writes that she has to be careful around him, and that's not something new for her.

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Celebrities who've had a MLC
« Reply #145 on: July 06, 2019, 04:39:01 PM »
I just read that Jeff & MacKenzie Bezos settled their divorce, which was (very obviously) an MLC, and I got to thinking - who else?

There's Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver.  There's Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner.  There's John and Elizabeth Edwards.

Anyone else that I'm forgetting?
« Last Edit: July 06, 2019, 05:42:59 PM by megogirl »

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #146 on: July 07, 2019, 07:59:54 AM »
Oh!!  Oh!!  I just remembered one more.....

John McCain, and his first wife

If you read his interviews, it's very clear that he had a MLC.  He talked about feeling shameful regarding the destruction of his first marriage. 

He did pay for his ex-wife's health insurance for life.....presumably out of guilt.

« Last Edit: July 07, 2019, 08:23:01 AM by megogirl »

Offline Nas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2205
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #147 on: July 22, 2019, 09:17:02 AM »
Don't know if anyone watches Big Little Lies on HBO, but last night's finale with dead-eyed PTSD/depressed Bonnie standing next to her dead mother, dealing with her FOO/mother's abuse and telling (her husband) Nathan she didn't love him and maybe never did punched me right in the gut.

(This after last week's episode where she told her mother she resented her for the abuse and for making her feel so worthless that she "settled for a man she didn't" love.)

Not an MLC.  Just a woman facing her abusive past and taking a deep look at herself.  It was gut wrenching.
Married 8 years at BD, together 16.
BD March 2015
H moved out July 2015
I found out about OW March 2016 (She went to high school with H, long distance EA since September 2014, became PA November 2015)
H moved 1100 miles to live with OW June 2016
I was diagnosed with advanced breast cancer June 2017
H became a vanisher

Offline KeepItTogether

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4941
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #148 on: July 22, 2019, 03:02:40 PM »
I need to catch up with BLL Nas, but didn't Nathan cheat on his wife with Bonnie to begin with?  So maybe he was an MLCer, and she a broken OW. Which may be what you were saying.  I have only watched 1 episode this season....guess I'll be catching up tonight!
Me 47
H 46
S12
BD 5/16
H Moved out 6/16
OW--yes. Worked for H. EA turned into PA while I was in chemo. On again/off again like every high school romance

Offline Nas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2205
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #149 on: July 22, 2019, 06:44:57 PM »
No, Nathan didn’t cheat on Madeline, he just abandoned her when their daughter was a baby. He’s a d!ck. But the storyline was that he had met and married Bonnie years later and was trying to be s better man.
So he gets his karma (about 16 years too late) for abandoning Madeline. But it was really hard to watch Bonnie tell him after a decade together that she “doesn’t love him and maybe never did.”
Married 8 years at BD, together 16.
BD March 2015
H moved out July 2015
I found out about OW March 2016 (She went to high school with H, long distance EA since September 2014, became PA November 2015)
H moved 1100 miles to live with OW June 2016
I was diagnosed with advanced breast cancer June 2017
H became a vanisher

Offline KeepItTogether

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4941
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #150 on: July 23, 2019, 04:44:07 AM »
Oh boy—those words hit awfully close to home for we LBS, right Nas? I’ll brace myself for it. Thanks for the back story lol. I am the worst at watching shows—never fully paying attention!
Me 47
H 46
S12
BD 5/16
H Moved out 6/16
OW--yes. Worked for H. EA turned into PA while I was in chemo. On again/off again like every high school romance

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #151 on: September 22, 2019, 03:26:17 PM »
Ha!

So, per People magazine, Demi Moore apparently had a MLC when she married Ashton Kutcher:

In a new interview with the NYT about her marriage, she felt their romance was "a do-over, like I could just go back in time and experience what it was like to be young, with him."

Always thought their age difference was a tad strange......!

Offline Thunder

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 21863
  • Gender: Female
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #152 on: September 22, 2019, 03:59:07 PM »
Does anyone want to start a new thread for this discussion?

Next Thread - Part 6 : https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=11118
« Last Edit: Today at 01:41:17 AM by UrsaMajor »
A quote from a recovered MLCer: 
"From my experience if my H had let me go a long time ago, and stop pressuring me, begging, and pleading and just let go I possibly would have experienced my awakening sooner than I did."

Offline megogirl

  • Subscriber, 6 Month
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2127
  • Gender: Female
  • "You must do the thing you think you can not do."
Re: MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 5
« Reply #153 on: September 22, 2019, 04:04:01 PM »
Not much to discuss, Thunder...just thought this excerpt was funny.

So....time for the new thread!  TY

 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk
Legal Disclaimer

The information contained within The Hero's Spouse website family (www.midlifecrisismarriageadvocate.com, http://theherosspouse.com and associated subdomains), (collectively 'website') is provided as general information and is not intended to be a substitute for professional legal, medical or mental health advice or treatment for specific medical conditions. The Hero's Spouse cannot be held responsible for the use of the information provided. The Hero's Spouse recommends that you consult a trained medical or mental health professional before making any decision regarding treatment of yourself or others. The Hero's Spouse recommends that you consult a legal professional for specific legal advice.

Any information, stories, examples, articles, or testimonials on this website do not constitute a guarantee, or prediction regarding the outcome of an individual situation. Reading and/or posting at this website does not constitute a professional relationship between you and the website author, volunteer moderators or mentors or other community members. The moderators and mentors are peer-volunteers, and not functioning in a professional capacity and are therefore offering support and advice based solely upon their own experience and not upon legal, medical, or mental health training.