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« on: August 13, 2018, 09:49:15 AM »
Right now I am and have been for the past 30 minutes or so been working on the colors for the mobile theme. This is different because this particular theme allows me to change colors in the back-end, whereas most do not have that option and I have to change the code directly.

I've been using some of the colors from the multicolor theme--rather than the slightly brighter greens from my brand colors. This is why you have been seeing some mixed colors. It takes about two minutes for each change to repopulate and then I have to see what it changed--so I have 3 windows open--the original multicolor in another browser, the board index and the backend.

I have the site background, the headers (some background strips--called category background I think) and the Header. I also changed the font to Verdana on the two places it allows...but don't see it. I want the header color a bit lighter and would like that color to continue--replacing the medium blue background overlaying the wider background (which I set as light purple--matching the main site).

I need to get going though--I'm doing this while the kids are creating fun chaos around me! ;) But I do want anyone on the mobile theme to have the more calming green background--since most, like me, prefer that. It's just a quick fix and I have not figure out all of it. There are also annoying bursts of blue between posts I did not figure out the other day. The backend color changes are limited.
It does appear that you should now be able to change your theme in your profile again though--I am logged in in the other browser as one of my test users and I was able to change it--profile--look and layout there is a tiny link next to current theme.



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Re: Re: Forum Problems 2
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2018, 09:52:01 AM »
Back to normal for me too.

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Re: Re: Forum Problems 2
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2018, 09:58:16 AM »
Back to normal for me too.

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Let's dance like maniacs before she changes them again!

(sorry I was so enthusiastic that I started to edit your post first instead of quoting ;D)
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Re: Re: Forum Problems 2
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2018, 10:05:19 AM »
Maybe it was Sir Osis.

I was just changing something else and when I refreshed I was on multicolor.
I will check to see what the default. I will then change mine to the mobile--when we can choose our theme it is like using a test site because I can select the mobile and make changes to it while you guys can still use multicolor..and aren't I supposed to be going?
I need to get 5 little ones ready for a Costco outing!

I was just changing the last color for now anyway. After that I really want to do it without you guys seeing the weird changes because I am down to a couple that I am not sure what/where they do/are and so I may choose some luridly bright test color at first so I can find the changes. I did that with this awful bright pink on the test forum and it is so weird...I only see the bright pink for a fraction of a second as I refresh. :o

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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2018, 10:08:48 AM »
I'll read through all your posts soon as I get a chance, but one thing I'm not getting is how you were seeing 'the old version' on phones.  Curve Multi Color, which was your original theme for a long time (green theme by default, with selectable color variants), is not a responsive theme, it should display the same on mobile as it does on pc, so you have to zoom everything up to read/post/pm, etc.  That's how my forums look/work on mobile.  The changes started a few days ago when RCR was working with mobile-desktop, a responsive theme that is supposed to look different on phones, and be easier to work with.  That's the theme you're looking at now.  I installed a clean copy last night, and it's really not that bad, but she's once again made some changes which have changed the fonts (face and size), and made it look awful.  We also tried a responsive curve mod, which adds mobile features to Curve, but it doesn't work very well.

If everyone was happy with the old theme (non-responsive Curve MC), and no one was complaining about using it on phones, then there would have been no reason to make any changes.  If you want a theme that's responsive for easier use on mobiles, then it'll take a bit of work to find and customize one that'll work for everyone.  Mobile themes are something of a horror show because of all the variations in devices, compounded by the usual differences in personal preferences.

I've just now set everyone back to Curve MC, and uninstalled responsive Curve mod, so everything should be as it was.


@RCR - if you want to continue working with mobile-desktop, you can select it for your own use in Profile -> Look and Layout, I can do the same if you need assistance.  All other members will remain in Curve MC.

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Re: Re: Forum Problems 2
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2018, 10:36:56 AM »
Actually I have not done anything to the font size attribute; I only changed to Verdana which interestingly it looks like is the first option which I thought meant would be the default and was not. So I switched from comic sans (yuck) to Verdana and it is naturally bigger. I just now switched to Arial to see if that is better. But I am the only one on this theme--which is good for now.

I did not realize that there are now two of the mobile-desktop themes installed--the one I had started with that used my brand colors no one liked and then today I thought it was just a clean install and the other was gone, I began trying the more subdued multicolor greens. I think it is better. But colors or not, the theme is still giving people problems which means it won't work. It's nice for me right now though because I can still use it to test colors while everyone else continues on curve mc.

The test forum can only take me so far--with all the posts and users there is more for me to see when I make changes here.

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Re: Re: Forum Problems 2
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2018, 10:57:16 AM »
Yay, I can read posts without a magnifying glass on my tablet now!
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2018, 11:23:15 AM »
Thank you - it’s back to normal now!

I can read it and use it as normal! Hallelujah

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Re: Re: Forum Problems 2
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2018, 07:51:50 PM »
I have mobile-desktop running here, currently out-of-box.  It's not a bad theme, and the mobile view is better than responsive curve, which has a basically unuseable main menu, which for some reason isn't displayed on this forum (I have it working elsewhere).  Not going to waste time with it.  If I can get out from under, I'll tinker with mobile-desktop tonight.  The code is very strange, so it'll take a while to find things.

@RCR - I'll do the menu buttons for you now.  The mobile-desktop you were working on when I got here is in /mobile-desktop.sav/.

Buttons are up.  You can rename or move them around in /Sources/Subs.php.


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Re: Re: Forum Problems 2
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2018, 07:52:40 PM »
If everyone was happy with the old theme (non-responsive Curve MC), and no one was complaining about using it on phones, then there would have been no reason to make any changes.

As RCR explained, the changes were because of Google responsiveness. Don't think anyone was complaining of the old/usual/normal theme. And I don't think people were asked if they were or weren't happy with it.

If you want a theme that's responsive for easier use on mobiles, then it'll take a bit of work to find and customize one that'll work for everyone. 

It is RCR that wants/needs the responsice theme. None of us, maybe aside from you, were aware of the responsiveness issue until RCR mentioned it. Even those of us who are a bit techie don't come here thinking about those matters. We only want the board to be readable and working.

Mobile themes are something of a horror show because of all the variations in devices, compounded by the usual differences in personal preferences.

Indeed, mobile themes are a horror show. The personal preferences also aply to computer (or tablet) users. Gmail will soon be chaning again, but, as always, will allow for the use of its classic theme, that is the one I use with a personalized colour.

RCR, shinny/bright colours are a problem regardless of the colour. They tire and hurt the eyes and make things difficult. For people to remain on a site/spend time on a site, the site must be comfortable to the eyes (and head, some tones and shades and light intensity cause some people terrible headaches).

The more mate soft grey-green (the original multi-colour) is comfortable and does not tire the eyes.

Also to remember that, like Ursa said, some colours are not good to be seen at night because they affect sleep. It was the case of the blue themes.

Can you create a mirror board, with all the users and features, but have it on a different url, or on a beta/experimental page? That way you wouldn't have to be testing on the real board, rather on the replica.

I have mobile-desktop running here, currently out-of-box.

Whatever that thing is, it looks pretty much like all the other blue designs. It hurt the eyes, is too bright, weird small font, etc. If you are going to do new tries, please find a away of leaving the option to revert to curve multi-colour if we so wish.
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Re: Re: Forum Problems 2
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2018, 10:16:05 PM »
Why has the site changed again? It was working fine yesterday and back to normal and now it’s all weird again!

What’s going on?

Just want a site that’s easy to use!

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Re: Re: Forum Problems 2
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2018, 10:41:45 PM »
It hasn't changed, you should be seeing the old theme (Curve Multi Color - green), just like it was before.

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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2018, 11:41:08 PM »
@RCR - Did some tinkering with mobile-desktop here.  Not finished, but it's the general idea.  I'm working in FF61 responsive design mode, what's it look like on phones?

Also fixed the menu problem in responsive Curve.  What were the objections to that theme?  It doesn't change the current theme on pc, only mobile.  (It's not currently installed.)


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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2018, 12:21:24 AM »
@RCR - Did some tinkering with mobile-desktop here.  Not finished, but it's the general idea.  I'm working in FF61 responsive design mode, what's it look like on phones?

OK, I am on Android 8 and using Chrome on an Honor9 phone. The design on the Krashsite test is cool... the colors are easy to deal with, easy on the eyes (the green is muted and not "in your face" glaring), the font is quite legible and easy to read. the screen in both horizontal and vertical modes resizes correctly with the screen boundaries in width determining the page width. Pictures reize nicely. The theme is very responsive on my phone but then again, I log in directly and not via a Web Search over Google plus I have 64GB onboard RAM and 64 additional in an SD card so I am NOT memory limited...

For the mobile side, that is a theme that is quite acceptable in my eyes.

On the PC side, the return to the old color scheme is MUCH easier to read over time and the font is fine (no more comic sans! YEAH!) in terms of face and pitch....

Thanks RCR and Sir Osis for all the work and tinkering. The idea of the test site where us users can look before publishing it to the real world is a VERY good one....

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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2018, 04:01:58 AM »
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The site is working fine for me on the PC and phone - no problems at all :)
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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2018, 09:43:57 AM »
Heading to fair 90 minute drive each way--day out with the adorables. So gone all day.

Thank you so much Sir Osis. That test site is especially nice.

Everyone, check out that test site as Ursa did and let us know if those colors are okay--I tried to use the base colors from our original theme.

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And Sir Osis, let me know if I am understanding you... non mobile users will be able to default to the mobile theme and PC users to the original theme?

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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2018, 03:36:19 PM »
If you install a responsive theme or mod, it's supposed to show the user the appropriate format for the device they're using.  PC users will see pc view, mobile users will see mobile view, they cannot choose which view they see on their device.  That's why it's called responsive, it automatically adjusts to viewing device.  If we reinstall responsive Curve mod in Curve MC, mobile users see the mobile format.  (I've done some tinkering with it and corrected the nav problem.)  PC users will continue to see what they've been seeing all along, there won't be any change.  The mod converts Curve MC from non-responsive to responsive.  Mobile-desktop is a responsive theme, mobile format is built in. 

From the many comments posted, it seems that most members have been very happy with Curve MC, whether using pc or mobile.  If your major reason for going responsive is seo, I believe it's possible to show Google responsive Curve MC, while keeping everyone else on current non-responsive theme.  We can have two versions, guests (and Google) see responsive, members don't unless they opt to select it in profile.  Don't think it can be done in ACP, but a simple database edit should do it.  I'll try it on test install soon as I get a chance.
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Re: Forum Problems 2
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2018, 10:38:19 PM »
Sorry for the delay everyone. But I did want to give you a break from all the chaotic design testing  ;) and school is now starting--this week and next and I've got a peach tree that just finished and another ready to harvest. I am up to my ears in peaches and now the plums are about to be ready!

It turned out that changing the colors--slightly was easier than I thought--no coding, though that confused me at first since I'm more used to going to CSS and making changes than to images still don't know how it works! I made changes at a test site and then created a new theme based on the default theme we all love. I used the main colors, but not all of them--there are 10-20 different greens, many that seem almost the same--in the original. I just scaled down and used a few. I also changed the orange fonts to a maroon because I just don't like orange and I think the Header fonts are now a dark purple and some buttons are a little different. I also made the stickied topics at the top of the board have light purple backgrounds instead of the original pink. Honestly, as I look at what I can see now of the theme while typing, I can barely tell the difference (since I've scrolled beyond the Header). I am hoping it just feels natural to you.
This is not responsive, but as Siro Osis said, the responsive mod can help with that...
Sir Osis, I don't want to install the mod without checking with you that we should be safe--no clashes with other mods? I also really need to get my adsense mod (or a different one than I used before) installed again and am nervous that something will break.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on the colors I am using in the new theme--I don't want to make it default without feedback, but may do that so everyone can see it (temporarily while awaiting feedback) if no one manually goes in and tries it out. This theme should only be different by a few color changes--but no layout changes, missing or additional features--though a header that is like the main site.

To view the theme go to your profile, then look and layout. The first thing in Look and Layout is Current Theme with a change link next to it in a smaller font. This will show you alist, find HS_ multicolor, I think it is the last in the list.

Then post here with your opinions.

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« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2018, 07:12:03 AM »
To add...
One thing I don't know how to fix is the menu buttons above. They are now going through the border line between two colors and that is annoying. There might be a fixing the css--it often has a placement attribute of so many pixels from the top or something like that, I just haven't found it. Sir Osis, do you know?

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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2018, 07:32:37 AM »
To add...
One thing I don't know how to fix is the menu buttons above. They are now going through the border line between two colors and that is annoying.

Its funny - I dont have that issue.

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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2018, 08:45:08 AM »
To add...
One thing I don't know how to fix is the menu buttons above. They are now going through the border line between two colors and that is annoying.

Its funny - I dont have that issue.
Good to know, I had wondered because I did not have that problem in some browsers in the test site--but I think that was when I was logged in and then it went away when I logged in, but now in Chrome I have the problem when logged in, but I thought it had been okay in Chrome for awhile too. Weird

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« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2018, 08:56:52 AM »
Now in Internet Explorer...

The location of the menu is the same--through the border...BUT that is when I have the Welcome showing--Hello, show unread posts, show new replies, date/time--four lines next to mini logo. When I click the up/down arrow by the search box I can hide the welcome cluster and the menu moves up.

Hmm, that little arrow is white and does not show up very well...I need to make find out where to make it darker...maybe one of the darker greens.

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« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2018, 09:38:31 PM »
Just having a look.  The upshrink image is called in index.template.php -

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// the upshrink image, right-floated
echo '
<img id="upshrink" src="', $settings['images_url'], '/upshrink.png" alt="*" title="', $txt['upshrink_description'], '" style="display: none;" />';


It's in Themes/Curve_Multi_Color/images/.

Main menu looks normal to me in IE11.  Header image is overflowing right.  Responsive curve mod will likely be a problem.  It's designed to work only with default Curve, I can fix some of the glitches in Curve MC, but probably not all, especially with a lot of mods running.  The best responsive theme I've worked with so far (I've only recently started messing with this) is mobile-desktop.  Some mods have been updated to work with responsive themes, some haven't, you just have to try them.  Best thing to do is to finalize whichever new theme you want to use, then we can try modding it for mobile.



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« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2018, 03:05:21 PM »
Was thinking about this after I got off last night, it's really not clear to me what you're trying to accomplish.  Everyone here seems to prefer Curve MC green, and the themes you've been working on look basically the same.  If the only goal is to make the theme responsive, it would be pretty simple to recolor default Curve same as MC green.  If you apply the changes to your current default Curve install, there would be no need to uninstall/reinstall mods, as you'd have to do with a new theme, and you can use responsive Curve mod, which is designed to work with default Curve.  If there are problems with some mods, you'll have to deal with that in any theme you use.  It would be the easiest way to retain your current look and make it responsive.

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« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2018, 10:16:31 PM »
OMG, Why hadn't I thought of that?

I think we all seem to prefer the green and when I chose MC I chose it because I liked the green option more than any other theme I found. Thanks. I will look into this.

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« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2018, 08:51:55 PM »
Here is default Curve running with MC green images and css.  Just takes a few minutes to do.

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« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2018, 04:38:02 AM »
Can you lock my old thread but unlock my new one please? Thank you

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« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2019, 10:21:27 AM »
I have a question about PMs. I have sent PMs and checked the box to send my outgoing messages. But I can't find the outgoing messages anywhere. Can someone tell me the URL for the outbox? Thanks!

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« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2019, 11:14:24 AM »
I have a question about PMs. I have sent PMs and checked the box to send my outgoing messages. But I can't find the outgoing messages anywhere. Can someone tell me the URL for the outbox? Thanks!
I just sent you a PM.
It would be located in the sent items folder.
Their is no URL that I know of.

I checked your profile and it is set up to save the outgoing messages.

For others - make sure the box below the PM is checked when you send out a PM.

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« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2019, 11:16:40 AM »
I think the reason this happens is if you leave it too long before you send your message off

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« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2019, 02:51:26 PM »
YES, I did it. RCR has messed something up again. Really all I was doing was adding new mentor ID badges in ftp--something I've done tons of times before and I was doing last night too--with no issues. I had to go to bed before I got them in all the themes, so continued this afternoon.

Now most of the menu is gone and the buttons to do things like post are unlabeled. If anyone is wondering I think it's the first button at the top of a thread or post on the right side--I got it by just clicking on that one and hoping!
To submit it is the first rectangle button at the bottom left of the post typing box--preview is the 2nd (middle) button at the bottom right.

I can't get to admin functions--or don't know if that menu button is available without a label. Can't approve posts.
Oh and if you post, you may be confused. I just posted this basic message at the mod board first and after selecting the supposed submit button it took me to a page with the header and stuff, but nothing else. Ugh, did my pots disappear? Nope, fortunately, the forum menu button is still there as are the breadcrumb links at the top showing which board and thread you are in. I selected the board, it took me to a normal looking board (without those menu buttons) and showed the post I had just created. So we can post, it just feels weird.

Going now to the smf help board to post this problem.

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« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2019, 04:41:23 PM »
Are you guys able to see the menus? It might be specific to a certain theme, but I tried to look on another browser with my test account and it seemed the problem was there too...but I was unable to look up the theme since I couldn't get to the profile.

Technically it should only be the theme where I was uploading as I imagine a single action caused the problem--which should not have happened given what I was doing! I think I might have made some typo during the process.

But let me know if you can see everything without a problem.

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« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2019, 04:49:58 PM »
Not really. I can only see "MLC Home Blog Forum". The post button, etc. also do not show. There are three vertical bars where it used to be and each thread page number do not show, just a green small square, etc.
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« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2019, 04:55:10 PM »
Thanks. Too bad, but that does confirm my own experience. Thanks

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« Reply #35 on: April 07, 2019, 09:16:05 PM »
/Themes/default was damaged, uploaded backup from 8-11-18, switched all users to Curve, damaged files are in /default.sav.  You have several variants of Curve MC, don't know which you were running, but they should be ok.

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« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2019, 09:50:44 PM »
/Themes/default was damaged, uploaded backup from 8-11-18, switched all users to Curve, damaged files are in /default.sav.  You have several variants of Curve MC, don't know which you were running, but they should be ok.

Well it at least makes sense that the problem was in themes since that was where I was uploading to wit ftp.

I was uploading the files and had also been looking at what was there with the idea of deleting those that aren't being used at all.
I redesigned the theme back in Aug/Sept and then set the original as the default since people were upset. I kept working on the theme and I think I have a design I like and to me it seems simple enough regarding the differences, but have been nervous to set it as the default since people were so upset last time. I had not yet done anything with the themes--removing or changing default. That was my next step when this happened.

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« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2019, 10:10:02 PM »


The theme seems similar, but the colours are too bright and shinny, as it has happened before. The colours before the problem were more matte. This ones make my eyes hurt and reading quite difficult. The font is also different, slimmer and the black is not as dark as before.

There are also different colours in several parts of the forum, fonts, buttons, etc. that were not there before and a few other layout issues.

The previous time something was done to lessen the brightness and have the font back to normal. 


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« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2019, 09:04:26 AM »
This is default Curve theme, restored in the interest of damage control.  Custom themes share most files from Curve, if it's broken they all break.  Whichever custom theme you were running can probably be restored and will run correctly.

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« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2019, 09:21:01 AM »
I had the previous green theme, the not shinning one. Now the board has blue tones, still too bright and shinny and the tiny slim font. I don't see how to restore it back to the one I had. Where can I find it?


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« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2019, 09:30:28 AM »
I can change it for everyone, but don't know which you were using and would rather leave that to RCR.  You can select a different theme for yourself in Profile -> Look and Layout.

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« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2019, 09:47:35 AM »
Thank you, Sir Osis.

Curve Multi Color, which was your original theme for a long time (green theme by default, with selectable color variants)

This one, I think, since it is the one mentioned when the forum changed last time, and then we were allowed to change back.

However, I do not see any Curve Multi Color theme in Profile -> Look and Layout. . Only Forum/Board Default, Alienine's set, Aaron's set, Akyhne's set, Aaron and Akyhne.
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« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2019, 10:25:54 AM »
Thank you, Sir Osis.

Curve Multi Color, which was your original theme for a long time (green theme by default, with selectable color variants)

This one, I think, since it is the one mentioned when the forum changed last time, and then we were allowed to change back.

However, I do not see any Curve Multi Color theme in Profile -> Look and Layout. . Only Forum/Board Default, Alienine's set, Aaron's set, Akyhne's set, Aaron and Akyhne.
Click on where it says change and select curve multi color

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« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2019, 10:32:12 AM »
I’m having real problems with the site!

I can’t even log out!

Not sure what to do or whether it will be fixed your end?!?

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« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2019, 10:34:21 AM »
Thanks, OP. Done.

Yesterday several of the features did not show, and today, after Sir Osis post, I also still couldn't see several things. Now it seems to be better.


Serenity, now I mostly see the forum fixed. Maybe it depends of browser/device? I am using Chrome on a laptop.


Oh, heck, when I log out I don't see the option I choose, but the blue bright one with slim letters.  :( "Can the Curve Multi Color, original theme for a long time (green theme by default, with selectable color variants)" be brought back?
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« Reply #45 on: April 08, 2019, 10:38:34 AM »
I’m having real problems with the site!

I can’t even log out!

Not sure what to do or whether it will be fixed your end?!?

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I changed your theme - did that help?

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« Reply #46 on: April 08, 2019, 10:50:08 AM »
Hello to D who kindly messaged me...

I can’t even respond to messages! I can’t find any way to fix this from my end!

So although I’m permanently logged in there’s really very little I can to participate on the site until this problem is resolved! I’m on my I phone which is the only way I use the site

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« Reply #47 on: April 08, 2019, 11:24:04 AM »
I can't see messages. I can't logout either.
If a MOD can log me out. Please, log me out, lol

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« Reply #48 on: April 08, 2019, 12:09:13 PM »
I can't see messages. I can't logout either.
If a MOD can log me out. Please, log me out, lol

I do not think we (mods) have the capability to do that.

I did change the entire forum to curve multi color, I am not sure if that will help anyone or not but at least the color will be green.

The forum seems to be working from a desktop computer for me.
It does not work as well from my phone, and to be honest never has.

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« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2019, 12:14:09 PM »
Everything looks good here, OP.  Color is back to normal too.

Watcher had issues too but used his tablet and it was fine.
Thanks Serenity that be me.   :)
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« Reply #50 on: April 08, 2019, 12:23:04 PM »
I did change the entire forum to curve multi color, I am not sure if that will help anyone or not but at least the color will be green.


Thank you. My eyes are grateful.  :) No more shinny colours and slim letters when logged-off.  :)

All seem to be working fine now from a desktop.
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« Reply #51 on: April 08, 2019, 12:29:52 PM »
It’s still mostly unusable for me.

All I can do is post on latest posts!

The colour is wrong and I can’t log out or do anything!

I think we had a similar problem not that long ago when some updates were done to the site!

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« Reply #52 on: April 08, 2019, 12:48:07 PM »
I think we had a similar problem not that long ago when some updates were done to the site!

We did, but OP set the board back to its normal theme and colours. The one that existed before yesterday's problem.

Maybe you need to log-out and re-start your browser?


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« Reply #53 on: April 08, 2019, 12:56:35 PM »
Sir Osis

Thank you so much!

Most things seem okay for me. I have used the new design theme since last Fall because it is what matches the main site. I seem to be back to it which is good, but I worked on it over several weeks and so may have made some continuing revisions after when this backup was made...but have not noticed. The menu buttons that went to the main-home and blog are no longer there, but those are the least of my worries.

So I have since gone back and added the new mentor ID badge again--no issues with that. I also need to re-add Silver's and it is not showing up in my current theme. I finally added it by uploading in cpanel (is that bad?) and it is still not refreshing to show the badge. Is it a cookie sort of thing?

What has been giving me a problem is sometimes when I try to get into my admin area (and perhaps others if I try) it says my session is timed out or a similar error. After a few tries and maybe a minute or so I get in. But every time I go into a little panic wondering if this will be the time it won't let me in at all.

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« Reply #54 on: April 08, 2019, 01:04:56 PM »
Hi Anjae,

I can’t log out unfortunately! There is no where on my screen for me to do this! I managed to log in but now I’m stuck here!

Everything is too big for my screen and it’s a blue/grey colour!

All options to do anything don’t exist on my screen

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« Reply #55 on: April 08, 2019, 01:08:05 PM »
Anjae she can't log off.
Neither could Watcher or Why us.

Maybe someone can log Serenity off.
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« Reply #56 on: April 08, 2019, 01:08:35 PM »
Oops.   ;)
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« Reply #57 on: April 08, 2019, 01:14:16 PM »
Hi Anjae,

I can’t log out unfortunately! There is no where on my screen for me to do this! I managed to log in but now I’m stuck here!

Everything is too big for my screen and it’s a blue/grey colour!

All options to do anything don’t exist on my screen

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Do things look different now?
I just switched your theme to the HS multicolor variant green as a test. It's what I'm on. Maybe the menu will show up.

Before this all went to pot yesterday my new design--final version was something like smf default and what most were using was forum default. I had changed the smf default to my design--just color changes I think, though Sir Osis had added the menu for all our themes.

I had a few versions as I was working and so this one I'm on now may have been a bit earlier version--only because I know it was not what I was using yesterday. But it appears almost the same.

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« Reply #58 on: April 08, 2019, 01:17:37 PM »
Serenity, try turning your phone off, really off. Then turning it on again and re-open the broser. If you know clean all the browser history as well. 
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« Reply #59 on: April 08, 2019, 01:18:56 PM »
All looks good now

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« Reply #60 on: April 08, 2019, 01:46:09 PM »
Thank you RCR,

It’s gone back to normal size although the colour is still odd but at least I can now do everything again now.

Many thanks

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« Reply #61 on: April 08, 2019, 06:40:19 PM »
I do not think we (mods) have the capability to do that.

Login is maintained by cookie on user's computer/mobile device.  No one here can remove it.  If your browser is in privacy mode (it should be), closing it will delete cookie, else you have to manually delete history to get rid of it.

The menu buttons that went to the main-home and blog are no longer there

You should see them in Curve MC.

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I also need to re-add Silver's and it is not showing up in my current theme.

That's usually caused by caching.  You can clear forum cache in Admin -> Forum Maintenance.  You can also clear your browser cache, or use different browser.  If server is doing any caching, images can be very persistent.

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I finally added it by uploading in cpanel (is that bad?) and it is still not refreshing to show the badge. Is it a cookie sort of thing?

Uploading with cpanel filemanager is no different from ftp.  Nothing to do with cookies.

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What has been giving me a problem is sometimes when I try to get into my admin area (and perhaps others if I try) it says my session is timed out or a similar error.

That's probably a server issue.  Hasn't happened to me.

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« Reply #62 on: June 15, 2019, 09:34:37 AM »
Disclosure: I am a tech-dummy.

It’s taking ages to open anything on HS right now.
Slower than a tortoise.
I’m not having any trouble with other websites. 
Is anyone else having the same problem?
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« Reply #63 on: June 15, 2019, 10:35:44 AM »
Well, what da ya know, it’s back to normal speed.
Apparently, the solution was to ‘complain’ about it. 
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« Reply #64 on: June 15, 2019, 01:31:17 PM »
Getting really slow page loads, 500 error on first login attempt.  Contact host support, this is a server issue.

You're currently running in php 7.2.19, logging a lot of errors (currently 16,506,635 in log, you're logging over a half million per day).  Your _log_errors table in database must be enormous.  SMF 2.0.15 supports up to php 7.1, you need to downgrade to 7.1 in cpanel (I no longer have access).  Don't think that's causing lag, but doesn't help.

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« Reply #65 on: June 15, 2019, 01:53:23 PM »
Thank you SO, though I have no idea what you are talking about. 
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« Reply #66 on: June 15, 2019, 02:02:18 PM »
RCR will know (if your kids don't ;)), hopefully she'll be back on today before it gets any worse.

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« Reply #67 on: June 15, 2019, 06:10:04 PM »
Thanks Sir Osis,

I did notice the slowness today too but it seems better now.
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« Reply #68 on: June 15, 2019, 11:19:26 PM »
Sorry, I might have an idea...
I've been working to switch the blog to the same host as the forum. I first rebuilt it because I couldn't migrate it--the host was unresponsive and the backups corrupt. So I now have the blog ready and am attempting to take backups with a plugin and they are aborting--just one area, I've got enough, it is only plugins that are not backing up and since it is rebuilt I can just reinstall them and spend a few extra hours with some things I already recreated, but I am working with tech support for the plugin to avoid that.

That may be straining the resources.
I made a mistake when installing the blog to recreate it. One of those silly things--sometimes the cursor jumps and the wrong things gets clicked...well that happened. I was trying to install wordpress in a folder called test and instead selected the main root domain. this forum is in a folder off that root--another reason for possible backup issues--it was backing up too much stuff. i've been working with tech support for the last few days--a few hours each night and some mornings on online chat.

I think I'm at the end. Chat hit a wall and needed to send my issue to additional support and they will email me. I'm hoping for a response tomorrow or since it's a weekend, maybe Monday. Once that is resolved I may have the blog back up quickly. Some pieces won;'t work yet. I need to reconnect all the subsription stuff--which I learned has not worked for months! UGH

But I am so excited that the blog is almost ready to be functional again. It's been a nightmare off-and-on for over a year. I've changed the colors slightly--just switched to a green that is more muted and matches the theme I use here for continuity.

Some things here are not working right now either. There are some images that I use here that are stored at the blog and those are not working and should be fixed once it is located at the correct url. The theme I use has a header there. Most are not on it now, but once things are settled I need to switch it to the default theme, as that was my intention for it.

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« Reply #69 on: June 15, 2019, 11:20:28 PM »
Forgot to add... I just changed the php to 7.1.

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« Reply #70 on: June 16, 2019, 07:44:07 PM »
Forum is still lagging badly at times, it's intermittent, page loads slower than yesterday.  Deprecated errors stopped around 02:08 forum time, guessing that's when you downgraded to php 7.1.  I've cleared forum error log and server error_log in /forum.  Your error_log in root is almost 2.5 gb, that's awesome.  Don't have anything that will load a file that size, but wouldn't be surprised if Wordpress is generating all those errors.

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« Reply #71 on: Today at 10:12:14 AM »
It should be done!
I have uploaded all of the blog backups. I just did the last one which had the media files and expected it to slow down everything for hours and lock me out of all sites and it did not! It went smoothly and frankly, I am rather surprised.

The blog is up and running, but some little pieces still need to be connected. The n=sign up forms at all sites for the blog are not yet connected, so no one can sign up, but I will work on that tonight and each night this week until I get it done.

 

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