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#50: October 31, 2018, 12:10:37 PM
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Re: No Contact IIII
#51: November 11, 2018, 09:36:30 AM
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Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

Women are NOT rehabilitation centers for badly raised men. It is not your job to fix ,parent, raise or change him.
You want a partner not a project.

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Re: No Contact IIII
#52: November 11, 2018, 10:46:35 AM
Definitely working for me post divorce.
No point talking to anyone who has no basic respect or concern for your thoughts or life.
His loss truly....I'm a decent person who was a good friend and a pretty good wife who never tried to hurt him and the only person who knew those 20 years, and the rather lovely man he used to be.
And lets me focus on my recovery from the tsunami he unleashed!
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H diagnosed with severe depression Oct 15. BD May 16. OW since April 16, maybe earlier. Silent vanisher mostly.
Divorced April 18. XH married ow 6 weeks later.


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Re: No Contact IIII
#53: November 11, 2018, 11:04:09 AM
Good Treasur good for you.
It is truly his loss. Were any of us perfect?..no but neither are they.

You sure do have that right, they have no basic respect or concern for our life or what we might have to say to them anyway. They aren't going to listen.So why waste the energy?

This is something I wish I had done right off the bat on 2011. I would have saved myself so much heartache.
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There are two ways of spreading light:
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Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

Women are NOT rehabilitation centers for badly raised men. It is not your job to fix ,parent, raise or change him.
You want a partner not a project.

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Re: No Contact IIII
#54: November 12, 2018, 03:05:41 AM
And the scientific reason why contact can hurt us...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness
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Re: No Contact IIII
#55: November 12, 2018, 04:42:12 AM
That article makes sense.
Also I've read people can get trauma bonded to the person who caused the trauma.
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There are two ways of spreading light:
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Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

Women are NOT rehabilitation centers for badly raised men. It is not your job to fix ,parent, raise or change him.
You want a partner not a project.

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Re: No Contact IIII
#56: November 12, 2018, 07:45:04 AM
Found online..more like a boyfriend/girlfriend break up..same basic idea.



The No Contact Rule


Whether you want to get over him or get him back … there is one thing you need to do. You need to make a clean break and cut off all communication with him. You need to follow the no contact rule. I’m sure you’ve heard about this before… and for good reason, it works!


I get e-mails almost daily from women telling me they started following the no contact rule and now their ex is begging for them back! (Whether they should take him back or not is a different story …)

After a breakup, your ex is essentially heroin. He is a drug and you are a junkie and you’ll do anything to get your fix even though you know it’s terrible for you.



Maybe he broke up with you … you are in literal agony… then he messages you a few days later wanting to get together, and boom! You’re high and it feels amazing. But then he’s gone again and you go through withdrawal. But then he texts you! Ahh, sweet relief … again followed by crushing disappointment.

He can give you a your “fix” through many means- calls, texts, face time, snapchats, tweets , meeting for coffee, meeting for some in-between the sheets action.

Just like any junkie, you need to detox in order to recover. And the best way to detox is to quit cold turkey. You will never move on with him right there in front of you. You also will ruin your chances of getting back together and making it last this time.

When a relationship ends, all the reasons it ended are still there. The issues didn’t magically repair themselves. If you get back together because you miss each other nothing will be different and you’ll just go through the same cycle of breaking up and making up… and this can go on for years! Who has that kind of time to waste?


Having a no-contact period will give you perspective and clarity, and these two things give you power. They give you the power to choose what is best for you. Maybe you and your ex will get back together … maybe not. But the answer is definitely not if you don’t go through a period of no contact.




What does no contact mean?

It means no contact. I recommend a period of at least four weeks. Yes, I know that can feel like an eternity, but it works if you work it.

During the no contact period, you are to have zero contact with your ex:

No texts
No calls
No Facebook messages (and no liking his status updates or commenting)
No Snapchats
No tweets
No going out of your way to stage an “accidental” run-in with him
No responding when he contacts you
No going places you think he might be
No stalking his social accounts (OK, this technically isn’t making “contact” but it’s just as self-sabotaging, so we’ll through that in)
(For a more in-depth discussion on the no contact rule, make sure to read this article: Everything You Need to Know About the No Contact Rule)

Now that we’ve discussed why you need to do it, let’s talk about exactly why it works.

Reasons Why the No Contact Rule Always Works:

1.Gives You Space to Detox
“Growth is painful. Change is painful. But nothing is as painful as staying stuck somewhere you don’t belong.” – Mandy Hale


A breakup can be a highly emotional experience, you need time and space to detox from it all. You need to feel your feelings, you need to mourn, and you need to just be with yourself.

It’s a process. And this process will be interrupted if your ex keeps coming in and out of your life. Don’t fool yourself: this will mess with your head.

It doesn’t mean he’s trying to mess with you intentionally. He’s probably also hurting and he misses you and he wants to make sure you’re OK.

Engaging with him is the surest way to not be OK. You need time to process.

2. It will give you perspective

Where feelings are involved, it’s almost impossible to be objective. You need the flames of the feelings to simmer down before you can start to see things clearly.

With a little bit of distance, you’ll be able to see where things went wrong. Breakups usually have a surface reason and a real reason. A relationship doesn’t unravel overnight, it happens steadily over time and is the result of a buildup of problems, resentment,  and negativity.


You didn’t break up because you had a big fight … you had a big fight because there was a lot happening beneath the surface causing the relationship to disintegrate, and this manifested as a big fight, or maybe several fights.

There were underlying issues — you may not even know what those issues are until you step outside of it. Distance will give you objectivity. This is impossible to obtain when you’re in a highly emotional state.



3. It will help you get over him

As they say… time heals. But as I say, it isn’t a passive process, it’s active. Time won’t heal anything if you continue to see and speak to your ex. The combination of time and space is what heals.

The no-contact period gives you time to go through the stages of grief, and this is a necessary part of healing. You can’t get over him if he’s right there in front of you. All you’ll focus on is how badly you want him and how much you miss him … and not on whether he’s the right guy for you, which is what you should be thinking about.

You may discover unexpected things. Maybe you notice that you actually feel happier and more like yourself without him in the picture.

The point is, you will never extinguish your feelings for him if he’s right there lighting the candle every time it blows out.



4. You can open yourself up to other guys

You might not be ready to date at this moment, but you’ll be better able to see opportunities when your ex isn’t blocking your view.

When he’s out of the picture, you open up space for someone else to step in. Even if you don’t actually pursue anything, you will be better able to see what’s out there.

You may find you get excited about the prospect of dating someone new… of being in a healthier relationship.

And I just want to share a quick cautionary tale. Many moons back, I was entangled in a toxic relationship … and was devastated when my toxic partner broke up with me, although I could clearly see that it wasn’t working. He suggested we go through a period of three weeks of no contact. After that, we would reassess.

Three weeks?! That’s like an eternity! I felt like I physically wouldn’t be able to function without him in my life, I didn’t know how I would survive.

The beginning was tough, but soon enough I started to feel really good, I started feeling almost like myself again. I felt free and like a huge weight has been lifted. And in an unexpected twist, I started dating someone new. He just kind of plopped into my life and he was wonderful. He was nice and normal and stable and so, so sweet. But almost as if my love life was rigged with an alarm, the second I was happy and moving on, Mr. Toxic Ex swooped right back in. He missed me. He needed me. He wanted to see me. And so I gave in … because I couldn’t handle the hardest part of the no contact rule… the part where he reaches out to you.

Long story short, I ended up getting back together with Toxic and it was a huge mistake. The second breakup was even more devastating and did a huge number on me. Don’t make this mistake!


5. You avoid the endless on/off relationship cycle
You might think it’s no big deal to meet up with your ex for a drink … or to show up at his door when he drunk dials you at 2 am … but these are massive mistakes.

For one, you risk getting into what I call a post-relationship relationship, which I consider to be the worst type of relationship. You talk sometimes, hang out sometimes, but you’re in relationship no-mans-land.

None of the issues ever get solved. You get into a pattern of breaking it off, missing each other, getting together, feeling high on infatuation, realizing (again) that it isn’t working, breaking it off, and repeating the cycle. This has toxic written all over it.

You need a break. You need to process. You need to move on. If you really want him back, you may mistakenly think that you’ll have a better chance if you go to him when he wants to see you but the opposite is true.

You’ll have a better chance of getting him back if you move on, if you heal yourself. If it didn’t work, it won’t work unless something significant changes … and change takes time and takes work. Missing someone isn’t enough for a relationship to last.



6. Gives you the chance to put the pieces of your life back together

Think of yourself as Humpty Dumpty after his great fall. You need to put yourself back together.

You need to get back in touch with who you were. It’s easy to get lost in a relationship, especially a bad relationship with all its drama and highs and lows and fights and makeups.

Chances are things were bad for a while, and chances are it had you feeling really bad. You will keep pouring salt into the proverbial wound if you stay in touch with him.

You need to spend time working on your relationship with yourself. This is the key to having successful relationships with others. And this just won’t be possible if you’re still in close contact with him.


7. You need to remember you can live without him
I know how you feel. It literally feels like he’s oxygen and you will cease to exist without him. But you will go on! And life will go on. And you can live without him. You might even find you live better without him.

But you won’t know that unless you experience life without him. You need to re-learn what you’re made of, you need to smile again without him. You need to stand on your own and sure enough, you’ll find that you can function, possibly even better than before.

MORE: Why the No Contact Rule Works Every Time

8. Prevents you from seeing what he’s up to… because sometimes you really don’t want to know
So let’s say you don’t follow the sage advice in this article and you stay in touch with your ex … and he starts seeing another girl. How does that feel?

The answer: crushing.

The only way you’ll know what he’s up to is if you don’t follow the no contact rule, or if you do, but you break the rule within the rule, which is not to check up on him on social media.

Even if he isn’t the guy for you, seeing him with another girl will be profoundly painful. If you follow the no contact rule, you spare yourself from this sort of agony. You keep the focus on you, not on him.



9. It gives him the space to miss you

Really, the no contact rule is about you and about re-connecting to yourself. An added bonus is that it will make your ex miss you.

But please don’t use it as a means to get him back. Can it work? Yes, absolutely, it does all the time. But it will only really work if you do the work. As in, you work on yourself during this time and gain all the benefits of the no contact period.

We all have a tendency to idealize the past, to romanticize what we don’t have anymore. When you’re not a presence in his life, this is what will naturally happen. But again, it won’t work out unless things change and change starts from within.

It starts with you because you’re the only person that you can control. So take the time to work on yourself, to get back to yourself, to just be by yourself, and if he reaches out when the no contact period is up (minimum of four weeks), then you may have a shot the second time around.



Final thoughts

I’m not saying it’s impossible to get back together with an ex. I mean, I married an ex boyfriend, so I’m all for making it work the second time around! But in order to get him back, you have to first get over him. It may sound counterintuitive, but that’s just the truth of the matter.

And if he doesn’t want to get back together after a period of no contact… then at least you’ve already started the moving on process. You may even discover that you don’t want to get back together with him after your period of no contact. No matter what the outcome, it is always in your favor and that is why the no contact rule always works.
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Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

Women are NOT rehabilitation centers for badly raised men. It is not your job to fix ,parent, raise or change him.
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Re: No Contact IIII
#57: November 12, 2018, 08:13:34 AM
Also if anyone wants to do any posting about ways of reconnecting or what's involved in breaking no contact..please by all means, do some research online and start another thread. :)
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There are two ways of spreading light:
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Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

Women are NOT rehabilitation centers for badly raised men. It is not your job to fix ,parent, raise or change him.
You want a partner not a project.

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Re: No Contact IIII
#58: November 12, 2018, 08:33:58 AM
Actually, that's a really interesting idea, init....maybe one for the vets....good ways to break NC, what made you do so, or how to judge if you should respond if they break NC?

I'm not standing, nothing left to stand for. But I loved my h and would want to be kind if he hit the buffers. I don't expect to ever hear from him again and have no intention of contacting him, so more intellectual interest for me rather than useful. But when I have thought about it, my criteria is pretty simple....can't talk to anyone who shows no respect or interest in my thoughts or life, xh included. No benefit to me in doing so. Not sure how I'd know if that had changed in him though, what someone would say or do even....probably should be grateful it is unlikely to be a leftover MLC challenge for me :)
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« Last Edit: November 12, 2018, 08:40:29 AM by Treasur »
T: 18  M: 12 (at BD) No kids.
H diagnosed with severe depression Oct 15. BD May 16. OW since April 16, maybe earlier. Silent vanisher mostly.
Divorced April 18. XH married ow 6 weeks later.


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Re: No Contact IIII
#59: November 13, 2018, 08:52:54 AM
I am pushing for the best no contact I can. I will answer if he asks a question about the kids but anything else he will gets crickets. He seems to have this fantasy that we can all be one big happy family and I have had enough. Now, if he was to contact me and it was pleasant then I will go with the flowbut if it turns fowl again then we will proceed as we were. Unfortunately, I can’t break all ties with him like I would like to. I am like you treasur and am not standing anymore. He has crossed to many lines and I’m not sure I can go back to that but for the kids sake I would like to be friendly with each other.
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« Last Edit: November 13, 2018, 08:54:36 AM by OneHotMess »
M 40
H 41
He moved out May 21,2017
Ow 41( his 1st cousin) moved her in May 23, 2017, she went back to her husband Oct 2017
Ow moved back with her 2 kids Jan 1 2018 even with courts cutting his visitation with his kids because of it
Ow moved out again Dec 2019 and is back with her husband Jan 2020
T-19 yr M-14 yrs
S14 & D88
BD  February 12 2017 & April 22 2017 (signs of MLC since 2015)
I filed for divorce June 2 2017 for protection- final hearing on our 20th anniversary (July 11,2018) divorce was final August 9, 2018

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