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Ira Glass replayed a segment on infidelity from 2009 this am on NPR.  The second segment is a most interesting memory of what looks to me like a woman's MLC.  Listen to it--it's so sad, but interesting.  The whole show is good, if you want, but sad if you are not in a good place, spoiler alert, I know, but I don't want anyone to be surprised.  The segment is about a woman and her parents, and you can find her at rubywright.com. 
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All of you should listen to this...really good...and reeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaally interesting.  I don't buy that the first woman has entirely taken responsibility for her affair but...it DEF sounds like MLC...she explains the fog and not remembering but I still get the sense she's blaming her M.  I love this American Life and I don't get it on my NPR station here so this was a treat.

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OK, I must be stupid, I've clicked all over the site and can't get anything to play.
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Thanks for the link and for introducing me to 'This American Life'. I'm Canadian, and haven't heard the show before. I downloaded the iPhone app and so now have a fresh stock of well produced broadcasts to listen to.

The show was really interesting. I could relate to the first story. The woman in that story bonded with her OM over the death of her father - just as my wife did in her EA. I thought it was unusual that her husband and the OM remained friends!!! It was also interesting that it was their daughter that developed the documentary! From what the woman was saying, she missed out on 5 years of the daughter's teenage growth. I thought that I could detect some (understandable) loss between mother and daughter ... and almost an unspoken request for forgiveness from the mother. As Buggy noted, I think the woman stopped short of taking responsibility.

I could also relate to the man in the piece - in what he was saying about their 'love life'. Prior to BD our love life had been going downhill, though we had actually been trying for a baby! Or should I say I was hopeful for a baby, but my wife, it turns out, was undecided. I blamed myself too for problems in the bedroom, but as the saying goes, 'it takes two to tango'.

I could relate too to the brilliant story about the guy being attracted to the French girl. I thought that it was a very honest piece - recognizing very serious themes in himself beneath the wit and class of his writing - about how he fought back and didn't succumb to the affair, but was scared of commitment.

A few years ago, a woman that I worked with invited me to spend the weekend with her. We were close at work, and I admit that I was attracted to her - she was smart, funny, good looking, energetic, hard working and 7 years younger than me. I walked away. I had my wife, my best friend that I wouldn't do that to. I had two children. It was a temptation though. I remember going home that night and being especially glad to hold my family. Almost relieved.

About a year later the woman left to work in another city. On the day she was saying goodbye to everyone, she came by my office and gave me a very, very long hug. Raised a few eyebrows. Looked me in the eye and told me some really nice things about myself.   

I'd helped her in her work. I was her manager, and her mentor. She was a great worker - very reliable. I valued my whole team and I helped each one of them. If they worked well, it reflected on our team - we could take on more work, better projects ... we could enjoy our work more. I helped them frame their work - understand and push themselves and push their place in our company. With that woman, I guess maybe we both took something more from each other, though I genuinely never intended for it to become something beyond a working relationship. It can be a fine line. 

I wonder what it is that stops a person from crossing the boundary, or as the woman in the first act suggested ( and I've heard in other stories ) makes a person feel entitled to the new relationship. When I first started therapy, my therapist talked about 'unmet needs'. I think we all have unmet needs at different stages of our lives. I don't think that our spouses should be on the hook for them ALL. I think it is harsh on a LBS for them to be told they fell short of meeting the needs of their spouse and the penalty is divorce. There likely is some degree of truth in a spouse not meeting the needs, but that should be fixable, forgivable.

In my case, my own childhood was not idyllic ... but I absolutely know that I was safe and I was loved ... cherished ... and I think that's a vital ingredient. I know that my wife literally spoke the words to me: 'I don't know if my dad loved me, I'll never know'.

Thanks again for the link.

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THE wife of Celtic coach Alan Thompson yesterday claimed the couple's 15-year marriage has collapsed because he is having a mid-life crisis.
Heartbroken wife of Celtic coach Alan Thompson blows whistle on split and blames his midlife crisis...

Joanne, 41, revealed their "idyllic" partnership came crashing down six months ago when Parkhead manager Neil Lennon's right-hand man told her he had met someone else.

The mum-of-three said she had no choice but to split from him after the bombshell - because she could never be the type of WAG who stands by their husband, such as England skipper John Terry's wife Toni.

And she hit out at her ex, who has been seen enjoying nights out recently with a 34-year-old former model and one-time Britney Spears lookalike.

Thompson, 37, insisted the break-up was "amicable" whe he confirmed the couple were divorcing last month.

But Joanne, who lives in the couple's mansion in Morpeth, Northumberland, with their three young kids, said: "It's over because I knew he had met someone else.

"I haven't a clue how long they have known each other but he told me in December.

"I don't know and don't care how long it has been but he can do it in his own time now.

"I'm not going to be a Toni Terry because there's more to life than money and fame. It's about self-respect and dignity. If I can walk away with that then I will be happy.

"I'm going to write a book about this and I want every single other footballer's wife in the world that's had it done to them to stand up and applaud me."

Former ballet dancer Joanne has not spoken to Thompson since serving him with divorce papers in the middle of last month.

He moved into a bachelor pad in Glasgow's west end, while Joanne stayed in the family home with their children, aged 13, 12 and eight.

Joanne, who has been married to Thompson for nearly 15 years, says he is having a midlife crisis.

She added: "I will never understand it, I will never, ever get my head round what he has done to me.

"We were idyllically married. I will never discredit my marriage. He is having a midlife crisis so he can get on with it.

"He had absolutely everything in the palm of his hand - a loyal, faithful wife and three beautiful children.

"I never looked at another man, he never looked at another woman. I'm not making excuses for him but all the fame and ego has gone to his head."

Despite her heartbreak, Joanne, who still drives her husband's white Range Rover with his personalised registration, has ruled out a reunion and says he is no longer the man she married.

She said: "There's absolutely no way on God's earth I'd take him back right now. I'm divorcing him but I'm not divorcing 'my Alan'. He was a lovely, good, sound man. I'm divorcing another man altogether."

The Hoops coach issued a press statement in April confirming that he was splitting from his wife: "Amicable divorce proceedings are going ahead. I want to get on with my own life with dignity and privacy."

He has recently been spotted out on in trendy bars and restaurants in Glasgow with his new companion.

After entering a competition for a modelling contract 12 years ago, the former model told a paper: "My secret to looking good is smiling and living life to the full. Life's too short to worry. You've got to enjoy yourself."

Thompson signed for Celtic in 2000 for £2.75million, after stints at English club. He left in 2007 for Leeds United but returned to Glasgow last June.

The Celtic coach, who has been seen as a loyal and trusted lieutenant to boss Neil Lennon during the club's stormy season, declined to comment yesterday.

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The best thing about banging your head against the wall for so long is that it feels so good when you finally stop...

BD 1/16/10
D Final 7/21/11
exH married OW the next week and moved across the country to be with her... 

LL CHOSE to live happily ever after...

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I'm divorcing him but I'm not divorcing 'my Alan'. He was a lovely, good, sound man. I'm divorcing another man altogether.
This is exactly how I feel - not the divorcing part (yet) but the "my H" part.  People think I'm a bit looney when I distinguish between the two.  My counselor in particular wanted to make sure i knew they were the same man, and the best I could say was "yes and no".  People ask me what if I get this guy back and am unhappy.  I just really don't think this guy is coming back.  My H might, but not this guy, so I don't have to worry about it too much, I figure.
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The MLCers are unrecognisably different though. My H behaves in a way he didn't behave to anyone (not just me!) for the 15 years before the MLC started to take serious hold. He is rude when he was always a gentleman. He is thoughtless when people used to comment on how thoughtful and analytical he was. He was a family man and now he rarely contacts his children outside of scheduled visiting times. I don't understand why people are so quick to believe that a person could have a permanent personality shift, but not accept that it might be temporary and resulting from a crisis?
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And the model:
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My secret to looking good is smiling and living life to the full. Life's too short to worry. You've got to enjoy yourself."


I wonder if she would say that if she had three small children and a WAS?
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Work in progress (none of us are perfect)

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And the model:
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My secret to looking good is smiling and living life to the full. Life's too short to worry. You've got to enjoy yourself."


She also feels life is to short to worry. Well she has stolen someones H to live the good life. What goes round comes round. IMO if she smiles to much she will have lots of wrinkles lol.

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