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Meet-Up Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« on: January 08, 2019, 11:07:32 AM »
Hi all, on my thread we've been talking about having a meet up in Tuscany where I live. The idea would be to rent a place based on how many we are. Male LBSs also welcome.

I'm near Florence. Options would be in the countryside near Florence, which would make us within easy driving distance to Florence and Chianti. Otherwise we could find a house closer to the coast and be about an hour away from Florence but closer to other old Tuscan towns like Lucca and Pietrasanta (lots of sculpture there) and the Cinque Terre for anyone who's heard of them (little old fishing villages on the water).

I would say we can look for houses in general and just pick the one we fall in love with?

We can talk details like car rentals (shared) once we have an idea of numbers.

Timing: I can do April, June, August, September or later. I would say we meet for a week?

Let's get this rolling!
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Re: Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2019, 11:16:10 AM »
OMG, if only I could, this would be an absolute dream come true, lol. (I'm in the US) Hope some folks are able to meet up!
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Re: Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2019, 11:23:22 AM »
Hi Milly,
I'm up for it, finally something "close"! I so want to go to Florence.

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Re: Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2019, 11:27:39 AM »
Yeah, yay count me in  :D :D
I vote for close to you/Florence....and a wine tasting hosted by Milly the Magnifico  :)
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Re: Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2019, 11:42:05 AM »
I would love to tag along...….PG xxx

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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2019, 11:46:14 AM »
Would love to milly!! Need recommendations on good pricing for airfare. 
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2019, 11:51:21 AM »
Sept may be better for me
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Re: Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2019, 12:20:56 PM »
My husband and I were planning to possibly taking a trip to Italy (His parents were born in US but are 100% Italian) in the spring. Maybe if the timing is right I could meet for a day?
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2019, 12:26:39 PM »
I would like to come since male LBS-ers are also allowed  ;D
Wanted to start travelling this year to start GAL and meet some people. Italy is a lovely country and it would be nice to meet some fellow LBS-ers.
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Re: Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2019, 12:28:05 PM »
I definitely want to go to Cinque Terre!  I vote for getting a house near there.
What is the best airport to fly into in Florence?  Looks like there are 2 or 3.

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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2019, 12:37:23 PM »
Sounds great!! I'll have to see if I can afford it, etc but definitely will try my best to make it!
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Re: Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2019, 01:15:12 PM »
I will be watching this carefully! I obviously cannot promise I can be there, especially given my current financial strictures ::) but who knows?

My passport is up to date and its been over 46 years since I stepped a foot in Italy ;)
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2019, 01:31:35 PM »
Don’t post much but read everyday. I am definitely interested. Was in the process of booking a trip to italy but have been undecided about where to go. Not bothered where or when but would love to join one (or maybe two) of Milly’s wine sessions. Count me in.

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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2019, 03:32:20 PM »
That sounds fab, I’m interested in joining you, it’d be lovely to have something like this to look forward to ;D
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Re: Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2019, 03:47:05 PM »
Oooh, I'm getting excited. I think that everyone should post their best months, give more than one option if possible.

 Airports are Florence and Pisa. It's possible to fly to Bologna, too, but that makes things more complicated.

If we choose a house nearer Florence, we could take a day trip to the Cinque Terre, which is about 2 hours away.

This could be amazing. Look into flights and let's see how many of us we can get together.
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Re: Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2019, 03:59:53 PM »
Any month bar April. Prefer June or Sept
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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2019, 05:14:17 PM »
I would also be interested if there is room.  Probably June would be my first choice.

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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2019, 05:59:53 PM »
Yes. June or September. I remember Florence being really hot in the summer.

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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2019, 06:21:37 PM »
Is there a special viewing of the pink fridge?

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Re: Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2019, 07:15:50 PM »
I'm interested...and June would be best for me. Ideally, the third week? That's getting a bit specific...but that's the best combo of availability and cost of flights in my case.

I use an app called Hopper to look for fares, but I can't guarantee it's the best way to do things. It is easy though.

How many days would the LBSs be gathering for?

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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2019, 08:49:50 PM »
September may be OK for me.
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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2019, 11:34:00 PM »
June would be best for me, September is good too

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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2019, 11:53:34 PM »
I would love to be involved but i have two Festivals planned in june and 3 weeks in the UK in July. I dont think that my Holidays will Stretch that far.
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« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2019, 01:48:26 AM »
All months are an option for me. June would have my preference though.
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« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2019, 02:11:16 AM »
Any other chaps want to come and play?
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« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2019, 07:30:07 AM »
Yes yes yes! June or September will work for me too.
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Re: Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2019, 07:57:42 AM »
Ooh, Tuscany, wine, and I don't have to explain why I know people from all over the world.  ;D

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« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2019, 10:06:06 AM »
So excited to see how many people want to come! We can always get 2 houses, so keep coming!

Whyus, why not tell her the truth? We're your support system!

Treasur, if we're near, you can come see my pink fridge and the little hayloft I'm loving!!

Enyo, we can definitely schedule in a wine tasting!
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« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2019, 12:41:55 PM »
2nd half of june is perfect for me!


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« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2019, 01:30:41 PM »
Following...D17 has booked her gap year to Europe and is very keen for me to visit her in September, so I’d be keen to meet up if it happens...organise without me, and I’ll see if the stars align!
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« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2019, 02:22:32 PM »
I'll already be in Tuscany June 9-15 (with D10 and our dog, and my cousin's family) and was planning on staying in the region for another week with D10 and dog anyways.  Therefore, the week of June 15-22, or part of it, would actually work very well if it's ok for you that I would be bringing my daughter along -- and doggie... 

I was wondering whether other LBSes will be bringing their kids.  It may be comforting for our children to realize that other kids have had a similar experience, with one parent leaving the family quite abruptly.  D10 told me that other kids, even those whose parents are divorced, just don't get how she's been feeling inside.
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« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2019, 03:22:55 PM »
I will do my best to join in!  September works foe me.
Thank you, Milly, for starting the thread!
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« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2019, 03:25:39 PM »
At this rate we are going to need to rent a Palazzo!

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« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2019, 05:39:42 PM »
I would love to come if finances can stretch. Sept best for me but I have 3 wks leave in August but may not be able to get my dad to kid and dog sit. I will try my best though xx
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« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2019, 06:25:18 AM »
Bumping up this thread in case not everyone had a chance to see it.

Right now it looks like June and September are the preferred months. It also looks like there's a preference to being closer to Florence. Prices in June will be higher than September. I'll start taking a look.

Puzzled, I agree that our kids could do with mixing with other kids like them although I don't think there will be any at this meet up so not sure it will be a fun environment for a child. It might be an idea to organize something another time with our kids. I have often thought it would be good for our kids to have a Kid's MLC forum, but I doubt they would post because they have so much other stuff going on. An alternative would be to come see us for a day . I don't know what the others think.
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« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2019, 09:48:01 AM »
Everyone, three things. First, June and September are the preferred months, with September have a slight lead. Prices for houses in September will also be much better. Can we do a recount on who would come if it were September? Best if the first half of the month since we want to be able to sit outside both at home and at cafés.

Secondly, I need to know if any of you are willing to share a room. As I searched the internet for some houses in my area, they tend to have 5 bedrooms, sometimes 6 max. Some rooms have twin beds.  Clearly anyone who shares a room would pay half the amount of the person with their own room. Based on your answers, I'll be able to understand whether we need a house or some other form of accommodation.

Thirdly, how many days do we want to do?
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« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2019, 10:36:12 AM »
Sept fine with me. Happy to share a room. Think a week would be lovely (actually 6 months would be even lovelier lol)
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« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2019, 11:00:17 AM »
I'm with treasur.
Lets just live in Tuscany away from all the drama.

But september would be fine with me to. I would also like it to be for a week. Happy to share are room but don't know if any more male LBS-ers will come. If not I am fine with a single room also.
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08-2016/12-2016 OM1 EA with 21y old client (he turns her down)
10-2016 MiniBD - Wants to leave but changes her mind. I just saw it like she being angry and calming down again
08-2017 BD1 - ILYBINILWY speech, OM2 which she knew for 1 week and had seen for just 1 hour
11-2017 - Moved back in
05-2018 BD2 - Seeing OM2 again.
06-2018 - I leave the house
08-2018 - OM2 out of the picture
08-2018/11-2018 - Goes on 8 Tinder dates sleeps with one. (OM3)
12-2018 - Wants to reconnect.
xmas 2018 - BD3 says she can't do it and confesses to OM4
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« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2019, 11:17:35 AM »
Yes September for me too—happy to share a room.
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« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2019, 12:13:41 PM »
Sept is better for me.
However, I now have two important events coming up and not sure of the dates yet.  One milestone bday and the other a wedding.
I am determined to still make this trip.   :P
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« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2019, 04:14:02 PM »
I might be able to come, and yes, happy to share a room.
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« Reply #41 on: January 17, 2019, 02:01:32 AM »
I'm thinking that it might be better that those who truly can come, pm me so we can also talk about prices.
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« Reply #42 on: January 17, 2019, 02:11:44 AM »
Have we decided on when?
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« Reply #43 on: January 17, 2019, 10:54:37 AM »
We're talking September.
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« Reply #44 on: January 17, 2019, 11:06:10 AM »
Great! That increases the likelihood of attending the meet for me.
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« Reply #45 on: January 17, 2019, 11:34:27 AM »
Me too. I'll pm you Milly.
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« Reply #46 on: January 17, 2019, 12:33:23 PM »
I PM'd you.
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« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2019, 04:57:13 AM »
Everyone, we're going with September, one of the first two weeks. We're talking a 7 day stay. Several of you have pm'd me already, thank you.

I want to set up a whatsap group so everyone can read the questions being asked so please pm me your phone numbers!

Right now we have 1 male who wants to come. Any other males want to come, too?
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« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2019, 06:59:38 AM »
I’d love to come if there is still room.    September works for me and I would really enjoy meeting everyone. 

I’ll PM you Milly. :)

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« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2019, 07:45:57 AM »
It's nice to see people are still finding this thread! I have 'talked' to Anon now, for those of you who might wonder.

Right now we're talking 7 days in the first half of September. I am still looking into houses to rent. We have about 8/9 people saying they are coming. Some are in the US, others in the UK. Others in other places but UK and US seem to have the most if anyone wants to coordinate their travel arrangements.

We will do some day trips within the area together and a wine tasting for those interested. If people want to take trips to places further away, they would need to organize this themselves. It's easy though to do everything online here nowadays.

Even if we fill up the initial accommodation, we can always find alternative places nearby for others who might decide later. So at whatever point you find the thread, let's talk about it!
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« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2019, 04:47:14 PM »
Hello Milly,

I am new to the board, but am writing now because I am intrigued by Tuscany.  My therapist told me in the beginning that the only way I could heal would be to buy a wide brim hat and some stilettos and go to Tuscany.  I guess she read the eat, pray, love book.  Anyway, I would probably be on the alternate list if there is one and not part of the core group.  I am not sure yet if I can run away to Italy.  But, I can dream.  Thank you.
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« Reply #51 on: January 26, 2019, 05:00:37 PM »
Hi Maleficent, you're in time to join the group. No definite house plans yet, we've just started talking. We're thinking mid September. Pm me.
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« Reply #52 on: February 02, 2019, 04:56:11 AM »
I was just telling Maleficent about the movie you guys should watch. 

I would highly recommend, if you ever get a chance "Under the Tuscan Sun" starring Diane Lane.
Based on Frances Mayes' 1996 memoir of the same name, the film is about a recently divorced writer who buys a villa in Tuscany on a whim, hoping it will lead to a change in her life.
(She was a LBS)

The movie was filmed on location at Villa Laura in Tuscany, which is a holiday rental today.
Beautiful scenery.  Do you by chance know that place, Milly?

I so wish I could afford to meet everyone there.  Maybe next time.

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« Reply #53 on: February 02, 2019, 05:02:52 AM »
Hi Thunder, I've read the book and seen the movie. No, I haven't seen the house although it's about an hour away. Her story of renovating the house is pretty much what everyone faces here in Italy when they decide to restructure a house. Quite a nightmare.

Really wish you could join us in September.
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« Reply #54 on: February 02, 2019, 05:13:22 AM »
Thank you, Milly.

I have a family reunion in Vegas next year that I have to save my money for, otherwise I would love to go.

I'm sure you guys will have a great time.   ;D
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« Reply #55 on: February 02, 2019, 05:26:45 AM »
Tuscany? Do you all know how enchanting and appealing that sounds to a frozen Canadian with grey wool socks, on snow "lock-down" ?. Just to say "Tuscany"...is sooo warm and enchanting an adventure !   You are lucky ladies !!
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« Reply #56 on: February 02, 2019, 05:40:48 AM »
A few lucky gents, too.   :)
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« Reply #57 on: February 02, 2019, 09:08:27 AM »
Thanks Barbie. Wish you could join us!
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« Reply #58 on: March 17, 2019, 08:31:34 AM »
Update on Tuscany meet up. Everyone who has joined the whatsap group, I am going to post information now about accommodation. I am posting here because I have a sense that not everyone is checking their whatsap account. If someone has not been included, please pm me.

If anyone new wants to join there is still time. Just pm me.

The date we've settled on is the week of 14-21 September. This time of year is the end of summer heading towards autumn. The weather will be mild, possibly some hot days, possibly some cloudy. Occasionally, could be warm enough to swim.

Because we have members coming from Europe who have bigger budgets than the ones coming from across the ocean, I'm finding it hard to accommodate everyone. Since I think we all do want to meet up, I have decided to settle on the location for you as this really influences the price.

You all decided to be in the countryside near Florence. Chianti is one of the areas just outside Florence. 'My' village is Greve in Chianti, which is the main village in Chianti Classico. Because of this, it's the most expensive. Looking at accommodation options in that area, costs were coming to at least €600/person.

I decided to look a little further from Greve but still in Chianti. The hamlet is called Badia a Passignano. It's on the crest of the hill above Greve. There is an ancient abbey, a couple of restaurants, and tons of vineyards. It's where Antinori make their Chianti Classico wine, if you're into wines.

Because this is away from the main roads, prices are much more reasonable, but the way I see it, we just want to have the opportunity to get together and then we'll be doing day trips any way, so we'll probably be happy enough at the end of the day to just stay put in our little houses, or Agriturismo (rooms/apartments in a rural complex).

Even though the location is not on the main roads, it's one of the most beautiful spots in Chianti, and in a good position to get onto a fast road to Florence or Siena, which I really suggest we do a trip to, as well.

I looked up houses on the airb&b site, since these are the most reasonable. I don't think we can beat these prices and what we would get for the money.

Please, if you are still interested in coming, go to the whatsap group and go look at the houses. Some have 3/5 bedrooms. They are mainly rooms with a double bed, but there are some with twins. I know some of you were willing to share to reduce the costs.

I think the first thing to do is to go look at the houses and speak up about how you feel about it. We really need to get booking. If others want to find a hotel or an alternative, you can search it out yourself by just putting in the name of the location.
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« Reply #59 on: March 17, 2019, 08:50:23 AM »
Makes perfect sense, Milly.
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« Reply #60 on: March 17, 2019, 04:23:46 PM »
Sounds amazing! I’ve been holding on to see if the stars would align, but I finish 3 weeks of annual leave on 13/9, so I’m out! Not meant to be this time
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« Reply #61 on: March 17, 2019, 05:41:54 PM »
I would loved to go but still with a young one, D6!
Makes it difficult!

I am sure you are going to have a great time and lots of things to share!

If everything goes right and you want to keep doing it, next year could be México! It would be a pleasure to have you here! we have great places ti visit too.

I have a very good friend that owns a travel agency who can arrange great deals for everybody no matter where you come from.
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Hmmm..Yo... food for thought.   :)
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« Reply #63 on: March 17, 2019, 06:43:50 PM »
I just found out that my company is going to send me to France in about 3-6 weeks.  I would most likely get a few days to go exploring on my own wherever I want.  I'll be watching this thread in case a meet up happens soon.  :D
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« Reply #64 on: March 18, 2019, 03:49:51 AM »
Nah, the meet up is in September but if you're in my area, I'd love to have a coffee with you. I'm near Florence, Italy.

CLG and You, wish you could be here, too. Yo, Mexico sounds so exotic. Why don't we try to do that next year.
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« Reply #65 on: March 18, 2019, 10:01:32 AM »
I’ll let you know once I know the date for sure.
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Nah. Hope you make it to the Sept meetup in Italy. 
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« Reply #67 on: March 19, 2019, 05:30:23 PM »
Yo, Mexico sounds so exotic. Why don't we try to do that next year.

Great! And September is a good month! Good weather and not expensive because is low season!

After Tuscany we can start planning!
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« Reply #68 on: March 21, 2019, 10:56:58 AM »
So I am way late to the party... :o No idea how I missed this discussion. I blame study to be fair!

What's the deal with all this? Is it all booked and already sorted?

If not...

I'd be interested in coming along, and happy to bunk up with someone or sleep on a couch or whatever.  ;D

September is good cuz I shouldn't have any study and can get plenty of notice for childcare etc.

If I am too late to the party just say, don't wanna cause a huge bother!

Assuming all you refined ladies want to hang out with a weirdo like me that is!
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« Reply #69 on: March 21, 2019, 11:10:04 AM »
Yeah, Morte does Tuscany - fab idea   ;D....will that mean that Beast does childcare for a week lol? (Or the kids do Beast-sitting maybe?)

PM Milly and she can fold you in to the What's App group for all the details!

Not sure that Beast will be doing a jig about that ha ha....
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« Reply #70 on: March 21, 2019, 11:27:54 AM »

Assuming all you refined ladies want to hang out with a weirdo like me that is!

Mmmmm Hmmmm. I'm super refined. Right up until the 2nd glass of Rose. Then not so much. Very excited you are coming Morte!
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« Reply #71 on: March 21, 2019, 11:41:54 AM »
Yeah, Morte does Tuscany - fab idea   ;D....will that mean that Beast does childcare for a week lol? (Or the kids do Beast-sitting maybe?)

PM Milly and she can fold you in to the What's App group for all the details!

Not sure that Beast will be doing a jig about that ha ha....

He will be thrilled to stay in the house....probably need MIL help because a week is too long...but also spinning like a top about where I am!


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« Reply #72 on: March 21, 2019, 01:25:21 PM »
So I text him to ask if he would be open to watching the kids at house, taking them to school etc for a week in September.

He said ''Sure no problem.'' ''Where you going'' ''Will you bring me a present?''
I said ''Contemplating Italy'' ''I'll bring you a rock''

Someone remind me to find a rock when I am there!  :P
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« Reply #73 on: March 22, 2019, 04:49:17 AM »
Hahahahaha!!! Maybe we should all find a rock to keep as a souvenir!
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« Reply #74 on: June 10, 2019, 08:10:28 AM »
Hi everyone, we have a lovely big house booked and part paid for September 14-21. I just want to make sure that we all know who is coming. Please can the confirmed people say so on here and say whether you have paid the first deposit already.

If there were others waiting to hear if there was still room, please say so now. I'm not sure we do still have room to take anyone in but let's find out once we know.
Thank you!
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« Reply #75 on: June 10, 2019, 08:15:27 AM »
Hi Milly

I'll be there, yes I have paid the first deposit.

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« Reply #76 on: June 10, 2019, 08:26:53 AM »
I'll be joining.
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« Reply #77 on: June 10, 2019, 08:29:06 AM »
I'm coming but owe you the first deposit (sorry, think I just forgot...LBSbrain duh) but will do tomorrow.
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« Reply #78 on: June 10, 2019, 09:23:04 AM »
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« Reply #79 on: June 10, 2019, 09:43:26 AM »
Yes!!!
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« Reply #80 on: June 10, 2019, 09:51:53 AM »
Yes, paid deposit. Plane booked.
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« Reply #81 on: June 10, 2019, 10:47:26 AM »
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« Reply #82 on: June 10, 2019, 02:34:03 PM »
I’ll be there too and 1st payment is made.   8)

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« Reply #83 on: August 14, 2019, 12:22:07 PM »
Hi all, we have a spare spot on our Tuscany trip. One of our LBSs had to renounce as they are having major problems MLC related.

We have a room, double bed, in a villa in Tuscany, dates: 14-21 September. If anyone is interested please pm me!
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« Reply #84 on: August 14, 2019, 04:45:51 PM »
I can’t go this time but you guys are going to have a blast..,

Have a glass (or a bottle) of wine for me!!
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« Reply #85 on: August 14, 2019, 05:14:08 PM »
Yeah nah....I'm so bummed.

I could pull off the $, but S16 is still in school :(

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Re: Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« Reply #86 on: August 14, 2019, 05:26:14 PM »
So jealous, have a blast!
Married 8 years at BD, together 16.
BD March 2015
H moved out July 2015
I found out about OW March 2016 (She went to high school with H, long distance EA since September 2014, became PA November 2015)
H moved 1100 miles to live with OW June 2016
I was diagnosed with advanced breast cancer June 2017
H became a vanisher

Offline Didot49

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Re: Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« Reply #87 on: August 14, 2019, 09:54:53 PM »
I am interested. I will pm you Milly, and try to figure out the logistics. I live in the US, but I'm British. I have been to Tuscany before, and loved it.
H52
M50
Married 28 years, together 35.
BD 12/15 ILYBINILWY
Affair discovered 12/17
moved out 12/17
Trying to stand for the marriage.
H mentioned Divorce twice, no action yet.

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Re: Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« Reply #88 on: August 15, 2019, 01:51:58 AM »
Am literally green with envy but wish all of you lucky ones that are going a fabulous time.

Enjoy yourselves to the full, have loads of fun and laughs and don`t forget to raise your glasses to the rest of us, whilst you`re enjoying a glass of ice cold prosecco served directly from Milly`s infamous pink fridge :)


« Last Edit: August 15, 2019, 02:00:41 AM by Loyal »
Me: 56 (when he left in April 2017)
MLCer: 57 (when he left in April 2017)
Together since: 1986
Married: No
Children:No
Begin of P`s MLC: around Spring 2010 with breaks inbetween when he behaved like his pre MLC self.
OW: YES , he`s living together with an old spinster who just happens to live up the road. They definitely weren`t together when he first left,  he was living in a flat around the corner from her that belongs to a guy he got to know through walking our doggie. She had been chasing after him for years but he hadn`t the slightest interest in her as she is definitely not his pre MLC type  but as with most MLCers. she was the first to cross his path and he took the bait.
Animals: 1 doggie, belongs to both of us but MLCers has abandoned him too.

Offline Yellowroseoftexas

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Re: Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« Reply #89 on: August 15, 2019, 06:56:37 AM »
Would love to be there by can't, really watching my money.  Can't want to hear about the fun. 
Married 21 years
Bomb 💣 Drop O7-2014
Husband Left 09-2014
Divorce 2015
S26; D22; D19
No contact 2015-2018
Contact and Positive communication-01-2019
Unsure if he’s dating
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“I walked a mile with Pleasure;
She chatted all the way;
But left me none the wiser
For all she had to say.

I walked a mile with Sorrow;
And ne’er a word said she;
But, oh! The things I learned from her,          
When Sorrow walked with me.”
Robert Browning Hamilton

Offline MillyTopic starter

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Re: Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« Reply #90 on: August 15, 2019, 10:38:36 AM »
Thank you all, we have filled our spots.
Married 1989, together since 1984 
BD May 2014,
D25, D22, S15
OW Physical Affair same one. He and she said she turned 34 the month of BD. She turned 52 this year.

Offline CanLetGo

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Re: Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« Reply #91 on: August 15, 2019, 05:08:38 PM »
I’m close, but not close enough! Think I will be in your city around the 30th August for a few days Milly, hopefully a quick catch up then 🙂
Me 45
H 49
3 young adult kids
BD December 2013, left home August 2014, D June 2018
OW 17 years younger

Online Whyus

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Re: Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« Reply #92 on: August 15, 2019, 11:52:36 PM »
have a drink for me and have fun! Cheers, im a little jealous  :)
Married - 19,5 Years pre BD
Together - 21,5 Years
Me: 46
W: 46 (Acts 25)
BD 1: 10.01.2017
BD 2: 24.02.2017 OM 28 (now 31) Trainings partner. Is tolerated by LaFamiglia
2 Sons - 20 & 21
1 Dogs and a cat.
Own home . Sold!
Divorce Date 21.08.2018
T1  http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=8671.0

Offline MillyTopic starter

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Re: Meet up in Tuscany. Who's interested?
« Reply #93 on: August 16, 2019, 12:46:37 AM »
CLG, if you're close please do contact me. We can meet for a coffee, a drink whatever you have time for.
Married 1989, together since 1984 
BD May 2014,
D25, D22, S15
OW Physical Affair same one. He and she said she turned 34 the month of BD. She turned 52 this year.

 

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