[Velika]

The one that stands out the most was “this would never have happened if you made me a cup of tea in the mornings” the strange things was I Used to....

I think there may be a thread on the trivial reasons someone with this condition gives for leaving, but this quote made me think of it. My ex told our young son that one of the reasons he left was that I did not cut up fruit for him.*

* Factually incorrect.

[Jackolar12]

There’s no depths they will not stoop to Velika to justify their betrayal of us, it shows their immature mentality in MLC. Also if that’s all they got on us we can’t be that bad.

[Jackolar12]

You really can’t make what they say at the time up Velika there should be a sticky thread at the front of the forum to warn newbies of the script they use during bomb drop. I know us old timers can laugh about things now but at the time it is soooo hurtful.

[Velika]

You really can’t make what they say at the time up Velika there should be a sticky thread at the front of the forum to warn newbies of the script they use during bomb drop. I know us old timers can laugh about things now but at the time it is soooo hurtful.

Yes. I personally feel that MLC is a type of physical event of the brain and this is why we see such a striking behavior pattern. If a certain part of the brain is damaged or impaired, you see very very similar behavior to MLC.

I recently read an interview with a psychologist who said she was amazed by how every narcissism story sounded the same. There is a reason for this and that shows why therapists with no medical training should not be on the front lines with this. Neither should attorneys who also lack mental health training.

The people who have failed us are not our unwell spouses. They are the people we turn to for help when we see that they are not well, who don't listen.

[Anjae]

Yes. I personally feel that MLC is a type of physical event of the brain and this is why we see such a striking behavior pattern. If a certain part of the brain is damaged or impaired, you see very very similar behavior to MLC.

Yes. And not exactly.

For me MLC is a neurological/neurobiological/biological issue. I am not certain what you mean by a physical even of the brain. MLC involves depression. Of what type exactly we do not know. High Energy MLCers and Wallowers have very different behaviours. It is more likey the issue is chemical (including hormonal, cortisol is the hormone responsible for stress) that physical in the sense of a permanent brain change.

If the brain is damaged or impaired it is temporarially since MLCers come out of MLC. It is not permanent, irrecuperable brain damage.

I recently read an interview with a psychologist who said she was amazed by how every narcissism story sounded the same. There is a reason for this and that shows why therapists with no medical training should not be on the front lines with this. Neither should attorneys who also lack mental health training.

I don't know where you are, but here most therapists have no medical training. Laywers are lawyers. When a lawyer needs to have someone assesing mental/neurological illness (for me mental illness is neurological illness) they get a therapist and/or a psychiatrist  and/or a neurologist.

You know, even having medical training may not mean much, since most with medical training, psychiatrists included, know very little about the brain. Psychiatrists still tend to work as they did years ago. Which is not a good thing.

[Jackolar12]

Velika I believe the menopause/andropause causes them to flip a hormone driven neurological switch inside their head which contributes to full blown MLC, together with a desire for a simpler life and FOO issues ( poor coping mechanisms).

[Milly]

Following along, Velika, and interested in the discussions on your thread. We really have discovered very little about MLC. We are familiar with the symptoms now, but still not much else.

[Standing Strong]

What made you think it was a MLC?

The night of BD, that's how...... W begging and pleading for help, sobbing like I've never seen...... and then *poof*..... in the span of a breath.... mid-sentence..... the woman I knew and loved was gone.
The face changed and went from panic to completely relaxed and yet also made of stone. The voice changed and went from a higher pitched stressed to a utterly calm lower tone. The words went from the person I knew to one of absolute malice. The eyes lost their sparkle and the light behind them went out.... the pupils changed and I met shark-eyes for the 1st time.

All in the span of a moment..... no warning..... no goodbye.... just here and then gone.

Her cries were replaced by my own that night. The most horrific night of my life.

-SS

[Disillusioned]

Wow SS,
That's a harrowing account.

[Jackolar12]

Wow SS, that really is mind boggling to witness the moment of metamorphosis, no wonder you cried it’s heart breaking knowing you can do nothing to help. Those shark eyes are really creepy to see I remember them well.