[marvin4242]

Yes thank you, makes perfect sense!

[marvin4242]

So a not so surprising study results but data is always better than opinion and guesses. I for one have no idea why these basic public health ideas and measure are in any way controversial.

“ COVID-19 Study Links Strict Social Distancing to Much Lower Chance of Infection”

https://healthcnd.com/covid-19-study-links-strict-social-distancing-to-much-lower-chance-of-infection/

[marvin4242]

Found this interesting plot of data comparing mortality from flu and pneumonia vs Covid-19. The spike of pneumonia that parallels Covid-19 is probably due to the fact that it is a common complication. So this is educational for those who do not believe this pandemic is more serious than a seasonal flu. Part of how much worse this is in the US has been because of our uncoordinated and ineffective response in containment, but it still shows that Covid is real issue and not a made up idea.

https://i.redd.it/yjvlz964ctl51.png

[OldPilot]

I am still dealing with post covid symptoms for my hero nurse.

She got covid on April 15 and is long over the worst of the symptoms but still can not think straight and has now lost her nursing job in the ER.

So we have found out that many people do not fully recover from this disease.

I am not sure that anything is happening to fix this situation and I wonder if their will be a cure.

[marvin4242]

OP: I really hope and believe there will be. There are more and more reports of long term effects, more and more understanding of them. And as we find these out treatments will become available. I hope its a case of so much being learned so fast, and that most of the initial focus was on the acute mortality. Now the focus has shifted more to the long term treatments.

I know a couple of other people who are still struggling with recurring or long term effects from Covid. I believe even some of the data from the vaccine trials may give information about how and why some side effects linger. And this should also help with longer term treatments.

This virus really seems to trigger the immune system in ways that are more challenging that other ones. Specially the common cold and flu. Yet another reason for everyone to take this seriously, and to follow guidelines and science.

But I can only imagine how frustrating it must be for you and people in the same boat.

[Treasur]

I hope this makes for useful reading, OP. https://www.healthrising.org/blog/2020/07/24/open-letter-covid-19-long-hauler-me-cfs/

As someone who years ago suffered a post-viral arthritis illness followed by ME symptoms, I found that most doctors were pretty rubbish bc the symptoms did not seem to fit their diagnostic framework or the bit of the body that was their specialism. So I needed to be my own advocate and build my own recovery plan. In my case, I think it took about three years of gradual improvement....yoga and fish oil and sleeping like a cat little and often lol were my secret powers...before I felt normal again. So there is hope and small pockets of post-covid support/research, but I am very sorry that your lady friend is suffering this.

[OldPilot]

Thank you both - yes a good article.

One bright spot is the Mount Sinai Health System in New York City, which has opened a Center for Post-Covid Care.
The center is monitoring roughly 1,000 Covid-19 patients with initially mild to moderate cases.

She is already in this group and I hope it can do something but so far no.

[xyzcf]

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map

John Hopkins COVID 19 United States cases by county. You can zoom into different areas and see where the cases are higher than other states. Good tool .

[marvin4242]

Old Pilot: saw this in The Guardian this morning, there is no direct link, but more evidence that there is a lot of ongoing work now on the lingering effects of Covid-19. I am pretty sure this will not be a “forgotten” issue by any means.
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More than half of patients and staff with Covid-19 monitored by an Irish hospital suffered persistent fatigue in the aftermath of the initial disease, according to a new study Friday highlighting the “significant burden” of lingering symptoms, AFP reports.

“Whilst the presenting features of SARS-CoV-2 infection have been well-characterised, the medium- and long-term consequences of infection remain unexplored,” said Liam Townsend, of St James’s Hospital and Trinity Translational Medicine Institute at Trinity College Dublin.

The study, which tracked 128 participants at St James’s Hospital, found that 52 percent reported persistent fatigue when they were assessed an average of 10 weeks after “clinical recovery” from infection, regardless of how serious their initial infection was.

The preliminary study, which has not yet been peer reviewed, included 71 people who had been admitted to hospital and 57 employees of the hospital who had mild illness. The average age was 50 and all participants had tested positive for Covid-19.

Researchers looked at a variety of potential factors, including the severity of the initial illness and pre-existing conditions, including depression.

They found that it made no difference whether a patient had been hospitalised or not. However, they did find that women, despite making up just over half of the participants (54%), accounted for two-thirds of those with persistent fatigue (67%).

Those with a previous history of anxiety or depression were also found to be more likely to have fatigue.

The authors said the findings showed that more work was needed to assess the impact of Covid-19 on patients in the longer term.

[xyzcf]

Dr Abdu Sharkaway


EXCELLENT article full of great reviews of evidence for different modes of Covid-19 transmission.
Instead of buying more Lysol, invest in an air purifier, comfortable 2-ply cotton masks and a fire pit or outer heater to socialize safely this winter.



https://elemental.medium.com/the-most-likely-way-youll-get-infected-with-covid-19-30430384e5a5