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I could blame the universe or the planetary alignment or whatever else - I have had a few days of head shaking and not all to do with the MLCer. LOL

I had woken up this morning after having a very odd dream about the MLCer. I know why it probably was in my head and fortunately it didn't rattle me terribly when I woke up, but I did note that during the dream itself, I was clearly uneasy.

The dream was about Xh in the midst of one of his epic cleaning frenzies. He was telling me he was moving out and then in the next breath he was in the house and all calm and settled back into a routine like nothing happened. And then a day later back to more cleaning out.

The thing is, this was in fact somewhat accurate in the sense that he got so he was that unpredictable. I was just going day to day wondering what I was going to encounter. I realize now that it was not healthy for either of us. Him, I don't know if he has or ever will resolve whatever made him behave that way. For me, it was the constant feeling of not knowing how to behave or what the day would bring. This went on for months even prior to BD. There was no reasoning with him or getting him to face his demons. Furthermore, by then, I had convinced myself in the midst of what often became gaslighting on his part, I was the problem and only I could fix it. I tried everything I could imagine and would carefully listen to his complaints trying to twist myself up into knots to behave the way he wanted. Even if I managed to correct something the script would change even sometimes within the same conversation. It was madness, but only now do I truly recognize that I entered into his mad world thinking I could control it.

I knew this morning though something about the dream was different. I wasn't shaken by the dream. I don't like having those dreams, but I wasn't crying or even emotional. It was more of a "huh" moment, although I wondered why it had entered my mind. The artwork was certainly the obvious clear line. There had been more though that occurred the past few days to see why maybe it all just showed up in dream form.

S had a side job to do on Sunday that was in Xh's neighborhood. D was working and I accepted an impromptu invite to go to dinner with a friend. I checked in with S when I was getting ready to leave to see if he was going to be home before I was, as my friend had received some upsetting news during dinner. I knew somehow that I was meant to be there for my friend at that time. It was an odd set of circumstances and I couldn't just leave her.

S answered and he had stopped by Xh's who decided to take him out for dinner and then asked him for a favor for the following night. Seems he had an overnight date and needed psycho dog watched. I know who the date was with - don't really care, but it was evident by where he said he was going location wise. I shook my head and rolled my eyes as my friend giggled - she needed a laugh and I was glad I could provide the entertainment. S then told me that Xh wished me a happy birthday to which I simply said thank you and hoped that was the end of it, tbh. Nope. Xh was in the background and wanted to have S tell me how he knew it was my birthday. In my head the only thing that I could think of was the fact that it is because that is when his M's funeral was held many years ago. No, that wasn't it. Then I knew. Sigh. It made S laugh, but Xh only told him part of the story. What S was told as I listened was that when we were first married Xh had received a briefcase that had a combination lock on it. His sister had bought it for him and she thought it was funny to change the combination randomly before giving it to him and he couldn't open it. I spent Christmas, just trying different combinations until I figured it out. Then I reset it - to my birthday. It made him laugh at the time because it was with good reason.

I have never made a big deal out of my birthday. Even as a kid. It has to do with not wanting to be put in the spotlight. It's nice to be acknowledged but it has never been something I get hung up on. I won't say I don't like having people tell me they are thinking of me or if they bring me a gift, but I don't get warped out of shape over not having some big to do. I always enjoyed when the kids would make a fuss when they were little, because it was more about how much they liked the whole hoopla, not because I had to have some celebration. Xh knew this and it was always this way.

The briefcase combination, as I later explained to S was because Xh and I dated for 6 years before getting married. His one B had a birthday the day before mine. His SIL had one a week before mine. His step mom had one a couple of days before mine and another B had one a week after mine. Those days he remembered very clearly. Mine - he always forgot and that would have made me laugh, except he would confuse my birthday regularly with his X GF's. Consistently. S laughed and said he could see why that might aggravate me. I told him, I actually laughed about it at the time with the briefcase and said that would hopefully fix that issue. S mentioned Xh told him those were good memories. Yah - they were good memories. But they are just that now. I am not wanting to go back.

There is a certain sadness about those happy memories being lost to history, but not because I am longing to go back there. It is more of a sadness that I will never understand what happened to the man that was.

What I had waited to hear come out of Xh's mouth was a different story. One that got so twisted in the MLCer's brain.

When MIL died, the kids were really little. They came for a small time during the calling hours before the service, but we decided that it was best to take our kids and the other kids that age to my SIL's house where my sister's friend babysat for us that day. The kids spent the day with their cousins and making new memories. MIL would have wanted that. After the service, XH drove home with two of his B's and my SIL. Others were going to come to our house later, but I offered to pick up all of the kids and bring them to the house. It was my birthday that day. I said nothing. It never entered my mind. On the way home S mentioned to me that my SIL said it was my birthday and were we going to have a cake. I explained to him that it was a day to celebrate his grandmother and if they wanted to celebrate my birthday we could do it the following weekend. I would have happily just moved on from the day.

When I arrived home, there was a cake for me and my BIL and a big to do. My SIL had made a fuss about it and they went so far as to go out and buy gifts. I frankly found the whole thing uncomfortable, but I went with it, as they seemed to want to move on from the sadness and heaviness of the day. Xh insisted he wanted to do this for me. That was at the time.

When MLC hit, it would go down as one of the many times that apparently I was selfish and made the day about me. He would bring that up continually in his monster moments. I even recall asking my SIL (the one I still talk to), who was there, if she remembered that and she laughed, saying they were the ones who orchestrated it and Xh was the ringleader.

I went off to work yesterday just thinking how bizarre the past couple of days had been in regards to these little moments. I was just getting ready to leave work when one of my students from last semester - one of my best students, who is incredibly stoic - called out my name. I had just seen them moments before and gave them some feedback on a piece they were working on for another class. I turned and saw this kid just sobbing and quivering. It threw me - I wasn't prepared for that level from them. Out it came. They had to leave immediately and they have been dealing with this all of their life - a parent with mental issues. I knew which parent they were close with. I knew it wasn't this one. Now I knew why. I could feel tears welling up in my own eyes. It was probably one of those moments that some would say was a no-no, but I somehow knew they needed a hug. I let them soak my shirt with tears and calmly asked them what they were working on and what needed to be done for that class for the day. I found myself doing just what my professor years ago did for me and said I would personally call their professor and explain the situation. They were to leave and go take care of themselves first. I told them I know what it is like to have someone in your life that is trying to pull you into the tornado, told them to worry about their own health first.

I made the call. I knew all too well that professor is tough on the outside, but not unreasonably so. They also know the student and knew this was out of character. The professor immediately emailed the student explaining we had talked and extended the deadline for them based on our conversation.

I received a call from the student later in the day thanking me for being in their corner and it helped that I seemed to understand.

I thought about it last night and maybe that is part of the positive of having gone through the MLC BS. I still would not wish it on anyone, but it has made me more aware of there are some things you cannot change. You can only make changes in your own behaviors and you can have love and compassion, but there are going to be things in life you may have to step away from for your own well being, no matter how sad it may be.

This morning, framer reached out with a surprise that changed what our initial plans were for the returned artwork. The artwork had some notes scribbled on the back that the framer photographed before assembling it and there was also additional notes on the front, which we decided to leave showing. It changed the frame size so it fit in the original frame, which the framer repaired. We both agreed that in some ways, it seemed even more appropriate that part of the original framing remained. It is part of the original history, since my F was the one that had it initially framed in the first place. They sent me a photo of the newly assembled piece and now I just have to figure out where to hang it.

It dawned on me that artwork is very much like my life. I have lost parts and recovered some. I have a history I can't just erase, and I don't want to forget it all. It happened. Yet, I can breathe new life into it and still hold on to some memories. The artwork won't go back into the wine cellar, as I think it needs to be somewhere that reminds of just that when life seems to kick me. I want to believe that piece ended up back in my possession for a reason.
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What a wonderful post MD,

I love the idea of the artwork retaining some of it's original housing, much like when you see tastefully modernised buildings in the continent when a wing has been added to a really old church or similar . It feels totally right, new sitting next to old, as a nod to the past and a look to the future too.
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S answered and he had stopped by Xh's who decided to take him out for dinner and then asked him for a favor for the following night.
So, the patterns (do something nice and then ask for something in return) continues..... Nice to know MLCxH is consistent in at least that....

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Xh insisted he wanted to do this for me. That was at the time.
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I even recall asking my SIL (the one I still talk to), who was there, if she remembered that and she laughed, saying they were the ones who orchestrated it and Xh was the ringleader.

Hmmmmmm Projection anyone? Since it couldn't be all about him.....

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It dawned on me that artwork is very much like my life. I have lost parts and recovered some. I have a history I can't just erase, and I don't want to forget it all. It happened. Yet, I can breathe new life into it and still hold on to some memories. The artwork won't go back into the wine cellar, as I think it needs to be somewhere that reminds of just that when life seems to kick me. I want to believe that piece ended up back in my possession for a reason.

That sounds like a) a plan (to put it somewhere visible as I do not expect that you are spending all THAT much time in the Wine Cellar) and b) GOOD karma that it found it's way back to you and that the original frame could be salvaged/repaired...
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Thank you, Biscuit & UrsaMajor.  :)

I picked up the framed work on Friday and I am really very pleased with the results. It is not about having possession of it and feeling as if I have won some battle, because that certainly isn't the case. In fact, like so many of the MLC experiences, it cost me money, which made me laugh a little as I paid the framer.

It has never been about money for me. That is not it at all. It has at least in my case been a bit of a joke since I often made decisions full well knowing that it might cost me money to keep my own sanity when it came to dealing with the MLCer.

As I explained to my sister yesterday, the financial hit I took when Xh went into MLC was rough and continues to be a struggle at times to overcome, but that was never the true cost of his meltdown. That keeps bubbling up when I am the only one the kids can truly rely on to be there. S maybe has some of Xh's attention and Xh does help him from time to time, but when it suits him. D is the one most impacted by the lack of Xh's presence and right now, I wish he were at least involved somehow - for D's sake and mine to a degree.

This is not about wanting to reconnect or wanting what was. I accepted that is not possible and have happily moved on down a new relationship path. However, I sometimes wish Xh were involved from the standpoint that I am ultimately the one D comes to for things. It can be exhausting, particularly when she is dealing with stress and having her F around her would be helpful - if he were able to be emotionally. It is not about finances, but more that I realize that she is wired more like he is and it is why they understood one another. He would have been able to help her in ways I sometimes can't, simply because I just don't operate the same way, no matter how I try. That is not a criticism of D or Xh by any stretch of the imagination. D may be intense, but that I can navigate. It is that she needs organization and planning more than I do and if things don't go the way she planned, it makes her way more anxious than I get. My assuring her it will work out is not going to help her out.

I think in part it is because having been in teaching for so long, I have had to adapt the "monitor and adjust" lifestyle, since my classroom can change dynamics wise at a moment's notice. Little things can occur that have trained me to have to pivot in that moment. Pair that with my general demeanor, and I don't often get myself twisted in knots. That works for me, but not for most people.

I sometimes think people believe I am completely carefree and without some worry. That is far from the truth. I lay in bed at night sometimes hoping some magic answer will come to me about issues that arise. Those solutions rarely come at night and just make for me being overtired the next day or two. It is my ability to at least put on a good front sometimes that drives D nuts. D broods much like Xh and tries to figure out solutions, which is commendable, but sometimes there are no solutions beyond wait and see. That is a huge challenge for D as it was for Xh - letting it go and waiting.

So, the wait and see currently is that D starts graduate school in June. She has only received information about parking. Her housing has not been settled. Her loans are not confirmed, since it seems the whole FASFA applications are all mucked up and affecting everyone. It is a bit maddening, since there seems to sometimes be a disconnect when it comes to those things - I have worked in education long enough to hear it first hand from those I work with. It takes some of us pointing out that while the colleges let the students ride it out until monies come in, like in the form of they won't be billed for housing until money is released, for some it means there is not enough money for groceries or books, etc. D has money stockpiled, but that is weighing on her - fear that she will run out of money quickly and no matter how much I assure her I will help her out as much as I can, there is that looming stress. Especially since there are so many unknowns. We don't have a move in date nor does she have any idea of her schedule. D is working through it, but the unknowns are weighing on her and making her more than a little tense. There is nothing I can do or say. There is nothing more she can do, as she is doing all she can on her end - making sure she is set with immunizations and all of the necessary things that need done ahead of time.

Add to the mix, she longs for her F to call her and be so proud of her accomplishment. Being the only recipient of a scholarship is a huge achievement and it is one she deserves. She was already telling me that her first white coat ceremony is going to be in August and she had wanted certain people to be there. She mentioned to someone we know, (in front of my sister) that she has two cousins, and two aunts and uncles. Neither my sister nor I corrected her, but we both asked her later. She was very matter of fact about it. She counts BIL 2 and his wife in the mix, but as for others, my sister and her family are it. In reality, D has 8 other cousins and 8 other aunts and uncles, along with extended family on Xh's side. D said she doesn't count any of them, ever since they all disappeared after the divorce and chose not to really be involved in the way that they were when we were together. She isn't wrong. That has always bothered me that they disappeared from D and S's lives. Part of that was Xh's doing and his insistence that they take a side. I wasn't surprised, as they were told to take sides in their own parent's divorce years ago.

I just need to get through my own semester with final grades, etc and then hopefully, D has more answers. I have to admit, I am not really loving the unknowns myself when it comes to this issue. It leaves my month of May very vulnerable in the sense that I have things planned that I fear may get derailed. It also doesn't allow me to plan anything out that needs to be. Even little things such as I had an opportunity to participate in a large art exhibit. The problem is I can't commit to it based on when the drop off dates are, etc. It requires driving a bit of a distance and shipping the work is not an option I want to take, due to the location and the company - it is not a place that is open every day of the week. I have thought of other options, but the reality is, it is not something I can commit to this time and only because of the unknowns that are dictating D's moving out. It is frustrating for both of us, which is not helping the mood in the household.

I am coping by trying to spend more time working outside of my office. My remote class is being subjected to me being outside, either at the lake or on my back deck. Some have decided to do the same. I encouraged them to embrace the good weather, as long as they are able to focus and finish work. Some reached out and said that they felt so inspired and never thought about working outside on a project at a table as opposed to being at their desk. That is a plus.

I wish all of the feedback were like that, however it is still the end of the semester, so the usual things are coming all at once. I have countless meetings and events popping up this week. All good things, and enjoyable, but it makes it tough to find the time to actually do the necessary prep work and grading without putting in late hours. That is nothing new though.

I have my fingers crossed that D gets some answers soon. Xh - that is just something that is always going to perplex me. I can't fix it and I really only find myself thinking about it when it affects the kids and I am the one dealing with the fallout. The MLC gift that keeps giving.  ::)
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That is the truly a fact in this MLC mess if you have kids at any age and a father that has disconnected. My XH now has practically disappeared from his kids lives and my S31 just doesn’t talk about it, but of course it affects him. S31  I think understands something is wrong with him. D33 is definitely snooping and looking for answers. She would still pick him over me in a heartbeat. I think it shows her codependency that she needs to look into why she longs for those that hurt her and doesn’t fully appreciate those who are there for her. In the end when the kids are affected and we are the only parent left we pay in so many ways. We are left to try and be both parents and give normalcy in an abnormal situation and frankly it is impossible . So, we do what we can, but it is always the constant reminder of the situation you cant step away from. I think that even when we can disconnect ourselves from the situation we cant  ever truly, because we have kids hurting right in front of us.
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Married July 1991
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Aug 2023 XH moves w/o OWife
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The whole "waiting for answers" thing can be really nerve wracking, especially for those that have to have everything planned in advance.... I tend to be more flexible and can adapt but not everyone is like that
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I had a very odd week. The beginning of the week literally began with a "bang" in the form of a blown tire. Very long story, but suffice it to say, I found myself just shaking my head. I was in disbelief and should have been angrier about it all, but I dealt with it and moved on. After all was said and done, all the thoughts that went through my head were it  "could have been worse" and "$h!te happens". Yet, it was just the start of the week and it set the overall pace and tone. I was exhausted last night and found myself drifting in and out of sleep from 7 pm on as I sat with D.

Wednesday, I was fortunately working remotely, as my car sat in the repair shop. I was able to tackle some work and the weather was good, so I took a couple of breaks. The dog was happy to have me around but wasn't thrilled with my need to be in the office. She was wanting to go take advantage of the good weather.

I took her for a walk and noticed the new neighbors, who had begun moving in over previous weekend had made significant progress. I stopped into see my parents on the way back in part because the dog won't let me just walk by there. She has her routine and it gives me an excuse to check in on my parents without them thinking I am checking up on them.  ::)

My F was't home at the time I popped in. That would mean later I would be prompted by the dog to stop again when we walked, because she loves my F. I was able to share with my M that the new neighbors do in fact have little kids, which made my M happy to know. She has been so very sad about their long time friends moving, even though they see them from time to time, but it is different no longer seeing them at their former house. My parents and that couple moved in around the same time, so for over 50 years they were neighbors and close friends. The fact that little kids are there, made my M smile saying it will be nice to hear laughter and have a new family growing up there.

I left their house and my other neighbor was outside. I haven't seen her in ages. Her H has been a phantom and she shared he was not well and had been in the hospital. We were chatting when a car drove by. I had my back to the car and my neighbor waved but she had a funny look on her face. Out of her mouth came "I have no idea who that was". As the car drove past, I couldn't see who it was, but then it clicked with me immediately. It was Xh. Not the usual day he comes into town - and no, I don't really pay attention, but for the past few years it has been on a Thursday that he consistently had client meetings in the area. That had been that way before MLC.

In fact, tbh, I don't know what Xh's "new" vehicle looks like. I know vaguely what he drives, as S told me it is an older Jeep Wrangler and it is black, but those are a dime a dozen around here. And, normally on Thursdays I am at the college when he would be driving by - if he came this way, so I haven't had to encounter him at all. This time, he was driving the SUV he sold to his sister, so I recognized it.

D was home and he didn't bother to stop to see her nor send her a text, etc. It is probably what annoyed me the most. He took the time to drive by and came down the road for whatever reason. I have said it before, there is no reason for him to come this way considering it is not the only nor most direct route back to where he lives.

D was just letting the cat out when Xh drove by and she saw the vehicle. I came home to find her just shaking her head. She said she wouldn't have really noticed had he not beeped the horn and scared the cat initially. What could I say to her?

Later that afternoon, D had to go to work and I needed a ride to pick up my car. My F offered to drive me to the shop. We were chatting away and he told me I would never guess who he had seen earlier in the morning. I had no clue. My F had gone for his usual cup of morning coffee and sat with his usual group of friends. I had taken a stab at guessing that maybe it was this one or that one who I know usually come to visit this time of year. My F said no and told me it took him by complete surprise. I had no clue.

The last encounter my F had with Xh was not a pleasant one. S was mortified when he had gone with my F to an event and knew Xh would be there. Xh and my F had been incredibly close. My F is not one to be unkind and will be civil at least with anyone, especially in a public place and even more so when it has to do with protecting the kids. He would be very careful to hide his feelings for the sake of his grandchildren when it came to Xh. He knew that S was already nervous about seeing Xh with my F in tow. S was so upset when he came home that evening and shared that my F had been very nice and attempted to converse about the event and Xh's antique car and Xh was nasty and rude.

The thing is my F had so many reasons especially at that time to be beyond angry with Xh. It was shortly after the divorce and Xh tried to drag my parents into the mix going so far as to have his attorney issue a subpoena for a court appearance. It never got that far because I went to my attorney and made a concession, one that would cost me financially but I was not playing that game with my parents and S was also sent a subpeona, all because Xh was trying to emancipate S. In the end, I would do it again that way. The monetary loss didn't matter to me. I was in protective mode.

Since that event years ago, my F has not seen Xh. The divorce was official 7 years ago and that event has to be about a year after that, so it has been easily 6 years.

My F said at first he didn't recognize him. He said my description is accurate and there is no way he would have pictured this version based on what he had known for over 30 years. He said Xh came up to him and shook his hand and behaved like they had been old friends who hadn't seen each other in years. Like nothing has changed. He asked my F how everyone was. Now in general, that is a common question and one anyone might ask, but my F found it to be such an odd thing, as the tone was what seemed strange for him. A forced, overly friendly. My F, started to tell me his response. I already could guess what had gone through my F's head and what his response would be since it is exactly how I probably would have responded. My F told me he was not unkind, but he simply said "we are all fine". My F told me that he was a bit perplexed as to what Xh might expect. Did he think that my F would share more than "fine" with him?

I laughed and said well must be it had Xh feeling nostalgic or nosy because he drove by a couple of hours later and beeped at the neighbor and I. My F laughed and asked how that went over. I told him the neighbor didn't recognize him and I was a bit annoyed later in the day.

Look, Xh can drive wherever he wants. Just like I have gone by his house when I have travelled to my friend's house and have to go right by Xh's to get there. But, this seems a bit different. It was curiosity, I suppose. Or maybe more. I highly doubt it was just coincidence. And in that regard it is fine. But, part of me was annoyed because I have worked so hard to put him and the MLC behind me.

Maybe it was because I was walking the dog and had been finding a bit of peace in my week after all of the chaos that had happened. I was feeling relaxed and he disrupted that. Maybe it was the feeling of him invading what I have worked so hard to make my own. IDK - I just know it wasn't stirring questions about MLC and what stage he is in.

I am not angry about Xh being in the area now. I moved on rather quickly. I do know it is in part preparing me for the inevitable and running into him somewhere when I am with my person. I had been preparing myself for that possibility in the places where I might run into Xh rather easily due to the common stores in a town nearby we both frequent. Now, I found myself realizing that it may be on my own turf so to speak.

When it comes to who I am with. I am very protective of my new relationship, which is how I am in general. I don't care what he knows in the sense that, I have nothing to hide as if it is some scandal. I am very grateful to be who I am with. I am happy. I don't need to hide that from anyone. I just don't want to share that part of my life in any way with Xh and with those I have drawn boundaries with.

I am realistic and know that Xh may know bits and pieces of my life just due to the fact that we still share some people we know in common outside of S. I also know that it is inevitable Xh is going to run into me one day with this person, as long as they continue to be in my life. I am not stupid enough to think that isn't going to happen.

I think part of me has a fear when it comes to Xh and his ability to blow life up. I value this relationship too much to have Xh cause problems and it is probably an irrational fear, but it is there.
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All things considered, if xH wants to try to blow things up, I think it will look a lot more like this....

because he is the one living life on the edge of the cliff, not you....
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UrsaMajor - LOL. Yes, I agree. As, I said it is an irrational fear I probably have.

The truth of the matter is, I know it is not likely. If my relationship blows up it would be very unlikely it was related to Xh. And to clarify - I am not looking for things and analyzing my current relationship - LOL. I am enjoying the path I have found myself on and embracing the direction it is going.

I think it is more that I have always been protective of those people I love.

I have often spoken of how I don't let people easily into my inner most rings. I have always preferred to share those rings closest to me with only a select few - I don't crave oodles of friends. I have only ever pushed two people out. Xh was one and that was after months of wanting something so very different. I didn't even push him out when I stopped standing. It was a long process and did not come easily. I don't just push people out of my life. It is why I am so very careful about letting anyone into those innermost rings. For me, once someone is there, I am incredibly loyal. So pushing someone out means and level of trust is broken and unfortunately, I am way too stubborn to bend on. I will never let that person become that close again. I can forgive, but I know I am not capable of opening myself up that way to that person again.

Maybe that is the real truth - I don't trust Xh and why there is that irrational fear. Xh, in his monster persona was so very capable of such nasty rumors, etc. I can rationalize he isn't a monster anymore, but my protective side doesn't want him to even appear. I don't want my happiness interrupted by the monster's nonsense.

It could be the monster is gone, but I really don't truly know. Xh's ability to gaslight and change within seconds conditioned me to prepare for the monster reappearing. Maybe after a few more years of relative calm from Xh will quell those thoughts. IDK
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Maybe that is the real truth - I don't trust Xh and why there is that irrational fear. Xh, in his monster persona was so very capable of such nasty rumors, etc. I can rationalize he isn't a monster anymore, but my protective side doesn't want him to even appear. I don't want my happiness interrupted by the monster's nonsense.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me....
It could be the monster is gone, but I really don't truly know. Xh's ability to gaslight and change within seconds conditioned me to prepare for the monster reappearing. Maybe after a few more years of relative calm from Xh will quell those thoughts. IDK

Trust is a hard thing to regain once broken, especially when the person involved has not bothered to try to make amends.....
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Me - 61, xW - 54
Together 19 years - Married 17 at separation & 21 at D-Day
S - 17, D - 13
1 Dog
BD#1 - August 2015
Atomic BD - 13 Dec 2015
House sold & separated - Mar 2016
Divorce final 30 August 2019
Moved on in life

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