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OP: May 15, 2024, 08:43:18 AM
Dear all,

In August 2022 I suspected that something was wrong and when I caught my ex talking to someone else by phone while we were sitting on a terrace and he was hiding behind a bar, I knew for sure that something was going on. At the beginning of September I found out about the amount of telephone contact during our holiday and about a week and a half later I had a positive pregnancy test in my hands... Deep down I knew that it was not okay, but I still wanted to continue to believe that nothing was wrong. For about two months I asked several times every day if something was wrong and what was going on, but he kept assuring me that nothing was wrong and tried to take away my uncertainty. I went looking for things that were different and not correct and unfortunately I found evidence that there was more going on than I had hoped. At the end of October 2022, I knew that things were really wrong when I had more and more evidence that there was indeed more going on and I finally spoke to “her” by telephone. In just over an hour, the ground sank under my feet and I was told by “her” what had been going on since May/June 2022. “She” indicated that the door was closed and that she hoped that we could come out as a family. And what do you do then? We already had a son, I was pregnant with number 2, we had just moved and things weren't that bad. Or was it bad, maybe? I was willing to forgive him and gave him chance after chance. However, she remained in the picture...

After I found out what had happened at the end of October, I cried, tried and begged for about six weeks. I couldn't reach him and he was often tired and so very angry. During that period he also started consuming more alcohol, which actually only increased his anger. When he had been angry, it sometimes seemed as if a filter had gone over him and suddenly nothing had happened. Sometimes this was immediately after he got angry, sometimes a day later. In any case, it was never possible to discuss what had happened, because then he would explode again. From the moment his affair became known, he paid less attention to our son. I was mainly responsible for the care moments. He would occasionally do something fun with our son, but that was about it.

I was once put aside for a day in November, but he came back because he didn't want to lose his family. He was gone for about a month in December/January. While he was away, we kept in touch by phone. Every now and then he came to pick up our son to do something, but sometimes he was home for a little while. I didn't do anything with him during that period if he asked, because she was still often in the picture. When it was our son's birthday, he came back and wanted to go for me and our family again. Less than a month later he didn't feel like it again. Most of the time “she” was in the picture, sometimes not for a while.

We ended up arranging everything, as I was expecting our daughter in May. I moved at the beginning of May. During the weekend of the move, he backed down and wanted his family back. This lasted 5 days and then he completely dropped me. My daughter was born at the end of May. He is not an involved father for her and with our son he has the joys, but not the burdens.

During the pregnancy he showed no interest in the baby or me. He asked several times whether abortion was an option and made it clear that she was not really welcome.

I don't understand it, still don't. Sometimes I wonder if I could have saved my relationship by doing things differently, because I also understand that a sad, insecure and distrustful girlfriend cannot win against a mistress. She won and I wasn't good enough… I don't know how to deal with this feeling. I find the loss of the children extremely difficult, because I am no longer part of a part of their lives.

He lives his life. He moved in with her quite quickly and looks happy and calm. He is satisfied with the (minimal) interaction with the children. I'm in sackcloth and ashes trying to get myself through the days. I'm afraid that she will take my place with the children and I will lose my children. These are his words... So far I haven't been able to let this go. I live in fear, every day.

She is everything I am not. I'm just normal. She is slim, always made up and her hair done, lots of tattoos. He also has a tattoo since last week, although he never liked it before.

I no longer exist for him. My feelings don't matter, he doesn't congratulate me on my birthday or wish me a happy Mother's Day. Why? I try to continue to act normal, to do the best I can for our children.

How will I ever get over this? Is it a midlife crisis or was it just not me for him? Is a midlife crisis even possible with his age (34 when it started, now 36)? Why is he happy and I'm not? So many questions, but no answers... Does karma exist?

I probably forgot to mention things, but there is so much that happened. Thank you in advance for taking the time to read my story. I hope to find some more answers here. :'(
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#1: May 16, 2024, 06:46:51 AM
Hello,

I am so sorry that you are here, but it is a great place to get advice and how to navigate a new norm. My best advice is to get your house in order. Take care of and protect your finances. MLCers are notorious about burning through money. You may have to seek legal advice.

Take the eye off of him and OW. Who cares? You need to focus on your self care and your children. Right now it is hard, but try to find moments of bliss, little tidbits of joy. That is what you build on. Sleep, eat, and a little exercise to get you out of your rut. Once again, this is about you reclaiming you and that no matter what happens, in the end, you will be fine.

Keep posting. Post at least one good moment you had today.

This is a long journey and it takes lots of time. So use it to be good to yourself and your children.

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#2: May 16, 2024, 07:37:27 AM
Hey Peg!

I can totally relate to everything ready has said to you (he has been a great help in my journey as LBS)! I also had a young MLC'er (33 at time of BD) and a 1 year old daughter.

The only advice I can give you from personal experience is that you make sure you take care of you and your childeren! With the help of Hero Spouse I've made decisions early on in my journey that benifited that. For me that was making him decide between fighting for our marriage or leave after 3 months post BD and eventually divorcing him 5 months after BD and with that most of the custody of my daughter and owning our home.

It's incredibly sad and I still mourn the loss of my marriage and my family. But my xH is still nowhere near the end of the tunnel and with the decisions I've made and the boundaries I've put me and my daughter have an incredible stable life, emotional and financial.

You can always read my topics, maybe they help you! And if you ever want to talk you can DM me!
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#3: May 16, 2024, 08:14:33 AM

I don't understand it, still don't. Sometimes I wonder if I could have saved my relationship by doing things differently, because I also understand that a sad, insecure and distrustful girlfriend cannot win against a mistress. She won and I wasn't good enough… I don't know how to deal with this feeling. I find the loss of the children extremely difficult, because I am no longer part of a part of their lives.

He lives his life. He moved in with her quite quickly and looks happy and calm. He is satisfied with the (minimal) interaction with the children. I'm in sackcloth and ashes trying to get myself through the days. I'm afraid that she will take my place with the children and I will lose my children. These are his words... So far I haven't been able to let this go. I live in fear, every day.

She is everything I am not. I'm just normal. She is slim, always made up and her hair done, lots of tattoos. He also has a tattoo since last week, although he never liked it before.

I no longer exist for him. My feelings don't matter, he doesn't congratulate me on my birthday or wish me a happy Mother's Day. Why? I try to continue to act normal, to do the best I can for our children.


Hello Peg, I wonder if you can clarify something - reading this ^^ it seems like your children are with your spouse and OW?  If that is so, maybe you need some extra support regarding custody rights etc.

Regarding the looking happy and calm - that will projected outwards to begin with because they have staked so much on their fabulous choices. But usually it's a loada tosh and the dynamic with the Instant Replacement type OW/OM is usually dysfunctional and eventually falls apart. But, as Ready says 'who cares' - well, we do, to begin with, but a good way to overcome that is to not look at it or hear about it. Let it sink itself.

He doesn't observe your birthday or other occasions because he knows he has done a terrible thing, he feels guilty and not so deep down, ashamed. If he is like a lot of avoidant spouses described on this forum (mine included) he will just shut it all out. You know, like that junk cupboard at home that you can't face dealing with. Shut the door and don't go in there. Eventually, because you keep stuffing stuff in there, the door will bust open and it will all fall out. That's not for you to worry about. Make your own celebration plans - day out with friends, go to the beach with the kids. Whatever you enjoy. Have no expectations from your spouse. Drop all that for now. You do not need him to make you happy. I know that is so hard to hear when you feel so unhappy. You are grieving, and grieving is its own journey. Not generally linear, but mostly we progress forward and out eventually. Grab the moments of joy, they will increase with time. Hugs - KD
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#4: May 19, 2024, 09:26:39 AM
Hi Peg:

Two questions:
Are you married / how long have you been together?
Are you based in UK or elsewhere?

None of that makes a huge difference to the advice we give you but it means that the advice can be more focussed.  For example if you were married - then what financial help/advice have you received?

This could well be an MLC?  It is never clear until it is.   Some relationships that break up don't necessarily have to be MLC based.

However - that in itself also doesn't matter because the advice on here helps anyone who has been abandoned unexpectedly and is left especially with young children.

He sounds like a right one - asking you if abortion is an option and from what I read not just once but more? 
His failure to recognise the daughter is also a very unhappy situation too.

Ok re the children - if you are not married and in the UK - the mother has rights and the concept that he will suddenly take the children from you is not necessarily true.  My D has a daughter and she split from her partner.  They both co-parent well but she was told that she would be the primary carer even though my GD goes to her dad's three days a week.
Therefore unless your ex takes you to court for custody - there is little that can happen immediately. 

Talk to a solicitor if necessary or citizen's advice and get as much info as you can.  If nothing else he is legally obliged to contribute to his children's welfare.  Then you could always look at mediation if he wanted to see the children more than just occasionally.

Secondly - DO NOT compare yourself to the OW.   This is woman who willingly took on a man who has cheated on his long term partner who was pregnant with his second child.  If she thinks that her life is now going to be rosy - she is in for a shock.
If you think that this is something you would do then by all means compare yourself to her - but you wouldn't and so comparing is pointless and time wasting.

Thirdly - your ex will pretend you don't exist because it's easier to do so but you know what - he will be watching.  If he sees you growing and managing without him, living a life that is full of joy and happiness - he will notice. 
Warning - do not do this to lure him back - that will fail big time but take it from me 11+yrs in and now reconnected.  My H watched me grow and live life without him and now we get on better than before.

You have to now create your own life around your fabulous young children, become the sassy mum who doesn't need a man to make her life complete.  Become the woman who can live without a man who hurts her and treats her as if she doesn't matter.
Become the woman that OW probably isn't and may never be. 

This is a tough journey to be on but you will get there.
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#5: May 21, 2024, 06:37:01 AM
Hi all,

Thank you for taking the time to read my story and leave a message! I do indeed hope to get some more advice here, because I find myself continuing to think and look for reasons why all this happened. I doubt myself so much, whether it's not just me that things went wrong. I have the feeling and idea that I am not good enough. I still think it's the hardest thing I've ever had to deal with and I'm still in the middle of it now, after just over a year and a half. I don't know how I can be truly happy again without him and our family. I feel like I need him, our family, to be happy. I'm so afraid that I will eventually lose my children too. That fear is always there, every day, all day long.

The children are with me most of the time. My son spends every other weekend and 3 vacation weeks a year with my ex. My daughter has been with me completely for the first year and, when she turns 1 year old at the end of this month, the visitation arrangements for her will be built up to the same arrangement as my son. My ex has made me terribly afraid of the future, which is why I am constantly worried that I will eventually lose my children to them. His OW has no desire to have children and thinks the arrangement as it is now is fine. But, she likes it when the children come…

How do I get my focus off my ex and OW? I am thinking about them from early in the morning until late at night and I ask questions to people around me throughout the day. These are questions that no one knows the answers to, but if I don't ask them, I remain so restless. I know it's stupid and sounds stupid, but it means a lot to me that they have what I wanted. I try to focus on my children and myself, but unfortunately this doesn't always go well for me. Especially when the weekend comes that my son goes to them again and when he is there for the weekend, I am in pockets and ashes. I try to experience moments of happiness, but I still find it difficult to really enjoy. The loss regarding my ex is still there and the lack of the family picture remains. For me, my family was (and is) everything... I'm so afraid that my children would ultimately rather be there than with me. They really only do the fun things, so I feel like the difference is enormous. It's not that I compare myself to the OW anymore, because I know that I don't look like her in many areas. My ex once said that we are similar on the inside. I sometimes still wonder what she has that I don't have, why things went wrong. I didn't think we had it that bad...

I live in the Netherlands. We were together for almost 12 years before I suspected she was in the picture. Apparently it had been going on for 3 or 4 months then. We eventually broke up after 12.5 years, after he dumped me three times. April ‘23 we completed everything with the mediator (parenting plan and agreements regarding the financial aspects). Unfortunately, it has not yet been passed in court, but if all goes well it will not take that long. In any case, my ex is in a hurry to get it sorted. I don't know exactly why, because it has no financial consequences for him, but it does for me at the moment. I have been living in my own house for just over a year now, with the children with me most of the time. Our finances were separated last December, when our house was sold. Unfortunately, the rental house is extremely expensive, but this was the only option to get my own place.

So, it's possible for a 34 year old to have a midlife crisis? But, how do I find out if it's MLC or if it's just me? I have no idea why things went wrong. He never said anything was bothering him. There were some minor frustrations at times, but that was more about our son's toys and the house being a bit messier. Perhaps we were living more apart from each other due to family life, renovations and moving. We had just bought a new house, which had been extensively renovated. And he, he was the one who wanted to move...

I somehow hope that something will go wrong one day if I speak from myself. But then there is a chance that he will go after the children, because then he will have nothing left. I am indeed too busy with them, because I think it is unfair and I feel like they have the picture that I have lost and would have loved to have. The feeling of being abandoned, for someone else, while we were a family together, makes me feel like I'm not good enough. He looks so happy and peaceful with his new life. I know things aren't going to change immediately regarding the kids and I don't expect him to have that need right now, but this is my fear and I have no idea how to live with that fear. It feels so unbearable sometimes.

My ex is not interested in my life at all. He lives his life and how I feel or what I do doesn't matter to him. He prefers that I have no contact with my son when he is there or on holiday with them. How do I deal with the hope I still have deep inside to get my family together? I still miss everything, even after everything that happened and how he treated me and the kids. I feel so stupid sometimes! He doesn't miss anything...

Abortion was not an option for me. Not at first, not once I knew exactly what was going on. We have a 5-year-old son and an almost 1-year-old daughter. How is your ex's relationship with your children? I don't know how my son feels. Sometimes I feel like he doesn't dare to be honest about how he feels and how he feels about my ex and OW. I sometimes try to talk to him, but it usually makes me more restless. I don't know if he says things out of loyalty or if he really feels that way.

How wonderful that you got together again! How did you end up getting back together?

Last weekend I went away for a long weekend for the first time with my two children. We enjoyed! There were small moments of loss, but most of the time I really enjoyed it. When we went home, the tears came…
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#6: May 21, 2024, 07:54:03 AM
A number of us know that restless feeling of seeking answers and the relentless deluge of questions in your head.
And tbh the feeling that goes with it of being unheard, unseen and silenced when this is, after all, your own life.

I am so very sorry.

What I can say with some degree of confidence is three things:
- the answers you are seeking will not come from your husband bc he is no longer a reliable source of information with good intent
- it takes time, longer than we wish, but you will eventually look at a growing stack of observable facts and decide on what you believe those answers are. Or as close to the truth of it as you feel you can get.
- by the time your future xh provides any useful answers that are worth listening to - if that ever happens - you will be past the stage where what he says matters so much.

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So, it's possible for a 34 year old to have a midlife crisis? But, how do I find out if it's MLC or if it's just me?

Yes, it’s possible if we accept that we use MLC as a shorthand for a big psychological fracture where someone takes a flamethrower to their life, without empathy for anyone else affected, and bets it all on a new magic happy fix. What we usually see here is a couple of things that go along with that…..they have a history (when you can look more objectively at it) of poor adult coping skills when life is tough, usually outsourced that to the LBS and tend to be avoidant by nature…..and once the new magic happy settles into a groove and long after you are no longer present in their lives, these folks tend to attract chaos, drama and poor decisions like flies in a cowshed. 34, 44 or 54 makes no difference….it’s more about what has built up a head of steam in them and how they deal with that (or don’t)

Or it’s about character, about who they really are that perhaps we did not see so clearly or excused in the past. And how bits of their character are amplified by choices they make, and how they deal with the effects of that.

Or it’s the limerence and attention comes with an affair, and a new start with a new person who doesn’t know you so well. Yet.

Sometimes, maybe often tbh, it’s a bit of all three.

The one thing it isn’t caused by is you. Or your children.
Nothing you did or did not do, nothing you are or are not, causes someone else’s MLC.
Nothing you did or did not do, nothing you are or are not, creates someone else’s character.
Nothing you did or did not do, nothing you are or are not, forces someone else to choose to have an affair and leave.
Even if we are very smart, that level of influence and control over someone else is just beyond our pay grade. And if it were, I don’t think you would have created any of these three options, would you?  ::)

That’s going to feel a bit counter-intuitive right now bc what has happened feels so personal. But it really says very little about you and quite a lot about him, regardless of whether the root cause is MLC, character, the fantasy escape of an affair. Or an allergy to cheese lol.

This is about who he is not about who you or your kids are.
And time and a little space will show you answers to many of the questions buzzing around in your head right now. And as they unfold, you can decide how you feel about those answers.

Right now though, this is an adult man who betrayed a pregnant wife and his small child. Who felt it was ok - or ok enough - to wreak havoc in your lives as long as he got what he wanted. Or didn’t care if he did. Who wanted to abort your daughter’s life before she even began bc her existence was inconvenient to him.
That’s not a good human. Or a good father. That’s a weak, entitled, self-centred prick to be kept at arms length as much as you can. I don’t know if he was always this kind of man, but he has allowed himself to become this and this is what he is now. And you should treat him accordingly imho. If that changes, if he changes, if it is MLC, you’ll see him change. But based on stories here, the few that do tend not to do so for years, so you might as well get on with your life essentially as if the husband you loved died. I am very very sorry bc grieving your losses and rebuilding a different life takes some time and energy too, but we are all here to tell you that there can be a good life on the other side of this. That you are still young, that you have your precious babies, and that it will get better.

And tbh, based on the observable facts, the same is true for OW. She could be the most externally beautiful woman in the world (although I have to remind you that plenty of famous beautiful women get cheated on too…and I’m sure it is probably not Beyoncé lol)….but what she factually also is is a woman who thinks it’s ok to sleep with a married man with a small child and a oregnant wife, a woman who if I understood you right told you what you h didn’t but also lied about ‘closing the door’.  That means she is a standard ow type.,.either delusionally stupid or staggeringly self centred. Or both. She’s nothing special and all she has won really is a proven adulterer capable of betraying his own family. Play $h!te games, win $h!te prizes. It’s normal that it doesn’t feel like that right now, I know, but with time that will be easier to see. Right now, you probably feel like both of them have ‘won’ everything and you have ‘lost’ everything. But tbh your h as he is now is far from a prize - would you want a man who could behave like that if he wasn’t already your husband? Could you do what she did to another woman and two small kids? Probably not, I’d guess. And these ow types are not Mary Poppins hausfrau types - even one’s own kids can be annoying and exhausting, and small kids around full time does tend to take the edge of any romance, right?

But I imagine right now life feels very hard and rather lonely. I’m so sorry.

Reading about your fear of losing your children? And how much self-doubt you are struggling with? While of course doing all the adult stuff of parenting and life? I don’t know if how you feel feels like a ‘normal’ version of you? What I do know is that a lot of LBS who had never experienced anxiety, deoression or existential doubt before this experience found themselves dealing with these things after it. Tbh that kind of Fear - fear with a capital F rather than normal fear about bad things happening - is a pretty common side effect of trauma. It’s what our brains and nervous system is hard wired to do to keep us safe but, after a big trauma or a long drip drip one, it can get a bit stuck on a loop. And that loop can make life harder. Are you seeing a therapist at the moment? And one who understands the effect of trauma? If not, I’d encourage you to do that. You won’t have to do it forever, but imho it’s a bit like needing a knee brace when you’ve damaged your knee. It can help you heal and it can help you deal with the challenges of normal life while you heal.

And we are always here to offer you a chair, a hug and a bit of encouragement as you do. Bc we get it. Bc we’ve been where you are and felt what you feel and thought what you think and been afraid of similar things and doubted ourselves in just the same way.
Some of us are still there. Some of us are on the other side.
So there’s not a single thing you could post that we will judge you poorly or think you are silly or that you are responsible for your h’s behaviour.
All of us care about you and your little ones having a good happy safe life with more rainbows than rain. Other people showed up for us, and often had to remind us of some of the same basic uncomfortable realities of this experience bc it’s easier to see more clearly from the cheap seats and calling something that quacks a probable duck can help you start to figure out your own wood for the trees as we all struggle with that initially , so now we can pay it back by showing up for you. And in time - although it might seem unimaginable right now - if you choose, you will be able to show up for others too.

How can we best support you right now, Peg?


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#7: May 21, 2024, 08:41:34 AM
Sorry this tornado has struck you. It's bewildering to wake up every morning and have this realization over again.

But, how do I find out if it's MLC or if it's just me?
I struggled with this for quite some time. When I thought I understood, a new layer of self-criticism emerged. I can see now that any relationship has ineffable nuance and complexity. It can't be boiled down to all-good, all-bad, all-me, all-him.

The tropes about stages are true enough. A metaphor that helped me is thinking about a mountain with no end. There are trails that loop, places to ascend and descend, easier paths, harder paths, unmarked paths. Unless you've walked them, the properties of these paths are not apparent. The paths themselves aren't even distinct and can be intermixed. Anyway, I interpret your questions in these ways:
  • How do I know if I were a good spouse?
  • How do I know if I did this? How do I know if I deserve this treatment?
  • How do I know if my spouse is insane and this behavior is therefore temporary, "untrue"/excusable, and "fixable"?
  • How do I learn about this maelstrom I find myself in so that I can protect myself from ever being besieged like this again?

For myself, the answers only made sense with time. By standing outside of the context in which the answers were so desperately "needed", my mind was able to settle a bit and see more clearly. It is frustrating to hear but it was true for me.

I do want to directly address "is it me?" I doubt my words will mean anything right now but hopefully they can contribute to some form of understanding. Is it you? No. It is NOT you. You did NOT do this. You are a valuable human being intrinsically. On top of that I can see you are a fantastic mother. You find yourself in a situation in which someone has hurt you deeply and your reaction is to understand their perspective. These are amazing qualities in a person. Your ex has discarded you not because of any aspect of you but because of aspects of himself. I don't know why he chose this, but I do know that HE chose this.
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How wonderful that you got together again! How did you end up getting back together?

It's a long story and you are welcome to read my threads.  We are not together - we separated formally Feb 2022 because H wanted to be on his own.  Now he has been and he hates it whereas me I LOVE it!
So we continue to co-parent our very adult children and GD but we live separate lives and meet at weekends.

It's been 11 years in the process and the first 7 were horrible - so this is a long journey but what I will say is this - My H in full blown crisis was vile but yours takes the first prize at this moment in time!

You have received some powerful info from Treasur - read and re-read it and read it again to be sure.  She's so right when she says we have all been exactly where you are feeling right now.

And THIS from zartheit

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I do want to directly address "is it me?" I doubt my words will mean anything right now but hopefully they can contribute to some form of understanding. Is it you? No. It is NOT you. You did NOT do this. You are a valuable human being intrinsically. On top of that I can see you are a fantastic mother. You find yourself in a situation in which someone has hurt you deeply and your reaction is to understand their perspective. These are amazing qualities in a person. Your ex has discarded you not because of any aspect of you but because of aspects of himself. I don't know why he chose this, but I do know that HE chose this.

Say this over to yourself every day over and over again - "It is not me. I did not cause this. I did not do this - this was his choice and his alone.  I am a valuable human being."
Stand in front of the mirror and say it to yourself, say it when you dry your hair, in the shower, when walking down the street, in the car, when you hug your children.....    Say it many times and eventually your "negative nelly" imposter brain will accept it.

The thing to do is keep posting and read as much as you can of RCR's articles - they are an absolute godsend.
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#9: May 25, 2024, 04:35:27 PM
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That’s not a good human. Or a good father. That’s a weak, entitled, self-centred prick to be kept at arms length as much as you can. I don’t know if he was always this kind of man, but he has allowed himself to become this and this is what he is now.
THIS!!! Tresur is right and honestly thinking of what he has done and what is is doing  NOW in the negatives is how you stop the glorification of this new romance.  He is with someone who has no morals, because right not he has no morals. This happened to me after 30years of marriage. I am telling you that their relationship is built on lies and pain of others. It is nothing to admire or want.

You have such small children and just starting to really build your life and that is so hard when they require so much of your energy and right now you just want to hide in a corner and hope time changes things. My beat advise is to be the beat mom you can under the circumstances and if you need help reach out to your support system. Siblings or family. There is no shame in needing a break. I found it was hard to think of anything for a while but my XH and OW because I wasn’t creating any new memories to help me move forward. Get out. Join a gym. Have a girls weekend when your ex has the kids. It helps so much just to get out, even when you dont feel like even brushing your hair.

Take the time your ex has the kids for YOU!!!
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Married July 1991
Jan 2018 BD1 moved out I filed for Div/ H stopped it
Oct 2018 moved back
Oct 2020 BD2
Feb 2021 Div-29 1/2 years
July 2021 Married OW
Feb 2022  XH fired
June 2022 XH bring OW to meet family due to xMIL illness
May 2023 went NC after telling XH we could not be friends
Aug 2023 XH moves w/o OWife
May 2024 xMIL visits XH/OW in their new home
Aug 2024 cut relations w/XH fam.
Dec 2024 D33 expecting baby ( XH not told)

 

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