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#120: September 30, 2024, 06:43:40 PM
I need to GAL but I’m currently stuck in the suburbs with no access to a car. I’m not sure if I can buy or lease one with a divorce impending.

I guess im just feeling stuck. Getting out of the house (finally) next in a couple of days, so that should bring some improvement, but the lack of independence and almost total dejection of the truth from the outside world is really taking its toll.

Flummoxed, not sure where you are located but perhaps there is an LBSer that lives close by that would be interested in some sort of adventure or GAL activity.  We used to have a ton of LBSers all over the globe, but not sure how many post any more.
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#121: October 05, 2024, 10:48:30 AM
Thank you so much, Treasur, OffRoad, Tailspin, and FaithWalker for all of your shares!! I was out of town for a bit (!!) and got a nice little break from the isolation madness.

I will do my best to take a step back and not take his words personally. I’m working to embrace the fact that most people just have their opinions and they’ll stick to them no matter what- it is not in my control to change that and I should protect my energy to tend to myself and my loved ones. I am working on letting go of the need to convince others I’m right because it truly does not matter at the end of the day.

Agreed- Switzerlands can also be dropped as well as those who refuse to take accountability for their actions. They bring no benefit outside of added numbers.

I’d love to meet up with other LBSs and GAL! I noticed there used to be little meetups- it would be great if that was still a thing though I’ve also noticed engagement has dropped over the years. Perhaps most people have shifted to the FB group, but I’m avoiding social media currently so that just isn’t an option right now.

Journaling (it’s gonna be a long one):

I spent a few days immersed in nature and it was incredibly therapeutic. Maybe it was the jump from being isolated in suburbia to being free to roam in a national park- it was startling but also so good for the soul. The mountains and rivers and trees have been here for so much longer than we have and have withstood so much more- it gives one hope that we can make it through this period of time as well.

On this trip, I spent my downtime reading “Complex PTSD” by Pete Walker in the hopes of further undergoing my healing journey. Although my intention going in was purely focused on myself, there were several passages that made me think of MLC and my H. It flashed a huge light on my past and present behaviors; I’m really looking forward to practicing the guidances shared and reading more by Walker to expand my toolkit.

I found Walker’s book to be quite enlightening and I’d recommend giving it a read for those interested. As a recap, both H and I have had similar upbringings in the sense that we were raised by emotionally immature parents and experienced considerable childhood trauma from our very early years onward. I was concerned, due to our similar backgrounds, that I may also be at risk for an MLC down the line, so I wanted to get a head start on my healing journey to prevent as much as possible and live my life in as authentic a way as possible.

Through “Complex PTSD”, Walker speaks to “emotional flashbacks” experienced by the individual working with CPTSD. These are fundamentally triggered periods of time in which a person flashes back in time to when they were experiencing the initial trauma in childhood. They no longer have access to their left brain processing- they are dependent on their right brain processing (all emotions) during this time. They forget who they can trust and feel as though they are on their own. They fall back to old fear responses, or base instinct coping mechanisms, to self-soothe, which often times increase in intensity leading to addiction. They project their anger for their parents at a potentially innocent bystander. They justify their actions and dissociate to protect themselves. Doesn’t this all sound a bit familiar?

Walker further explained his theory of the layers of dissociation: the fear response (running behaviors), inner critic (the horrendous depression within), fear and shame (the individual truly facing what they have done), followed by the abandonment depression (rock bottom, liminality).

An emotional flashback is simply the inner child expressing their fear and pain- all of this emotion has been repressed for so long and it just needs a release. The best way to release is through grief- releasing the anger held within for their parents (monstering) and crying to release the pent up sadness. Whenever I read a recovered MLCer thread, I come across the torrential downpour of tears at or around awakening. Tears bring clarity.

Now, why am I sharing this book report? Because I feel like it was really, truly eye opening (at least for me). I think, in a similar vein as Hearts Blessing, I experienced a sampling of a transition/crisis prior to my H. I figure I’ll be a bit vulnerable here in case it helps somehow. To be honest, I thought it may have been related to alcohol consumption, but looking back, I highly doubt this was the work of a couple of beers. (I have since quit drinking as of BD.)

We were two years into the pandemic and we had relocated across the country. H was people-pleasing to the max; I didn’t know that was his fear response at the time. I just felt like his last priority and that I was alone surrounded by superficial friends. The culture was different, I was not fitting in, and the only person who got me was constantly prioritizing other people and their issues. This brought on an emotional flashback for me- not crisis level, but it made me feel like a kid again when my mom would do the same thing. I felt I didn’t matter, that he didn’t really care, that I was alone and hopelessly misunderstood.

Then we came across an old acquaintance and something just clicked in me. I had one conversation with the guy alone and I truly acted like I was possessed by something or someone else. I felt like I was truly understood for the first time in a long time. I’ve had social anxiety since I was a kid but I was somehow flirting like a champion, no hesitation. I thought this person totally gets me- I bet we have so much in common. Like an absolute psycho. We went home and reality set in- the distance made it easier for me to process. I, thankfully, had already been inadvertently practicing some of the treatment guidances outlined by Walker in his book that I was able to tie in what little left brain processing ability I had to highlight to myself that I knew nothing about this person. That I was fundamentally creating a fantasy and superimposing it on this total stranger. I knew something was wrong- I could feel I wasn’t myself. I knew I loved H and was honestly scared of the pull. I initially thought it was pheromones or something. I researched how to kill the feeling and all I could find was that it will take mindfulness and time. It was a few months later when I started to feel suicidal that I even noticed I was in the midst of a depressive episode and was able to get myself out using old tried and true methods. The heart pattering did take time to die out but it lessened over time on its own. I never acted on anything; the distance and having some left brain control definitely helped (thank goodness). But I can’t help but wonder if my emotional flashback helped serve as a trigger for H’s crisis.

As kind of firetrucked up as my life has been, one trauma after another, I feel as though I have slowly learned to treat myself with care and kindness. I am still a work in progress and treating CPTSD is a lifelong endeavor. H has forced his way forward in life by repressing a lot, which is why I fear his emotional flashback has become a true crisis. However, I feel as though my little out of body experience has led to me feeling a bit more compassion toward H and I am trying to look at things from a Birds Eye view. It is  terrifying to feel like you’ve lost control and you’re behaving in ways you never would. He truly is the only one who can get himself out and I truly hope he develops the strength someday to break free, tear down the critic, and show himself kindness as he heals from the depression. In the meantime, I will continue my work of grieving my own lost childhood and tearing down my own inner critic. If I can potentially avoid a transition or crisis myself, I would be unbelievably thankful.



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#122: October 05, 2024, 04:11:47 PM
Flummoxed,

A very thought provoking post, thank you. I will check out Pete Walker's book on your recommendation, especially as you draw parallels to Heart's Blessing's writings (I avoided her writing at the beginning of my LBS journey due to the more spiritual aspect of her website, which was a mistake on my part, as there's loads of good material on there, as well as in her book). 

You mention meeting up with other LBS's in your post. If you can find someone nearby I'd highly recommend it. It's just my personal experience, but when I was new to the forum another poster and I exchanged a few PMs and realised we were fairly close to each other, both geographically and on our healing timelines. We arranged to meet at large train station in London, some weeks after first chatting on the phone. I was as nervous as hell, setting out to meet her, I didn't know how, she, or I would react to actually meeting each other in person - I suppose a little like the nervousness of travelling to a job interview or maybe a first date would be the best way to describe it - although it wasn't either of those feelings!
When we finally met at a packed, rush hour station we both held each other tight and sobbed our hearts out. Looking back, it was a pivotal part of my journey. The forum is fantastic, but meeting someone in RL who really, really knew the pain I was in and who wanted to support me, and me her, was pretty amazing. We chatted for hours over a crappy train station coffee and then I walked her to her train and waved goodbye.
We continue to stay in touch, although our paths have taken us in different directions. She stood for a long time, but after healing and growing loads she met a new man, who really loves and cares for her. I continued my stand. We regularly check in on each other, and send each other photos of our adventures, her with her new love and me with my kids or at family get togethers. I think she's one of the bravest people I've met for being able to trust a new man and move forward in that direction. She'd say the same about me for continuing my stand and being willing to start to trust my W again.
Anyway, sample of one as usual - but I found it very beneficial and a quite beautiful and touching experience!

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#123: October 06, 2024, 08:19:51 AM
Thank you so much for the share, Biscuit! Wow- your RL friendship with the other LBS is honestly so touching. To meet someone in person to be open and honest, feel the feels, and discuss this totally firetrucked situation would be such a game changer. I’ll take a chance and ask around for sure. Thank you so much for sharing this amazing experience with me!

And I’m glad you’ll be checking out Walker’s book! I felt like it aligned with what I’ve read on Hearts Blessing’s page, this forum, and my personal experience. I had the same issue originally with Hearts Blessing’s articles and book, but was also so thankful to return to them all. I’m personally not a member of the Christian or Catholic faith (I’m sorry if my statement offends; I’m honestly ignorant when it comes to the difference at this time.), but do believe in a higher power. Regardless of one’s personal beliefs, I also feel that the meat and potatoes of her content hold merit and provide support. And, sometimes, one needs to read similar if not the same content in another way for it to sink in, which is what I feel Walker does.

I subscribe to Hearts Blessing’s theory of parallel journeys. Although I am not the one who demolished our relationship and his MLC is not about me, I know there are areas in my life I can work on. I can heal from my past traumas, build myself up to become a stronger version of myself, and live a life truly aligned to myself instead of consistently taking one for the team. If H is able to return, he will see that things will not be the same as they were. If H is not, I will be stronger than ever before and living life for me. It does not make this process any easier, but it gives me a bit more purpose and reminds me that I do have control of at least one thing and that’s me.
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#124: October 06, 2024, 07:12:07 PM
Journaling:

I’ve had difficulty crying for as long as I can remember, until I got together with H. I guess my body finally relaxed enough to let the tears flow. Until BD2- now the tears won’t come out for more than 5 seconds at a time. I know I need to grieve to heal both the current trauma and the past but I haven’t figured out how yet.

Woke up from a nap to an emotional flashback, triggered by the H abandonment. Felt the running behavior of wanting to find someone else. I know that’s not the answer and I need to feel out the depression and grieve. It all comes back to pent up grief.

I started watching the movie “Wild”-  inspiration to face the unknown, I guess. I don’t know if you’ve seen it, but there’s a scene where Cheryl and her ex mail their divorce papers together. He pulls her in for a hug as she tears up and he thanks her for their years together. I had to pause the movie- I spontaneously broke down sobbing. Is that how divorces can be when one person isn’t off in Lalaland? It was heartbreaking but there were these two people on the screen who still held love for each other and treated each other with respect and kindness… I know it’s a movie and divorces tend to bring out the worst in people, but (as you all know) none of this is normal and I guess i finally allowed myself another five seconds to grieve the loss of a man who brought me so much love, safety, and understanding. I know we need to be whole individuals and not need to depend on others; it’s just that I had to be tough and fight my entire life and had to act strong. He was the first person I could truly just be myself with. And I know he felt the same way.

Now I’m taking the time to be more vulnerable with others. Life is unpredictable and I don’t want to find myself here again. But I started the day off strong and now I sit with my little chunk of grief. In a way, I’m thankful- it means I’m that much closer to processing and that much closer to healing.
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#125: October 07, 2024, 06:20:13 AM
I too have met up with a couple of LBS's in real life, one who is still active when he was passing through Frankfurt to run in the Berlin Marathon (guess who THAT might have been  ;)  ) and one who is no longer active on HS when she was here around Christmas time and we hit the Frankfurt Christmas Market together.

Both times it was like hanging out with an old friend that you had never met before.... the communal bond of "Oh yeah, that $#!t happened to me too" made it quite easy and relaxing.

If there are LBS's in your area, it is quite possible to arrange a meet up. There used to be a sticky post on the first page of where people were from (what part of the world down to the town if it was a bigger one so the LBS couldn't be specifically identified) and from there, people would PN each other to arrange metet-ups. A few years ago IIRC (BC - Before Corona) there was a European meet-up in Tuscany area of Italy that I heard was a real hoot....
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#126: October 08, 2024, 06:59:09 PM
Nature can be a truly wonderous experience. There is nothing like being in the trees for me. The sounds, the scents, the textures are all a joy.
 
Warning: One needs the correct sense of humor to appreciate these "Commercials". Nature Rx These make me smile  :)
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So many times people wanted me to be "happy". We were not just given one emotion of "happy". There is a reason for all the others. It's ok  to feel sad, mad, whatever. Feel it, let your feelings wash through. Be angry, be upset, be sad. If you don't work through it, you just can't let it go, IMO. And let it go doesn't mean forget, it just mean acceptance of what is. And that sometimes it stinks and it's going to make us unhappy and that's OK.

As children, we don't always realize that our lives were maybe a little messed up (or a lot). My xh thought his life was just fine and then he told me about the time his parents (both of them) threw him and his brother (10 and 8 ) out of a sailboat with a life jacket on (so they could "see what it was like"-no warning) and then spent the next half hour trying to pick them up because they could not get the boat close enough to get them. I'm appalled at the story. Who does that? There were  many stories like that. (like taking them  without any provisions or shelter and walking them out to BFE and telling them they were going to spend the night so they could see what hunger was really like). He would tell the stories like they were funny, but when I asked how he felt at the time it happened, he "couldn't remember".  So there are varying levels of screwed upedness, some of which would never be on a spouse's radar.

You sound like you understand yourself pretty well and I'm sure those lessons were hard won. And remember, grief isn't always linear. You are doing great.
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#127: October 12, 2024, 11:16:19 PM
Thanks so much, UM and Offroad!!

I would absolutely love to meet up with other LBSs- it sounds like such an amazing experience to meet up and connect with others who understand and can empathize. I wish that sticky thread was still there- this may be a reason to traverse the FB group, huh?

100%, Offroad, I’m trying to feel my emotions this time around as I have the tendency to postpone feeling until later. But often times that leads to repression, which is definitely something I’d  like to avoid. My H’s family was the same! I heard some truly awful stories but he just shrugged and laughed it all off? Those survival tests are shocking to say the least; i can only imagine the fear experienced!

And thank you for the kind words- definitely hard won experience, for sure. I’m hoping to grow positivity from this experience too, though I’m sure it’ll take time as so much of all of this does.

Journaling:

I just got back from packing up and moving out of the apartment. My best friend came with me and kept me sane and fed throughout the process. It seems OW2 had stayed there for some amount of time and felt comfortable wearing my clothes and using my toiletries, targeting the nicer items. I feel like that enough is a clear indication that this is for sure an AD. And the fact that H was onboard tells me all I need to know about where he’s at- my mantra has updated to “my life is for me” so I can focus on my perspective and not on the actions of others.

The move was swift- I know the advice is to typically stay but my entire social support is out of state and I was in limbo in that apartment for almost two years. I just wanted to move back to my home state, not hold onto staying where I would continue to be alone. I encountered so many helpful, wonderful people throughout my trip- it felt like the universe was showering me with love and kindness as I was going through this ordeal.

I blasted a breakup playlist on repeat throughout my flight back home. Although I’m triggered not so infrequently back to H and his shenanigans and what he could be doing right now, I’m pulling myself back and reminding myself there’s no way I could know. And if I did, what difference does it make?

I don’t know if or when he’ll come out, but it doesn’t seem like it’ll be any time soon. Any potential moments of clarity would have been swept up by the fog- the reality he has constructed is so far removed from who he was as a person and what he wanted for his life; it’s astounding. Stand or no stand, it seems like the overall guidance truly is to move on like this was a breakup, because it was fundamentally. I’ve kept my communications with him sparse, containing only need to know information, as if he was a random coworker. But I don’t foresee that being necessary any longer now that I’ve officially moved across the country.

I’m on to jumpstart my journey forward in life. Continue with IC, but also focus on more growth outside of this crisis and CPTSD. I’m looking forward to connecting further with old friends, putting down stronger roots, and enjoying this time as a way to learn, grow, and flourish. The kindness and love from those around me this week just further cemented that the chaos isn’t about me, regardless of what I’ve been told.
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#128: October 13, 2024, 07:11:37 AM
Years ago, there was a closeness between members that was different than now.

We had meetups in Luxemburg, Leeds UK, Portugal, California, NYC and Italy.

It was difficult to keep the list of where people lived up to date.

These meetups were life changing for me.

You can start an "off topic thread" asking people to state where they live with the hope to locate someone nearby. Some people don't want to put up that much information so you can always say things like East Coast USA.

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I know the advice is to typically stay but my entire social support is out of state and I was in limbo in that apartment for almost two years. I just wanted to move back to my home state, not hold onto staying where I would continue to be alone.

Advise is only that and you need to do what works for you. To be honest, one reason I stayed here was I believed it would make a difference in whether or not he would come home..it did not.

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I’m on to jumpstart my journey forward in life. Continue with IC, but also focus on more growth outside of this crisis and CPTSD. I’m looking forward to connecting further with old friends, putting down stronger roots, and enjoying this time as a way to learn, grow, and flourish. The kindness and love from those around me this week just further cemented that the chaos isn’t about me, regardless of what I’ve been told.



This sounds very healthy. There will be times when you are triggered, it doesn't jsut magically go away, but new brain patterns can be formed and life can become very good once again.
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#129: October 14, 2024, 08:06:34 AM
Thank you so much, xyzxf!

Yeah, the energy of the forum has changed quite a bit over the years- you can feel it through the threads. But I’ll definitely give it a shot and keep it vague for the most part. I’m also one of those folks who doesn’t want to share too much defining information in the open so completely understand the hesitancy!

Looking forward to the reprogramming and shift! Now that I’m no longer physically attached to the situation, it feels like I’m finally ready to unhook the emotional attachments. Walking into our home and seeing evidence of the ongoing affair in my face was not easy or pretty; it’ll take a wee bit of time to let it go. But at the end of the day, this isn’t about me and I have a life to live. I need to keep reminding myself that. Thank you for the hope that it does get better; it’s what’s keeping me going. 💗

Journaling:

At first, I think I was so focused on H being unwell and trying to learn all I could about what was happening. Fixer complex, right? But then he turned from “you’re so nice” to “I haven’t been happy in X years and it’s all your fault” on a dime. I know he’s unwell and I know he’s spewing lies and justifications, but his decisions are his decisions at the end of the day no matter how mind-boggling they are. He chose to lie to everyone including himself, get involved with someone who so closely aligns with his mom it’s scary, work himself to the bone, and still have the time to imagine me as the enemy- the one person who had been there for him for almost a decade.

It is what it is though, right? The wounds are a little fresh from my recent trip, but it feels like more of a bruise to the ego than a shot to the chest like BD2 was. Which is huge progress, I’d say, in two months time. I know I have no interest in the “man” he is today and I feel way more comfortable wrapping this up legally. If he truly cannot see my value, can treat me in such a disrespectful way, why on earth would I want this person in my life?

The pain will come and go. I got triggered by the word from yesterday’s Wordle puzzle. But I’m trying to frame it as him just ending our marriage in the most cowardly way possible, rather than romanticizing it. He had his faults that I always brushed past because I thought that’s what you did when you loved someone unconditionally. But I didn’t get that kind of love back- he made me feel like I was a project even when I’d bend over backwards for him. Either a project or not even a blip on the radar of things that were important to him. He 100% took me for granted. Sometimes I wonder if he was even capable of loving in that way. Maybe I projected goodness onto him then like he projects his hatred onto me now.

So what am I fighting for and what am I trying so hard to hold on to? He’s definitely in a crisis and is not himself. I still have love for him, but I’m no longer actively tending to it. It can burn out whenever it’s ready to. I’m feeding my own fire and will move on to the next bonfire site when I’m ready.
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