[honour]

I just honestly believe females are less likely to have affairs to medicate themselves.

Why do you believe this?

honour

[xyzcf]

I saw this on PBS last night..it is on depression and the circuits of the brain that can now actually be examined...very interesting and I think pertainent to what we are dealing with in our MLCers

http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/12380?sponsor_id=1

[Sassyone]

I just honestly believe females are less likely to have affairs to medicate themselves.

Why do you believe this?

honour

Through reading on depression and MLC.  Women tend to withdraw from their lives.  Men use sex (yes women do too, but not nearly as much) to make themselves feel better or more vital.  I just watched the Charlie Rose episode on depression . . . it is very, very informative.

Hugs,

Sassy

[kikki]

That is very interesting, thanks for posting xyzcf

[Stillpraying]

Here's another article which discusses the impact of how we treat our children early in life..

http://www.compleatmother.com/articles2/why_men_leave.htm

[forthetrees]

http://news.yahoo.com/study-ties-troubled-sleep-lower-brain-volume-190346074.html

My ex had major insomnia before BD.

[onlyjo]

FTT
mine too.  he didn't sleep for years! 

i can't help but wonder, though, if this is a sort of cart vs. horse thing, though...
depression causes insomnia, or insomnia causes depression...
or MLC...

i wonder if there are studies out there that link the correlation between insomnia and cortisol...i attended a lecture on cortisol production last year, and it was eye-opening.  too much of that stuff will really mess you up.  and that's what (i think) many MLCers run on for long periods of time...cortisol, and guilt. 

sigh. 
take care
onlyjo

[Searching4Answers]

Mine too!

He still doesn't sleep well; wakes up around 4:00am. he says he hasn't had a good nights sleep since he stopped drinking (16 years ago)

[kikki]

forthetrees, the fact that my H couldn't sleep prior to BD was apparently my fault, and his one major reason for having to leave me.

Sadly for him, his troubled sleep continues 3.5 years later.

i wonder if there are studies out there that link the correlation between insomnia and cortisol

I think this is another of those circular things.  Too much stress raises cortisol and upsets our sleep amongst other things - and not enough sleep raises our cortisol levels.

[onlyjo]

hi Kikki
yes--totally agree--it's all a big mess, inside their bodies and their minds.  the unfortunate part is that their "mess" affects many, many people--which came first, the chicken or the egg?  and does it really matter?

how are you?  when i first found this site (which i truly believe has been a primary resource in getting me to where i am today--which is a good place...) i read all your posts because i had a clinger too.  my clinger has "unclung" somewhat, but still boomerangs...

just wanted to say thanks for your wisdom and insight.
onlyjo