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"I think most people go through dozens of transitions"

Possibly so, but we are specifically referring to midlife here.

"the big differances is how one copes and what support systems are in place etc

Yes, since MLC is the result of lack of emotional development from an earlier age, I agree the coping skills in the MLCer are greatly lacking.  I'm not sure what you mean by support systems, but I'm not sure most MLCers look for that once the crisis has begun.

But I think there it is... the difference between a transition and an MLC is... history and how you feel about yourself... what happened in your childhood maybe.  How comfortable you are in your own skin...  How you feel about your self and your roll in the universe.  Maybe... maybe not.. I am just thinking out loud here... thats what we do here right?

[Dontgiveup]

Ziggee

"But I think there it is... the difference between a transition and an MLC is... history and how you feel about yourself... what happened in your childhood maybe.  How comfortable you are in your own skin...  How you feel about your self and your roll in the universe.  Maybe... maybe not.. I am just thinking out loud here... thats what we do here right?"

Yes, you can certainly think out loud....no problem there.  Something I consistenly do on this forum is to connect information.  I'm an information guy.

The difference between a midlife transition and midlife crisis is the behavior.  Jim Conway addresses this in his materials.  In a midlife crisis, the behavior of the MLCer will go against the core values they have held for many years.

Here is part of RCR's article called Initiatory Experience that discusses childhood causation.

MLC is the result of significant wounding in childhood and at a person's initiatory experience and thus their return to the wounding is a regression wherein they choose to repeat their earlier mistakes in hopes of correcting them rather than applying their experience to make different choices.

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Yes, you can certainly think out loud....no problem there.  Something I consistenly do on this forum is to connect information.  I'm an information guy.

Ah yes information... I hear you... That is what I am looking for here... and maybe a little dumping of the brain at the same time... I hope that I am being overly simplistic  to think it is safe here... :/  So far don't think so... I have felt compelled to say things here I dont tell my closest friends... strange eh?  How many strangers are reading this stuff?  More then 2 I am thinking

The difference between a midlife transition and midlife crisis is the behavior.  Jim Conway addresses this in his materials.  In a midlife crisis, the behavior of the MLCer will go against the core values they have held for many years.

This I see... things we have held dear as a couple for 22 years... out the window... poof... applying logic... I can not rationalize... she is a smart woman... but... there it is...

MLC is the result of significant wounding in childhood and at a person's initiatory experience and thus their return to the wounding is a regression wherein they choose to repeat their earlier mistakes in hopes of correcting them rather than applying their experience to make different choices.

And there it is again... childhood... I had so thought we had moved past the childhood issues... I thought that after 22 years of being married and 25 years together... she would have finally gained it would not be an issue... silly as it is... even though every Christmas... thanksgiving and what ever major even there was there it would be again... with her family... then they all would not talk for 6 months and then suddenly out of the blue everyone would pretend nothing had happened...

Then I think... well I am a logical person... wife is smart... I am logical... why cant we just sit down and connect the dots and then move on... but no... I have to wait for her to go on her own personal journey... All to much for a simple IT geek who wants to just apply logic to everything   Not saying I can't learn... on the bright side... I am stupid stubborn..

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Then I think... well I am a logical person... wife is smart... I am logical... why cant we just sit down and connect the dots and then move on... but no... I have to wait for her to go on her own personal journey... All to much for a simple IT geek who wants to just apply logic to everything   Not saying I can't learn... on the bright side... I am stupid stubborn..

Welcome to the club of logical people that just think one could sit down, connect the dots, sort matters out and solve the case. 

But, no, no sir, we have to wait for them to go through their personal journey.

Of course, we get the logic of the journey applied to the MCLer but... grrrr...I think it is our life test: you cannot aply logic to MLC! 

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Of course, we get the logic of the journey applied to the MCLer but... grrrr...I think it is our life test: you cannot aply logic to MLC! 

And today's lesson ladies and gentleman is unapplied  logic... or would it be applied illogical?  Next week... bending spoons with your mind...  After that.... when does 1 not equal 1.  I have heard there are cases...


Me.

[Anjae]

And today's lesson ladies and gentleman is unapplied  logic... or would it be applied illogical?  Next week... bending spoons with your mind...  After that.... when does 1 not equal 1.  I have heard there are cases...

Loved the applied illogical. Should be made a college subject: applied illogical, methods to advanced MLC. 

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Loved the applied illogical. Should be made a college subject: applied illogical, methods to advanced MLC. 

That is funny... I was thinking the same thing... I just didnt write it down...

Amazing... really

Me.

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Loved the applied illogical. Should be made a college subject: applied illogical, methods to advanced MLC. 

That is funny... I was thinking the same thing... I just didnt write it down...

Amazing... really

Thoughts Transmission?  Shall we open a course on the subject? We will get rich! 

[LeaveThePastBehind]

"Is MLC more prevalent than currently believed?"

I just think the whole world is going nuts. I really do. Is that pessimistic? ( sorry - I'm trying to change that negative thinking ) About mid-life crisis, I think, when it comes to mental illness, in general, there really isn't enough acceptance. It's my feeling that, mid-life crisis will only become more common, even though I don't have any immediate examples of it in my life aside from him.


Edited: I know it isn't possible for the whole world to be nuts. There are way too many good people, places, experiences and so much more, for that to be true!

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Agree with yoy, Star, midlife crisis will become more common. Just like depression (without or with MLC).