[Anjae]

Wow, absolutely fascinating article, FTT.

[toughtimes]

I'm just recalling hs stress levels before he left, they were sky high. He had so much on his plate and even said "I can handle work, I can handle being a dad but I can't handle you!" Some of his friends had advised him not to do anything until he had finished a project he was working on which was stressing him out. He was waking every single night many times a night, he was prone to illnesses and infections, was tired, moody, snappy and angry. He was smoking and drinking.
When he left he said he was sleeping better, he was running and eating healthily. He didn't get so ill. He gave up smoking and drinking. He was free of responsibility of our small kids and I guess the infatuation hormones kicked in. But he stopped getting illnesses and was sleeping again. This I find tricky to understand, it was like I was the stressor, got rid of me and so got rid of the symptoms of stress/depression.
However a year on and he said he had to move in with ow full time and out of his office because his inability to switch off from work was proving detrimental to his health. Fast forward another year and he has recently told me he has collapsed at work twice in the last few months due to stress (he reckons it's too much driving but I would say it's his lifestyle). Could the infatuation hormones no longer be providing an energetic high so the stress hormones are able to dominate again?
I think the faster and higher they fly the further they fall but I think the fall will have to come from an external source for my H, loss of money so his lifestyle suffers or loss of ow, work and ow are his addictions. Getting rid of the work could cause ow to disappear, no more money or influence. I imagine this would plunge him into a depression, both lines of addiction cut off. 

[kikki]

Could the infatuation hormones no longer be providing an energetic high so the stress hormones are able to dominate again?

Yes, absolutely, the infatuation hormones only superficially covers up what ails them for so long. And then they're back to square one, but in the middle on an enormous mess of their own creation.

[Anjae]

The infatuation hormones cover other issues but they do not work the same way in every person.

Mr J never sleep better since he left. He sleeps even less. He also start drinking and keeps drinking, his stress level and workaholicness never went away. Maybe the infatuation hormones never worked for Mr J, so he needs all that clubbing to numb himself.

In our husband it does seem that the infatuation hormones stop working and now he had to deal with the consequences.

[Anjae]

Three links to interesting articles. The first link is in portuguese (google translator is your friend  ) and is about portuguese scientist that found an enzyme that battles depression. The second and third are about Alzheimer's. One about brain scan for early detection and prevention and the other about  recreating brain cells to research the disease.

http://boasnoticias.pt/noticias_Portugu%C3%AAs-descobre-enzima-que-combate-depress%C3%A3o_21046.html?page=0 - Português descobre enzima que combate depressão

http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-alzheimers-brain-biomarker-radiology-20141007-story.html  - Radiologists use MRIs to find biomarker for Alzheimer's disease

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/13/science/researchers-replicate-alzheimers-brain-cells-in-a-petri-dish.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&bicmp=AD&bicmlukp=WT.mc_id&bicmst=1409232722000&bicmet=1419773522000&_r=0 - Breakthrough Replicates Human Brain Cells for Alzheimer's Research

[kikki]

Interesting, thanks Anjae.

[iamnottheenemy]

What I found interesting in the Portuguese one is that it is physical exercise that releases the enzyme that combats depression-causing stress.

[Anjae]

Yes, that is what they say. But, like with all science things, one thing alone will not do it and it is all still being under study. However I think it may help.

However, for MLC, I'm not sure it applies. Some of our MLCer have a lot of physical activity and it does not make their covert depression to go away.

[forthetrees]

Wow- this might explain why the female LBS gets more practical and compassionate as the MLC goes on and why the MLCer behavior spirals to ever greater heights of weirdness.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/19/opinion/sunday/are-women-better-decision-makers.html?action=click&contentCollection=Travel&module=MostEmailed&version=Full&region=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article

[kikki]

Well that's mighty interesting FTT.