[readytofixmyselffirst]

Absolutely not, power comes from perspectives even if I do not agree with them. I do not see you as the "enemy".  You are another person who made some bad choices.

It is not your marriage to Anna or your happiness now that I do not respect. Instead, it is the sneaky way that both of you went about your affair that I do not like.

Had you been honest and divorced your wife in the beginning rather than creating an unloving and uncaring environment where both of you suffered, I might have understood. Yet both you and your "new" wife chose to lie and cheat. To fabric a dishonesty rather than do the right thing. You hurt a lot of people in your quest for "happiness" when a lot could have been avoided in the first place.

I do wish you the best as having suffered great pain over these past two years, I could never wish that upon anyone else.

[True to myself]

Could I please ask of your relationship with your daughters now? How often do you see them and how do you get on?

[nesquick2]

hi wk  i was interested by this thread. thats why i asked you what i felt. im not judging you at all.how do you feel about answering our questions.and no i dont think you have over stayed your welcome at all

EDIT: AGREED You are welcomed here and I congragulate you for your patience and understanding of the people that are here.
I think that  you have  contributed to the knowledge here on our board. - OLDPILOT - Moderator.

[Rebel Yell]

I see all this as proof.
WK is obviously smart, very smart, very very smart!
Yet he still thinks with the wrong head.

[wkramer]

Could I please ask of your relationship with your daughters now? How often do you see them and how do you get on?

I get on great with my daughters and am delighted by what well rounded responsible adults they grew up to be.

I think (again in hindsight which is a wonderful thing) that I worked too hard when they were growing up and as a consequence didn't spend as much time with them as I now wish I had. What I did always do though was try to maximise the quality of the time we spent together. I knew people who would say they couldn't have done the amount of travelling I used to do "because of the kids" but as far as I could gather never actually did anything with them when they were at home.

I relocated back to the UK near the end of last year so I now see both daughters regularly, say at least 2 or 3 times a month, although that will change next year if my eldest daughter gets accepted in graduate school in the United States. That will be strange although I suppose it means I'll just be collecting even more frequent flier miles.

They also have a good relationship with my wife. In the summer they went to meet their "step grandparents" in Finland. (Is there such a thing as step-grandparents? Obviously since my eldest daughters are adults that isn't how they think of them. Perhaps "my wife's parents would have been a better description?)

[wkramer]

Yet he still thinks with the wrong head.

I'm obviously not that smart since I didn't understand this when I first read it.

Now I think I've got it!

Oh, and you're wrong. Although to be fair perhaps "he once thought with the wrong head" might not be entirely inaccurate!

[True to myself]

I'm so pleased to hear of your good relationship with your daughters. It also makes me believe you probably are not a MLCer.

My H has again not seen our D in months and does not attempt to contact her. She approached him first after the last episode, but when he would not do anything at all with her without OW present, D just had enough of it.

It's great that you are a proper father.

[Doc Hudson]

Let's just say that this guy is in MLC.

Wanting something to be true doesn't make it true.

I never said that.  In fact, I've noticed that there is a consistent disconnection between your replies and those of the people that you are conversing with.  Is English your primary language?   If English is not your primary language, then I will dismiss your mistake as a translation error.  Thank you.

[wkramer]

Let's just say that this guy is in MLC.

Wanting something to be true doesn't make it true.

I never said that.  In fact, I've noticed that there is a consistent disconnection between your replies and those of the people that you are conversing with.  Is English your primary language?   If English is not your primary language, then I will dismiss your mistake as a translation error.  Thank you.

I'm really not sure how to take this! I don't know what to make of your statement that there is a disconnection between my replies and the other people who post here.

Yes English is my primary language. It appears from your comments that I have not mastered its use despite 40-odd years of practice. All I have to say in my defence is that it's better than my Finnish and a lot better than my Arabic.

I acknowledge that you didn't actually say what I claimed. I personally think that "lets just say..." and "this guy is..." when written on a bulletin board are very close to meaning the same thing. However, that is my own interpretation and since that wasn't what you meant then my apologies for misquoting you.

[xyzcf]

I am sorry wkramer and all the others on this site, but I don't understand why wkramer continues to come here?
I have read through the threads, I know that perhaps some people are finding it interesting to engage in his story....

I guess it is just me...no need to read this thread if I don't want to. Although wkramer seems rather confrontational about his views.

I also wish to express...God does exist. I hope you discover that one day.