[hopingfourbetter]

Well LT is not as crazy as I thought it might be. Read todays posts it is not as wild as I imagined. Seems like a bunch of guys trying to work there way through this mess. Hfb

[rover77]

Thundarr...I don't envy you..once more into the fire..but maybe the Dude is right..in the greater scheme ?...what else can she do to you..?

[HeartsBlessing]

As for me, I'm stressed about Saturday.  I'm not hopeful, but this is......strange.  Probably just a cycle toward us but thats what stresses me.  Is there really no hope that this could be anything more?

Whether you realize it or not, Thundarr; you're allowing expectations to rise within you....and one of the lessons you learn is to have little to NO expectations.

MLC is a process that takes TIME to complete; and a watched pot never boils...so stop watching, and get on with your life.

If it works out, it does, if it doesn't, try again later.

You need to learn to just sit on the curb, eat your popcorn, and watch her whiz right by...if she stops to have a word or two or three with you, that's great, if not....the only person you can control is yourself, not anyone else.

It's not easy, and I know it's not; but getting stressed about it isn't going to help you at all, and MLC'ers for some reason have a "homing" device that picks up stress, raised expectations, and they will turn these on you every time.

You're still too focused on her; you haven't handed her lock, stock, and barrel to the Lord to work with...and as long as you hold on, you cannot let go.

I hope this helps.

Take care, it'll always work as it should; maybe not in the way you think it should, but one way or the other it'll work out.

[stayed]

If popcorn isn't your preferred spectator food, you can choose, we don't mind.  The point is Thundarr, try not to worry about it.  As everybody is telling you, you are having EXPECTATIONS... get rid of those things lad... they will make your heart hurt.  Some people have to give up on HOPE, as they simply cannot separate hope and expectations.  If that is what you have to do, then give it up.  Know though, you will be able to HOPE when you see a reason to do so.

Just go with the flow Thundarr... enjoy what you can of it.  If it happens super, if not... heck, maybe next time. 

hugs Stayed

[moc]

HB says:  sit on the curb, eat your popcorn, and watch her whiz right by....

Thundarr, she is so right as is STAYED.  It might be entertaining to to watch...you have seen some crazy stuff and it might be crazier...so enjoy your life.  No expectations and you will get thru it...you always have pal.  Brohan, you have come so far and I have seen tons of good things out of you.  I pray your weekend is good as we seem to be both going to enjoy some time away from the humdrum of life.  I am going out with my wife also.  Cheers pal, keep your chin up, don't look at her directly too much and LET HER PURSUE YOU!  ENJOY!

Ah heck, popcorn...get out a slab of ribs and crack open a cold one!

Peace my friend...do what Rider does...abide THE DUDE!

[Thundarr]

I'll have margaritas and nachos as my train-watching food.  Lol!!

I'm doing my best to drop expectations, but whether it's false hope or possibly the  stunning of Intuition I don't know but I sense something.  HB and Stayed  both said "if" and not that anything is hopeless I noticed.  I've seen miracles that have happened (in fact I am one as I should not have lived at birth due to being sooooo premature.  Or, maybe I didn't....) and see his work every day as I work for a Christian organization so i do still hold onto FAITH.  And, to me, with faith must come hope.  *sigh*

[stayed]

Nothing is EVER totally hopeless!  Sometimes what you hope for doesn't work out and something completely different does... and that becomes MORE THEN YOU EVER HOPED FOR!   Life is a miracle!  Joy is self induced!  We can be happy, sad, miserable, joyful... the choice is ours. 

I am pretty sure you will choose joy and happiness, it just makes life so much more pleasant.

hugs Stayed

[Doc Hudson]

As for me, I'm stressed about Saturday.  I'm not hopeful, but this is......strange.  Probably just a cycle toward us but thats what stresses me.  Is there really no hope that this could be anything more?

Whether you realize it or not, Thundarr; you're allowing expectations to rise within you....and one of the lessons you learn is to have little to NO expectations.

MLC is a process that takes TIME to complete; and a watched pot never boils...so stop watching, and get on with your life.

If it works out, it does, if it doesn't, try again later.

You need to learn to just sit on the curb, eat your popcorn, and watch her whiz right by...if she stops to have a word or two or three with you, that's great, if not....the only person you can control is yourself, not anyone else.

It's not easy, and I know it's not; but getting stressed about it isn't going to help you at all, and MLC'ers for some reason have a "homing" device that picks up stress, raised expectations, and they will turn these on you every time.

You're still too focused on her; you haven't handed her lock, stock, and barrel to the Lord to work with...and as long as you hold on, you cannot let go.

I hope this helps.

Take care, it'll always work as it should; maybe not in the way you think it should, but one way or the other it'll work out.

Thundarr, you are getting great advice.  You are still trying to hold on.  You have NOT let go.  Drop the rope.  Only then can you focus on not only surviving, but thriving, in these difficult times.  You are still trying to catch a whiff.  Stop it.

[Thundarr]

I understand, but it is SO hard not to be hopeful right now.  W called this morning to remind me about tomorrow and said she will pick me up at 10.  She also let slip that she "had" to get her nephew to help her with the furniture she recently bought.  Where was lawyer boy?  Again, this will be 6 weekends in a row she's spent with the kids instead of going to his and his W's house.  Why?

I'm more detached than I sound as this usually doesn't cross my mind,  but this is just so different.  She hasn't even rode in the same car as me in 5 months and now has planned a day.  I know there will likely beca huge dark cloud to this silver lining but what will be will be.

[hopingfourbetter]

Hey Thundarr,
  My wife and I have been doing things together and having some good times for a year now. There are ups and downs and and this is just going so slow, I have hope but I am still standing back and letting her come to me. I do know that you do not flip a switch and all is back to normal. We are both working towards the same goal but the process is slow. Maybe this is because we are still living together? Hfb