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Discussion Changing your name back?
OP: March 31, 2012, 11:52:10 PM
We focus on standing for marriage on this board so maybe this is not appropriate, but some like me are facing an unwanted divorce (or have been through one) so I hope this question is ok.

I am struggling with the decision of whether or not to change my last name back when the divorce is final.  I no longer want my H's name as I move forward with my life, BUT I also feel like it would be sad to have a different last name than my kids.  I want the three of us to feel like a family unit.  I also don't want them to feel like their name is bad in my eyes.  My kids are both teenage girls, so it's likely they'll get married someday and have different last names themselves, so I guess I could wait until that happens...but being stuck with the name of the "man" who betrayed me in every way possible would be tough.

My D17 was recently telling me about a woman she knows who divorced, and D thought it was weird that the woman kept her married name.  I told her it was probably for her kids' benefit.  So, I think D17 would totally understand if I change mine, but D14 is really struggling with this whole situation so I don't know how she would feel (and she wouldn't tell me unfortunately.  She's always "fine".)

So...I'm wondering if anyone would be willing to share if they changed their name back, how their kids felt, how much of a pain it was to have legally changed everywhere, etc.  I don't HAVE to make this decision now, but if I do change it back during the divorce there is no charge and it's just an easy way to get it done.  Thanks for your input!!
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Re: Changing your name back?
#1: March 31, 2012, 11:55:37 PM
When I left my first husband I kept his name and had people refer to me as Mrs XYZ( his name)

I had been that for so long and I felt it was good for the kids a well as it was their surname. For me personally I didnt feel any need to change back


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Re: Changing your name back?
#2: April 01, 2012, 12:52:47 AM
Faith - to be honest, I haven't thought about this for myself, but my mother had a MLC at the same age as my H.
I was in my 20's at the time, and living overseas, but my two younger siblings, still lived at home.  (with our father of course).
I know our Mother considered changing back to her maiden name, and we were all appalled. 
The Divorce made us feel that our lives had been a lie, and that we were losing our identities to some degree, but that would have been yet another blow.
A little different, as she was the one inflicting the wounds to begin with.
Personally, I think D14 would see it as further rejection of her previous security and identity.  I would perhaps wait until she was older.
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Re: Changing your name back?
#3: April 01, 2012, 02:32:49 AM
This is something I'm pondering also.
H already has a Mrs H before me and if he marries OW I don't want to remain a Mrs or Ms H while a new woman has taken on the name.
However, I do understand the children side of things also.  It's a tricky one.  Naturally, a descision we should never have needed to consider.
I'm thinking of legally changing mine.  He left almost a year ago so will be free to divorce me shortly.  I am trying to be ready for that day if and when it comes.  If I do change it I may see if I can still leave my married name in the school contact book so the kids don't feel the full brunt of it.
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Re: Changing your name back?
#4: April 01, 2012, 05:21:23 AM
My MLC W divorced me, we have two young kids, and she didn't think twice about her taking her old name back.  It's her way of showing that she is independent, and for her to be rid of me...  even though she is only living on my alimony, child support, and the house I pay for.

It's a blow for me when I read that she wanted that on the divorce papers that were served to me.

It's nice to know that 'normal' women think about the best of their kids when they choose to keep or change their name.

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Re: Changing your name back?
#5: April 01, 2012, 07:23:08 AM
I am going to present a different side of this issue, not to create controversy or upset or to judge anyone else, but because it is also a reality and another valid point in the discussion of last names. And, as a woman on a journey of healing to reclaim yourself, perhaps this perspective will also be of some interest.

As someone who teaches women's studies and has been passionate about it for a long time, I knew since Junior High School that the original reason that women and children's last names were that of the husband/father was to denote ownership. I understand that that is not the reason 99.9% of the people share a surname today, but it is the history and many cultures have done perfectly fine not having the same surname or even having children and parents share any last name. In addition, it has been much harder to track women through history and family trees (even for something as simple as a class reunion), because they do not keep the same surname through life. Cemeteries and church records are filled with Mrs. John Smiths or other similar names. No one even knows the original first or last name of the woman lying in that grave.  She ceased to exist. And if John Smith had three wives in his life, each might be buried next to him with only his name on their grave--equally unknown. I have professional friends who have been impacted career-wise by changing their name when they married, because any prior research and professional successes, writings, etc. are under their birth name and usually no longer associated with them. Then there is the issue of changing driver's license, social security cards and every other record when a woman changes her name at marriage and if she changes it for a subsequent marriage or goes back to her original name. 

I experienced a defining moment as a teenager.  After years of humiliating affairs, my father left my mother and my sisters and me for his 20-year old secretary. Yes, very MLC cliche.  A few years later, my mother remarried, but her second husband's last name sounded ridiculous with her first name. She did not want to change it and was very upset, but never even considered simply not changing it.  So when her second husband misappropriated an inheritance to send my sisters and me to college, among other things, my mother filed for divorce. She could not wait to change her name and I assumed she was changing it back to her "maiden" name (which is what I hoped for her own sense of self and for mine as a young woman, frankly). Instead, she changed it back to my father's last name. I was now about 16 or 17 and asked her why she did that.  She looked at me with such pain and said, "No one has hurt or humiliated me more than he did, but I don't have an identity except for having been his wife. I am nobody if I have my maiden name." My heart broke for her and other women who feel the same or who have been made to feel the same. Do not assume your children will not understand this. I was much more upset that my mother felt compelled to continue to be Mrs. XYZ, and still is today despite having a wonderful man in her life for 30 years. Because she chose not to marry again--they maintain separate residences as well--she carries the name of the man who divorced her long ago while loving someone else for 18 years longer than she and father were even married.

Certainly, I am assuming nothing about the members of this forum nor anyone's motivation and I understand the tradition and assumed simplicity of having the same surname, but as someone who did not even consider changing my name when I married, I can tell you it has not caused me a moment of regret or complication. Interestingly, I had assumed that D would have a hyphenated last name, but when she was born, H. said he was not attached to his name that way and felt her first name sounded better with my last name and not hyphenated. Plus, he said, "Any man who sees a woman give birth, should know that a child should have their mother's name."  :) (That was the man I married and miss).   

So, while I understand the emotional connection and what it connotes to change one's name, perhaps there is also something in what I have shared that will be of help to those who really do need or want to return to the last name they had at birth.  Something that some women with children do is to change back to their maiden name but continue to use both while transitioning slowly just to the maiden name (not hyphenated, but like: Jane Smith Jones--with Jones being their maiden name). Or list your name in school directories and the like as: Jane (Smith) Jones.  It is very commen today for women to keep their own name, for children's names and parent's names not to be the same, blended families, etc. My H. has always had a different last name from our D since she has mine, and it was never a concern or a problem for her, him or me.   

Whatever one chooses is a personal decision for one's own reasons, but I would caution any woman feeling forced into changing her name for marriage as a demonstration of love or commitment or feelings that you are abandoning standing or your commitment to your H. Or a man who believes a woman should change her name at marriage "if she really loved me." One has nothing to do with the others, in my opinion and that feels possessive to me. Most men would not opt to change their names to their wife's nor would women expect it. The same reasons apply to women who wish to keep the identity with which we were born.

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Re: Changing your name back?
#6: April 01, 2012, 08:26:00 AM
I have already decided to change my surname if H divorces me. There is nothing I wish for more than our reconciliation but I am not keeping his surname if that does not happen. I will not be going back to my maiden name either. I have already picked my new surname  ;) My girls are 15 and 13 and are really for the change if it happens as neither of them thinks I should keep my married name. H's mum kept hers and we have always found it odd as she cannot stand her ex. Having the same name makes us no more of a family as H leaving proves. Please note I reserve the right to change my mind at any time as with anything related to this MLC rubbish  ::) ;) :)
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Re: Changing your name back?
#7: April 01, 2012, 08:39:22 AM
I decided to keep my married name until D16 is out of high school ( two more years) It just makes it easier for school right now. And I felt if I did it right after the divorce the kids would feel even more abandoned (even though they said they would be OK with it) . In two years maybe I'll know who the F I am.

It's easy to do just take a copy of divorce with you wherever you want to have your name changed. As a matter of fact since I was married before the lawyer told me I could assume any of the last names I had.  But this is New York State :o

My first husband was pissed when I took my name back- I don't know why he screwed around on me and left me. I guess he was just trying to collect women who would have his last name as the next two he went on to marry probably did. His family was very wealthy so he probably felt entitled.

Frankly I never changed my name with social security; so that's already in my maiden name.
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Re: Changing your name back?
#8: April 01, 2012, 09:27:29 AM
I was "forced" to make this decision when I returned the response to my H's divorce petition.

Apparently, in California (don't know about other states), if you make the decision to change your name when you file the response - there is no cost $$ to do so.  Otherwise, if you decide later - you have to pay additional fees.

So, I don't know if it was to "punish" him - or to send a message to him (ridiculous, right?) - but I decided to return to my maiden name - if and when my H's divorce goes through.

My kids are adults.  Even though I have been my married name longer than I was my maiden name (20 years as my maiden name, 32 years as my married name) - if this is truly it....meaning we are DONE - I don't want to keep HIS name.  I just don't.

Silly?  Probably.  My work career ONLY knows me as my married name.  But, that was the decision that I made.  Only my Son will keep the name - the girls will eventually marry and have a different name, anyway.

Just thinking about this entire mess - makes me think of what a jerk my H is! >:( >:(

I need to remember - MLC, MLC, MLC.  Unconditionals.  Unconditional love.

Right!  He's a real A$$!

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Re: Changing your name back?
#9: April 01, 2012, 11:55:21 AM
I don´t have kids and I kept my maiden name all along. If I did have kids, I think I would still retake my maiden name. It would be too hard to carry that burden in addition to the rest of the MLC mess. I´d be tempted to invite my kids to change their names as well. F-´em if they ditch, they ditch the name claim as well- IMHO. This sounds harsh, but your name becomes an integral part of one´s identity.

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