[justasking]

The journey for males through MLC is to reconnect with the anima, their femail side of their emotions. Thropughout life they have learnt to hide their emotions and be recognisable by their role in,life i.e job, father etc. Most, if not all, have been told and learnt throughout their lives that emotion and crying is not acceptable, which has brough us here. Not sure how alpha male fits in with this researched concept.

I think DGU is right. Can't see how it links with MLC at all. Bet it sells his books though, or is that me being cynical 

[honour]

http://marriedmansexlife.com/take-the-red-pill/

Anyway, please check out the link and share both your opinions as well as observations from female friends.  Thanks!!

Bet it sells his books though, or is that me being cynical 

No I don't think it's you being cynical JA.
I had a quick scan and found a couple of nuggets. Is this site a joke?

From the section entitled Destabilizing Your Relationship For Fun And pu$$y
"Women can of course easily add an extra point or two to their own Sex Rank by simply being more excited in bed, having sex more often and generally riding your disco stick on command."

Item number 2 in his list of 10 Critical Things In How To Choose a Wife
"2. B Cup Breasts. Overall the potential wife needs to be attractive and good looking. After all you’re going to be looking at that face and ass for 50+ years, so she better be tasty as you can get. My basic handle on this is B Cup breasts."

MMSL is shallow at best and harmful at worst.

honour

[FindingJoJo]

To make him jealous:  I was going to get 2nd hand men's clothing & leave it around the house.  You know, really long legged jeans, size 12 boots...made me laugh at least.

Now that is funny and yeah making them jealous without actually going against my marriage in reality has crossed my mind - lol.

[calamity]

Thundarr--what women want in a mate.  A cup of tea in the morning?  Consistent thoughtfulness goes a lot farther than 'alpha' behaviour.

[In this for ME]

I don't find anything remotely on target for me at all in what they say women want. I think sometimes this stuff is for 20- 30 year olds.

Any book I put any stock in says it's the woman who needs to send the signals to the man; even though some of my experience has been I always let the man lead. It does help me respond better but EXH is very submissive (as am I) so it takes a lot for one of us to make the first move.

I simply find intelligence and someone who listens ( and doesn't try to FIX whats wrong) Let's me cry and have feelings instead of trying to logic me out of those feelings (or dismiss them as not making sense) and has a good sense of humor attractive sexually. Thoughtfulness is a big plus also.
I do put some stock in the physical body aspect but not a lot.

[Thundarr]

I believe the connection between this site and MLC is not necessarily direct in that it seems that many gravitate to this line of thinking due to taking responsibility or blame for the fact that our W's left us either for an OM or to be alone.  I admit I haven't read a whole lot of this guy's writings, but the parts I have that are related to what women want in a man were very painful for me.  I am less "alpha" than I was when my W and I first met, but being a father and husband who has shared in the child rearing and domestic duties ever since we started living together will do that for you.  It would appear that this guy's assertion that these traits are not what women desire in a man could be very destructive to relationships if his advice is followed and men start acting like self-centered a-holes rather than domestic partners.  I think Ready said it a bit more directly, but treating a female partner as if she is subordinate or inferior to me is not an option.  I've always thought guys who did that were actually compensating for a low self esteem or perhaps a lack of endowment (and I don't mean financial).

[calamity]

You said:  I believe the connection between this site and MLC is not necessarily direct in that it seems that many gravitate to this line of thinking due to taking responsibility or blame for the fact that our W's left us either for an OM or to be alone. .

But the responsibility or blame is not for the LBS to take.  Any time I start down that road I think, I was good enuf for 30 years, this has happened to much nicer, prettier, richer people...

I mean, work on things you don't like about your behaviour but you cannot change your character & be mr. macho...

[In this for ME]

Well I always told exh : he'd make a man out of me yet with all the crap I used to do:

 take out the garbage, pay the bills , paint, load the outdoor wood furnace, mow the lawn etc etc..

AND HE DID.

I felt less like a woman and lost a lot of what I would consider feminine quailties. I'm not very big and to do a lot  physical labor is diffucult for me but I usually struggle and give it my best shot.

Now I just say "I'm too short to do that" etc...

But now he rarely lets me do those things like mow, take out the garbage, etc....so there has been a change.
 I don't want to portray women as a weaker sex; the deal is I think the lines are blurred on so many levels that it makes it hard for women ( AND men) to find the balance.

EXH was ALWAYS involved with the girls from tiny babies and I found that extremely attractive.

 But I can understand how things get confused for men when they usually are expected to provide for a family..then kids come along and whatever edge they may have had in that masculine role is sometimes overcome by the emotion of interacting with small childern.

I also left out the other things that mean a lot to me in a relationship is a willingness to EXPRESS emotion by the man.

Most Alpha males are a-holes ( and posers if the truth be known) as far as I'm concerned and I can spot them a mile away.

[Thundarr]

My W used to point out that I was sentimental and would sometimes (rarely) cry over certain issues such as when D19 graduated from middle school or when something really hit a heart string.  She would say something like "Daddy is so sentimental."  She never really acted as if that was such a big deal or if it was something she liked, but she did notice it and sometimes kidded me about it.  After BD, she said some of the most horrible things I could ever imagine and one thing in particular I can't even remember really, really hurt my feelings and although I didn't cry I did tear up.  W said "Oh, look at that sad face.  That sad, ugly, ugly face!!  Go ahead and cry.  You are so pathetic." 

Okay. That memory hurts alot to this day.

[In this for ME]

Gee T I'm really sorry she said that........they say THE most hurtful hateful things.

She would say something like "Daddy is so sentimental."  She never really acted as if that was such a big deal or if it was something she liked, but she did notice it and sometimes kidded me about it.

SHE let her own self get in the way of a response that may have made YOU feel safer to express that side of yourself. What if she had said:

 " Daddy is so sentimental...and I LOVE that about him!"

 Would that have helped?? Would you have expressed yourself more often???