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#20: August 30, 2012, 12:31:55 PM
Chickpea, I also get a lot of the same you do. I asked what you've asked about my marriage and got: 33 - Thirty-Three
Tun / Retreat - The tranquil Mountain towers overhead, yet remains this side of Heaven:
The Superior Person avoids the petty and superficial by keeping shallow men at a distance, not in anger but with dignity.

Such a retreat sweeps the path clear to Success.
Occupy yourself with minute detail.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:

Retreat in this instance is not a desperate flight in disarray, but a conscious choice to distance yourself from forces that would rob you of your peace.
It is not a surrender, but a regrouping.
Retreat from this conflict is actually an advance toward your own center.
You move toward balance, and thus a much stronger position.

This makes a lot of sense to me. As for your loveless marriage, like Mermaid said, it reflects current time, everything changes with time. And in a way, currently your marriage is loveless. That does not mean it will always be that way.

Mermaid, agree with you, there is an undercurrent of this Taoist philosophy in this site.

In addiction to the site Mermaid used I tend to use http://www.ichingreading.net/. it will give to hexagrams, one for instructions and the other for references.
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle-Thread 2
#21: May 30, 2013, 02:33:34 PM
Great bumping op, I have recently discovered I Ching online and it's pretty weird the answers I've been getting!

Here's one answer:

You must now endure this Dangling -- either a carrot before your nose, or a sword above your head.
This strange mix of apprehension and anticipation is a Purgatory.
There is nothing more you can do to affect the outcome.
You must now submit to the Fates.

Now another asking when my h might return:


Transformed Hexagram:


58 - Fifty-Eight
Tui / Empowering

The joyous Lake spans on and on to the horizon:
The Superior Person renews and expands his Spirit through heart-to-heart exchanges with others.

Success if you stay on course.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:


This is the sign of true companionship.
The principals in this situation exchange energy, ideas and feelings, constantly invigorating and encouraging each other to new heights of Spiritual achievement and Self-discovery.
This exchange is not for the glory of the Team, but for furthering the process of each individual's 'Te', or pure potentiality.


Changing Lines:


There is One Changing Line.

Hexagram Forty-Seven/Line One:


He rests beneath a dead tree, trying to make sense of this dark, desolate valley he has strayed into.
These lost wanderings will last three years.


Can anyone explain to me whether the transformed hexagram takes precedence over the cast hexagram?


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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle-Thread 2
#22: May 30, 2013, 04:49:24 PM
Just yesterday, I googled 'what is I ching' and today the discussion appears before me (having been bumped ) :D. Yesterday I was confused and not sure if I was reading it right or what I was supposed to be reading.  It might have been the website I went to.  Is there any website that anyone would recommend for a complete novice like myself?
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle-Thread 2
#24: May 30, 2013, 05:53:25 PM
OK this is intriguing to me.  I tried yesterday, without knowing a lot (other than what i read on the website) about the i ching.  i got the "loveless marriage" answer when i asked something about my H.  I didn't login, so my question was not saved. 

today, i asked the "what strategy should i use for the next 30 days"--shamelessly purloined from one of the posts here--and here's what i got:

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The Flood rises above the tallest Tree:
Amidst a rising tide of human folly, the Superior Person retires to higher ground, renouncing his world without looking back.

Any direction is better than where you now stand.

wow!  good to know that the i ching is in the moment...kind of makes me question my stand, though.

within the next 30 days, i am set to close on a new house, move out of the "matrimonial domicile"--to use the legalese--finish up the school year and start planning for the next, so I do have a lot going on.  i am in hurry-up mode so that i can legally use some of my money to put toward a downpayment for this new house; my attorneys are filing motions, etc., and i am pushing this through.

to explain:  i currently live in the house where my h grew up.  H moved in here when he was 7, i think.  H's father affaired around on H's mother, H's parents fought constantly--knock down drag outs, apparently, with potential physical abuse and definite verbal abuse, and dish-throwing, and H and his sister (who is just as messed up as H) sat on the stairs and listened and probably feared for their lives.  so, we bought this house from H's mother (she got the house in her divorce) and moved in, bag and baggage, and at the time one small child.  now, 11 years later--history has repeated itself and i'm getting the hell out of this amityville horror of a house. 

i found a house that i LOVE, several blocks away from where i currently live with my 3D--so no change of neighborhood but a definite step up in terms of neighbors and surrounding homes.  i walked into this house and just knew right away that this was the place for me.  i was not even actively looking for a new home, just happened to drive by, saw the for sale sign, ran into a realtor acquaintance...it was kind of like the stars lined up for me to find this house, scrape money together, and make an offer that was accepted.  so i am set to close on july 1. 

so that's my story.  maybe the "where i now stand" part refers to me living in the matrimonial domicile, across the street from OW's exH and OW's former home, where she and H got it on...i could vomit.  rather than vomit, though, i think i'll just move.

Keepin' on the sunny side...
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle-Thread 2
#25: May 30, 2013, 08:25:07 PM
Tried this tonight...asked a question about my partner and the ow/ their marriage/is he happy? (they got married Dec. 28th)

Here was answer: 
- Warmth and light are swallowed by darkness

- Stay true to your course despite visible obstacles ahead

-This time calls for a saintly effort to turn the other cheek

- You have been deliberately injured, abstain from vengeance, show all watching that you are above it

- Sidestep the aggressor's headlong charge, giving him the opportunity to fall on his face

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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle-Thread 2
#26: May 31, 2013, 12:27:17 AM
Oh it's so cool! Broke hearted I love it!

The fact this thread got bumped is pure synchronicity for me!

Last night i asked, will h and i love again? I got:



Transformed Hexagram:

18 - Eighteen
Ku / Repairing the Damage

Winds sweep through the Mountain valley:
The Superior Person sweeps away corruption and stagnation by stirring up the people and strengthening their spirit.

Supreme success.
Before crossing to the far shore, consider the move for three days.
After crossing, devote three days of hard labor to damage control.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:

You are blessed with an opportunity to resuscitate that which others have abandoned as beyond repair.
This ruin wasn't caused by evil intention, but by indifference to decay.
Just by addressing yourself to the problem, you exhibit a new awareness, a fresh perspective.
This is a time of recovery, renewal, regeneration.
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