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#20: August 31, 2010, 06:36:49 AM
SK,

You are correct, there are true psychic people out there but to answer a few previous posts, they are NOT all of the devil, or even witches.

I've seen and detected ones who are of the devil and I have also dealt with a few witches in my time...and that is an experience....all contain demons within..but their "seeing" was flawed, as the devil and his minions CANNOT see the future at all; only the past.

I'm not getting onto anyone for their beliefs; each one is entitled to what they believe; but God has a way of opening your eyes to some simple truths.....I used to believe this way, as well, before my eyes were opened by the Lord, when He sent a lady that utilized ALL the gifts that I had been taught as a girl were of the devil; she had the ability to see the past, and the future; she could see auras, as well as being empathic, and a healer ....yet, God sent her to ME...supplying her with everything she needed to help me through...and, from what I later understood, He PUSHED her toward me, and convinced her to help and stay with me UNTIL I developed some of these same gifts that she had.

I came to the understanding, as she helped me through my husband's MLC, that ALL gifts come from God; but it is up to the individual whether they use them for good or for evil.  God gives gifts WITHOUT repentance, which means He doesn't take them back, but He CAN diminish those gifts if they are not used for His Glory.

That's why what you perceive as a "flawed vessel" or a backslidden Christian, is still able to exercise their gifts, although in a limited sort of fashion.

The only thing that He did tell me about her after I was more able to hear and heed Him, was that her beliefs were "mixed" but it was not my job to try and turn her...but to understand, when she said things that I knew weren't exactly on the line, to more or less overlook these things.
The outcome, through this lady, was revealed to me in the beginning, but NOT the paths I had to walk to get there...so, though, you may know the outcome, you will NOT know ALL you have to go through to get to that end...and anything can change at ANY time to alter said outcome and/or even add time to it.

I "see" and "know"  things at times; does this make me a witch, or used of the devil?  I don't think so...God shows me what He wants me to see/hear...and sometimes it involves seeing into the future for whatever reason He needs me to do that....I don't use divination, I simply rely on hearing Him..and though, I don't see everything, I see enough to help someone with whatever problem they have, IF it is the Lord's Will that I'm to do this.

I see some things for some, but not for all....some people get the benefit of my experience,  but then, some people; like Covenant Keeper, for example, get the benefit of hearing from God Himself through me, although SHE hears Him just as clearly as I do.

And some people, I draw a total blank for.  It's not by chance that I land on someone's thread to post something to them...when I come in, He directs me where to go...and I go where He says go.

To attribute things of God to the devil is to invite trouble into your life....if you're truly discerning, you'll KNOW what is of God, and what is of the devil.

Some psychics are limited in what they can do, and so they "fill in" the blanks...some are much stronger, but know this: for every spiritual gift a person receives, there is a physical price that is  paid for it...and that is why some psychics stay sick alot..it takes a LOT of spiritual energy to power the gift of  foretelling...and it's tiring to use.

I haven't mentioned the tarot nor the Iching that's mentioned here.....it is NOT my place to judge this usage of tarot cards, but I WOULD stay totally AWAY from a Ouija Board, if anyone has any thoughts about that...it will open doors to the demonic world that you cannot close, as demonic spirits inhabit this board, and come through using this type of medium.

I've got a bad memory of a Ouija Board from the time I was a little girl of about 12 or 13; one of my friends had gotten one for Christmas, and she convinced me to play with her on it.....long story short, the thing you put your hands on,(I THINK it's called an "oracle" or something like that) literally JUMPED off the board and flew out the school bus window...wasn't long before the entire board and box joined it...and the little girl who had it ended up on the front seat of the bus, as the bus driver didn't like people throwing things out of the window...or that was what he THOUGHT he saw.

My grandmother used to tell the future using a straight deck of cards, her mother before her did this, too....and for awhile, when I was much younger, I was able to do the same thing; yet, as the gift I carry now developed in time, the cards weren't needed.

I also have an aunt who is a "dreamer of dreams" and these contain actual events that come to pass at a later time; she is also gifted with Prophecy, and the presence of the Lord around her is something to behold, as she is strong within Him.

There are times when knowledge of the future is needed, but GOD will determine those times; as when He does that, a person needs to prepare themselves for a certain outcome to come about, as it lines itself up with HIS WILL. 

Usually when He does that, the path is set in stone for a time, at a point of no return, but if you don't do as He instructs, it will change the outcome for something you didn't intend to happen..and you will recycle right back toward the same battle/event once again to get to do it all over again.

I've been there, and had that happen before.

The future, such as it is, is liquid and can be changed at any time; and it is always changing...whereas the past is set in stone.

Now, there are certain things that are meant to happen, and these are on a path of no return...you might avoid them for awhile, but eventually they will catch up with you.

There came a time in my search for answers that NOTHING turned up, and it was what it was supposed to be....I was to rejoice and be glad in the day the Lord had made; and get on with it.

It took time, but I was able to do that, and you will too, SK.

You had talked about being "hooked" on this..and to some extent, it would be an addiction, especially with the pain you've experienced, and are STILL experiencing.

BUT-understand there were things you weren't being told, and you weren't meant to know them....I've been warned that way before when talking with someone...I'd see certain things, but not be able to reveal them...to do that would change the path they were on for the worse...but I would see these things in order to be able to pray for them effectively.

You are right that you need to learn to trust yourself, and God, who is also your intuition will show you what you need to do when you need to do it.

If and when you need confirmation of what you are feeling; God will send someone to do just that for you...but only when you need it the most.

Take care.  :)



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Re: Psychics & Tarot
#21: August 31, 2010, 07:57:18 AM
My input on this is that my belief about psychics is based on what I read in the Bible.  I do not have any experience with a psychic.

I believe people can (and will) make their own decisions regarding psychics, and that decision is up to them.  I will list a few of the scriptures from the Bible regarding this subject.  If anyone is interested, they can read them for themselves and use that wisdom to make a decision based on your own belief.

Leviticus 19:31
Leviticus 20:27
2 Chronicles 33:6
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Re: Psychics & Tarot
#22: August 31, 2010, 09:39:02 AM
HB thanks for sharing, your words are very powerful.

The physic I speak to is such a lovely person, however she is often ill - she suffers from ME, is confined to a wheelchair.  When she crashes she cannot speak to anyone. 

With regards to dreams, recently I have been having a lot of powerful dreams - they feel so real that when I wake up it takes a while for me to realise where I am.

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Re: Psychics & Tarot
#23: August 31, 2010, 01:51:59 PM
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With regards to dreams, recently I have been having a lot of powerful dreams - they feel so real that when I wake up it takes a while for me to realise where I am

Keep a journal of these. When a dream feels "different", it usually means something. The meaning is not always apparent, however. Reading back over your dream journal at the end of a week, and relating those dreams to your thoughts, feelings and actions, will enable you to understand them more readily over time. AND this is another way to put your focus on yourself!
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Re: Psychics & Tarot
#24: September 01, 2010, 02:31:50 AM
The last two really strong dreams happend over the last two weeks, they were both about my ex.  They felt so real that and they were happy.  It me a while when I woke up I had only been dreaming.
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Off Topic - Astrology/Tarot
#25: May 16, 2011, 06:27:22 AM
Does anyone else have any thoughts on astrology and Tarot?  I've always viewed as entertainment, had daily horoscopes, sometimes I would refer to them as "horrorscopes" delivered via emai  but never really took them seriously, half the time just deleted without reading.  As a Christian I believe no false prophecy, however if astrology is based on the stars, that is a Godly creation.  Today, I open email and what do I get but a Tarot card reading I haven't looked at in months.  I don't even know why I opened the email (I think they all come through IVillage and I checked  them years ago when the net was just booming, I signed up, and my daughter was little and they prompt you through selecting things of interest and I didn't want to be bombarded by spam so I thought daily scopes would be something fun in the inbox).

Anyhow this is what mine was this morning, when I am to met with attorney in a few hours about financial security with the NC separation but not wanting to file for D.  Seems eerie.
 
"The Tower card suggests that your relationship may be in crisis, and this is your wake-up call. You can't go on fooling yourself any longer, and if you don't break up, you will certainly be on a rocky path if you don't work on what affects your very foundation. The impact may be severe, for while you feel secure, something unforeseen, sudden and dramatic may come to dispel your illusions. It may be a catastrophic experience, but you can rebuild this relationship into a better and stronger one if you take drastic measures or pull together to salvage what you can. This is a time where you can see if you have the right stuff. You might be pleasantly surprised to discover your own capacity for resourcefulness, dignity, creativity and generosity."

Again, let me stress, religiously, personally, I'm not sure how much credence to pay to astrology but was very curious if anyone else is a follower and how it iimpacts your life and decisions.  I have never let it impact any life decisions but I know people who do.
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Re: Off Topic - Astrology/Tarot
#26: May 16, 2011, 06:36:09 AM
I think, whether you are a Christian or not, it is important to be careful of using Astrology and the Tarot as predictive tools. First of all, there is no scientific evidence for their use in this way. Secondly, Christians are discouraged from using it, and thirdly, it distracts you from your changing, developing path.

However, it can be used as a reflective tool, to stimulate you to think about things which may be (semi) buried in your subsconsciousness, and take wise and appropriate action. Jung, who was a Christian, used the iChing this way, drawing on the idea of synchronicity (meaningful coincidences) to use the iChing in making sense of a situation.

We've had a thread about this, which I'll bump up, and another about astrology. Meanwhile, here's the link:
http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=218.0;all
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Re: Off Topic - Astrology/Tarot
#27: May 16, 2011, 06:56:49 AM
Thanks Mermaid.  Just as an FYI  - what I saw in it was more of affirmation of what I'm going through now.

 Like I said, I always saw it as entertainment, this just struck me as, well, eerie is the only way to describe it this morning.  My interpretation of it is basically everything to your foundation is being shaken and we may  hit bottom but if dedicated the relationship can survive and be stronger. Seeing my own faults and strengths and who knows, maybe it is as simple as in my state financially and custody wise, a D would be such a catastrophic  experience  it will help me dig in my  heels though the tough spots, OK, I was going to to do that anyway as an intended stander, but since H is such a money guy, if he contacts an attorney and is told the same thing  it may help hm literally, get a grip.  He's the one that contacted a "free phone consult" attorney before moving out rather than pay someone for a full consult to save a few bucks.

I will check the thread you are posting after attorney appointment.  I'm not desperately seeking guidance through astrology, or going to make any life decisions based on it, this was just weird, and food for thought, discussion.
Notice though, I'm automatically thinking this is to do with H, it could very likely be a relationship with another family member as well.  All in the mindset, I guess ;)
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Re: Psychics & Tarot
#28: May 16, 2011, 07:17:02 AM
I think this is the thread that we had going so I put your posts together in this thread.
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Tarot etc
#29: February 14, 2012, 07:46:13 AM
I know this subject has been discussed before, but I've just been re-reading the original post I put together in 2010 - sorry I don't know how to get it out of the archieves.

EDIT - Luckily I DO - Merged - OP

As some of you know I have had a downward slip over the last two weeks by phoning tarot - each phone reading I had gave me different answers; I have got to the point where it scares me and I don't trust myself to the point where I am considering getting help.

Anyway I came across this reply from HB, which more sense to me now then it did back then - perhaps I was guided back to here:

You are correct, there are true psychic people out there but to answer a few previous posts, they are NOT all of the devil, or even witches.

I've seen and detected ones who are of the devil and I have also dealt with a few witches in my time...and that is an experience....all contain demons within..but their "seeing" was flawed, as the devil and his minions CANNOT see the future at all; only the past.

I'm not getting onto anyone for their beliefs; each one is entitled to what they believe; but God has a way of opening your eyes to some simple truths.....I used to believe this way, as well, before my eyes were opened by the Lord, when He sent a lady that utilized ALL the gifts that I had been taught as a girl were of the devil; she had the ability to see the past, and the future; she could see auras, as well as being empathic, and a healer ....yet, God sent her to ME...supplying her with everything she needed to help me through...and, from what I later understood, He PUSHED her toward me, and convinced her to help and stay with me UNTIL I developed some of these same gifts that she had.

I came to the understanding, as she helped me through my husband's MLC, that ALL gifts come from God; but it is up to the individual whether they use them for good or for evil.  God gives gifts WITHOUT repentance, which means He doesn't take them back, but He CAN diminish those gifts if they are not used for His Glory.

That's why what you perceive as a "flawed vessel" or a backslidden Christian, is still able to exercise their gifts, although in a limited sort of fashion.

The only thing that He did tell me about her after I was more able to hear and heed Him, was that her beliefs were "mixed" but it was not my job to try and turn her...but to understand, when she said things that I knew weren't exactly on the line, to more or less overlook these things.
The outcome, through this lady, was revealed to me in the beginning, but NOT the paths I had to walk to get there...so, though, you may know the outcome, you will NOT know ALL you have to go through to get to that end...and anything can change at ANY time to alter said outcome and/or even add time to it.

I "see" and "know"  things at times; does this make me a witch, or used of the devil?  I don't think so...God shows me what He wants me to see/hear...and sometimes it involves seeing into the future for whatever reason He needs me to do that....I don't use divination, I simply rely on hearing Him..and though, I don't see everything, I see enough to help someone with whatever problem they have, IF it is the Lord's Will that I'm to do this.

I see some things for some, but not for all....some people get the benefit of my experience,  but then, some people; like Covenant Keeper, for example, get the benefit of hearing from God Himself through me, although SHE hears Him just as clearly as I do.

And some people, I draw a total blank for.  It's not by chance that I land on someone's thread to post something to them...when I come in, He directs me where to go...and I go where He says go.

To attribute things of God to the devil is to invite trouble into your life....if you're truly discerning, you'll KNOW what is of God, and what is of the devil.

Some psychics are limited in what they can do, and so they "fill in" the blanks...some are much stronger, but know this: for every spiritual gift a person receives, there is a physical price that is  paid for it...and that is why some psychics stay sick alot..it takes a LOT of spiritual energy to power the gift of  foretelling...and it's tiring to use.

I haven't mentioned the tarot nor the Iching that's mentioned here.....it is NOT my place to judge this usage of tarot cards, but I WOULD stay totally AWAY from a Ouija Board, if anyone has any thoughts about that...it will open doors to the demonic world that you cannot close, as demonic spirits inhabit this board, and come through using this type of medium.

I've got a bad memory of a Ouija Board from the time I was a little girl of about 12 or 13; one of my friends had gotten one for Christmas, and she convinced me to play with her on it.....long story short, the thing you put your hands on,(I THINK it's called an "oracle" or something like that) literally JUMPED off the board and flew out the school bus window...wasn't long before the entire board and box joined it...and the little girl who had it ended up on the front seat of the bus, as the bus driver didn't like people throwing things out of the window...or that was what he THOUGHT he saw.

My grandmother used to tell the future using a straight deck of cards, her mother before her did this, too....and for awhile, when I was much younger, I was able to do the same thing; yet, as the gift I carry now developed in time, the cards weren't needed.

I also have an aunt who is a "dreamer of dreams" and these contain actual events that come to pass at a later time; she is also gifted with Prophecy, and the presence of the Lord around her is something to behold, as she is strong within Him.

There are times when knowledge of the future is needed, but GOD will determine those times; as when He does that, a person needs to prepare themselves for a certain outcome to come about, as it lines itself up with HIS WILL. 

Usually when He does that, the path is set in stone for a time, at a point of no return, but if you don't do as He instructs, it will change the outcome for something you didn't intend to happen..and you will recycle right back toward the same battle/event once again to get to do it all over again.

I've been there, and had that happen before.

The future, such as it is, is liquid and can be changed at any time; and it is always changing...whereas the past is set in stone.

Now, there are certain things that are meant to happen, and these are on a path of no return...you might avoid them for awhile, but eventually they will catch up with you.

There came a time in my search for answers that NOTHING turned up, and it was what it was supposed to be....I was to rejoice and be glad in the day the Lord had made; and get on with it.

It took time, but I was able to do that, and you will too, SK.

You had talked about being "hooked" on this..and to some extent, it would be an addiction, especially with the pain you've experienced, and are STILL experiencing.

BUT-understand there were things you weren't being told, and you weren't meant to know them....I've been warned that way before when talking with someone...I'd see certain things, but not be able to reveal them...to do that would change the path they were on for the worse...but I would see these things in order to be able to pray for them effectively.

You are right that you need to learn to trust yourself, and God, who is also your intuition will show you what you need to do when you need to do it.

If and when you need confirmation of what you are feeling; God will send someone to do just that for you...but only when you need it the most.
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