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#10: August 24, 2010, 05:32:58 AM
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What do non MLC divorces look like? Are they similar?

I don't have the answer to that question. However, I have known many, many people who have divorced that it was an agreement between the two that it was in the best interest of everyone. I would hope that most people who divorce decide together.

On the other hand, my own daughter was blindsided by a divorce request in her 3rd year of marriage. No real reason....he just wasn't happy. Now, he is doing all he can to be her friend and to date. They are in their early 20's, so no MLC component.
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Re: Low Energy MLC'er
#11: January 31, 2011, 07:17:38 AM
Thank you for bumping it up.  I would love to read Amazing's thread but don't have access to it.  Can it be posted here?

I have a low energy MLCer for sure!!  I am at work so I will post more later tonight.  He is peeking out right now and beginning to see just how much he has missed - like he was in a time warp or something.  Interesting... 

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Re: Low Energy MLC'er
#12: January 31, 2011, 08:25:19 AM
Amazing has never posted here. Her story is only in the Coaching Archives and was mostly through email. She continued to PM me for awhile but never put her story public on this board, so I did not continue to make her PMs public. I had permission for making the emails public from all those in the Archives that I worked with before the start of the forum.
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Re: Low Energy MLC'er
#13: January 31, 2011, 08:52:10 AM
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I have a low energy MLCer for sure!!  I am at work so I will post more later tonight.  He is peeking out right now and beginning to see just how much he has missed - like he was in a time warp or something.  Interesting...

Pup,

I am anxious to read your observations when you have time. Is this the first time you have seen this? Might it be a touch and go?
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Re: Low Energy MLC'er
#14: February 01, 2011, 11:40:24 AM
Hello Still and Everyone!

Well - are things better?  A smidgen. 

Some things I have noticed throughout wretched ordeal are that my H rarely makes eye contact with me and when he does its with a very guarded yet angry look.  Affection and any meaningful communication are completely off the table, even though we still live together.

For the last 2 weeks I have had the sensation that the EA is truly over. Even when my H has ducked out for an hour or two which would normally get my defenses going, I look and see his cell phone is left home.

A few nights ago my H's biking partners asked me why he was blowing off their emails and texts - not responding.  I said I didn't know - but I was oddly relieved that its not just me he's avoiding!
 
Last week I asked my H to take my S18 on college visits since my S17 had three days "off" from school.  Getting my H involved in the college search (or anything else for that matter) has been very difficult - one of his triggers IMO, but I had to work, so my H obliged and they went off for two days.   
 
The morning that they left, I had to meet with our accountant so I could be clear on my H's business activity, as it is reflected on our taxes and comes into play with college financial aid qualification, and the business end hadn't been done yet.  Before doing so  I stopped by my H's office to pick up reports that he had to run for
the accountant.  Up until this year I have worked for my H doing all of the financials, so he has had to take this over in my forced absence.     Let me say... I hadn't been in that office in probably 2
months.  What a complete mess it was!  It was DIRTY and disorganized and the
reports were done wrong to boot.  My H is a clean freak so clearly this is not his desire! My H seemed very harried and somewhat defensive. I was sitting behind my old desk and caught him kinda looking at me like he missed the days I used to sit there - a bit remorseful...just a bit. I kept my cool, didn't say anything about the conditions, fixed the reports and went on my way.
 
Since my H has returned from the college trip he has taken a more active role in the
college look. He has been researching on his own and taking a sincere interest. I asked him to review the financials and it is amazing the things he just doesn't remember.  He is an extremely smart person, but his memory is really shot.
 
I see that he realizes this and I think it is scaring him a bit. It's really a bit scary how many things he doesn't remember.  I do wonder about mental illness...is this a phase or truly a mental illness just coming to light? If so - is it treatable?
 
So - ystdy when he left for work it seemed like he wanted to hug me but I kept
my distance, not noticeably so, I just busied myself a bit. Last night he came home and cooked dinner, then he went to bed before me - left the t.v. on in the bedroom for me to have some light when I went up - had my side of the bed
all made and fluffed up for me - had a candle lit in the bathroom for me (one that he would have actually had to go get and set up himself - wasn't in there).  So - that took some effort. 

He is looking me in the eye more.  He seems to have a softening of heart a bit.  I told him I was going to work out tonight and he asked me about what time I'll be going because we're expecting 2 feet of snow and rough driving conditions.

Two nights earlier I had a dream that I was driving very slowly down a road - as if I was just starting out to travel someplace.  I saw two large items on the side of the road.  When I approached one I saw it was my H's body as he looked when we got married.  The other item was my H now, deceased, as if he passed twice - once at 22, and once at 42.  Maybe this is the sign of rebirth? That is what I am telling myself. The dream felt sooo real.  I woke up and couldn't catch my breath and still can't get it out of my mind. 
 
For us to get "back" completely, I will absolutely insist on therapy, for him individually
as well as for us as a couple, because there is NO WAY in hell I will ever go
through this again - but right now I think I need to let him get some footing
back in the family a bit and get a bit stable before pursuing anything else.  He
seems to be trying and he seems to be confused as well. Or this may just be a touch and go.

Or maybe I am just imagining things?  I have all kinds of fears...one being that I won't be open to his feelings IF they do return.
 
I am keeping a polite but warm distance and just working on myself and kids right now. I have been hurt too much to get excited at this point.

Thank you for reading my disjointed post.  It is hard to squeeze it all in at work, but I wanted to get it out there because your feedback and thoughts are soooo important to me! 

Thanks for listening... -Pup
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Re: Low Energy MLC'er
#15: February 01, 2011, 12:00:11 PM
Pup,

That is a very interesting situation. I really liked the part about fluffing your side and lighting a candle in the bathroom. MLC seems to completely rob them of any ability to see beyond their own needs and desires. When they reach out beyond (even if only for a moment in time) it is very refreshing.

The best thing you can do is remain detached and watch for consistent patterns of caring behaviors. If he is really trying to reconnect, you will be able to tell over time.

You seem to be a good state of mind. Keep working on you!
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Re: Low Energy MLC'er
#16: February 01, 2011, 01:12:47 PM
I have all kinds of fears...one being that I won't be open to his feelings IF they do return.

I have also a low energy MLCer and some of what UP wrote happened to us. My h's friends told me that they haven't seen him in quite some time. He has also pulled back from them. And based on some updates on the alt for him, he switched gyms. I don't know if he's still going to the other gyms as he has many friends there.

Be safe out there! We are expecting a blizzard here and LOTS of snow

Keep up the good work ;)
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Re: Low Energy MLC'er
#17: February 01, 2011, 08:29:01 PM
So can an MLCer change from High energy to low energy?
I don't think my H fits this description though as he has ow.
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Re: Low Energy MLC'er
#18: February 02, 2011, 07:54:02 AM
Pup,
I completely agree with Still.   Keep the detachment going.  They are like little kids....they want more of what they have less of.

This actually hit me the other day.  A few weeks ago, my H made reference to his MLC (yes, he acknowledges it fully).  He wasn't looking to discuss, just mentioned it.  I was in an impatient mood and I said "I know, I know...the midlife crisis:  you don't want what you have and you want what you don't have....that sums it up".  He looked at me sort of suprised but didn't argue the point. 

At any rate, my point that is relevant to your story Pup, is just that detachment seems to be the only time they start to come around, however slowly.  I think this is a really tricky time.  You can't detach completely or they will look elsewhere for ego needs.  But you have to at least a bit because then the start to realize what they are losing.  I just think so much of the MLC is about taking for granted what you have.  Like a child does. 

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Re: Low Energy MLC'er
#19: February 02, 2011, 09:34:12 AM
I guess my H is a Low Energy MLCer - as there appears to be no alienator (except his Mother!!!).

Not sure how this will all play out.  Does Replay last longer - as there is no alienator to have relationship issues/fight with?

Does Replay end sooner - as their is no alienator to pump him up and help him avoid his issues?   (His parents seem to be filling this role, I guess??)

Time will tell.  I know that I couldn't live with my parents, at this point in my life.  (He's been at his folks for almost 6 months).

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