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Old pilot, if you read about John lennons affair whilst married to yoko Ono you can see mlc crazy! Yoko Ono was standing for her marriage and sent him off with the younger girl, can't remember her name. He calls them his lost weekend, he drank heavily and hung out with Phil Spector and Harry Nilsson!

I have read a couple of books and Cynthia Lennons book, there is speculation that Lennon was about to move back to the UK and settle back down, he was unhappy with yoko, but he was shot. It's tricky to work out what was happening but I know Julian Lennon was seriously cut out the picture after his fathers death which is tragic. It's all pretty script isn't it.

His Foo issues would have definitely predicted crises throughout his life.
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Breaking bad is all my h would talk about to anyone who would listen last year.

Now I know why ::)

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OP I'm going to have to disagree with you on Lennon. He was 29 when he married Yoko, the affair had started before. For me it has nothing to do with MLC, more to do with many happens when someone becomes famous, the person they were married with, especially if at an early age and while the partner is not famous, no longer fits the famous lifestyle.

Cynthia simply no longer fitted the way John wanted to live. Even if yes, their divorce only happened years after John had become famous. But John had been unfaithful many times before, he was no saint (nor he was while married to Yoko).

And I don't believe Yoko broke the Beatles nor that John did it. The Beatles were pretty much broke because they become too famous, people change, fame and money and drugs change people. Remember they had to stop play live because they could not hear themselves with all those girls shouting madly?  That was broke/killed the Beatles.

Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds means LSD. It is one of the songs of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band and also features in Yellow Submarine, a record and a film that are perfect acid trips. Also, Lucy was written mostly by Lennon, not McCartney.

Lennon was always unstable and moody and, for all I know, never a happy person. Nor a nice one.

Do you know that Lucy, the australopithecus afarensis found by the Leakeys, is called Lucy because when they found her bones Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds was playing in the radio?

Fictional character of the season going through a MLC, detective Martin Hart from the tv show True Detective. The man messes up big time and still does not get it nor wants to own up to it.
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I have to agree with Anjae on John, but Songanddance on Paul.  Heather Mills had a lot of allegations at the time of her divorce from Paul, and if any of them were true he was a little harsh to her (I don't know what to believe there, though - she was pretty over the top).  But that might show a monster side of him (Instead of Puppy Monster, maybe Walrus Monster?  ;D). 

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I don't think Paul had an MLC after Linda died, I think he just did what so many men do after having been happily married for many years, and that was rush into the next one right away without thinking it through.  I have a good friend who did that after his wife of 35 happy years died very suddenly; he even told his children  that he "just wanted to be married again".  Hid children are dumbfounded, no one knows if it will last, but it doesn't have the hallmarks of wanting to abandon, of blaming anyone or that side of it.   



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Patrick Stewart (Picard off Star Trek ) divorcing his wife of 35 years and marrying a woman within 2 years or so, half his age in a most bizarre ceremony with Ian Mckellan as the priest (ordained in some whacky cult). The wedding photos were taken in a ball park - yes you read it right.

SandD -  I agree about P. Stewart.  I didn't know his back story but I saw him interviewed on a show called The Captains where William Shatner interviews actors who played Star Trek Captains.  The following clip leads me to think MLC and gives me hope about post MlC-remorse (WS=W. Shatner & PS=P. Stuart):

WS: Are you ever lonely?
PS:  Never.  I've always been content with my own company. 
WS: What does it feel like to be divorced? 
You see PS's demeanor change--he becomes very quiet and there is pain and sadness in his eyes.
PS: I have two major regrets in my life and they are both to do with the failure, my failure, in my marriages. How I behaved, what I did--it can't be corrected.  And guilt I think has has gone, but regret remains and I have that very strongly.  And it has kind of handicapped me.  I've been married twice, divorced twice and I don't think I could every do it again.

P.S.  I think I heard that he just recently remarried.

I think Robert Redford also had an MLC. 

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Not sure if this one has been mentioned before but saw him on tv at friends house last night on Piers Morgan, only briefly as we were all chatting so I googled up on him.

Ian Botham, he stayed at home and denied it up to the last but had affair and I don't think he understands why to this day, a happy ending though.

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Old pilot, if you read about John lennons affair whilst married to yoko Ono you can see mlc crazy! Yoko Ono was standing for her marriage and sent him off with the younger girl, can't remember her name. He calls them his lost weekend, he drank heavily and hung out with Phil Spector and Harry Nilsson!

I have read a couple of books and Cynthia Lennons book, there is speculation that Lennon was about to move back to the UK and settle back down, he was unhappy with yoko, but he was shot. It's tricky to work out what was happening but I know Julian Lennon was seriously cut out the picture after his fathers death which is tragic. It's all pretty script isn't it.

His Foo issues would have definitely predicted crises throughout his life.

Her name was Mai Pang - and there is speculation that it was Yoko Ono who "brokered" the relationship between John and Mai.  Maybe she thought that, if he was going to go off with someone else, Yoko might as well choose the OW and insure that John would be taken care of?

Who the heck knows.

I had read that the Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds song was written after John saw a drawing that Julian had drawn?  I thought the whole LSD was a coincidence?  (Well, maybe not)   ::)

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Woody Allen leaving Mia Farrow and taking up with the child's nanny/teacher
Well, for one thing - Woody has always been a nut case...and many of his films show an older man chasing after a younger woman.  (His fantasy, I suppose?)

I don't know about the child's nanny/teacher?  When Woody and Mia broke up (they didn't live together, by the way) - Woody was having an affair with Mia's adopted daughter.  He married the daughter.  Can we say WEIRDO?

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Lennon was always unstable and moody and, for all I know, never a happy person. Nor a nice one.

Doesn't surprise me.  He was probably the most artistic and talented of the four of them.....and probably suffered deeply for his art.  I think many of the most profound books, poems, etc...were created by someone with issues.  I guess Happy Texts...don't really sell.

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Lucy in Sky - definitely about LSD as it is on album after they had all been with that Indian guru and experimented.
BBC documentary about the 4 of them and their manager Brian ??  some time ago and Lennon knew that if they mentioned LSD it would be censored so it was their cryptic way of writing this. A bit like Puff the Magic dragon from Peter, Paul and Mary??

Still think that McCartney had some form MLC after Linda's death as he rejected his children's comments about Heather Mills, Stella McCartney almost disowned him as his behaviour was off the wall and she hated Heather with a passion.  I appreciate the comment of post grief marriage - his UK interviews showed that he seemed a little off the wall. Remember BD is usually triggered after an event and he and Linda did shut themselves away in the last few weeks before her death.
I think he helped her to die and the guilt was just too much......
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Lucy in Sky - definitely about LSD as it is on album after they had all been with that Indian guru and experimented.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Lennon

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Julian Lennon was born in Liverpool. Initially, the fact that John Lennon was married and had a child was concealed from the public, in keeping with the conventional wisdom of the era that female teenage fans would not be as enamoured of married male pop stars. Lennon inspired one of his father's most famous songs, "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds", whose lyrics describe a picture the boy had drawn, a watercolour painting of his friend Lucy O'Donnell from nursery school[5] surrounded by stars.

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