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MLC Monster Re: The affair/OM/OW III
#40: July 04, 2011, 02:48:01 PM
i definitely reccomend the 48 hour rule. it gives you time to think and reflect. a good friend told me 6 months ago she admired how i did not kick off and give ow a hard time. i could have been nasty and done damage and told ow hubby what was going on but im so glad looking back now that i did not do it. i just think of all the kids i have with hubby and even ow kids. please sit back and reflect at least before you do anything. thinking of you and know how tough it is for us lbs. remember all us on here are in the same place as you and know how much youre hurting inside.   
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Re: The affair/OM/OW III
#41: July 04, 2011, 05:06:49 PM
Dear arp1
I hope you can feel the circle of friends around you right now getting bigger and stronger.
A big (((((((HUG)))))))) from me right now.  I'm working from home today.  Just dropped the kids off and felt an overwhelming sense of frustration and anger at H.  Thankfully, being at home meant I could scream and close my eyes and imagine beating him with my fists.  I just cannot believe how a human being can be so calmly cruel and manipulative, lying and taunting those that they once professed to love. 

It's important to get it out and you have ever right to be angry.  But don't let the enemy get hold of your anger.  Keep your dignity.  You don't have to take her back but you don't need to lower your standards.  Hold your head high and be a great example for your family.  Give it up to God and tell him you can't handle it.
There's no point sending that article to her, because, even on the off chance she did read it, it wouldn't sink into her brain any way so you'd be wasting your time and emotions.  She'll just believe what she wants to to justify her self.  Try writing her a letter that you won't send.  I've done that a few times to get stuff off my chest.  I hold on the the letter and after a few days I don't feel like sending it anyway.
Hope you get some peace.
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Re: The affair/OM/OW III
#42: July 06, 2011, 09:10:01 AM
I'm not sure where the place for stories like this is, so I'll put it here.  If a moderator thinks it should be elsewhere, please go ahead and move it!

This isn't a happy story, just one I found out about a couple of years ago.  It puts me in an interesting position.

This is about the mother of one of my S's friends.  She and her H (unmarried)  have 3 kids, all teenagers.  She was pretty nice; a bit harrassed, she works hard, but who doesn't these days? I used to be pretty impressed that her H would show up at so many school things, seem to speak intelligently about the kids, that kind of thing.

As you do, I started to become friendly with her, to listen to how her job was going, that kind of thing.  Learned that she and her H worked together.

Imagine my shock when I found out that she was OW.  She told me that "she wasn't proud of it, but she took him from his family with 3 children, because they just fell so much in love....."   From everything she said it was definitely an MLC affair. 

This was now a long time ago.  Turns out that he is still married to W1, and what's more, that he's not really working much, that she (OW) is the one earning all the money, she owns the house (she's underneath it all afraid that if he owned it his W might have some claim to it....), she runs it all.  She's exhausted, irritable, you name it.   

And with regards to having children, he wasn't even that thrilled about the idea; she said that she had to promise him that she wouldn't neglect him.....    Did she get pregnant to keep him?  May well have done....    well, she got him, but even she says that she realises that what they did 'wasn't exactly right'. 

He is a lot older than her; he has grandchildren that are the same age as his second family children.  The grandchildren don't get on with their new kids.....  I have no idea what his r with his children is like.   My guess is not very good. 

I don't know the reason why he never divorced his W; she (OW) told me that the W hadn't wanted to. I have no idea as to the reason, whether she was standing or had religious or other reasons.  No idea.  And he has 3 children with OW.....    I have to admit that even I would give up at that stage. 

He potters around the house; she tries to delegate kid stuff to him because she has to work so hard to earn the money; he does appear to do renovations and the like, but they have a lot of help -- a friend of hers, who acts as godfather to the kids, seems to be around all the time, helping with the house and the kids. 

This puts me in an interesting position.  My S's friend is a perfectly nice boy, none of this has anything to do with him.  So of course the friendship is fine.  But since I found this out I'll admit I have a really hard time stomaching being around her, and in particular her H.  I now look at him and feel something akin to disgust.  That's not charitable, but true.  At least I can say it here.  Now I see a fool.

She says she wouldn't do it again -- it's been rocky, they even split up for a while, but I guess she feels that this is better than being alone.    And yes, there are 3 children. 

As for the man?  well, I have no idea what he thinks and feels.  He seems to be getting OW to support him, doing what he wants.  OW says that they are in a good place now, but all I see is an overworked woman.   And he just chuckles at her.    I don't think he has any strength at all. 

I get the feeling that his supposedly being so good with the kids is just a front; she tries to delegate it to him but he is actually pretty useless. 

Life isn't a picnic for them, far from it.    And the kids are just caught up in it.  On the surface they have a family life, I now stay far out of it.  I have the boy over, and let my S go there, but I don't linger over coffee.....  sad, but true. 

The OW does feel guilt, don't know about him.  It seems their families accept it; I've seen her parents around, and his sister, at least.  But that may well be because of the kids. 

As for his W, well, I have no idea what her story is, how her life is.  I'll admit the thought that she is far, far better off without this man, though. 

It's a crap situation all around.  I don't know more, mainly because I don't want to -- I keep my distance.  Funny, a few years ago I might have been interested in a "soap opera" kind of way, now I just go "yuck!" and run....

I'm not putting this here to discourage anyone; the man in question really isn't capabale of being a decent, let alone good, partner.  I hope his W knows that, and is happy with her life. 
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Re: The affair/OM/OW III
#43: July 06, 2011, 09:42:57 AM
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  My H talked about missing out on things.  I said like what.  He said going to Harley functions ect.. 

This is part of the insanity of it. My H feels he didn't get to have the things other people had in their youth. Now I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't have ANY friends who were driving sports cars, making huge sums of money and wearing designer clothes through their 20s - not couples, not singles. In our 20s all of us were trying to build careers. The only people I knew going on flash holidays were either investment bankers (who worked 16 hour days every day except on their ONE week of holiday that they felt they could take  or they had very wealthy parents, so they had never earned the money themselves. Most of our friends were just like us (even if not married) and drove second hand cars, worked long hours, bought clothes at high street shops and tried to build careers. I don't know what sense of entitlement makes my H think he, in particular, deserved sports cars and designer clothes during those years...

But this, to my mind is part of the problem, my H spent his early life in a sort of fantastical illusion about life. I don't know if that is going to be remedied in this MLC, but I hope for his sake he gets a better grip on things.

T&L. That story is unfortunate, but you are right the wife is no doubt better off (hopefully in her own new fulfilling R with someone better - who knows maybe she met someone else herself which is why the H never returned) and the OW is clearly more than paying for her affair by having this less than wonderful relationship, which goes to show that being so desperate that you will cling to a relationship no matter how badly it turns out, is not a good place to be in either.
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Re: The affair/OM/OW III
#44: July 06, 2011, 10:12:07 AM
I agree with all of it.. LG, I know first hand that ow and my h FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT.. I saw a few textes the other day when I snoop... yes I did but I normally dont...Anyway... the words and names they call one another are horrible. They fight way more then I know of and I can tell. She wants him to divorce me and its been 2 yrs and she will never mess with another married man and the NAMES she calls me....HOLY CRAP.... I cant believe it and I never did anything to her...Why the men keep in the emotional blackmail I dont know... But your correct on I need a ride no one else can help me.. Friday she needed help cause her tire was flat..(I saw it in the text) he sent his brother to do it.. lol... and the fight was on... He also did not help her move into her apt.. he fought with her through text all night as he is rubbing my leg...lol... I also feel there is something more to this R with them. In the texts she was stating... The under covers are everywhere... then h said.. your a dum ass your gonna lose your job..... that sounded like she does something else on the side... Anyways, she is a hood rat as my h tells her and he affaired way down.. but I still do not understand WHY THE HELL they keep in the drama and live the simple peaceful life with us adn the kids>>>> Cause when I look at it... in 2 yrs he has not left, she gets maybe 2 nights a week for maybe 5 hours and the rest is texing is that a realtionship? NO... They dont really know one another except for the drinking, gifts she gets him and the sex.... Pisses me off but this is his journey...

Also, our neighbor now divorce... Left his first wife for ow who just divorce him... Guess what??? He started another affair on her and she kicked him to the curb,, I speak to her as she stayed in the house and said it was the biggest mistake because they always fought, or didnt talk much, and she was ALWAYS jelouse of other woman. Very insecure.. She said she will never do that again.
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Re: The affair/OM/OW III
#45: July 06, 2011, 06:44:28 PM

T&L, I have a "friend" in almost the same sitch.  This is weird and hard to explain, and remember I live in a SMALL town.  So, my S12 has a best friend down the street, A, who is also friends with N who ends up on his baseball team two years ago, just before my BD.  So I get to be friends with Mom and S12 and N get to be friends. I know she's divorced, but she lives in a great house and has the best relationship ever with her ex so I looked to her for advice after BD.  Come to find out from A's mom who knows them well that our S's are also friends with M who lives in the next hood--across a major street, different school district, but only six blocks away.  It turns out N's Mom and M's Mom share a spouse.  He is married to M's Mom, but "fell in love" with N's Mom who he lives with every other weekend when her kids are with their Dad.  He bought her house and keeps her, and W tolerates it because she does not believe in divorce.  Everyone in town knows but me, and their kids, supposedly, but really, they must know...  So I have a really hard time being friends with N's mom now, but she is also important to me professionally, so I have to, and so goes life in a small town...  Is that not weird, though?     
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Re: The affair/OM/OW III
#46: July 11, 2011, 04:46:57 PM

This is what I got from my attorney on Friday.  I get a message every Friday and I always feel most of them are anti-divorce--aimed at the leaving spouse.  In fact on my first visit, he told me that if I wanted to stay married, I needed to recommend one of three other divorce attorneys to my H because he said they have all seen our sitch so many times and it is obvious it is a disaster in the making.  Unfortunately my H had already hired the nasty woman who hated women, especially stay-at-home mom type women, so I was SOL...  But anyway, this was my Friday message: 

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FACT OF THE DAY:

Over 75% of people who marry partners from an affair eventually divorce. -

 

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Re: The affair/OM/OW III
#47: July 11, 2011, 05:12:39 PM
Oh, Lisa.... so your husband hired a woman who wants to prove she's more of a man than a man, huh? I hate women that aren't content being feminine... and I don't mean "girly".... I mean, FEMININE....women who hate other women...AND they hate men, too, LOL!! Isn't that essentially what your husband is dating? Your attorney sounds like a GEM....
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Re: The affair/OM/OW III
#48: July 11, 2011, 05:45:05 PM

Let me say here that some of my best friends are gay, and I mean this in no bad way, but my H hired the local lesbian family law attorney--I could input the derogatory epithet, but you get it.  She specializes in representing lesbian women who leave their spouses.  And she is hateful--if I could print some of the messages I've gotten from her, you would get it. 

But I am glad, because when all this started, I was not prepared to fight him in court, when he offered me $800 a month in child support (no spousal), I figured--I married for love, not money, so if that is all he was offering, then I would take it and figure out the rest.  Then I got a NASTY message from her and I went to my attorney and said--this is what I want, I will not negotiate or compromise, so we are going to court.  Lo and behold, he agreed--but I should have asked for more, the judge would likely have awarded me more, but alas, I am okay, and I will be okay.

But she hates women like me, and men, unless they are defending against women like me, they are the lesser evil...  But my H is going to marry a southern belle, she loves men, I think, loves being rescued, I think, or some such fairy tale kind of fantasy...  Whatever, I hope it works out for her!  But my attorney is a gem, I could give you details, but I love him and his entire firm.         
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Re: The affair/OM/OW III
#49: July 11, 2011, 05:58:40 PM
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I hope the woman your husband is marrying also loves divorce, because if she goes through with marrying your husband, it's VERY likely in her future.......just sayin'
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