[honour]

Now, some homework for the women reading this (and we know you're reading because you just can't stay away), give me a compelling reason why I should risk my new life, my sanity, my home, my independence, my finances and my family on another relationship.

Honour if that is how you feel then you shouldn't, and that is ok too as long as you are honest. So if you happen to be looking to get laid, you need to make it clear to the woman involved that all she is is a piece of a$$.

LOL! Your homework was to provide a reason why I should risk another relationship and you are hooking me up with a piece of ass already! You women have one track minds.

make it clear to the woman involved that all she is is a piece of a$$.

I'll be sure to put it in writing.

[bookwrmmom]

Yes my friend Honour you are welcome for the a$$ hookup  just make sure she signs that paper to make it all legal and binding (nothing more then a booty call-not an invitation to marriage).
Yes we women think about sex a LOT!

[OffRoad]

Rookie, man, you know why you won't see a woman climbing the roof? Because they are too busy climbing the walls if you commit that most heinous of crimes of not changing the toilet roll. LOL!

BBM: Must laugh! I never climbed the walls over the toilet roll. If anyone kept leaving it empty,I just made sure there was none when they went to take a $#!+. I only had to do it twice. 

And I only climbed the roof to repair the leaks....

[Braveheart]

I guess not having anybody to fight with is wearing you down though, or you wouldn't be so combative here in the Man Cave! hehehe.
Hugs Stayed

Now you're getting it. This is the Man Cave. We guys come down here to drink beer, tell dirty jokes, watch football, play rough and piss off the women folk. If we are not evoking histrionic reactions such as "I am a woman and I have not desire to DEFINE any bloody man." then we are failing in our duty to educate and inform the weaker sex. You need it for your own good.

...Don't see many women climbing roofs though???

Rookie, man, you know why you won't see a woman climbing the roof? Because they are too busy climbing the walls if you commit that most heinous of crimes of not changing the toilet roll. LOL!

And guys, please, I don't want to come down here to the Cave and see you chatting with the girls about folding the frikkin sheets and cleaning house for f@ck sake. WTF was going on there!?

I'm glad to see the conversation has turned to talking about aircraft. That's much better. Thank you guys.

Women cannot resist invading male spaces and eventually emasculating the place so bad it restricts male conversation...Ladies night is thursdays from 7-10pm, please these hallowed halls or I shall call the Sergeant at Arms to escort you out...

[elray]

I go on a single one day road trip and the man cave is in shambles!  Wtf happened?

Btw it was lovely weather for a polar bear plunge into the ocean with my boys--and yes I just flashed my man card. 

[MeNow]

Large artillery rounds. I'm in.

[Mad Hatter]

Women cannot resist invading male spaces and eventually emasculating the place so bad it restricts male conversation...Ladies night is thursdays from 7-10pm, please these hallowed halls or I shall call the Sergeant at Arms to escort you out...

I go back to what RE said in the beginning...

kikki,

This is the typical double standard that I am speaking of.     Women want men to talk and hash things out and evolve.

Then.   They stick their nose into the garage and want to control the dialog.

It is all about control.

As to why they do it, I have no idea. Only the women can answer that. But this is one of the truest things I have seen; women always inject into the male conversation whenever opportunity arrives. And more often than not, manipulates the conversation around the way they want it or make it about them. Seen this multiple times throughout the years; been on the patio with a few friends tossing down some beer and just BS'ing, when here comes one of the wives / gf's to either, a) push into the conversation, or b) drag her man away from the conversation for whatever reason she wants.

I'm not trying to push the females here away, but I do really want to know why they do this crap. I mean do you really crave the attention of your man so bad you have to involve yourself in everything he does? Are you all that self-centered that everything needs to revolve around you? Or is there some deeper thing that we just don't understand?

I have a good friend who hunts; he loves it and joined a hunting club with a bunch of other male friends. It was his one passion and his hobby / thing to do. Not exactly sure how it all evolved, but she (his wife) now comes with him on hunts more often than not. He thought in the beginning she would get bored with it but instead she thrived on it and now it pisses him off. The hunting club is pretty pissed too, but they keep it to themselves for now. He is going to have a "talk" with her when next season rolls around.

[Braveheart]

Simple really...They don't want us comparing notes and want to know what we've figured out . In the past women to most men seemed a great mystery and men really had no way of comparing their experiences to any great degree. Interactions with other men tended to be work related, much of their free time already spoken for due to family obligations. About the only time men had any amount of time with other men in modern times was at the hunting camp or fishing and then only with small groups.

Since the internet came about Men have been able to discuss women openly and compare notes with millions of others about the women they had interacted with. Behavoir that before might be considered unique to their own wife/girlfriends has been examined and found to almost follow a general "How To Handle Men" manual. Once you've read their manual there is no real great mystery to them anymore.

[elray]

In every historical culture you can point to, there were places for men to congregate.  From the bath houses of rome, to the barber shop of our parents generation, there were places for men to find those connections and get that emotional, male grounding we all need. 

Obviously, the patriarchal structure had abuses associated with it, and was targeted by feminism for a reason.  But along with it came a relatively new idea that a man's closest and only confidant should be his wife.  I bought into this, and it seriously stunted my development as a man.  I think my wife bought into it too, and worked to maintain boundaries around us, which I willingly accepted. 

The answer is simple -- all men need some Male-Only space.  This man cave thread is a weak virtual representation of that, but for some it may be the closest they get in real life.  If that sounds like you, get out and get to work.  You will love the results you see in yourself.

[Dji76]

I go on a single one day road trip and the man cave is in shambles!  Wtf happened?

spoken like a true "fixer" Elray!! Haha had to get back at u for the degenerate comment u made to me a while back.