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#40: December 20, 2011, 09:12:30 AM
I too wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

If it wasn't for the friends that I have made on this site, I honestly don't know where I would be right now. On my darkest day, I found this site. Don't remember how or why. There have been many, many times I have been standing on the edge of the cliff thinking that it was my time to jump, the people here either through their own posting or direct contact with me prevented me from jumping. For that I will always be grateful.

I have listened, read and re-read. It has made my journey easier. I had lost hope, and without hope there didn't seem to be much reason to continue. I am in amazement everyday about the strength that we as humans carry. It is that strength that give others hope. I don't know if words can EVER be enough for those of you that have held my hand and lifted the burden from me at times. Made my load alittle easier to carry.

HB, I am not a very religous person, spiritual yes. I do believe in God and your words have brought me closer to him. I wish only the best for you in regards to your health and happiness. I like the others on here appreciate all the you have to say because I know that the words come from you heart and experience.

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Re: I want to wish everyone a VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS....
#41: December 20, 2011, 11:22:09 AM
Merry Christmas to all!!!

This Holiday season I feel blessed. 

There are many blessings... This forum .. The beautiful people here. My family. My daughter. & yes My MLC Husband ... I am grateful for all of these things.

May 2012 Bring us all positive changes ;D
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Re: I want to wish everyone a VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS....
#42: December 20, 2011, 11:40:33 AM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you, HB and to EVERYONE on this forum.  I am entering the third year of MLC, and as HB suggested, I am looking at what I HAVE versus what I don't have:

I am still married, am separated, but no legal action has taken place at all to date

I am stronger and feeling more comfortable in my skin again.  I still feel lonely and sad (especially at this time of the year), but I have many great friends, and the support of my wonderful friends on this forum

My daughter and I are doing well, and she is reconnecting with her father, my H.  It is hard to see that sometimes (reminds me of when he was living here at our home and was kind to everyone but me), but I am grateful that my daughter feels like she has her father back.  It was a huge loss, and my H seems to really be making an effort with her. 

H has not been in major monster for a while.  He is still VERY distant, and agitated when I see him.  Doesn't look me in the eye, yet wants to do favors, offers to help with household things, etc.

H does not bring up divorce and I don't either.  I feel a slight shift in him, but I am also not having EXPECATIONS,
I have a stronger relationship with God, and He guides me and directs me and gives me solace and support.

A year ago at this time, H was in our home, it was awful.  Major monster (he 'cancelled" Christmas) and I was on pins and needles.  Always on alert, anxious, stressed and just a mess.  Today, I am calmer, I have become accustomed to living alone (my D lives with me part time) and I even enjoy it.  I relish the peace and quiet and no more walking on eggshells. So, I feel I have made progress.  Has my H made progress?  I don't know.  I think he may, but I honestly don't know.

We won't be spending any time together at Christmas or New Year.  I invited H to join D and I and her boyfriend for Christmas Eve, and he said "no, that would be awkward".  I just replied, it would be awkward for you.  He just agreed.  I don't initiate contact with H unless it is necessary and only for logistical issues. 

I don't know what the New Year will bring.  I will be 50 this coming year, and I feel I am looking for the next phase of my life to have as much joy as possible.  I hope I remain with my H and he comes through his journey and reconnects to me.  I have to remember that the spouse is that last one an MLCer connects with.  Maybe that will happen.  If not, I am stronger, calmer and more prepared for any possibility.  I still "feel" that our story is not over.  I still believe that if my H truly and completely wanted a divorce, we would have been divorced by now.  The latest comment he made with regard to divorce was "I have to save money, then we will work on the mediation workbook".  Well, I just let that comment lay there.  I didn't respond.  H's lease on his place is up in July.  It will be interesting to see what happens. 

I was feeling so sad earlier and was going to type my "tale of woe" on my thread.  Instead, I read HB's thread and everyone's comments, and I decided to not have that pity party, but to count my blessings.  As usual, HB finds a way to reach my heart and help me in ways I can never really explain.

I am so grateful for HB, OP, Ready, Still, Warrior and so many others (sorry if I don't type all the names).  I would not be in the place I am without the support, guidance and kindness I received here.  It is and was a lifesaver for me. 

Merry Christmas and many thanks and blessings to everyone!

With love,
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Re: I want to wish everyone a VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS....
#43: December 20, 2011, 11:51:15 AM
HB- that was so well put...you are amazing with words.
Your advice and guidance through all of this is uplifting and certainly gives me hope that one day I will have my H back
and a better one at that. I keep my hope through all the ups and downs partly because of all the support here.
You truly are a wonderful lady and keep me wanting to read more of your experience and wisdom especially in the later stages of this crisis.
Merry Christmas to you and everyone and to all of us 2012 will be an even better year!!
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Re: I want to wish everyone a VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS....
#44: December 20, 2011, 12:30:47 PM
Lurker  :) Don't you just love that word?  I too was a lurker for a long time.

Wishing everybody as Merry a Festive Season, as we possibly can.  Will be thinking of you all.
I too am grateful for so many things, and one of them is this wonderful website (thank you RCR), and all of you wonderful people who generously share your time, wisdom and friendship on this forum.

much love to you all x
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Re: I want to wish everyone a VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS....
#45: December 20, 2011, 12:45:38 PM
It has always been amazing to me that so many people from all across the world can band together AS IF they are all in one place to give love, hugs, comfort and deep support to each other.

I can remember back last April or May of 2010, when RCR approached me, asking me to join this board in its infancy and to help get it off the ground.

I wasn't sure what I could do to help make that happen, but the Lord encouraged me to just go with it.   He showed me a successful start up; and a successful continuance; as He said it would gain as time went on.  And I've seen that come to pass over time; thanks be unto the Lord who has supported me throughout, as He has assisted me in the helping of others.

Without Him as the guiding influence; we would not be where we are, today.

I don't believe in "coincidences"; I firmly believe in His Guiding Hand that I have always stayed open to.  I nearly left the internet back in February of 2010, after having gotten an answer I needed; my husband had broken his ankle; and I had so much on my plate at that time.

But He held me firmly in a time of "waiting" for something I wasn't sure of; and though I didn't understand  what He was doing; I simply obeyed Him...following  His lead at all times.

It was HE who brought me here initially, and it's still HE who gently encourages me to stay. :)

I've tried to "retire" three different times, once I saw the board wasn't going to fall apart and breakdown; and every time I've been brought back by the Lord who knows MORE than I do. 

I won't go through the standard spiel of me not being "special"...etc.....I've been instructed to stop arguing with people's perceptions of me; and to just simply ACCEPT their perceptions...my own perceptions of myself, and that of others will NEVER MATCH...so I will just say a simple and very humble thank you for your thoughts, and let the rest go. :)

On the other hand, I found a thread that was started in a private area of the board not long after I left the first time..that opened my eyes in ways I never imagined.

OP was right; I had carried so much of the burden for so long, that when I left that first time, more moderators had to be put in place to do what I had done.  I don't doubt these would have been put in place at a later time; but I remembered posting nearly continuously for a LONG period of time; mentoring where needed, comforting where needed, supporting; helping people to grow.

I joked about not being able to keep up; and I would often ask the Lord; as I still do now, WHERE do I need to go today?

For what it's worth, just before I left that first time, I did see an emotional "shift" in the board at one point way earlier this year, where it seemed various people were "ganging" up on others.

Of course you could find me deep within the fray; because I will NOT tolerate someone being abused in ANY way.  I don't do it, and I will NOT stand for it..and for what it's ALSO worth, those that abuse others, are not much more than children themselves, showing their deep immaturity, so much growing up remains to be done within that person/persons who engage in such behavior.

I saw behavior like this bring down many a board over time; as a house divided cannot stand.  Each person is entitled to their opinion, but not if it's clearly abusive to another.

 This wasn't why I left, but when the board started crashing on a regular basis; it came nearly on the heels of the discordant behavior I'd been seeing BEFORE I left that first time back in May of this year.  There was the "sign" that people needed to heed.

Just as when the Children of Israel forgot WHO was in charge; the Lord stepped in and made sure it was understood that He was the one who gets the credit for the success of this board; and if He's forgotten, He will allow circumstances to bring one down.

I understood it very well; blame servers or whatever; but I KNOW how God works; I've seen it before many times in various situations I've faced myself.

Now that things have settled once again; the board becomes consistent and stable..and it should REMAIN that way as long as people remain respectful of each other.

Bear with me, I'm reflecting on some things, here.

We come here to save our marriages; but ultimately, we LEARN to save ourselves first; owing to the "life preserver" analogy; the one where you get yourself to safety first, THEN toss the life preserver toward your MLC spouse in the hopes they will grab onto it; whether now, or later; and even the "Oxygen Mask" analogy that OP so often uses that came from his experience as an airplane pilot in past years.
This one explains that when the plane gets in trouble, you put the oxygen mask on YOUR face first before you begin helping your MLC spouse.

In each scenario; you learn to help yourself FIRST before deciding what you'll do next. :)

Each person is at a different stage of growth; some are ahead, some are behind; some are in the middle; some are near the end,  some are "out" of this; but each person has a clear contribution that can be made to others.

It reminds me of a time when I walked into a thread, and saw a post that said they wanted to write what was on their minds, but were afraid of being "gotten onto", LOL....I'll never forget the answer I gave to that one; making it clear no one was a "child" and any opinion could be posted; just don't get mad if it's gently corrected or even disagreed with.  :)

And when I think about how people often view me, it's downright scary...I'm considered a "giant" in this world of MLC; I may as well admit it...this was told to me over two years ago on the board I started out on many years ago.

But this "giant" will NOT step on other's feelings, nor will she allow herself to be abused without standing up for herself.

Never allow people to make you feel you don't have a right to your own feelings.  I know the board doesn't allow for true expression; and I also understand that people don't read threads the same way I do.   

I got a PM for a poster this morning that took courage to write; but they expressed what they thought very clearly; and I respect that in people.  If you think I'm wrong, don't hesitate to challenge me; I will answer you with my point of view; but understand I'm as human as you are; and I'm not beyond being challenged.

I'm NOT beyond anyone's "reach" and "grasp"....post your questions out here; and I will answer as best as I know how with the help of the Lord.

Just because I'm "out" of this doesn't mean I am infallible; no one has reached THAT point yet; and I'm not perfect, never will be. :)

With all that said, I love each and every one of you; and even if I don't post directly to each of you personally; the posts I write are generalized postings intended to help each person with whatever aspect they need to learn.

The Lord will often send me off on various subjects as He guides my writings..but since HE has the bigger picture and I don't; I defer to HIS knowledge, wisdom, and expertise on various aspects of not only the crisis, but within life itself. :)

Love each other, support each other; and NEVER forget that we are all in this together; no one is any "better" than another.  We ALL have the tools to help, hold up, and advise in our own unique ways. :)

But, conversely, we ALSO have the tools to destroy one another; and bearing that in mind, we must needs to watch ourselves at all times.  Be compassionate with those who are early in this; they really don't understand what's happening; but later, with patient and gentle guidance; they will gain what's necessary to walk their journeys to wholeness and healing.

Better yet, respect the right of others to follow the beat of their own drum; as Intuition will NOT always show a clear, well defined path for each person.   

I teach the development of Intuition as a precursor to the other gifts that will also come out of this trial as it unfolds.   I benefited from this same development when it was me so long ago.

In time, I expanded out in areas that I never expected, but took each one with thankfulness; as God knew what was going to be "right" for me; and He knew what I could use; and He STILL knows, even as He continues to expand me in areas and aspects. :)

Time will strengthen this necessary gift; and you'll become just like me if not stronger than me in these types of areas.  God works with people from a truly INDIVIDUAL level...and I post differently depending on what He gives me to say to each person I'm working with.

Learn to listen to your gut feelings; Intuition; it won't steer you wrong; and it will keep you on the path that was designed for YOU and no one else.

In closing; you can and will reach the place I'm in; don't think you can't...as can't never could; as the old saying goes.

It's a long, hard road, but once walked in full; it is SO rewarding; believe me, I've been there. :)

Love to you all,
HB


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Re: I want to wish everyone a VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS....
#46: December 20, 2011, 04:07:00 PM
Happy Holidays Everyone!

Hope each and everyone one of you find peace in your hearts and Joy in your spirit this Christmas!

Be Blessed and have a Happy New year!

Many ((((hugs))))

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Re: I want to wish everyone a VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS....
#47: December 20, 2011, 07:42:33 PM
Much love and blessings to all my friends here on the board!  Blessed Yuletide, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, and Happy Holidays all around!  :)

May you each find the following this holiday season:

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Re: I want to wish everyone a VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS....
#48: December 21, 2011, 03:16:09 AM
Like others, I'm not sure how I came to find this board in the first place but I am very glad I did as it has been a real lifeline over the past nine months since I did.  I am very grateful for everyone's caring thoughts and advice.

A Very Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy New Year to everyone.

Lots of love

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Re: I want to wish everyone a VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS....
#49: December 21, 2011, 05:52:22 AM
I also want to wish all here a Merry Christmas and post some seasonal trivia for you too!

There is one Christmas Carol that has always baffled us. What in the world do leaping lords, French hens, swimming swans, and especially the partridge who won't come out of the pear tree have to do w/ Christmas? Here is an unverified version that may explain:

From 1558 until 1829, Roman Catholics in England were not permitted to practice their faith openly. Someone during that era wrote this carol as a catechism song for young Catholics. It has two levels of meaning: the surface meaning plus a hidden meaning known only to members of their church. Each element in the carol has a code word for a religious reality which the children could remember.

-The partridge in a pear tree was Jesus Christ.
-Two turtle doves were the Old and New Testaments.
-Three French hens stood for faith, hope and love.
-The four calling birds were the four gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John.
-The five golden rings recalled the Torah or Law, the first five books of the Old Testament.
-The six geese a-laying stood for the six days of creation.
-Seven swans a-swimming represented the sevenfold gifts of the Holy Spirit--Prophesy, Serving, Teaching, Exhortation, Contribution, Leadership, and Mercy.
-The eight maids a-milking were the eight beatitudes.
-Nine ladies dancing were the nine fruits of the Holy Spirit--Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, and Self Control.
-The ten lords a-leaping were the ten commandments.
-The eleven pipers piping stood for the eleven faithful disciples.
-The twelve drummers drumming symbolized the twelve points of belief in the Apostles' Creed.
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