[karmirtsaghik]

Earlier on before BD, but definetely in the crisis:
Sleep problems, which he attributed to 80 +hours /week work schedule, he looked like a living ghost.
Approx. 40 pound weight loss, loss of appetite, gi issues, constant unrest, and aggressive anger. Memory and concentration problems.  Chain smoking and experimenting with/using some exotic herbs/drugs.
After BD: 
When OW was around very distorted facial exprssion, sometimes reminiscent  of a sick and angry cat. The facial expression calmed down considerably after the breakup with OW, but anger persists, albeit not as intense as it used to be.
Sleep patters, from what I can tell improved. However gi issues are ongowing, as well as extreme irritability, and fatiigue. He used to be an outdoorsy kind, mountaineer, now can hardly walk 2 miles. Constantly complains of being tired.

[Velika]

What does the odor smell like and when does it appear and disappear?

[Thunder]

Velika, that is one very strange thing I noticed, the body odor.

I know my H has always showered and wore clean clothes but there was a definite odd smell on him.  Not a good smell like he had before.  I used to love to wear something he had worn because it smelled like him.  Now his clothes smell stale.  Even after he washes them.
Very odd.  The only thing I can come up with is hormonal changes.

[Nas]

I noticed this too and it's a smell I was familiar with but couldn't figure out why.
Then I realized it - I have 3 brothers and I associate that particular smell with growing up with 3 teenage brothers!
I wonder if it's a hormone thing.

I swear I also read something about this somewhere, I think in one of Heart's Blessings writings.

[Thunder]

Yeah, like a faint boys locker room smell.  Just odd.
I know he can't help it but sure hope it goes away.

If you ever find that article, let me know.

[UrsaMajor]

The BO thing is not restricted to male MLC'ers....

Mine got to the point where it made my eyes water, a very rancid stale stress sweat odor, although she was very particular about washing herself and her clothes every day... . Combined with her perfume (which I used to love) it was a match made in Hades...

[Thunder]

So you noticed it too, huh UM?

It's like they smell different.
I think it has to be the alien who came down and took over their body.

[MrsCoco]

Before BD
Weight Loss
high sexual drive but Delayed Ejaculation (DE) or None (NE)
restlessness
irritable
hostile
memory loss
insomnia
High energy
High Blood Pressure

Right after BD
Weight fluctuation -He is always trying out new diets
high sexual drive but DE and/or NE (as he was cake eating in the beginning)
irritable
angry
sad
lots of crying
confusion on decisions
memory loss
High Blood Pressure - Controlled by medication
thining hair
High energy

18 months later
High energy
Weight Gain
Graying hair
Double chin getting worse
Gout on his big toe
recently had a root canal
arthritis
shark eyes
No emotion around me
Little to no emotion around children
unsure on DE or NE -But I've been told he watches a lot of porn (I guess OW21 is not enough)

[Anjae]

Velika, Ok for now. I think we have some thread about the matter, but, currently, the search icons are not visible (the board is still not 100% well) and that makes if harder to search for it. Currently I am also too tired to go look page by page in the Archives. If I find it, I will merge it with said thread.

I am not certain if other than looking tired, old, with dead eyes and for several bloated (mostly from drinking) the physical signs are similar.

Each MLCers seems to develop his/her own set of physical signs that go beyond the common themes. For many, things they used to suffer from when anxious/stressed seem to magnifie.

Mr J looked fine until mid 2009, minus the energy level that have go up by 1000. Then, he become too thin. Just skin and bone. Early 2010 he had gained a lot of weight and was blooted. Later he had hunched shoulders.

He seems to go back and forward in physical aspect changes, but mostly, towards the blooted. And I could not recognise him in court in 2014 Fall. My lawyer had to point him to me. He did not looked the same man. What he does not seem to have lost so far was the high energy.

[Thunder]

One thing to keep in mind is we do age....regardless of our circumstances.

I look at President Obama.  He was relatively young when he came into office and almost 8 years later he has grayed.
But he probably would have any way.

My H was 46 when he when into his crisis.  Yes, he has aged but that is quite normal after 5 1/2 years and being almost 53 years old.
I too have aged.  We all do.

I don't think we can necessarily blame