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Discussion Re: Demonic Possession and MLC
#140: March 10, 2017, 07:41:19 AM
Changing4Ever. My Mlcer`s ever changing personality is what I find most hard to handle, especially when he`s been spewing (monster) or been particularly sarcastic (teenager) one minute and then behaves like he was pre MLC the next.
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Re: Demonic Possession and MLC
#141: March 10, 2017, 08:22:41 AM
Changing4Ever. My Mlcer`s ever changing personality is what I find most hard to handle, especially when he`s been spewing (monster) or been particularly sarcastic (teenager) one minute and then behaves like he was pre MLC the next.

How long does the old personality last, and does the old one keep you in limbo?  I rarely saw the old personality. There were a few cases where I heard her voice, saw the look in her eyes, but arrows sit sustained. One morning W called me an old pet name she had done and crawled over to me to snuggle, things changed after she got up and she said it was an old habit. I saw someone close to the old personality more, but I frequently saw dazed and confused, rebellious teenager, monster, and narcissistic spoiled brat. I swear it feels like multiple personalities, but they are not named, so that doesn't match up with my understanding of the disorder.
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Re: Demonic Possession and MLC
#142: March 10, 2017, 08:48:04 AM
I think that's from cycling, LEC.

Some do it day to day, some minute by minute.  So their personality seems to change with each cycle.
I believe occasionally they cycle into their old personality.

That probably scares the bazeebers out of them.  OMG, I just snuggled with him!!!  What was I thinking?!!
 :o  Back to mean me.
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Re: Demonic Possession and MLC
#143: March 10, 2017, 10:10:00 AM
Velika,

It's not a matter of disagreeing or agreeing w/ the devil possession or not, that is just more of a religious topic that I was never taught before in your way. Thank you for explaining what you meant. You started the thread,that is why I asked for your meaning so I can get it more.

I can definitely relate more to different personalities! I was just talking about this today.

Sometimes nice, sometimes mean, just always changing. It's something very difficult to deal with.

In the day is more tolerable than evening/night. I asked someone about that and was told that someone w/ depression and anxiety it's worse at night because they only have themselves and their issues because most people are in bed asleep.

In the day there are more distractions to keep them occupied so they don't think of it as much.

Now, the cycling/ mood or personality changes is another thing that's a problem. You never know what personality is going to come out.

To me is more like schizophrenia. Like that movie Sybol.   

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Re: Demonic Possession and MLC
#144: March 10, 2017, 11:50:48 AM
I think demonic possession is generally thought of as being like the Hollywood films, but the priests I talked to about it feel it is more subtle and more like a person being influenced by a dark energy than what was portrayed in the Movies. My W, also someone who considers herself a scientific thinker, recalled an encounter with a spirit where her body became warm and pressure prevented her from moving. Keep in mind she is a physician so supernatural isn't her default. My question is could it be possible that she was infected, for lack of a better word, by spirit or dark energy and then when she was physically and spiritually weak the force/entity took control of her?

I talked to several priests, one a very well educated professor and scientist, and I was told that it is difficult to tell as the personality change could be due to a number of factors, but the immoral behavior, rejection of religion, and embracing new secular values was disturbing. W also became a big believer in astrology which is not condoned in the Catholic Church.  I don't think a Hollywood like demon is the issue, but is a evil influence a factor. Interestingly enough the kids now call her the demon sometimes. If the eyes mirror the soul there is evil in her, but I'm not certain about the what and why.
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Re: Demonic Possession and MLC
#145: March 10, 2017, 12:06:33 PM
Since MLC was never classified in medical terms, I suppose the LBS is only able to answer to the best of their ability from knowledge they already know.

Personally, I don't see any darkness or evil in my H. Then again he hides so much of his feelings. He actually had to SAY to me he was angry recently. He wears many masks.

He is not one that monsters much at all. When he's hurting according what I read it's his male depression and projection that is the reason he picks on me.

So I'm probably not the right one to help you because I don't like to speak on what I don't know.

I might suggest talking to someone trained in MLC or a therapist who could help  you more. I see it more as a medical/mental health problem than a spiritual one .
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Re: Demonic Possession and MLC
#146: March 10, 2017, 12:19:23 PM
Now well this subject is quiet a topic ermmm where do i start ...I know this might sound crazy to alot of you here but .....
   Before ex went into mlc or whatever he s in he got into this strange religion which spoke mainly about demons ,the end times ,the Illuminati etc etc. I was in actual fact terrified .....I was alway a highly sensitive person and i don t mean a sensitive(one that reads fortunes etc etc). ermm so this is a bit hard for me to write down it s the first time i m saying this here .... during this period of time i started to see certain things outside our door  i told ex and he days went on and i was at peace (today i believe these were all projections ) until one day I woke up 3am and saw a huge figure on my d s bed (we all slept in the same room and d was not home on this day) this figure was all in black but i could only see his eyes and my house keys dangling in his hands ...his message was "see how i still came in?" Again i told ex and he too was terrified . nowadays ex has the same look in his eyes as this figure has !
  Ex left a year later and 9 months later he went to live in another country .....December 2015 i again see this figure and this time the message was "i m still watching you "(same eyes) ....ex h followed me on fb a day later !!!!!!
  I m sorry I know most of you might think it s crazy and to be honest i too thought i was loosing my mind .....so don t know if it was me feeling that something was up or a projection of all the horrifying things ex made me watch when he got into this so called religion . Please try not to judge
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Re: Demonic Possession and MLC
#147: March 10, 2017, 12:25:29 PM
Thank you maomina...there is no way to know for sure what this meant, but no you are not crazy.

My one caution as I have been told is to not let the evil one take up too much of our attention or focus.
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Re: Demonic Possession and MLC
#148: March 10, 2017, 12:28:07 PM
LEC,

That's interesting. My W dabbled heavily in astrology and soulmate forums. Initially, did not display Monster after BD. She was herself and we still functioned as man and wife until she ran away. It was when she came home, month 4 post BD, that I noticed the possession. It was a complete transformation.

She introduced OM to her life during those 1st 2 months and I believe the entity took over her. She spent that entire 1st month back(Sept 2015) in her bedroom and we never saw each other. She emerged from it in Oct and exploded. Monster, police, restraining order, removal from house all within days.

I saw the darkness through the 1st 15 months and then I left. I have not seen it since we started talking, now 21 months from BD, but I know that her crisis is not over. So time will tell if it re emerges. She is holding strong with her Faith but it is a battle. We shall see.
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Re: Demonic Possession and MLC
#149: March 10, 2017, 12:30:16 PM
Elegance, I think we all see it more as a medical/mental health problem.  I'm just looking at it from a spiritual perspective as an alternative. My W is on meds for depression, mood disorder, and she has injection hormones/pain killers hidden from me that may have been abused. I also know her family has a history of mental illness and sexual abuse. Her father lost his job as a teacher in the early 80's for inappropriate relationship with a middle school student. Sexual abuse and the pain medication both can lead to personality change and both make sense given the evidence. I just don't dismiss the possibility of a spiritual element being at play as some evidence also backs that claim.

Unlike you I see evil, dark soulless eyes, nasty comments, lack of feelings and misunderstanding love, being uncomfortable in church, and abandoning values. I never felt my W was capable of cheating much less breaking up two families. Again, not saying mlc is demonic, just making an alternative argument.
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