[bluerose]

Just wondering if any of you believe that male menopause  and the low testosterone might play a part in all this?

[Thunder]

Absolutely, bluerose!

I believe that is exactly what my H went through.

[living with Hope]

I do.
my spouse was told his testosterone was the lowest our Dr. had ever seen this was just around the time of
BD. 
She prescribed him pills. 

Right when he moved out, he told me those pills made him feel like a young man again. (of course this was screamed at me while he was driving in a car with those horrible, mean dark black eyes flashing.)

[Reallytrying]

I wouldn't doubt that there is some role in all this for hormones. If they were used to feeling virile & strong. Having low T would be a huge blow and I've they wouldn't fully be able to explain so they compensate.

[bluerose]

I think there is something to it myself. I believe that this is something medical. There has to be something out there that can soften the blow with this craziness,but if they dont think that there is a problem how are you going to get them to go to the docter and check it out? AHHHHHHHH!

[Thunder]

You just hit the nail on the head!

They don't think there is anything wrong with them so why would they need a doctor?     You can't force them.

I believe maybe some of them could be helped with T meds but we'll never know.  Sad really.

[OldPilot]

FTR - I believe in this too, as a 62 year old man I can tell you that testosterone drops as age increases.

I have read Jed Diamonds books on Male Menopause and they related to me,
even though I never went through an MLC.

Much like some of the older ladies here who have gone through
menopause and not had a MLC.

It is one of the ingredients into MLC but it is not the only cause.
Or else everyone would have MLC because menopause male and female is
part of life.

if they dont think that there is a problem how are you going to get them to go to the docter and check it out? AHHHHHHHH!

NOPE you can not FIX this one!

No more than I could tell you that you are not acting right because of your hormones!

[in it]

The ex had a somewhat standing appt with his Dr due to diabetes. I asked him to ask the Dr if his testoterone could be tested  at the same time.
The Dr did test him.I went with him, but did not go in.When he got to the car I asked him what the Dr had said.

(I already had been online and with the research I did I was looking for the Dr to tell him a number.)

The ex's response was the dr said the test was between low amd normal.
I said to him "What was the number?"
He said the Dr didn't give him one.
So nothing was done.

And you are correct they will rarely look at themselves because they don't think anything is wrong with them.

[Thunder]

In it, good for you having the doctor do that.  Sorry you got nothing from it.
I think now days you can get that kind of information if it's a spouse.

I could just go on MyChart and read it for myself.  Would only need his password.   
All test results are on there.

[in it]

I talked him into it when I went back so I was an ex.There was no way for me to find out or persue it any further
I won't ever deal with another man who would not have himself checked out then not follow through and try to do something about it.
I'm not sure how they form the mindset that it always has to be us with the problem.