[calamity]

I see Mr Depp has humiliated himself again by saying something really inappropriate at Glastonbury.  I'm not repeating what he said--it will bring HS down on HS [that's homeland security].

Honestly, Johnny Depp used to be an intelligent man if a little self-conscious.  It's a rock concert so, things are said...but really this was just stupid.

[Songanddance]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/22/kate-beckinsale-relationship-man-half-age/


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4622284/Madonna-58-dating-model-Kevin-Sampaio-31.html

2 women dating men half or less their ages....

Calamity - I never thought of Johnny Depp as intelligent. Couldn't understand a word he said as Jack Black and have never understood why he is revered so much.

[calamity]

Maybe he wasn't.  He used to hang out with the intellectual celebrities like Hunter S. Thompson, Harry Dean Stanton and others--okay maybe none of those were intellectual but they certainly aspired to be.  Depp was intelligent in interviews, a thoughtful person.

Later, just before or just after he left his wife I read a long, painful interview with him and he did not make sense--'the meaning of life' interview I think.  Mlc.

[Songanddance]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-40632435

Interesting and bizarre article but what's the betting she was in MLC - affaired down and ended up paying all his and his family's bills etc....

Have a read.

[Velika]

I'm not sure if this celebrity has made it onto HS, but I recently stumbled upon the Dean and Tori show and realized this guy has MLC. Appearance, behavior, patterns, expression, weight gain, interests.

I watched some clips of this show and felt like it is a gift to LBS. Seeing someone else's story play out this way helped me gain perspective. It is obvious (in my mind) that this guy's problems are not psychological or marital. I think the show also depicts what is going on with the OW and the dynamic of this disfunctional relationship while showing that a woman drawn to this (i.e. the OW) really is living a fantasy and in her own psychodrama that is tragic for her as well.

If you have not seen this before, here is a clip where the OW meets the LBS after about a decade post bomb drop and now that she knows the MLCer has cheated on her as well. Who is coming out on top here?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aWIKLsZKZPs

[handpuppets]

I'm not sure if this celebrity has made it onto HS, but I recently stumbled upon the Dean and Tori show and realized this guy has MLC. Appearance, behavior, patterns, expression, weight gain, interests.

I watched some clips of this show and felt like it is a gift to LBS. Seeing someone else's story play out this way helped me gain perspective. It is obvious (in my mind) that this guy's problems are not psychological or marital. I think the show also depicts what is going on with the OW and the dynamic of this disfunctional relationship while showing that a woman drawn to this (i.e. the OW) really is living a fantasy and in her own psychodrama that is tragic for her as well.

If you have not seen this before, here is a clip where the OW meets the LBS after about a decade post bomb drop and now that she knows the MLCer has cheated on her as well. Who is coming out on top here?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aWIKLsZKZPs

Velika, I followed the link and agree with you. Look at this clip after Tori returns home from her meeting with LBS (he monsters away; it's all about him): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyWFLQA5AaU

[Velika]

I'm not sure if this celebrity has made it onto HS, but I recently stumbled upon the Dean and Tori show and realized this guy has MLC. Appearance, behavior, patterns, expression, weight gain, interests.

I watched some clips of this show and felt like it is a gift to LBS. Seeing someone else's story play out this way helped me gain perspective. It is obvious (in my mind) that this guy's problems are not psychological or marital. I think the show also depicts what is going on with the OW and the dynamic of this disfunctional relationship while showing that a woman drawn to this (i.e. the OW) really is living a fantasy and in her own psychodrama that is tragic for her as well.

If you have not seen this before, here is a clip where the OW meets the LBS after about a decade post bomb drop and now that she knows the MLCer has cheated on her as well. Who is coming out on top here?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aWIKLsZKZPs

Velika, I followed the link and agree with you. Look at this clip after Tori returns home from her meeting with LBS (he monsters away; it's all about him): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyWFLQA5AaU

I saw this as well! Yes. LBS comes across as attractive, sane, strong, honest. But according to him, she is "crazy," "manipulative."

He totally projects too: "The more she comes across as this wonderful loving person, the more people are going to ask, what the {eff} is Dean's problem?" Then he wants her off the show -- !!

Here is another one worth watching to get into the rationale for infidelity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKdYeyOOyxw

Sorry, updating to add this assembly of clips from the LBS. Also must-see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8WvzXcHeH8

[Songanddance]

I just caught up with these clips and whilst yes it looks pretty obvious what is going on here, there is in my mind a deeper issue here.

Why on earth would anyone LBS/OW or MLCer want the camera following their every move and detail?  All of them have greater issues than the plain old MLC ones that are clearly happening but really?

[Velika]

I have to admit I have become a little obsessed with this story. Watching the interactions of this OW and MLCer is a huge window into the dynamics of this type of relationship.

I found this description by his LBS of her bomb drop. It was uncannily similar to my own, and I'm sure of 90 percent of all of yours. She really nailed the flat expression and detachment. It made me wonder what he was like before this; after all she seems smart and amazing. He couldn't have always been this space out zombie you see on the show.

For anyone who wants to read it, how he left her for "soul mate" of three weeks:
http://www.deceptology.com/2010/08/story-of-discovery-of-adulterous-affair.html

PS Interview with the LBS. I think she speaks for many of us! https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/life/life-after-divorce-mary-jo-eustace-enjoys-her-second-act/article4291869/%3Fservice%3Damp

[shimmerofhope]

I followed these clips as well. Did you see the clip where tori meets up with her ex. It doesn't show the actual.meeting but it does show her reaction afterwards. She's crying because she said he (the ex) was someone who felt safe, someone that really knew her and now she felt lost. She did feel bad for hurting him and that he was a good man. That was an interesting clip because she goes home and tells Dean how she felt. The only thing is she continues to get pregnant by Dean and I think is still married to him. I really do think the winners in this thing are the exes. Tori and dean's life is full of lies, cheating, babies, and drama. Personally what they deserve. Feel sorry for all the children involved.