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#90: November 10, 2016, 07:53:26 AM
Phoenix your article was amazing.  Incredible even!  It breaks my heart that so many American's including many here, let their OWN personal issues rule the day. With absolutely no regard for the rest of their nation, the rest of the world, they ELECTED one of the most repulsive men, I have EVER listened to. 

I am so disgusted, so horrified, I can't even explain myself.  I have NEVER in my 64 years been more REPULSED and horrified then I am at this moment. I am so disappointed in my fellow American's.  I cannot for the love of me understand how all American' did not grasp the importance of this ELECTION.  Almost 50% of you didn't bother to vote... because you decided you didn't like EITHER candidate... you stuck your head in the sand and left it to others to decide.  Cowards!

Many allowed their own personal single insignificant issue to determine their vote.  It is obvious that personal self was put before COUNTRY in this election.  You can tolerate being embarrassed and laughed at by the rest of the world.  You can tolerate being controlled by the Russians.  You can tolerate having your president stand before the world and demean and belittle anybody he so pleases, as long as you think he will solve your silly little individual issue. 

You think Affordable Health Care is more important then the security of your nation.  You are willing to trust your security in the hands of a man who has destroyed more businesses then he has EVER created.  He has stiffed more people then you even know, yet choose to believe he is going to bring jobs back to America.  Really.  The man who has all of his factories in countries of cheap labour. 

I hope you are all sleeping well, because I can assure you, the rest of the world is not.  Well done. 

P.S.- Just saw your follow up Phoenix... omg... all I can say is... OMG!  All this is so obvious to the rest of the world!  Seriously, you need to do something about your educational standards.  They need to understand the Global world they live in it.  They need to understand that the border is not the end of their DRIVEWAY!  This just becomes more and more disturbing. 

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Re: U.S. Election
#91: November 10, 2016, 07:56:55 AM
Phoenix,

Most of those theories aren't too far off base.

I read something interesting today about the Electoral College.  The people who make up the Electoral C could refuse to vote for Trump in December, or in some cases could give their vote to Clinton.  Which could give her the election.

Of course I'm dreaming here because It's extremely rare they would ever do that, but it is possible.  :)
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#92: November 10, 2016, 07:58:50 AM
I suppose all that voted for this DEMOCRATIC clown have their reasons, yet It boggles my mind! All of it! From the treatment I received from my coworkers at the polling place to the ones that scream until they blue they honor the constitution, yet prefer a womanizing, unqualified inexperienced candidate who just changed his party a few years ago  ::)

I know my mom is scared. H was triggered back into Replay.

Maybe Trump being as old as he is, the oldest man ever to be elected, had something to do with it? Maybe senility? who knows? 

Senile old people often complain right? Do they also instill FEAR into everyone? I admit I'm sort of scared too. Scared to have happen to me like what happened at the polling place, mistaken for something I'm not and blamed for something I didn't do.

Welp this post racial America is over, or maybe it just never was, as I always thought.   
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#93: November 10, 2016, 08:00:41 AM
This is a website for standing, not politics ;)
Jk, couldnt resist!
I know this was posted as a joke but I want to counter it anyway by mentioning how impressed I am by the very interesting and informative posts by Phoenix, Elegance, SongandDance, and 1Trouble. Much more helpful than the stuff that passes for journalism that's being reported by the mass media.

And thanks to UrsaMajor for the link to the article about why we're grieving. It put into words the reason why I and so many other people I know were stunned and in shock yesterday morning. My college students were almost totally unresponsive. I've never seen anything like it. It was like trying to teach the dead.

Donald Trump's vision of America is not one that I agree with, it's not one that I would have believed so many others would go along with, and it's not a vision of a country that I want to live in. As an older white Christian male I might appear to be someone who would appreciate and benefit from Donald Trump's vision but I don't want to live in a country where people are judged not because of who they are but because of the category they fit into. Just as I would prefer that people not assume because I am an older white Christian male I would support and approve of Donald Trump and his policies and behavior.
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#94: November 10, 2016, 08:02:30 AM
  Almost 50% of you didn't bother to vote... because you decided you didn't like EITHER candidate... you stuck your head in the sand and left it to others to decide.  Cowards!

  Hey...easy there now (I didn't take it personally).  I am one of those that DIDN'T vote.  Why-because I am not informed enough TO make a decision to vote.  I just don't get into politics at all.  My personal opinion is the system is BROKEN, and it has been for a very long time.  I also feel that although the president does have power (especially "influence"...look at the stock market....it was up based upon what he SAID he was going to do....nothing has actually happened YET), but other than that, he has no real power to enact any real meaningful change ON HIS OWN. -EDIT-  This is a double edged sword; if he could, we would be living in a dictatorship, if he can't then things generally don't get done because of political self interest, or governmental bureaucracy.

  HAD I voted, it would have been for Trump.  Not that I like the guy or his behavior (seems like an arrogant spoiled brat), but only BECAUSE he is not a career politician.

  I don't trust ANY of them.

Speaking of conspiracy theories...my own personal one is the US's days are numbered anyway.  Oh, it may not happen in my lifetime, or maybe even my kids' lifetimes, but EVENTUALLY, we will fall:

http://www.wrisley.com/cycle.htm

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#95: November 10, 2016, 08:03:54 AM
El, pleeeese don't put that man in my catagory.  He ran as a REPUBLICAN, not a Democrat.
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#96: November 10, 2016, 08:12:11 AM
Sorry Thunder, Trump just changed his party about three years ago.

There are idiots in all parties  :P
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#97: November 10, 2016, 08:24:04 AM
I know, El.

Funny thing is back then he supported and even gave money to Hillary's campaign.   ::)
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#98: November 10, 2016, 08:26:16 AM
Elegence, I am so sorry.  I thought this great divide was done and dusted to.  I was so proud of North America.  Apparently, it was just hiding, waiting to be brought forward when there was a need to BLAME somebody. 

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Re: U.S. Election
#99: November 10, 2016, 08:31:38 AM
Just joining in...

I am in the 'comfortable' (or maybe uncomfortable) position of not being able to cast a vote anywhere - which, of course, does not mean I don't have an opinion.

As a British citizen out of the UK since I was 11 years old, I don't have enough knowledge of UK politics and economy to even think about voting. I have lived 44 years in Brazil, where voting is mandatory for Brazilian born or naturalized citizens up to the age of 65  (my elderly parents make a point of voting! :P). Since I have never naturalized I cannot vote here.

I agree that the US president is a very big deal for the whole world given its hegemony over it. In fact, I often think the whole world should have a say in who the next president of the US is.

I think you had a pretty bad deal and like non US citizens in democracies around the world, the US voting system is rather complex and seems (to us) non democratic.

Here in Brazil, people would love to not have to vote, our candidates are not much better either. :P
In recent years, we have managed to impeach two democratically elected presidents. In both cases, the people took to the streets to protest and demand that they step down. In both cases, the vice had to take over.

Would that be possible in America? But then, you would be landed with Mike Pence, right?

It is unconceivable to me that Trump could even be considered a candidate, let alone get elected (shaking my head here - I am going to get a severe crick in my neck soon). I am no fan of HRC either, at least she was a legit candidate.

Brazil is known for making fun of politics/politicians - it is a national sport, much like soccer/football :P We have just had a similar choice here in the city of Rio between two candidates who were not really a great choice either - so there is a meme going around which shows our Christ Redeemer statue hugging the statue of Liberty, saying "Come on now, we're in this together, it went wrong here too!"

I just hope, for all of us, that Donald Trump is sufficiently impacted with the enormity of the role and toes the line. Brazilians are worried at what his presidency might mean for Latin America. Brazil does a lot of business with America and has always been a good friend, sometimes to its disadvantage.

Just observations from afar.
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