[Roma]

I have a feeling this thread will go on and on and on. I invite all to vent! I take issue with a few things someone said on this thread yet realize we all come from different places so their ignorance (the true definition of the word... just not knowing) will get ignored. I also realize this is a site to support each other no matter who we are, what religion we have or don't have or what skin color we have, so I'll leave it alone.

If only this country saw things the way this site does we could make this world a better place

On another note, isn't it astounding how Hillary Clinton's votes just keep trickling in?

REPEAL THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE!

[Phoenix]

Kudos to the mayor of Minneapolis, Betsy Hodges, who publicly stated that she will not participate in "scapegoat policies" and will remain a sanctuary city unmoved by Trump's threats to cut off federal funding to cities/states who refuse to round up immigrant community members. An increasing number of cities are joining her. When asked if it would impact her city to lose this money, she said, "Of course. It's in the tens of millions, but if we put money before what's right, then we have a far greater problem." She spoke of the racial anxiety Trump worked to appeal to across the nation, and how it had the opposite affect in Minnesota where voters not only went for Clinton, but also elected the first Muslim, Somali American state legisltaor, Ilhan Omar. This act of resistance, and others like it, are what it really means to be American and what this country is about and was built on.

Phoenix

[Thunder]

Hodges is a diamond in the rough.

Proud Minnesotan here, Phoenix.   

[Roma]

Want to also praise someone from Minnesota, Congressman Keith Ellison, who is a black Muslim who threw in his hat for DNC chair.

With all the hatred towards blacks and Muslims, I really hope he wins.

Slow Fade, I come from a place where gun culture is not common at all. Actually all guns are illegal in NYC. There are many other forms of self - protection other than guns. There are a whole lot of angry dangerous misguided Trump voters and others out here and our families need to be protected. We as LBS females especially should explore our options since our MLC men are either gone or not in their right mind now.

[elray]

Hungary, Kenya, Saudi Arabia and Turkey, what a fourthsome of great examples, Kenya being the least bad of them all, and the one who may have a legitimates reason for a wall . If the US have to copy examples, they should copy good ones,
no bad ones. 

Turkey and Saudi Arabia building walls to keep jihadits aweay is a sort of a laugh. They both sponsors jihadits.

Elray, I agree with LP that the countries that build walls on your list are not exactly beacons of democracy, even EU member Hungary under Orban took a big sharp turn towards totalitarianism, including suppression of free press and political freedoms.

I have to admit trolling you all on this... As I said, 1/3rd of all countries....
Would Sweden Norway and Austria be some "good ones" we could  consider "copying"?

Perhaps we can all agree border walls aren't xenophobic, per Se?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3383612/Sweden-launches-Berlin-Wall-Denmark-desperate-bid-halt-tide-migrant-arrivals-orders-travellers-ID-time-50-years.html

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/norway-builds-wall-because-migrants

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/world/691905/Austria-plan-build-huge-border-fence-stop-migrants-Schengen-EU-Brussels/amp?client=safari

[stayed]

I could not imagine being married to somebody who has voted for Trump

I'm sorry, but my vows said "in sickness and in health, till death do us part" and I don't take them lightly. If adultery did not send me to divorce court then certainly voting for an opposing candidate would not either.

[/quote]

Actually, nobody's VOWS contain the command that you or anybody else remain committed to a person who is abusive.  Who is a racist, and every other type of ISM out there.  In fact, I am wondering if OP is heading into a crisis of his own, along with his future bride!  As for Chuck, Sow Fades and Finding Hopes husbands, who are believed to be out of CRISIS or believed be EXITING their crisis... perhaps, you should reconsider that idea?

[stayed]

Just saying!  Taking off the filters, being POLITICALLY INCORRECT!  That's ok... right?

[Slow Fade]

we all come from different places so their ignorance (the true definition of the word... just not knowing)

Just because someone does not agree with you or embrace your political ideology does not make them ignorant. Even if you temper that statement with the "true definition" of "just not knowing", to me it is still an offensive statement. This is the attitude that put Trump in office; too many people being dismissed as "ignorant", "out of touch" "not educated" and not "enlightened." 

Actually, nobody's VOWS contain the command that you or anybody else remain committed to a person who is abusive.

I totally agree Stayed, however I do not think that if my husband disagrees with my political viewpoint that that makes him abusive.

It seems that the people who espouse tolerance the most are rather intolerant with people who disagree with them. (and I'm not talking racism or sexism here, I'm just talking normal differences of opinion that don't violate anyone's rights)

[Finding Hope]

Slow Fade,

Totally agree. Except during the worse of MLC, my husband has NEVER been abusive to me or anyone I know. And even then he never called me names or cursed at me. HE is a good man and his political views don't define him. He voted for Trump knowing how he ran his mouth. What he is hoping for is that he cant be bought, and will do good things for the middle class.

Honestly, Hillary is no peach. She lies and deceives. And works hand in hand with special interest groups. Most politicians do. He's like everyone else that I know is, lets see what he does.

And I have a question, what is more disrespectful to the women here. A politician that runs his mouth or a husband that physical cheats. To me, that would be more disrespectful to me but, they are forgiven.

FH

[Roma]

Slow Fade, I do believe you missed my point. So much get's lost in context online.

Finding Hope, Welcome to 2016. Bill wasn't on the ticket since the 90's. Hillary is, and she was the victim. If you want to get on Hillary for having a cheating spouse, why are you on this site? We support each other!

I feel that blaming Hillary for Bill's indiscretions isn't right at all. Not then and certainly not now.

Let's not compare Trump's philandering, constant disrespect to women and tons of others to a man that has been out of the White House for 20 - 30 years.