[Finding Hope]

No, Stayed didn't say it. I did. And I stand firm: if you believe it's ok to call women humiliating names, if you believe that that's ok, then I do understand if your spouse leaves you. That's verbal abuse.


OMG......................No where did he say that he believes it's OK to call women humiliating names, are you for real. I guess then it's OK to say that your husband cheated on you, with several women because of something that you said or did. Don't you see how stupid that is. RIDICULOUS. I didn't want to go there but, maybe you'll get it now.

FH

[Finding Hope]

I certainly hope that the new people don't bother with this subject. This is suppose to be a place where you can talk about how you feel and receive support and understanding. NOT, a place to be attacked. I glad that so many have strong opinions about our country and how it's run. But you know what they say about opinions...................Apparently there are some people on here with real anger issues, and are totally judgmental.

FH

[Roma]

I get people are upset, yet to be honest I'm SCARED! Not so much of what Bigot Trump will do yet all those people who voted for him. Do they really WANT a wall? Ban Muslims? they really feel that way about women?

If they want to be upset about the economy they might want to look at the Bush Admin who did it. Obama Admin was the ones who were cleaning up the mess.

Let's not rewrite history.

[elray]

My son's second grade teachers told the class something very important, which is that many people who voted for Trump did so not because of the shocking and divisive  things he said but because they were upset about the economy.

This is such and important insight, and so obvious about the areas where voting patterns really changed in the election.  Bernie and Trump saw the SAME ISSUE, although they offered vastly different solutions to the problem.

My wife is from the Appalachian area of pa...lots of blue color voters there who voted for Obama and low income voters voting democratic their entire life.  Not this time -- The only folks who voted for her in my wife's family was a young single women working at a university.  Coal country was recently economically devastated by new power clean air standards.  Any manufacturing they had over the last twenty years have long since left.  The only viable economic option remaining is cross country truck driving.  While that used to be a hard life, but a financially rewarding one, there came a massive new wave of drivers willing to live in their rigs quite literally and ship their paycheck back home.  Mileage rates dropped, independent operators got wiped out, and consolidated companies pay half of what they used to.

My parents are from the agricultural area of the state.  There, they talk of all the disappearing career paths for any child unable to take the college route.  Many of their friends and family members had long standing family businesses that their kids were raised to take over -- skilled trades like framing, roofing, dry walling, brick laying, meat packing,  concrete masonry... the list goes on and on..   trades than have all seen wages steeply decline due to either globalization forces or open borders policies.   My father is a UAW retiree.  The union gave him a great job and great benefits.  But he watched his company, once an employer of 1,000s in my hometown, once a top Brand symbolizing American toughness, whittled away to a plant that runs on less than 300 employees.   These are strongly religious people who initially told me Trump was so repugnant they would never vote for him, but by the time the election came, they couldn't wait to pull that lever. 

In my opinion, much of those jobs are gone forever.  I doubt very much Trump can do anything to change that course, but these people were desperate to find someone who would tell them it could be done.  For all the negative things Trump said and did, he sold these people Hope and Change.  Its a formula that always seems to work in politics. 
       

[terrified_in_TN]

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If they want to be upset about the economy they might want to look at the Bush Admin who did it. Obama Admin was the ones who were cleaning up the mess.

Let's not rewrite history.

Personal Opinion:  I don't think it was Bush's fault.  Or Clinton's fault.  Or Reagan's Fault.  Or Carter's fault.

Personally I think the start of our economic mess started back in the 70's with Richard Nixon, possibly even much further back than that:

http://www.businessinsider.com/history-of-us-gold-standard-2015-12

No, I'm not one of those "invest in GOLD" nuts-but since there is a finite amount of gold available in the ground, it at least kept the dollar somewhat grounded....think of a baloon tied to a rock.  We lifted the standard, and now nothing tangible backs our dollar at all, removing the restraint for the government to freely print as many as they wish.  They effectively cut the string from the balloon.

-T

[OldPilot]

I get people are upset, yet to be honest I'm SCARED! Not so much of what Bigot Trump will do yet all those people who voted for him. Do they really WANT a wall? Ban Muslims? they really feel that way about women?

Do you really think we are going to get a wall? Ban Muslims?

I don't.

And to set the record straight I don't feel that way about women either, tbh I dont think that Donald Trump does either.
He has a wife and a beautiful daughter, two daughters in laws that dont think that either.
He is a MASTER manipulator, AGREED!

I will agree with this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqYd6gh2r0Q

[evas]

And to set the record straight I don't feel that way about women either

How many pages did it take you to come forward and say that? I didn't think you did OP. You're white and you're a man, you were simply not personally offended. Good for you. Not everyone has the same privilege. But would it have been ok for a man to say those things to your daughter? Would you yourself be ok with your daughter being with a man who had those views of women? I didn't think so. And yet you gave him your vote...

Electing Trump makes us all looks like a bunch of clowns and scary times are ahead. You and others aligned yourself with someone who spewed racist remarks and hurled insults at women time and again. And that person is now, by the way, celebrated with a parade by the KKK.

[Roma]

 That's good for you OP, many disagree with you and take Trumps words on face value. Just saw an article that backs up Eva's words about a KKK parade

THESE types of things are what scares me>>>

The Ku Klux Klan says it will hold a Trump victory parade in North Carolina

  http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-updates-trail-guide-kkk-trump-north-carolina-1478822255-htmlstory.html

[Velika]

I agree with you Evas. No one should accept this type of statement from anyone and most especially people in power. It is disgraceful and a failure of the education system that people do not expect a humble apology and withdrawal from the race.

Baby boys show more of a range of emotion than baby girls. Men become warped in a culture than doesn't allow them to feel vulnerable, sensitive, beautiful, passionate, or connected to each other in an intimate and meaningful way. They lose a part of themselves. We lose a part of men.

The other day I was with some girlfriends having coffee. There was a group of stay-at-home dads with their baby boys and girls, all adorable. The dads looked stylish, healthy, handsome, and energetic; the entire group was multicultural. They were feeding the kids, talking, laughing. That's the world I want to live in.

We can all be so much more but when we don't have the role models and leadership we may not realize. Until we raise boys differently, nothing will ever change.

[Finding Hope]

OMG, OP, your white  Well, you've been forgiving don't you feel better now. 

Love ya Bro