[osb]

OK, maybe I'll now declare that some dude named Thundarr want to kill me. With about as much evidence as he's pulled out of his ear about good, bad or indifferent Muslims. Maybe I can have everyone from Texas barred from Canada, just to be safe.    ...I'm kidding.  But we'll happily take your share of refugees up here.

There's a lot of hypocrisy and control issues when it comes to women's dress, but there's as much hypocrisy and control issues when it comes to women's undress. And it is not limited to one place in the world.

Too true. What portion of their bodies women consider to be personal geography varies so much by place and time. Some parts of Africa, breasts are not covered (some parts of India too, until the missionaries came). My mom wears a sari, has worn it every day to work since 1961. Covers you down to your ankles (don't think I've ever seen my mom's ankles; she even went cross-country skiing in a sari! ). Mind you, from bra line to waistline, you're exposed and hanging out there. But no problem, perfectly professional and stylish. Only once, she had a colleague complain that "your dress is too sexy, that means you must be repressed culturally by your men" . Mom still boggles over that one... But a few months ago in Nice, a woman was arrested for wearing a sari because it was considered too covered up!

I think women everywhere are pretty capable of negotiating how much skin and which skin they wish to reveal. And who they want to touch them. And how they wish to be spoken about by presidents. 

[Roma]

If Trump were all that wouldn't NY, NJ and CT voted for him? He didn't win those states.

If there is no evidence of anything, his next Travel Bill won't get passed either. Why not focus on something in reality?

I really feel Trump and his supporters live in an Alternate Universe. They are are so far from reality.

[Thunder]

"Trump is the most alpha president since Teddy Roosevelt and I think it's just a shock to many people's system."

In my mind an alpha male leads not only his country but his family too and they follow.  If Trump is such an alpha male why can't he get his wife to follow him into the White House and act as First Lady?  She uses excuses that make no sense.  Her son could be escorted to any school yet she shuns going with him.

Has the country ever had a First Lady who didn't move into the WH with her husband??
The whole thing is weird.

[Thundarr]

Melania will be in the White House when school is out.  No need to disrupt Barron's life now.

And you STILL do not accept that there are Muslim extremists all over the world who want us dead and our civilization destroyed?  I won't argue about the philosophies of why that is, but the fact remains it's a very real threat.

So were you guys equally as outraged when Obama issued his travel ban in 2011 or when he identified those 7 countries as terror threats?  And "terror" in this sense means a LOT more than instilling fear.  It's about destruction and murder of innocents.  Do I need to start sharing articles of Muslims persecuting and killing Christians since you don't believe they exist?  What rainbow did your unicorn come here on?

[Thundarr]

And NY, NJ and CT along with CA would have voted for ANY liberal Democrat sight unseen because they're liberal states.  It means zilch to me that Trump lost those because no Republican would have won them anyway.

Oh, and I LOVE how California is now begging for aid from Trump.  Amazing, yes?

[Thundarr]

Nope.  No Muslim wants any of us dead because of our religion or national citizenship.  Nothing to see here, move along.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/christian-attacks.aspx

[Thunder]

I agree Thundarr, there is no reason to disrupt Barron's 10 year old life by having a car drive him to his school everyday instead of living in the WH with both parents.  Doesn't matter his father and mother were elected, by the people of this country, to serve our country as the President of the United States of America and our First Lady.   

It really should be about Barron and what is best for him.

[karmirtsaghik]

Thundarr,

Now you are in war with great state of California that begged to differ and tell Donald Trump, that they do not need his advice on climate change, that they already implementing their climate change policy and it looks like it bears some positive results, or California, that set a minimum wage at $15 and against all odds of gloomy predictions, by mostly corporate America, is doing quite well in terms of economic growth, job creation, innovations, etc.

 I have read today that California is moving towards single-payer health care system. Another step in right direction. Have you every been in California? Have you read about the power of innovation and the diversity of ideas generated by Silicon Valley, and their global impact. It has been possible largely because of America's friendly immigration policies, especially for IT specialists.

Today, I read that Trump's administration is reviewing the policies for tech visas. You know why? Because his chief strategist Bennon said that he is not very comfortable to see so many Asians in Silicon Valley. Needless to say that all the tech companies are up in the arms and trying to do damage control. It is hard to imagine, that a person who taunts himself as a big businessman, is so close-minded and uses the tactics of 19 century  protectionist playbook.

Meanwhile, China is facilitating the entry of educated and talented workforce, by introducing the fast-track green card program for all the talent. As it is now, there is already a big demand for engineers in the US and it looks like China is going to lure the talent from the US. By the time Trump is done "Making America Great" again, America will be in such a shape that everything will look great. 

P.S. Trump's sons, the ones that he "divested" his business interests to are now in Dubai, opening the new golf course. One would wonder, why UAE was not on the list of immigration ban? It is also funneling oil money into the ISIS and other terrorists organizations.

[Thundarr]

Afghanistan is not on the list and I don't think there are any Trump Toweres there.  Dubai is neutral and a vacation mecca that many US businesses use for corporate offices so it makes good business sense.

And please cite the quote from Bannon about "too many Asians."  Was it from the same source that said Trump was mobilizing the National Guard to deport illegals?  Just wondering.

[karmirtsaghik]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-bannon-disgusted-asian-ceos-silicon-valley_us_582c5d19e4b0e39c1fa71e48