[Did your MLC'er suffer from childhood abuse (physically, emotionally or other)?]

Did your MLC'er suffer from childhood abuse (physically, emotionally or other)?

Yes

65 (70.7%)

No

17 (18.5%)

Don't Know

10 (10.9%)

Total Members Voted: 92

[BrenM]

All that we know for sure is they weren’t like this when we met them and their behaviours are out of character and socially unacceptable. I don’t think it’s down to alien interventions but I do think fluctuating hormones are major player with a vast majority of people in midlife and is a likely cause of some transitions that turn into crises.

They definitely weren't like this before BD...and their symptoms do worsen after BD.

[Jackolar12]

Hi Brenross, I agree totally. In my opinion it has to be chemically induced behaviour change that makes them different probably related to the limbic system and hormone surges. It could be that hi ranking people do know the cause of MLC but it’s ethically unacceptable for them to try to replicate it on subjects and make in theory a Frankenstein Criser to prove their point ( I’m relieved about this).

Years ago great progress was made quickly at the expense of suffering subjects so ethics and morality has controlled for this thankfully. I am sure in the coming decades neural scanning and DNA will give the answers to your question so just hang in there while Big Pharma gears up to earn mega bucks out of MLC and miraculously it will become recognised.
Kind regards
Jack

[Thunder]

"I don’t think it’s down to alien interventions but I do think fluctuating hormones are major player with a vast majority of people in midlife and is a likely cause of some transitions that turn into crises."

I couldn't agree with you more, Jack.   

[Jackolar12]

Hi Thunder, I’m pleased you think along the same lines, the alien thing was just humour. It will be come apparent in the decades to come and you can bet Big Pharma have their sights on it. They had the cure for diabetes years ago and only in the last couple of years they say they found a solution to it.I found the original study while researching in Harvard University archives. I tried to access the same report two years later and it disappeared. Three years later I read a cure for diabetes was being developed through Harvard University studies, go figure.

[BrenM]

Thanks for sharing your insight Jackolar, it is greatly appreciated and very informative.  Please don't become a stranger again....we can all learn so much for you and your studies and theories.

[Treasur]

The 'dark triad' you mention is definitely something we see innM!C spouses isn't it? That potent combo of narcissism, chaos and an astonishing lack of empathy. I guess some of us might decide, with the gift of hindsight, that these are exaggerated versions of previous characteristic that operated in a more 'normal' range. For some of us, it really is the opposite of the person we knew for years.

I would imagine that an algorithm could pick up language and behaviour marker flags. Interesting project. ( I wonder what a site would do with the data though and how it would justify using it?)  A bit like reading posts here and seeing the same words and reactions and script-like behaviours.

I'm sure you are right that if Big Pharma could nail it down enough to come up with a product, it will. There is a lot of money to be made from MLCers...well, in addition to hotels, lawyers, tattoo parlours and car sales...actually quite a few LBS would probably pay a few bob to have something they could slip into a cup of tea for their spouse early on 

[Jackolar12]

Your welcome Brenross I’ve been busy on other boards and answering questions on a site beginning in “Q”, I’m not sure if I can mention it on here as I’m rusty. I’ve struggled with the death of my eldest son and declining health and that has taken most of my energies in recent years. I will contribute if I have something I think could help someone of course. Thank you for your support. I’m 8 years in and no contact since BD.
Kind regards
Jack

[Anjae]

So far, Big Pharma has no cure to diabetes. At least not here. They have a way to control it = meds. Different than cure. Big Pharma pretty much never has the cure to anything. Cure means not making tons of money.

Big Pharma is not the solution for MLC. And having people as guinea pigs also isn't.

The question remains the same, even those who believe in MLC think it is different things. Some, like myself and Jack see hormones/chemicals/depression, therefore solvable. Those who see it as an identity crisis think there is nothing that can be done, aside to let MCL end.

There are too many people and business making big money out of MLC. Lawyers, clothes brands, cars brands, real estate, tattoo parlours, restaurants, hotels, travel agents, department stores, even wedding planners. They will not want to lose that income. In essence, society has no interest in solving MLC. It is more provitable to have people in MLC.

Even therapist profit from it. Be it from the LBS and/or children or the MCL once the crisis is over - or at the start, when some go see a therapist wihtout results. Just look at how many HS members and their kids are seeing a therapist.

[Jackolar12]

Hi Treasure, yes at bomb drop I would have sold my soul to find a cure for her no doubt about that. And your right about the dark triad too as we all have levels of triad traits that could be accelerated though chemical exposure. It was an extremely interesting study and I can endorse it’s worth at identifying manipulation, gaslighting, and Machiavellianism in others.

Anjae where are you from? The report I found was targeting beta cells in the pancreas and developing ways to make them more effective. The test were on non humans at that stage. Big Pharma will release it no doubt in time. Results were significant in diabetes-reversal in non humans. I agree keeping us sick makes them more money but it’s getting rampant.Search Harvard University site, I came across the original by accident when I was researching addictions and treatment plans for prison offenders.

Brenross, make sure your Mlcer stays away from injecting insulin direct to muscle before working out. Insulin’s popular over here with the Roid boys, the increase in glucose can cause all sorts of damage over time.

[Anjae]

Portugal. They use pills here. Or insulin for diabetes type 1. That is not say that there will not be some more advanced thing coming along.

I believe diabetes, and pretty much everything, can be cured once the right thing(s) is(are) found/implemented. What I don't believe is in Big Pharma wanting to lose tons of money. But who knows, things may change.