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Offline Anjae

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My Story Re: Between the earth and the sky...
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2017, 04:36:10 PM »
What does matter to me -- *a lot* -- is how people treat each other.


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Re: Between the earth and the sky...
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2017, 08:33:19 PM »
Well, turned another year over on the BD chronometer.

I remember when one year seemed impossible.

Now? Well, life is good.
I am thankful for good friends.
Good health.
Money in the bank if not always in my pocket.
Interesting work.
A peaceful home.
People who love me.

I'm thankful for learning what it means to accept, even if it was the hard way.
For learning the difference between faith and denial, even if it was the slow way..

And there's still a lot to keep learning...

(edited to make it clearer that there's still a lot more lessons that I think I will value as as these..)

Like living in the now,
And laughing again,
And seeing joy in simple things,
And the healing value of a good cry.

And truly knowing, deep down, that everything really is going to be all right.

Hello, year four......
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Re: Between the earth and the sky...
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2017, 08:51:07 PM »
I am always so grateful when those days are over and behind me.....

Wishing you a continual healing path and that you will find peace and contentment as you continue to accept...there is absolutely nothing we could do or can do to change this.
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Re: Between the earth and the sky...
« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2017, 09:39:53 PM »
Came across this today, and even though it is written from the perspective of a widow, I think the grief process and attitudes toward grief apply whether one has experienced the death of a spouse, or the death of a marriage through the unilateral choices of a spouse. Or the death of a relationship, period. Thought it might resonate with others, too.

Stifled Grief: How the West Has It Wrong

After nearly seven years of personal experience surrounding loss, I can tell who is going to read, share and comment on this article and it’s not necessarily the audience I’ve intended. Those who have walked the horrific road of loss will shake their collective heads “Yes” at many of my points below and share with pleads for the rest of the Western World to read, learn, evolve and embrace these concepts. Unfortunately, my words will fall short for my intended audience because the premise does not yet apply to their lives...yet. In time, my words will resonate with every human on the face of this earth, but until a personal journey with loss takes place, my words will be passed over in exchange for articles about gorillas and fights over public bathroom usage.

There is nothing sexy or exciting about grief.

There is nothing that grabs a reader with no personal interest to open my words and take heed to my writing.

I’m here to say that the West has the concept of grieving all wrong.

I’d like to point out that we are a culture of emotionally stunted individuals who are scared of our mortality and have mastered the concept of stuffing our pain. Western society has created a neat little “grief box” where we place the grieving and wait for them to emerge fixed and whole again. The grief box is small and compact, and it comes full of expectations like that range from time frames to physical appearance. Everyone who has been pushed into the grief box understands it’s confining limitations, but all of our collective voices together can’t seem to change the intense indignation of a society too emotionally stifled to speak the truth. It’s become easier to hide our emotional depth than to reveal our vulnerability and risk harsh judgment. When asked if we are alright, it’s simpler to say yes and fake a smile then, to be honest, and show genuine human emotion.

Let me share below a few of the expectations and realities that surround grief for those who are open to listening. None of my concepts fit into societies grief box and despite the resounding amount of mutual support by the grieving for what I write below, many will discount my words and label us as “stuck” or “in need of good therapy.” I’m here to say those who are honest with the emotions that surround loss are the ones who are the least “stuck” and have received the best therapy around. You see, getting in touch with our true feelings, embracing the honest emotions of death only serve to expand the heart and allow us to move forward in a genuine and honest way. Death happens to us all so let’s turn the corner and embrace the truth behind life after loss.

Expectation: Grief looks a certain way in the early days. Tears, intense sadness, and hopelessness.

Reality: Grief looks different for every single person. Some people cry intensely, and some don’t cry at all. Some people break down, and others stand firm. There is no way to label what raw grief looks like as we all handle our loss in different ways due to different circumstances and various life backgrounds that shape who we are.

Expectation: The grieving need about a year to heal.

Reality: Sometimes grief does not even get started till after the first year. I’ve heard countless grieving people say year two is harder than year one. There is the shock, end of life arrangements and other business matters that often consume the first year and the grieving do not have the time actually to sit back and take the time to grieve. The reality is there is no acceptable time frame associated with grief.

Expectation: The grieving will need you most the first few weeks.

Reality: The grieving are flooded with offers of help the first few weeks. In many cases, helping the grieving six months or a year down the line can be far more helpful because everyone has returned to their lives and the grief stricken are left to figure it out alone.

Expectation: The grieving should bury the dead forever. After a year, it is uncomfortable for the grieving to speak of their lost loved one. If they continue to talk about them, they are stuck in their grief and need to “move on.”

Reality: The grieving should speak of the dead forever if that’s what they wish to do. When someone dies, that does not erase the memories you made, the love you shared and their place in your heart. It is not only okay to speak of the dead after they are gone, but it’s also a healthy and peaceful way to move forward.

Expectation: For the widowed - If you remarry you shouldn’t speak of your lost loved one otherwise you take away from your new spouse.

Reality: You never stop loving what came before, and that does not in any way lessen the love you have for what comes after. When you lose a friend - you don’t stop having friends, and you love them all uniquely. If you lose a child and have another, the next child does not replace or diminish the love you had for the first. If you lose a spouse, you are capable of loving what was and loving what does not cancel out or minimize the next. Love expands the heart, and it’s okay to honor the past and embrace the future.

Expectation: Time heals all wounds.

Reality: Time softens the impact of the pain, but you are never completely healed. Rather than setting up false expectations of healing let’s talk about realistic expectations of growth and forward movement. Grief changes who you are at the deepest levels and while you may not forever be in an active mode of grief you will forever be shaped by the loss you have endured.

Expectation: If you reflect on loss beyond a year you are “stuck.”

Reality: Not a day goes by where I am not personally affected by my loss. Seeing my children play sports, looking at my son who is the carbon copy of his Dad or hearing a song on the radio or smell in the air. Loss because part of who you are and even though I don’t choose to dwell on grief it has a way of sneaking in now and again even when I’m most in love with life at the current moment. It’s not because we dwell or focus, and it’s not because we don’t make daily choices to move forward. It’s because we loved and we lost, and it touches us for the remainder of our days in the most profound ways.

Expectation: When you speak of the dead you make the griever sad, so it’s best not to bring them up.

Reality: When we talk about our lost loved one we are often happy and filled with joy. My loss was six and a half years ago and to this day, my late husband is one of my favorite people to talk and hear about. Hearing his name makes me smile and floods my mind with happy memories of a life well lived. It makes the grieving sadder when everyone around them refuses to say their name. Forgetting they existed is cruel and a perfect example of our stifled need to fix the unfixable.

Expectation: If you move forward you never loved them or conversely if you don’t move forward you never loved them.

Reality: The grieving need to do what is right for them, and nobody knows what that is except the person going through it.

Expectation: It’s time to “move on.”

Reality: There is no moving on - there is only moving forward. From the time death touches our lives we move forward, in fact, we are not given a choice but to move forward. However, we never get to a place where the words move on resonate. The words “move on” have a negative connotation to the grieving. They suggest a closure that is nonexistent and a fictitious door we pass through.

Expectation: Grief is a linear process and a series of steps to be taken. Each level is neatly defined and the order predetermined.

Reality: Grief is an ugly mess full of pitfalls, missteps, sinking, and swimming. Like a game of shoots and ladders, you never know when the board might pull you back and send you down the ladder screaming at the top of your lungs. Just when you think you’ve arrived at the finish, you draw a card that sends you back to start and just when it appears you’ve lost the game you jump ahead and come one step closer to the front of the line.

Expectation: The grieving should seek professional forms of counseling exclusively.

Reality: The grieving should seek professional forms of counseling but also the grieving should look strongly towards alternative modes of therapy like fitness, art, music, meditation, journaling and animal therapy. The grieving should take an “active” part in their grief process and understand that coping comes in many different forms for all the different people who walk this earth.

Expectation: The grieving either live in the past or the present. IT is not possible to have a multitude of emotions.

Reality: The grieving live their lives with intense moments of duality. Moments of incredible happiness mixed with feelings of deep sadness. There is a depth of emotion that forever accompany those who have lived with a loss. That duality can cause constant reflection, and a deeper appreciation of all life has to offer.

Expectation: The grieving should be able to handle business as usual within a few weeks.

Reality: The brain of a grieving person can be in a thick fog, especially for those who have experienced extreme shock, for more than a year. Expect forgetfulness, a reduced ability to handle stress and grayness to be commonplace after a loss.

I’ve just scratched the surface above on the many areas where grief is misunderstood in our society.

One hundred percent of the people who walk this earth will deal with death. Each of us will experience the passing of someone close that we love or our personal morality. It is about time we open up the discussion around death, dying and grief and stop the stigma that surrounds our common bond. Judgment, time frames, and neat little grief boxes have no place in the reality that surrounds loss. Western culture asks us to suppress our pain, stuff our emotions and restrain our cries. Social media has given many who grieve the opportunity to open up dialogue, be vulnerable on a large scale level and take the combined heat that comes with that honesty. As a whole, society does not want to hear or accept that grief stays with us in some capacity for the rest of our lives. Just like so many other aspects of our culture, we want to hear there is a quick fix, a cure-all, a pill or a healthy dose of “get over it” to be handed out discreetly and dealt with quietly.

The reality is you will grieve in some capacity for the rest of your life. Once loss touches you-you are forever changed despite what society tells you. Stop looking at the expectations of an emotionally numbed society as your threshold and measuring stick for success. Instead, turn inward and look at the vulnerable reality of a heart that knows the truth about loss. With your firsthand knowledge escape the grief box and run out screaming truth as you go. If we make enough noise maybe someday societies warped expectation will shift to align with reality.

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Re: Between the earth and the sky...
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2017, 12:53:08 AM »
Excellent article, Onward -- I agree.

Grief affects us all in different ways; the fact that it affects us for a long time doesn't mean that we are stuck, doing it "wrong", or anything else. 

We don't get over things like this, we learn to live with them. 

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Re: Between the earth and the sky...
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2017, 03:42:41 AM »

Thank you for sharing this article and it's truths. 

I have a friend that lost a son, 19 years ago.  Every year on the anniversary of his death, she relives that moment.  And every year on his birthday the entire family celebrates his life, by gathering with friends at the waterway he loved and spreading flowers.  He is talked about, remembered, and allowed to live on forever. 

She has taught me so much about strength through grief.  Her grieving will never, ever end, yet she still embraces life and allows her son to be part of their lives.
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Re: Between the earth and the sky...
« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2017, 09:12:55 AM »
That is a great article Onward! Being here on HS allows us a chance to grieve at our timeline. Not the one that is easier for our friends and family that deal with us  their wishes for us to be happy again are nice but it's a painfully slower process than anyone else wants to deal with.
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Re: Between the earth and the sky...
« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2017, 11:44:30 AM »
I feel a kinship to you.  I know and can feel your story.  I am sorry we are here, and hope for us both, that we continue to heal everyday and that something fabulous is around the corner.
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Re: Between the earth and the sky...
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2017, 01:09:04 PM »
Wishing you the best, Onward
I hope year 4 finds you in a place of no longer counting the years as they relate to BD
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Re: Between the earth and the sky...
« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2017, 01:26:33 PM »
I'm at seven years since BD and I still cry and I still hurt but I don't feel a failure or like I'm standing still.

I loved my H deeply and it's not something that just leaves you. I believe I'll feel this way for the rest of my life.

Everyone deals with this differently and handles it in their own way.



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