[Lastresort]

Hey Nah,

I am sorry you didn't get the invite for Christmas.   Make sure you enjoy the time with your son.        Maybe it wasn't a slight maybe your daughter didn't want to rub your face in your ex husbands new bride?    Maybe next year you get the invite and he doesn't.      As for contacting you or ex I was pondering that very question.   I have no clue which way to go.   I have to pick my kids up from her at 2 pm today.   If it's like tomorrow we wont say a word to each other or even look at each other for that matter.       NAH have a merry Christmas.

[nah]

LR, no in my circumstance my daughter has anger issues against me.  I know it doesn't make sense to most people but it's not too much different than loving our spouses and having them turn on us for reasons we can't explain to others.

Anyways,

Merry Christmas Lastresort.

[Thunder]

Merry Christmas, nah.  I think this time of year is very hard for a lot of people and I'm sure you're not the only one shedding a few tears.

I know the relationship with your d has been strained but I just pray some day she opens her eyes and accepts her loving mother back into her heart.

You just enjoy your time with your S and E's family.  The heck with the rest of them.   

[Lastresort]

LR, no in my circumstance my daughter has anger issues against me.  I know it doesn't make sense to most people but it's not too much different than loving our spouses and having them turn on us for reasons we can't explain to others.

Anyways,

Merry Christmas Lastresort.

Well I am sorry.   That is how it is.   I'm here if you need someone to lean on.

[nah]

The heck with the rest of them.   

You know that is my attitude the rest of the year.

 


...and Thanks LR 

[Shocked]

Today is no different than any other day of the last 16 months. No contact. He wants to be with someone else. Why should I contact him?

An extra hug Nah!!!🤗 I do sometimes have to remind my myself of that old life isn’t real anymore. That loss is very very sad!!!!

[monty]

I have been worse this Christmas than any in the last 3 years ,, I've been angrier taking it out on the kids , it's a good job I've got kids that are my rock especially my daughter,, my poor kids have been through so much with me ,, I wish we didn't have to see Christmas again it will never be the same I now hate seeing it come , I try so hard but I mess up all the time ,
But yesterday if I couldn't feel any worse a fella that has known the ex for a number of years , I bumped into and he told me he had spoke to ex , asked him about the wh*r^ , what she did how he met her blah blah ,, so ex opened up to him by the looks of it , said we were unhappy not right, he's now a valley boy , never would of said that before hates the valleys, wen asked she was a lot younger than him calling him a cradle snatcher he said a wide grin came on his face ,,
The fella asked about the kids , the ex said my son was ok about it , which if he was ok with it he would have met the wh*r^ and have some sort of contact with the both of them not just his father, so that's bull!!
And he said his daughter doesn't want to know so the fella said well isn't that understandable you dumped her Mam ,, he said nothing, he said this relationship is gonna work ,,, they are insane,
I told the fella the only reason it is working is the fact the man has two lives , he's living a single mans life with her , he goes out with my son wen ever he wants , he has no responsibility,, the wh*r^ as far as I'm still aware has not been met by inlaws , if he was so chuffed with his wh*r^ surely he would be telling everyone suck it up this is my girlfriend and we are serious so deal with it ,, but so far he is keeping everyone separate,, am I delusional,, is this normal?

[nah]

Monty....

You let the smoke and mirrors get you down.

Understandable we all do it, especially around the holidays.

Ok, so your ex ran into a mutual friend and fed him a bunch of bulls!t.  Does that change anything in your life?  Does that change what plans you can be doing with your kids?  Your ex has been living a life of lies for how long?  Do you think for a second that anything he says to anybody is true? 

File that conversation away with the rest of his lies and get on with making 2018 the best year you can make it.

[monty]

Thanku nah

[rsa]

In reading this thread it appears the success of reconciliation of a vanisher is remote at best.  I would speculate that my W will have a hard time admitting she was wrong so will force her new life to work at all cost limiting the odds of her coming back.  Some questions I have for the veterans.  1)  Do vanisher's ever come back.  2) What about MLC that change over time?  My W was a Boomerang for the first 2 months before OM.  After OM she was on-off then went 100% vanisher once she started to out the OM?  So what is she or does it even matter?