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Mirror-Work Intuition and positive thinking
OP: June 01, 2010, 10:30:12 AM
Hi, I wanted to start a new discussion. 

This was brought up in the coaching archives -- the idea of intuition.  I have been trying to meditate, to allow myself to get in touch with, for lack of a better phrase, my own intuition and judgement.  I find it hard to separate out what is intuition and what are just my desires. 

And when my desires are 'right', and when acting on them would be counterproductive. 

Are there good books to read?  I've been riding this rollercoaster for a long time; reading helps me -- what do others have to say about this? 
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Re: intuition
#1: June 01, 2010, 06:31:24 PM
I was reading that in the coaching archives too and am so glad you brought this up!  I am the same as you...I do not trust myself to know the difference.
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Re: intuition
#2: June 01, 2010, 08:19:50 PM
I am wondering the same thing.:)
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Re: intuition
#3: June 02, 2010, 01:59:50 AM
Sometimes I find that literally sleeping on it helps; for instance when H wrote me a pretty open e-mail about how he was feeling about things and what he wanted to do, I started out drafting a reply to the things he wanted to do, nothing was sounding right.

It wasn't until 2 (relatiively sleepless) nights later that it suddenly dawned on me that the thing to do wasn't to take him up on the practical discussion, but to just write a very short reply saying that I was sorry he was having a hard  time, that it sounded like he was feeling a, b and c, etc.  I.e. validating rather than doing anything practical.  Responding to the feelings rather than trying to 'fix' the problem that he presented. 

That time I literally got up in the night and wrote down my draft on paper, then relaxed enough to sleep a bit more.  I sent the e-mail in the morning.   It wasn't like he responded with loads of talk, but the next time we talked he at least hadn't closed down for that session.  (even though he's closed down again now...)

Now that doesn't help where you need to think quickly on your feet.....
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Re: intuition
#4: June 02, 2010, 04:00:31 AM
I think sometimes we ignore our intuition as we believe it is the desires we have for ourselves and our H. Even though they are in MLC we know our spouses very well.

When I have a dilemma to face and I am not sure how to handle it my thought processes allow me to bounce it around. This may go on for a long time. Out of this bouncing around I get a decision and let the thought go. Then out of no where a very strong decision comes into my head from nowhere. This decision maybe completely opposite to what I was thinking. But it is the right decision and I know that.

I wonder whether we drown out our intuition with the pro's and cons of a problem that needs sorting bouncing around in our heads and then when peace arrives our intuition is able to be heard.

Maybe we analyse what is intuition and what is not to much and then that increases our doubt and ability to let our intuition take control.
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Re: intuition
#5: June 02, 2010, 07:38:23 AM
Intuition comes when you learn to act without thinking it to death. However, it's different than being hasty and rash. You'll know it because it just feels "right" and not reactionary.

I also am trying meditation. I tried a few nights ago. I have always had a psychic connection with H and I feel really connected when we're in a psychic connection. I KNOW that we're connected, if that makes sense. I tried a connection and found him the other night and it wasn't pleasant so I've hesitated to do it again. I tried a few other times and just felt kind of disconnected, so I knew it was hopeful and wishful thinking and not a true connection. However, I'll try again soon.

Basically, in the past, I was never able to direct these connections. Now I'm trying to learn and it's hard. When H and I are connected, it's like he's in the same room with me and I can see him clearly, but not with my physical eyes. It's a different kind of seeing. I like to picture a golden thread that is connecting us, from his heart to my heart area. That kind of helps lead me to where he is. I've been in another state recently and known (verified later by the kids) when he's left the house and gone to OW.

It's something that comes from feeling and not from learning. I'm looking for pointers also on how to learn to "force" it but nothing has worked yet. RCR gave me some good tips, I hope she'll come on and share or give me permission to do so as it was in a PM. I'm sure she wouldn't mind me sharing, but as it was a PM, I'll wait for permission.
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Re: intuition
#6: June 02, 2010, 12:47:43 PM
Here we are all... I got permission from RCR to post her PM to me. Remember, IMHO, if you are a Christian, you should not be afraid of meditation but do it within the bounds of your Christian beliefs. Prayer and meditation go hand in hand, and intuition comes from those prayers and meditations.

From RCR: As far as mediation specifics, I laid out stones in a circle and laid inside them--sometimes holding one. I sometimes sat in lotus or a comfortable position and held a certain stone. If you focus, relax and concentrate--but release effort--you can feel the vibration.

I did colour meditation--sometimes with the stones. I immersed myself in a specific coulor, picturing it pouring over me.

Hold an object and concentrate on it--like watching the flame of a candle.

I did not worry about doing something right or wrong. Sometimes my mind was not quiet, but I just let the thoughts come through as they were meant to do.
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Re: intuition
#7: June 02, 2010, 09:51:06 PM
From what I understand each one of us has at least a measure of intuition, but as children we were discouraged from using it...having been taught instead to believe in what we can see, touch and taste.

Using intuition requires a belief in the Lord or Higher Power, as this is where the messages come from.  Like MH said, you learn to trust yourself, acting without thinking it to death.  This is believing in things you cannot see, touch or taste.

I have flashes of deep intuition that come out of nowhere; and it is those that I trust the most.  Some things I DO have to think out, because some of them I don't understand very well.

I can "see" more for others than I can for myself, and sometimes it is frustrating to find that I can "get" things for some people, but not for all people.
I'm generally too close to my own situation, but when I relax and allow the flashes to come, I can see more into my own situation...but it doesn't happen often unless it's important that I know something.

I have other gifts that I use on a regular basis; that are helpful in my work for the Lord; and these have developed over time and trials.

MH speaks of having a psychic link to her husband, each of you have this since your marital emotional bond has broken with your spouse...if you concentrate/meditate, you will feel what he is feeling, much like an empath that is versed in reading people's emotional weather.

When our bond was broken, I could read my husband clearly, like a well-read book...once the bonding reconnected itself, I was no longer able to do that..it is not allowed...the two marriage partners are supposed to be on a level playing field, and it would not do to have one more in the know than the other. :)

I can read other people with no problems..I just can't read my husband, and as of the time our son reached his 18th birthday, he was also closed to me; though son can read ME like a book. :)  We are both empathic.

The biggest factor is learning to trust YOURSELF; to become of the knowing that what you're lead to do is not harmful, but helpful...sometimes you'll get the "gut feeling" to do something, but because it runs against what you've been taught, you're hesitant to do it.

You will always know the difference between what's harmful and what's helpful..there will be a certain peace about what you're being led to do.

Sometimes you will be afraid, but learn to step out in spite of that fear, knowing this will help the situation at hand.

You will not always see results right off the bat...some things take time and that is where faith comes in.  I trust the Lord with all that is within me; and He once guided me into pushing my husband to the point of insanity...I was deathly afraid, and when it came to the moment of truth HE spoke FOR me and through me to my husband...there are times when we are pushed to speak to our husbands..as what is said will make a difference.

That is why it is so important to submit to the Lord and His guidance...He will not guide us into something that is going to harm us...it is always to help us learn, and to help the MLC spouse come forward.

The voice you hear will be a familiar one that you cannot put your finger on, plus, from my own experience, He reveals Himself to me in such a way that I KNOW without the shadow of a doubt that it IS Him that speaks to me.

The Bible says to test the spirits; not every voice you hear will be Him, and He further says that His sheep KNOW His voice.....I've actually had the devil plant thoughts inside my head and talk to me, but that voice was NOT the once I recognized..this is where discernment comes in; a solid knowing of the difference between good and evil..it is another gift that is developed through this trial as well.

The hilarious thing with the devil is this: he cannot read your thoughts OR your mind..he can only look at the situation at hand, and plant doubtful thoughts that way...if you answer that voice in your head telepathically, (without speaking aloud) he cannot hear you, and therefore cannot answer you.  It is only when you speak out loud that the devil hears you....I learned that a long time ago.

Understand the devil will use your spouse against you at times,(the MLC spouse is so far in the left field, they don't have the control the LBS spouse does) he hears the arguments between the two, because these are spoken out loud, and somehow things always get worse, as he's busy planting bad thoughts within BOTH minds as the argument ensues.

I'd seen it happen more than once..and learned to just take away the ammunition to prevent the devil from gaining any more power over the situation.

MLC is truly a spiritual battle of the mind and emotions, and it pays to know your enemy and know him well; learning to head off the attacks before they start....Satan comes to steal, kill and destroy, and he will use anything at his disposal to do just that.







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Re: intuition
#8: June 03, 2010, 01:54:08 PM
Hey all, I took everyone’s posts and put them into a table. Did I get it right? I don’t want to put words into anyone’s mouths.

Intuition:
Are still there after sleeping on it
Become stronger in time until they are convictions
Requires a belief in a Higher Power/God from whence it comes and may feel countintuitive
Brings inner peace when it comes to you, just feels “right”
May bring fear

Desires:
Are immediate and impulsive
May become stronger in time, but not as convictions
Is aligned with our own hopes and typical actions
Feel selfish
Feels comfortable, known – you’re not stepping out of the box

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Re: intuition
#9: June 03, 2010, 03:45:59 PM
Wow M&H...you have been busy!  Looks good to me!
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