Midlife Crisis: Support for Left Behind Spouses
Archives => Archived Topics => Topic started by: Bailmor on May 15, 2015, 11:46:39 AM
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I came across this and thought it might shed some insight into the minds of those our of MLCers who are depressed. Jim Vance, who is the main news anchor at NBC 4 in Washington, DC, recounts his struggles with the depression. Very eye-opening interview
http://www.nbcwashington.com/video/?_osource=SocialFlowFB_DCBrand#!/news/local/Jim-Vance-Opens-Up-About-His-Battle-With-Depression--Extended-Version-/303898191
previous thread: http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=3812.0
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Attaching - I will watch this when I get home from work.
Hoping your having a good day Bailmor. TGIF!!!!
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My husband is an extremely successful business man who has it all. He was always very humble and played down his success. I also know that he has low self esteem and he has always been less enthusiastic about life...but he wears his masks well.
Excellent video. Thanks Balmier
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The interview was a clear view into depression. It hit me when he said he didn't return to counseling because he knew facing his pain and crying would be inevitable. Successful therapy = avoidance.
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If it looks like a MLC it probably is a MLC
uk.celebrity.yahoo.com/gossip/omg/geri-halliwell-disappointed-fiance-christian-horner-parents-snub-wedding-family-feud-054027318.html
Christian Horner (41), FM1 boss and Geri "Ginger" Spice (42) got married. He lelt his parter of 14 years who had just had a baby girl to be with Geri.
And now Christian and Geri are not only married but ""Both Geri and Christian are very excited about spending the rest of their lives together. Geri has been planning her big day for a while and it is going to be a fairytale wedding."
Wonder when will people learn that if someone leaves they long term spouse/partner for them, they will not have much of a problem leaving the affair partner. And marry the affair partner? Let alone one who had just been a parent and left the child other parent? :o
And, yes, it is totally going to be a happy, full of trust, forever lasting marriage. Not!
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We have talked about whether counseling is beneficial to an MLCer in replay. Here's a statement from the horse's mouth about how it was not:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/25/arnold-schwarzenegger-on-marriage-counseling-the-biggest-mistake-ive-ever-made/?tid=pm_pop_b
As an aside, it sounds like he still hasn't completely owned up to his own role in his crisis, but at least he has somewhat repaired his relationship with his family.
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Besides Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner, who have decided to live on the same property while divorced, looks like Blake Shelton and Miranda Lambert are also calling it quits:
http://www.tmz.com/2015/07/20/blake-shelton-miranda-lambert-divorce/
Blake 'fell in love' with Miranda while still married to his longtime sweetheart and road manager. It not only ended her marriage, but also her career, and that woman, Kaynette Gern, ended up moving back to Oklahoma to start over. And...they followed her there! So she moved to Kansas and became a teacher. Good for her!
Affair marriages may take awhile to fritter out, but rarely do you hear of one that's forever - even when they're "adored" by the press and by fans like this.
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I think part of the reason is, if a man/woman leaves their family to have an affair with you how can you ever completely trust they won't do it to you? They were capable once, they could be capable again.
I know I'd feel pretty insecure.
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I think part of the reason is, if a man/woman leaves their family to have an affair with you how can you ever completely trust they won't do it to you?
You can't. And soon distrust, jealousy, etc will start to show. Some may lead long lives of misery together, but that is it.
However with MLCer who are on the second, third, fourth, etc OW/OM it is a little different. Only the first OW/OM was the one the MLCer left their spouse for. Still, since they are having a MLC is is not going to work. It may last, but it will never be good.
As for Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner I don't see it with having anything to do with MLC. Ben is an alcoholic and a gambler, Jennifer wanted to grab Ben in order to have a certain lifestyle. They are both known cheaters. It always seemed more Jennifer pushed, Ben gave in, for a decade they managed to play hollywood happy couple, but none of seem to had been truly. It is just very sad for their kids.
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I forgot that Jenn was with Scott Foley before Ben. Is that what broke up their marriage? i can't remember, but they were together for a really long time.
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Anjae, when I read the story about Ginger Spice and her husband I thought hmmm.... MLC? His parents apparently didn't attend the wedding. the wedding pics were in the usual gossip mags...very pretty pictures, but the real story makes me sad.
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Ready2, I thing Jen had a boyfriend when she broke with her first husband. Rumour also says she had told Scott she wanted to marry a real movie star. Guess Ben falls on that category.
Ben has a lot of demons that may be hard to handle even for someone who wanted to marry a real movie star. I don't think he is a bad guy, but the man has serious issues.
Fishtail, Ginger Spice story is MLC 101. It could not be more obvious and it will end in tears. But ginger never seems to learn. She is one of those women who, for whatever reason (low self esteem?) tends to go for married men. She has a pattern.
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If they cheat with you? They'll cheat on you.
Apparently some om/ow think they are special and it won't happen to them.
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Here we go again! Gospel singer this time.
After 23 years of marriage and management, Kelly Price and her husband have decided to divorce. Kelly told AlywaysAList.com in a statement:
“After the untimely death of my sister last year, it weighed on me heavily that this was something we needed to do. I ultimately made the decision to live the best life I can. I ended things because I didn’t want to compromise what true happiness was anymore. There are no hard feelings and I will love Jeff until the day I die!”
Kelly and Jeffery have two children together, son Jeffrey Rolle Jr., 23, and daughter, Jonia Rolle, 21. Kelly and Jeff have been together since she was 19. She says the split was mutual as they simply "grew apart." Jeff has served as Kelly's manager for years.
Kelly is set to deliver a new album in 2016, that she promises to speak about love and break-up. The album will be entitled, “Sing, Pray, Love Vol. 2: Pray.”
Story: http://bit.ly/1g97ltM
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Wayne Coyne of the Flaming Lips has gone off the MLC deep end. He says he's not having a crisis, he's having fun! Worries me that so many celebs are in MLC it's losing it's stigma. The title to this article is "sad Midlife Crisis" but will we soon see "amazingly fun MLC" ??? I guess the whole point of MLC is that the fun that Wayne talks about is superficial, childish and requires a lot of energy ... at 54, keeping up with Miley Cyrus who is early twenties, you might do yourself some damage. Replay affords the MLCer oodles of energy but it doesn't last.
If you google Wayne Coyne MLC it's interesting to read the articles to get an overview of high energy replay MLC played out on social and public media. He's had problems with band members, other artists, he lies about stuff to interviewers ... he is a creative genius no doubt about that but I wonder how long this burst of energy will last?
http://m.fasterlouder.com.au/news/39914/17-signs-that-Wayne-Coyne-is-having-a-sad-midlife-crisis
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Here we go again! Gospel singer this time.
After 23 years of marriage and management, Kelly Price and her husband have decided to divorce. Kelly told AlywaysAList.com in a statement:
“After the untimely death of my sister last year, it weighed on me heavily that this was something we needed to do. I ultimately made the decision to live the best life I can. I ended things because I didn’t want to compromise what true happiness was anymore. There are no hard feelings and I will love Jeff until the day I die!”
Kelly and Jeffery have two children together, son Jeffrey Rolle Jr., 23, and daughter, Jonia Rolle, 21. Kelly and Jeff have been together since she was 19. She says the split was mutual as they simply "grew apart." Jeff has served as Kelly's manager for years.
Kelly is set to deliver a new album in 2016, that she promises to speak about love and break-up. The album will be entitled, “Sing, Pray, Love Vol. 2: Pray.”
Story: http://bit.ly/1g97ltM
Oh good Lord. Did you watch that atrocity of a movie to get her inspiration for this title? "Grew apart" my ass. She should be banned from making Gospel albums.
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Wayne Coyne of the Flaming Lips has gone off the MLC deep end. He says he's not having a crisis, he's having fun! Worries me that so many celebs are in MLC it's losing it's stigma. The title to this article is "sad Midlife Crisis" but will we soon see "amazingly fun MLC" ??? I guess the whole point of MLC is that the fun that Wayne talks about is superficial, childish and requires a lot of energy ... at 54, keeping up with Miley Cyrus who is early twenties, you might do yourself some damage. Replay affords the MLCer oodles of energy but it doesn't last.
If you google Wayne Coyne MLC it's interesting to read the articles to get an overview of high energy replay MLC played out on social and public media. He's had problems with band members, other artists, he lies about stuff to interviewers ... he is a creative genius no doubt about that but I wonder how long this burst of energy will last?
http://m.fasterlouder.com.au/news/39914/17-signs-that-Wayne-Coyne-is-having-a-sad-midlife-crisis
Wow...just wow.
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Mostly a lurker here, but I had to come and share.
Ladies and Gents...i know it was stated Ben Affleck wasn't a case of MLC, since he was messed up with the gambling and what not from waaaay before, but it's being reported...HE'S DATING THE 28 YEAR OLD NANNY!
That, along with wearing his wedding ring and living on the property, his age and just the nature of his job...another one bites the MLC dust? I dunno, I feel like I see MLC everywhere these days...
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I really thought that with the nanny thing, too. ::)
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The problem with Affleck is that it is like Peter and the Wolf. He may be having a MLC, but with his past and his problems, it looks just like his normal way of being.
...along with wearing his wedding ring and living on the property,
This is, I think, something Jen wanted because of the kids. And he does not wear his ring all the time. Only in some events/pr photos. He took his ring off as soon as the panel in SDCC ended.
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Came across an old thread on here (2013) about Tiger Woods wanting his XW back. I googled it to see if they ever got back together and found an article from July 2015 that he still wants her back .. lol ..
Lately I've been really fascinated with the Scott Disick (Kourtney Kardashian) story and the Ben Affleck stuff also. I never really paid attention to any celebrity gossip before. But I'm enjoying rooting for these men to pull it together.
What do you think of these 2 examples? MLC, or something else?
Are there any other high profile couples stories that you follow?
Have there been any celebrity MLCers / standers / reconciliations in the media?
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Lots. I think this thread is 3rd in the series. :)
http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=6534.msg444990#msg444990 (http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=6534.msg444990#msg444990)
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Jon Hamm and his girlfriend of 18 years Jennifer Westfeldt have now called it quits.
http://www.people.com/article/jon-hamm-jennifer-westfeldt-break-up
He did rehab earlier in the year. Hoping he's not turning into Don Draper!
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Came on tonight to share. Pulling "a MeNow" but with videos tonight. Some of you may have heard of Iyanla Vanzant's show Iyanla Fix My Life. There is an episode with a MLCer woman. She had an affair and left her husband and two sons 6 times to go live with the OM, relationship with OM ended, and came back a 7th and worked with Iylana, the life coach, to decide whether or not she should stay this time.
Here are 4 snippets from that episode. Her show comes on Oprah's OWN channel on Saturday nights. She visits with people and tries to help them awaken and heal.
Enjoy:
Part 1
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xEpWVLzzKdk
Part 2
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=74T0cmXbYIA
Part 3
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-BFwcSdGI_s
Part 4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OFjGfEw3b9I
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Well, that was scary. There was another episode that was pretty important to this whole thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvYasCpqPvQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvYasCpqPvQ)
What I saw in those episodes was a shut down woman and a right fighter man. Her MLC makes more sense when you see that last episode. And it makes me want to go back and re-think my position that the LBS has nothing to do with MLC. Or maybe this woman was just a WAS not an MLCer.
In any case, back to the mirror I go....
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Well someone dismissive of how you feel it sure does shut you down.
Neither is perfect. If you can't connect (or have one person who has to be right all the time) you sure don't feel like you have a voice or may be valued or needed in the situation.
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There's also another I just found:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyP8qM34N_c
'When you exhibit certain behaviors, you lose certain privileges'.
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Omg I love that show! I've often thought we should be on it .. lol ..
I'm so glad she made an episode on MLC! Did she actually refer to it as MLC?
Looking forward to watching it sometime tomorrow. Thanks for sharing! :)
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Omg I love that show! I've often thought we should be on it .. lol ..
I'm so glad she made an episode on MLC! Did she actually refer to it as MLC?
Looking forward to watching it sometime tomorrow. Thanks for sharing! :)
She didnt refer to it as that, but with my now seasoned and skilled eyes and ears I am. 8) Lol.
A lot of people on that show have issues which may or not be MLC-related. She works with a wide variety of issues that I definitely think stem from FOO. One other was a pastor who had his wife sit on the bench on one side of the church and his mistress on the other side and he would conduct worship service! ::) Will look for that one and post too.
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In hindsight I can see me returning wasn't the most loving thing I could have done for myself.
I saw it as compassion. Thinking someone might need me or want the family back together. I made the whole thing way to easy. They saw it as weakness.
I did noticed the first thing she mentioned were her children would be the reason for doing it. Not him. She's concerned about the kind of mother she was. I'm not. I was the best mother I could be.
I'm going to stick with when the counsellor I went to (before the DV incident) asked me" "Can you see yourself with this man when you are 70?" I said "NO"
If I were any of you who felt your H's were the ideal mate to think long and hard about taking them back.
In the meantime be self-full.
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Rowan Atkinson (Mr. Bean)
http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/rowan-atkinson-divorced-in-65-seconds-20151110-gkvu1c.html
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So, his wife had enough of MLC Atkinson and got a divorce in 45 seconds. ::)
He had left and teamend up with OW a while ago. It being MLC, may last a while.
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Not MLC, but addiction.
What's poignant here is the articulation of the loss while they carry on living. Something that we and our children can all relate to.
http://www.upworthy.com/5-things-scott-weilands-ex-wife-and-kids-want-you-to-know-about-addiction?c=ufb1
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Not MLC, but addiction.
What's poignant here is the articulation of the loss while they carry on living. Something that we and our children can all relate to.
http://www.upworthy.com/5-things-scott-weilands-ex-wife-and-kids-want-you-to-know-about-addiction?c=ufb1
What a horrible family tragedy.
And yes Kikki, I would say that my own family could relate to many of the things expressed by this family.
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I read that earlier and was also struck by the similarities. Makes sense as our MLCers have addictions of one kind or another.
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For those of you who would like to watch the dysfunctional and stalking behavior of an OW and an affair relationship, purchase on Amazon or pull up on Netflix "Being Mary Jane", Season 1. You will not be disappointed. For example, the OW puts post it notes of affirmation and inspirational sayings all over her house to remind her of how valuable she is. She is a powerful woman in her career as a news caster but a wreck personally. Funny thing is that the actress who played her is an OW in real life. I imagine playing that role made her think about her own real life situation.
I continue to watch the show which is now in Season 3, despite the fact that the affair ended...what a surprise!!! Lol. The actress should soon expect the same for herself in reality.
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Anybody think Duncan Bannatyne
He seems to be causing bother with people and has said he has felt like commiting suicide, he hasnt of course but ran off with someone very young instead.
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crazyjourney, i thought the samething on duncan bannatyne when i watched the jungle coming out show. The presenter actually flashed up his wife and kids as the ow hung off his arm and went upstairs with him. He's what 66 and the girl maybe 30 ish. Ewww.
Dyed hair, work outs,fake tan. Yes fake, hes scottish. Lol
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Yes ow 35 and very pretty, I saw a pic of them in the newspaper and she was fawning all over him in true ow style, do these guys really think these women are after anything other than their money, silly old fools.
I once read an article about one of the playgirls after she came out of the playboy mansion, she said when Heffner had taken an interest in her she was on the bones of her ass and that was why she did it but had to either get drunk or high on drugs to spend intimate time with him, how gross!!!
I am sure there are some genuine love stories with big age gap differences but when there is also big bucks involved and very pretty girls it is a bit questionable.
Oh and of course in the case of mlc the eyes tell it all!!!
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Just googled duncan bannatyne. He apparently never saw his divorce coming and his wife sent him a text to tell him. He was allegedly a broken man after she did this, then got angry at her for all the money she cost him. She says fame went to his head.
But still the ow, come on. When she was interviewed she used the words powerful, influencial whoch says it all, its not the man himself but what he represents ans how it is now associated with her. Lots of the beautiful women of this world are as shallow at they come.
Remember paul mccartney and that bomb scare of a woman he got with. I reckon that was just grief talking there. Boy did he get his fingers burnt with that one.
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Richard Marx marries Daisy Fuentes over the holiday. They've been dating for about a year. He divorced Cynthia Rhodes - his wife of 25 years and the mother of his 3 kids in 2014.
Sounds - MLC-ish to me.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20803475,00.html
Quote from the article on the divorce -
The announcement was initially made on Friday's episode of Katie. "Well, you're back on the market," Katie Couric said. "How are you feeling about dating?" "It's all brand new to me, so I'm just having fun," Marx replied. While he did admit that recently turning 50 had had an effect on him, he insisted he wasn't having a midlife crisis.
Well, maybe he isn't having an MLC.... as he INSISTS that he isn't.
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A politician from the UK has caused serious controversy by sexting a 17 year old girl. He has been twice married and met second wife whilst married to first wife. D'd second wife this year after V. short marriage and has been caught out texting younger women including this 17 yr old. I am fairly convinced he is in MLC as the first wife has been very forthcoming in her bitter tirade about his behaviour during their marriage. This morning politician announced that he "was lonely and drunk when he sent those texts" No genuine apology but a massive pity party - smacks very much of MLC..
Second wife was co-worker in the political office when they met and has a chequered history too as this was her third marriage. Sounds all too typical.
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Rowan Atkinson ( Blackadder and Mr Bean ) in case any one from the outside of the UK is not sure.
60 yrs old - left his wife and Dd her suddenly and has moved his 32 year old girlfriend into home 2 weeks after D. Sound familiar?
However I had to chuckle at the radio presenter who said - " It matters little about the age difference really - I feel sorry for the girl because she is now living with Mr Bean"
I don't think he realised exactly how ironic his words were.......
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Thurston Moore Finds It ‘Really Strange’ He’s Blamed for Breaking Up Sonic Youth
http://www.collideartandculture.com/#!thurston-moore-collide-exclusive/cpl4
Speaking of the old days, I really liked the concept behind the book you curated and edited in 2005, Mixtape: The Art of the Cassette Culture. It seems extra poignant now that the art form is all but dead. What inspired you to get involved in that project?
I got inspired by going up to the office of the publisher (Eva Prinz, now Moore’s girlfriend) to pitch some ideas for different books on music. She had this project on her desk and she asked me if I would take over, so I did. Basically I called everybody I knew who had mixtapes, collected all these different images and collaborated with her to put this book together. We’ve been together ever since, so I love the book just for that reason too.
I bold that particular part because of course he and Kim Gordon didn't split up until 2011 and their divorce was final 2014. This book he produced with his now-girlfriend that he's been with since they worked together was in 2005!
I thought of Anjae when I saw this (more MLCer drama in the rest of the article) because I know you said once MrJ is occasionally in the same circles as these two. The pictures of her in the article are also typical affair down fare. Kim, however, still rocks!
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Don't forget Johnny depp and ronni wood!
I hate the way the media makes it all sound romantic and lovely. All I can think of are the poor wives and families left behind!
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Thurston Moore Finds It ‘Really Strange’ He’s Blamed for Breaking Up Sonic Youth
http://www.collideartandculture.com/#!thurston-moore-collide-exclusive/cpl4
Speaking of the old days, I really liked the concept behind the book you curated and edited in 2005, Mixtape: The Art of the Cassette Culture. It seems extra poignant now that the art form is all but dead. What inspired you to get involved in that project?
I got inspired by going up to the office of the publisher (Eva Prinz, now Moore’s girlfriend) to pitch some ideas for different books on music. She had this project on her desk and she asked me if I would take over, so I did. Basically I called everybody I knew who had mixtapes, collected all these different images and collaborated with her to put this book together. We’ve been together ever since, so I love the book just for that reason too.
I bold that particular part because of course he and Kim Gordon didn't split up until 2011 and their divorce was final 2014. This book he produced with his now-girlfriend that he's been with since they worked together was in 2005!
I thought of Anjae when I saw this (more MLCer drama in the rest of the article) because I know you said once MrJ is occasionally in the same circles as these two. The pictures of her in the article are also typical affair down fare. Kim, however, still rocks!
I read Kim's book last summer, it was really good. Definitely sounded like MLC to me. And she does indeed rock!
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Yes Ready2, occasionally those two are on the same circles- They have even meet a few times, Thurston, his girlfriend, Mr J and OW2, in Lisbon's music and nightlife circle.
Physically, and mostly the hair, the girlfriend reminds me a little bit of Mr J OW1, the original alienator. Not that they have ever publish anything together. The way she is holding/grabbing Thurston's shirt and hidding her face in his chest reminds me of photos of Mr J and OW2. And the bloated Thurston is not far from the bloated Mr J.
Clearly, this guys go from a strong woman on their level to someone weak, and much below them. Affair down all the way.
Poor Thurston, he finds it strange that he is blamed for breaking up Sonic Youth. After all, it was Kim's fault, right? ::) Or maybe it was Lee Ranaldo's fault? ::) Kim rocks!
Johnny Deep is not having a MLC, Serenity. He is on an artistic quest to find his inner Peter Pan and doing, with the exception of Black Mass, really not so good films. Johnny is an artist, artists don't have MLC, they explore new avenues. :P ::) ;D
Look who is back together (at least for now. Not sure how long Patrick is going to resist going car racing again) http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/patrick-dempsey-jill-dempsey-reconcile-stop-divorce/ Patrick Dempsey Asks His Formerly Estranged Wife To Renew Their Vows
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I love all the Kim Gordon love around here! I swear, a cooler bunch of LBSs you will not find. 8)
Look who is back together (at least for now. Not sure how long Patrick is going to resist going car racing again) http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/patrick-dempsey-jill-dempsey-reconcile-stop-divorce/ Patrick Dempsey Asks His Formerly Estranged Wife To Renew Their Vows
And this was just after he was linked with Jennifer Garner: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/12/31/jennifer-garner-and-patrick-dempsey-reportedly-dating/
Grass not greener, especially when she still has unfinished business with Ben Affleck as well!
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I love all the Kim Gordon love around here! I swear, a cooler bunch of LBSs you will not find. 8)
No it will not. 8)
Doubt she is going to let the Ben go. Too much money in the game. And, for her, without Ben most likely loss of fame. http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/jennifer-garner-ben-affleck-marriage-trouble-divorce/
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This may not a direct MLC case but you could see that the seeds were planted long before his playing career. So sorry to see how Johnny Manziel has fallen so far!
http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/marla-ridenour-johnny-manziel-s-deep-rooted-issues-could-bring-much-sadder-ending-than-browns-impending-release-1.659186#.VrJqhCCqFKF.facebook
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This clip is from Megan Kelly. She interviews Dr. Phil and what a statement about society. Wish there was more public distribution of information like this!
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/02/04/dr-phil-kelly-file-we-have-created-entitled-narcissistic-generation-people
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Yep rock star wanna be that's the ex. Only he waited until about 50 to do it. Mommy made sure he had all the money he needed. Played out two times. That was it.
Told an ex-friend musician of his (I found out recently)he divorced me and blew up the family because I didn't support him in the "band fantasy" (After I returned that's when the band fantasy was full blown and I was there for that too)
Ok so now what was it? Was it the exow? The band? Oh let me guess. It must have been the money he could get from the settlement and whatever else he could soak his mother for..
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Local celebrities of a sort, apparently ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/michael-and-ashley-darbys-plan-for-surviving-real-housewives-to-have-fun/2016/02/17/dace8a88-c50a-11e5-9693-933a4d31bcc8_story.html
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MLC written all over that story!
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Picture of shark eyes::
http://www.justjared.com/photo-gallery/3590327/ben-affleck-hangs-out-with-matt-damon-at-pre-oscar-party-05/
This really captures what they look like.
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Just read this in-depth article about Tiger Woods from ESPN The Magazine. If this information is accurate, MLC might be what Tiger Woods has been fighting that last several years. Very long, but interesting read.
http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/15278522/how-tiger-woods-life-unraveled-years-father-earl-woods-death
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Thanks for posting this Bailmor.I also found it to be a fascinating read.Had no idea how obsessed he became with Seals.Many MLC hallmarks in his story.
I do hope he finds his way all the way through.
"In therapy I have learned the importance of keeping spiritual life and professional life balanced. I need to regain my balance."l-Tiger Woods
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Not sure if this is a normal divorce, perhaps MLC or if there is more to this. I have know Cal personally for the last 35 years and thought he had an ideal marriage. I guess more will come out about this as it unfolds.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/features/baltimore-insider-blog/bal-cal-ripken-kelly-ripken-divorce-20160428-story.html
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I liked the article about Tiger Woods. And this is to say a lot because I have never like him, Very well written, very informative. An excellent reading.
But I am not so sure if Tiger was "only" having a MLC. Or if it was MLC. He seems to had so many issues going on in his life. And he was always a cheater, or, at least, a man of several women.
The way he was raised, the work and time that was put into becoming the best golfer ever, all that puts a toll upon people. Then the fame, the huge fame, the too much money. It can make people go crazy.
It was a great surprise to me to know he is into psychics and cosmology.
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So affair down Amber Heard has filed for divorce from MLC Johnny Depp two days after his mother died: http://www.tmz.com/2016/05/25/johnny-depp-amber-heard-divorce/
NO PRENUP. I really thought from all we know that she'd wait until she had at least one child!
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I agree -- very good article about Tiger Woods. MLC or not, he certainly had/has issues....
I also saw the thing about Johnny Depp this morning; I'll admit I had been wondering how long that would take, he really was a classic case....
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So affair down Amber Heard has filed for divorce from MLC Johnny Depp two days after his mother died: http://www.tmz.com/2016/05/25/johnny-depp-amber-heard-divorce/
NO PRENUP. I really thought from all we know that she'd wait until she had at least one child!
Well, that was quick! No surprise here. And, of course there is no pre-nup. He was in love with his soul mate. What could go wrong?
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Anybody read what the news is saying about Jonny Depp?
He has apparently gone downhill in his appearance since being with Amber and now has a paunch and puffy face!!!!
Hmm sounds like how a lot of people describe their mlcers doesn it.
Silly guy and he threw his lovely family away for someone that has let him down soon after his own mother passing, very caring wouldnt you say.
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These are an interesting contrast between the family's MLC reality and the OW waxing lyrical about the situation.
Heard is cautious about speaking of Depp, and as for the recent rumors of their separation: "I try not to react to the horrible misrepresentation of our lives," she says, "but it is strange, and hard." She says she would love to have children, and that being a stepmother to Depp's—16-year-old Lily- Rose and 13-year-old Jack—is "an honor and the greatest, most surprising gift I have ever received in my life … I feel new flavors that I didn't know existed. New colors that I didn't know existed have been added to my life. I'm so happy."
sources alleged that Depp’s two teenage children, two sisters and his mother “hated” Heard and were reportedly not shy in letting it be known.
Depp’s late mother, Betty Sue (who died on May 20) also believed the actress “treated him like c**p” and was using her son for his money and to further her own career, it was reported.
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/hook-ups-break-ups/johnny-depps-family-hated-amber-heard/news-story/9a364db41da801d345cd569c7eb9764b#itm=newscomau|entertainment|right-now-in-|0|Johnny%20Depp%E2%80%99s%20family%20%E2%80%98hated%E2%80%99%20Amber%20Heard|story|Theron%20and%20Penn%E2%80%99s%20awkward%20reunion&itmt=1464295570700
http://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/a16795/amber-heard-december-2015-cover/
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Should we start bets about whether he'll go on to OW2 or if he's already calling Vanessa Paradis and hanging up to see if the anchor is still holding? ;D ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D I'm stumped on that one Ready :)
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Johnny Depp was on the UK nighttime talk show The Graham Norton Show not quite two weeks ago to promote the new Alice movie. His speech sounded slurred and I remarked to my daughter that there's clearly some issues (besides MLC) going on there...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qovmzs_ebp4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qovmzs_ebp4)
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Yes I just read about his mother dying recently and two days later his wife of 18 months wants a divorce.
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His wife of 15 months, to be more precisely. Depp is having a MLC. And it not a nice one. But filling for divorce two days after his mother died? It seems very cold.
However, it may be that, since California law says that 50% of earning during marriage are to be split 50/50 Depp may not want Amber to have any money from rights from his films that are about to open.
Iamnottheenemy, it seems very obvious that, at the very least, he has been dealing with drinking problems. Most likely drugs as well. Those are not uncommon issues during MLC.
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Now it looks like she's claiming domestic violence.
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I just read that, InIt.
That their relationship was volatile from the beginning.
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Yes In it. The judge granted her a temporary restraining order. Apparently she has bruises. A volatile relationship. According to the article, this was not the first incident of violence.
http://www.coveragemail.com/entertainment/judge-grants-amber-heard-domestic-violence-against-johnny-depp-amid-divorce/
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Except her description of how the bruises occurred (as written in the media - if the media is accurate) doesn't quite fit with the bruises shown in the photo.
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The LAPD says she had no signs of whatever harm Saturday. But we all know that a person in MLC can turn violent. In this case, I believe he could have done it, but I also believe she could had staged it. Situations like this are always extremely complicated. It is up to the police/any other experts to determine what really happened.
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Agree Anjae - either scenario is a possibility in these MLC situations
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Another skeptic here. I too saw the reports on TMZ that the police saw no injuries when they were at the house after the argument, and she mentioned no violence then. She was tagged in Instagram pictures on Sunday with Amanda De Cadenet and Amber Valetta without any bruises at all, but the pictures were deleted on Monday. There's a reason she needed to marry for a career - BAD actress!
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I don't know this lady yet realize bruises don't show for a couple of days. I wasn't there so I don't know for sure what's the truth.I want to think Johnny Depp wouldn't hurt her, yet we are all a product of MLC so who really knows?
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I thought the marks on the side of her face looked a lot like a cell phone. That's what she's saying he hit her with. Maybe that's what happened Saturday and she didn't have photos to take until Monday.
It took my arm three days to swell up and bruise after the incident I went through.
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She was tagged in Instagram pictures on Sunday with Amanda De Cadenet and Amber Valetta without any bruises at all, but the pictures were deleted on Monday
There is also that. And Depp's camp is pointing to those pictures are proof that she had suffered no harm. Of course she could have been wearing make up. If someone had screen caped the pictures, they may have been removed, but someone may have the screen caps.
The saying to the police that there has been no violence, does not proof much. It is normal for a woman in such situation to say so. And the police knows it, and so the lawyers (and judges).
Regarding the restrain order, if I was a judge, I may also want to play safe. When in doubt...
To me, the bruises do not look like been cause by an object I can identify. But I am not an expert, so, I have no idea if it was a phone or not.
I bruise easily. When Mr J grabbed by arms and shacked me, I was immediately left with bruises. Ugly one, from top to bottom. But I know it does not happen the same way to everyone.
This story is bringing back memories to me, and not nice ones.
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Me either Anjae :(
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Me either Ange :(
This story seems to be a bit too much of a trigger, doesn't it, In It?
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Yeah..it does.
I don't think its due to Depp being a huge celebrity,but will I not watch any of his movies because of it? Probably.
A man who harms a woman isn't a man.No matter what shes done.
A man walks away.
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I believe her that she was abused. Why would she make that up, she could easily divorce him and receive alimony if that was her goal.
Once wife is out of the picture, does OW typically bear brunt of anger? Is this typically a volatile relationship?
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In It, I don't think it is that. Mel Gibson is also a huge celebrity. And there has been other celebrities. Not certain what it is this time, that makes it such a trigger.
Men in MLC are a mess. Famous or not famous. They do things they would not do otherwise. It is really strange to realise our own husbands are those men who hit their wives. And probably, some of our MLCers are also amazed they have become those men. If they remember at all what they did. Some don't seem to.
Velika, I'm not certain if it is that easy in California to obtain alimony with a marriage that only lasted 15 months. Plus, I'm fairly certain that if she had the pictures, any lawyer would advice him to deal and give her a very nice sum plus alimony. Of course he is having a MLC, so he may had not listen to his lawyer. Who happens to be a top Hollywood divorce lawyer, you would most certainly not want this mess in the open. It is hard to see how any of this serves her client.
Once wife is out of the picture, does OW typically bear brunt of anger? Is this typically a volatile relationship?
I don't know. Some relationships with OW are more volatile than others. They will always been strained relationships, given the way they started.
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More than likely..men like this do not face their own issues.They have to have somone to blame it on.
The ex and the exow chewed each other up and spit each other out in about 11 months.Same stuff. Verbal fights and lies and ego issues.The ex didn't lay a hand on her because he knew she had nothing to lose and would have had him arressted.
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Once wife is out of the picture, does OW typically bear brunt of anger? Is this typically a volatile relationship?
From Anjae:
I don't know. Some relationships with OW are more volatile than others. They will always been strained relationships, given the way they started.
And if you read RCR's articles on affair dynamics and the OW, there's a strong chance that an OW is borderline personality disordered, or has some of those traits. Who else would knowingly step into a relationship with a married man?
If you put your cellphone over your cheek and eye (as per the marks on the photo) you'll see that the eye is well protected, just as nature intended.
You'd need a fist to punch the eye socket for it to be bruised. And this isn't bruising. Bruising after 4-5 days is green/blue/purple/black.
The filing came five days after Heard filed for divorce.
Depp's attorney, Laura Wasser, declined to comment. Depp is in Portugal for a performance with his band Hollywood Vampires.
Wasser wrote in a court filing that Depp was out of the country and would agree to a mutual stay-away order. She contended that Heard's filing, along with requests for financial assistance from the actor ``appears to be in response to the negative media attention she received earlier this week after filing for divorce."
Heard's divorce filing cited irreconcilable differences and saying the pair separated the day before. She is seeking spousal support from the Pirates of the Caribbean star, but Depp's response filed Wednesday asked a judge to deny the request.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/80492569/amber-heard-accuses-johnny-depp-of-domestic-violence--reports?cid=facebook.post.80492569
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I'm worried a lot about this given I have a seven year old and my husband's OW is moving to the area.
If he is exposed to volatile relationship or personality disordered individual it could be very damaging.
Well, Vanessa Paradis is gorgeous, talented actress, handsome boyfriend who aged naturally -- so she is probably glad to be out of the picture at this point.
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Agree Velika, you will not be the only person seeing some very strange behaviour from your husband. Some are better at keeping the mask on in front of others, but it eventually slips.
You really do have to be a mama bear where your young son is concerned. He only currently has one sane parent. And that is you.
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I was reading the thread on MLC in the news and got to thinking, there are some really beautiful, lovely, and talented famous LBS.
In particular I was thinking of Vanessa Paradis, ex of Johnny Depp, I know there are others too who dealt with this and now seem great while their husbands look wrecked.
This cheered me up a little. I read Gwen Stefani said how unjust it was she had to split custody with her ex after he cheated on her. I felt really touched. People don't often talk about this.
Anyhow, this thread may already exist but if you can think of a famous LBS who is now doing well, maybe it can be some inspiration.
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OW could also be, or have traces, of histrionic, narcissist or antisocial. http://www.midlifecrisismarriageadvocate.com/mlc_personality-disorder_jealousy-and-envy.html
I don't think OW would necessarily be any of those things. But like RCR says, once into the dynamics of such relationship, such traces could be exhibited. OW could be in a MLC of her own.
I don't like to say people, including OW, have this or that mental illness, personality disorder, because even for a psychiatrist if is often difficult to know what a person suffers from. And it is known that the ambient we live in, and the relationships we have, can alter how we behave.
Velika, it is almost impossible to prevent a MLCer from being exposed to a volatile relationship. The relationship with OW, whatever its nature, is very damaging.
Kikki, what is the technical/medical name of what Amber's photo show? I know bruises is green/blue/purple/black, but that red/pink marks must have a name. Do you think Amber staged it? Or could it be that Johnny really hurt her, but not when she said he did? It is not hard to conceive that a man in MLC, who drinks too much and whose mother was dying (or has already died) may had lost it.
Vanessa most not be pleased at all with any of this. She has children with Depp.
Somehow, and for whatever reason I still have not managed to gather, this stuff is truly upsetting me. My mother had neighours whose sons, who were alcoholics and addicts, would hurt the parents. I have called the cops more than once on them, and it never upset me like this.
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Agree about the diagnosis Anjae, but whatever the relationships are, they are not having them with the men/women that we knew. And the OP are mate predators. Setting the MLC relationship up for jealousy and fighting and all of the rest of it.
Add to that, the immaturity of both parties.
My MLCer said long ago that his relationship with his OW was 'tumultuous'. I just about fell off the chair. Nothing like our relationship was, and I couldn't imagine what had him so hooked into this new one. It provides a lot of drama, which the MLCer seems to demand.
Anjae, a bruise is officially a contusion. When new, it is pink or red, like the colour of Amber's.
As time goes on it darkens and tends to 'leak' into surrounding tissues and is swollen and puffy (Amber's face shows no swelling), and as it heals it shows other colours. This is a good link.
http://www.symptomfind.com/health/changing-colors-bruises-and-what-they-mean/
So hard to know what went on, but I guess we can confirm that their relationship also is 'tumultuous'. I know Johnny is most likely very out of control, and have no idea how far he is capable of going when angry.
But I do smell a bit of a rat with this. If the media reports are accurate (which they may or may not be), then it all doesn't add up. Especially as he is right handed.
And agree - he could very likely have hurt her in the past, and even not necessarily on her face - but I suspect she thought this would turn the public tide back her way.
Absolutely, I bet Vanessa is horrified. At least the children probably see him together mostly. That provides a bit of a buffer there.
The triggers come seemingly randomly for us. I'm especially intrigued by this as I watched Johnny lose the plot publicly, on a similar timeline to my MLCer. There were reports of some odd behaviours well before he officially left Vanessa in 2012.
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I have no clue if Johnny did it or not, but without a prenup, in Cali, she's likely to get half his fortune. The divorce was inevitable. But Johnny is well loved, and she could easily be blacklisted in Hollywood if she's seen in the light the media was first casting. There would be some reasoning behind making him the bad guy, if she is making it up. TMZ has the Sunday party pics, with a big grin on her face and no sign of a scratch, and that to me speaks a lot. I believe no woman should be abused ever, no man either! But there are people in the world who lie to bring others down. If Johnny did it, I hope they throw the book at him, but if he didn't, I hope he's vindicated.
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This is a photo of Amber leaving court on Friday, May 27. There does not seem to be anything in the eye here, just on her cheekbone. It does not seem very purple or blue. But it may be a little darker than the ones on the other photo. The light is different, so it hard do say. Would the ones in the eye disappear in a week?
There is also something strange, the photo of Amber leaving Tiffany's. It seems the photo is from April, but someone leaked it to the tabloids after it was reported that Amber had filled for divorce. The only reason celebretries tend to release a photo of themselves looking fabulous is to say "hey, see, I'm divorcing X, but I am doing super extra fine". http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/amber-heard-looks-somber-bruised-after-depp-accusations-w208141
Again, I am not saying he had not hurt her. That is not hard to believe. But why leak the Tiffany's photo? It does not make sense that photo come from Depp's camp. This entire story is a big mess. Dates and facts do not seem to match up. Leaked photos to show one is ridding the wave after filling, then photos of a battered face.
We all know how men in MLC react. Who knows what is going on/really happened. But I would think his lawyer would had asked him to tell her everything, good or bad. And she may, and he may not have done it. Or he may have, the lawyer said, pay her the alimony, do not file asking for her not to receive alimony, he filled for her not to received alimony, she showed the pictures of the hurt/bruise.
We probably should be on her side. Even because I think we are all aware he has been erratic, to say the least, has substance issues, and can have a temper when under the influence. But, like you said, something sounds fishy. I hope it isn't. Women do not need a fishy story of abuse. It is already very hard to have people believe women. On the other hand, if he didn't do it, it would also made no sense for him to get the burned. Not that he will ever be able to make this go away, even if he is not to blame.
Any former partner/spouse would be horrified. The children may, or may not, know something. Or had previously seen something. I think they live with Vanessa, in France. So, they would not be around that often. And people can tone down if they have others around. Even if I am not sure how much someone whose mind is on cloud nine of alcohol/drugs can tone down. Depp seemed to have managed to film during all his MLC time.
The triggers come seemingly randomly for us.
You are right. Very odd how they manifest.
Ready2, no, it seems that in California, all you are entitled is to half of the money made during the marriage. So, only the money Johnny made for the 15 months they were married. At least that is what is been written everywhere. I also had the idea that in California, without a prenup, it would be half of everything, but all I have read say it is only for money made during the marriage. Maybe they have changed the law?
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I'd say Helena Bonham-Carter was a good one, but maybe Tim Burton's MLC is karmic payback for her role in the Kenneth Branagh/Emma Thompson split?
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Who is Tim Burton dating? I Googled and he has shark eyes for sure!
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Actually V, there is a discussion thread for this already. It's titled MLC in the News: Celebrities, News Stories, etc. Part 3
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Thunder, yes, I'm always making repeat threads. Feel free to merge!
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I'm gonna merge it, but I like the theme! It's far more positive to focus on the LBSs that continued to be fabulous amidst the chaos, than to look at the mess on the other side of it. :)
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This is a continuation of the Johnny Depp MLC story. I'm kind of lost where to put it. The drama!
Johnny Depp's daughter, former partner defend star amid Amber Heard's abuse allegations
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-30/johnny-depps-daughter-former-partner-deny-abuse-allegations/7459274
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I think Paradis knows he is in mlc or certainly suspects it.
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Its like take 2 of the Mel Gibson fiasco and his x wife said the same thing, he had never been abusive, luckily there isnt a child in the middle of this one.
His children with Vanessa yes but not with ow and pretty sure their mom has them well grounded.
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Yep @Crazyjourney, I wonder if it's not true, why would she say it? If true, it could have been an accident also. Glad the exes and children are standing up for Johnny, yet will that hold any weight in the courts? I wonder are her claims even feasible enough for charges to be brought?
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I believe that Johnny Depp, most likely, DID throw the cell phone and it DID accidentally hit her in the face. If she were going to make up something related to Johnny Depp abusing her...one would think that she would say he actually hit her. (Probably the mark on her face wouldn't support actually contact with his hand or fist).
And, she is capitalizing on it...to make him look even worse than he already does.
As for his ex and children standing up for him - I don't know. He's their father and they don't was to see anything bad about him. But, quite honestly, he has not behaved very well for some time. It's time for him to bear the consequences of his actions. He left the mother of his kids (who clearly cares about him) for this gold digging young woman, 20 years his junior. He behaved like an a$$. Time to pay the piper.
I doubt the abuse claims will go very far. But, the wive will get some $$ out of him. Oh well, he has plenty of that...and will have plenty of opportunities to earn it back.
The loss of his reputation and what he has done to his family will (should) stay with him for a long time. Maybe this is what it takes for him to hit bottom and see what a jerk he's been?
Time will tell.
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Yes if he is in mlc its very likely he has acted in this way, unlike his normal self, a few lbs have had similar monster moments and I believe when the ow doesnt work any more to escape their demons they get it too.
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Do you think she would get half of what he made after they were married such a short time?
I know with spousal maintenance you have to be married for over 10 years to be considered a "long term" marriage.
If it under 10 years you would only get spousal for a limited time.
I don't know what they go by but under 2 years sure doesn't seem to be fair to give her half his money.
If that were the case I'd find some rich old man and divorce him after a year an a half. :D :D :D :D
Kidding....
I suppose it depends on the laws of the state. Their all so different.
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I was just wondering why we haven't heard any hard news, then remembered the wheels of justice ride slowly. I was in the store and of course it's all over the gossip tabloids.
Then I started thinking of the whole Brad Pitt/Angelina Jolie/Jenifer Aniston thing and wondered if you think Brad Pitt had MLC back then? if so why is he still with Angelina now? Does anyone remember how long ago that was? I just checked Pitt's age. Brad Pitt is now 52. Could he have had or having a MLC?
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Amber says she has photos of previous abuse. If that is true, it means Deep has done it before. Not a big surprise, since he is in MLC, drinks and takes drugs.
It is quite possible both Deep and Gibson had never been abusive towards their spouse/partner. They probably were not so deep in crisis, or so monster at the time.
I don't think Brad Pitt had a MLC.
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@Anjae I was referring to the public affair then marriage and fast children. Not so much abuse because I don't think I ever heard anything about abuse, then again, at time, I didn't know anything about MLC.
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If I remember right Pitt wanted children but Jennifer didn't.
He seems happy now. I personally don't think he was in a MLC.
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I think in Pitt's case it was more an exit affair. If there was an affair at all. I have seen all three parts deny it, so, who knows.
But if there was, it looks more like exit affair. Nothing in him says MLC.
MLC does not always come with abuse. Abuse often only comes with MLC. Not all MLCers are abusive.
Deep is in MLC, is a heavy drinker and drug user. The three combined are a disaster of gigantic proportions.
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Ok Thanks Thunder, Anjae. Maybe now I keep thinking of others who might be having a MLC. I'm reading many lyrics of Beyonce and Jay Z. Jay Z is like late 40's early 50's. her lyrics say there is lost love or something, then she talks about another woman having an affair w/ Jay Z. IDK does it sound like MLC to anyone else?
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Not to me. It just sounds like he had an affair. I may be unfair to him, but he never looked to me like the faithful type. I found it much surprising that Beyonce is surprised that Jay Z had and an affair than the fact that he had an affair.
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I think MLC that we see on this forum and with celebrities is not just an affair. It is usually "affair down" coupled by unusual behavior, style of dress.
I think a man leaving his wife for beautiful colleague (Pitt) or maybe just general womanizing by a powerful celebrity is not MLC.
MLC manifests as an identity crisis or "protest."
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The thing is though, they are celebrities who's life is way more private. we can't see their behaviors. We don't know details. What came to me was that in Beyonce's song she sings that 'the love is gone' on his end or what sounds to me like BD.
Face it Jay Z is NOT the most attractive man on earth, and Beyonce is uber famous RICH and beautiful. Who knows the truth yet to me if any man was Beyonce's husband he might want to hang on to her. Only in a crisis would he want to dump her, have an affair or say he doesn't love her. right?
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Deep and Gibson also are celebrities. They did not manage to hide their behaviour. I think no MLCer manages.
It makes little difference if Jay Z is not the most attractive man in the world. He is extremely rich and has power. That is more than enough. As for Beyonce being uber famous and rich and beautiful, that has never stoped the husband of a woman in her position to cheat.
People cheat on beautiful, rich and famous people. It is nothing new. No, not only in MLC would he want to cheat on her. Cheating/wanting to dump has nothing do to with having a rich, famous and beautiful partner.
If anything, celebrities lives are much more public than normal people lives. But like with any couple, we never really know what is going on between the couple. MLC behaviour, on the other hand, is very hard to hide.
An affairs does not mean MLC. Wanting to leave a spouse also does not mean MLC. It takes more than that to be MLC.
Has the love on his end ever been there? Wasn't it one of those celebrities marriages in which a famous person just marries another famous person? Famous people do that a lot. They like to marry each other, often just because.
I don't know much about Jay Z or Beyonce. They are not a couple who interests me. My idea of him is of someone who is not faithfulness prone, but I may be totally wrong.
Did you thought that someone like Beyonce, who is rich, famous and beautiful was above having a cheating husband? No one is. Because the cheating has nothing to do with the spouse, and all to do with the cheater.
Men with the most beautiful women cheat on them. Beauty is not an armour against cheating. Nor is being rich and/or famous. Come on, JFK keep cheating on Jackie. He cheated on Jackie with Marilyn Monroe (as well as with many other women), and he cheated on Monroe who knows with how many women. JFK was not in MLC, he had always been that way.
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IDK yet he did leave his record label and start his own within the past few years. another symptom of MLC - dissatisfaction with work. I really don't know, yet maybe we can keep an eye on him via her lyrics in songs she writes lol
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His record labels Dej Jam and Roc-A-Fella Records were always part of Universal Records. Almost 10 years ago he left and started a new business, Roc Nation.
There is nothing unusual for a man with such big business. Plus, it was many years ago. There are nothing in the news, including gossip ones, that indicates that he is was having MLC behaviours for years on end.
Elegance, you are trying to see MLC everywhere. People leave one business to start another. It is not like he has a nine to five job as an accountant and left it to be a rapper. Business people buy, sell and found new business.
Jay Z is far from being a saint, same as with many of those guys hip hop, but so far nothing points for him to be in MLC.
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No, I was referring to Tidal. The new streaming one he signed Beyonce on. I don't really follow Jay Z, not a fan, just many things seem very similar to MLC to me.
and you're right, I am starting to see MLC everywhere lol
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Tidal is a streaming service. These days many records are first releases digitally/on streaming. To my knowledge, Jay Z still own Tidal. Or better, one of his companies does. If you go to Tidal, the from page has some band name followed by "featuring Jay Z".
The news is that Jay Z is sueing the former owner of Tidal, because of misleading number of subscribers http://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/jay-z-unleashes-giant-lawsuit-tidal-owners-claiming-mis-sold/
Maybe he has left it in the last weeks of so, but since his name appears on Tidal from page, I don't think so.
Jay Z in itself has not much interest to me. The music business has interest to me, and he is part of that business.
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I was going to say the same about the music industry. Music runs through my veins. Pretty much all genre's.
Now back to Jay Z I really do see possible signs yet that is clearly from an outside perspective. Like I said before. Not a fan of his, yet do know many in the business.
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Amber Heard Was Allegedly Arrested for Domestic Violence Against Girlfriend in 2009: Report
So could Amber just be blaming Johnny because he is going thru MLC and verbally treated her badly either having flashbacks of 2009 incident and or just getting him back?
I don't know is US weekly a credible source?
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/amber-heard-was-arrested-for-domestic-violence-against-girlfriend-in-2009-report-w209112
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One situation does not negate the other. Amber could had been arrested for domestic violence against her by then girlfriend, and Depp could had hurt Amber now as well as during the time they were together.
Depp has an history of trashing rooms and throwing things, so it is not too far fetched to believe he could had throw something at Amber.
It is also said that Amber and Johnny's relationship was very volatile. If both are prone to be certain things, it could be that together those things are enhanced.
Add to it too much drinking and too many drugs, and the whole thing is a hot mess.
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If you're into reality tv, on Love and Hip Hop Atlanta, there is a man called Scrapp Delion who has two women and also messing around with a third woman. His main woman explained that he was going though a 'crisis'. Also his voice is cracking, I highly suspect a MLC. I have a picture of him , yet don't know how to post it.
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I just read a small thing about Johnny Depp..said he was on the road to being a musician. He said this being an actor was an "accident". He had to pay the rent somehow.
So now he can be the rock star he wants to be.
Has anyone ever listened to this band he's in?
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I was looking for this thread the other day to add Johnny Depp!
I had a huge crush on him when I was in junior high. His band was apparently very good. They opened for legitimate bands like the B52s. Then he got offered the role in Nightmare on Elm Street and just stuck with acting. (Yes, I know too much. I'm still a smitten fan, haha).
Anyway, in terms of MLC, he was with the mother of his children for a long time and left her when he was in his mid-40s for the much younger Amber Heard. From what I've read about her, she's at the very least a much less stable personality than his longtime partner/mother of his kids was.
Guess that's coming back to bite him in the a$$. Aside from this particularly dramatic break up, he also had a lot of drama over the last few years, lawsuits and legal issues, etcetera. And now he has a mohawk and is back to wanting to be a rock star.
Don't know about anyone else, but I smell the distinctly pungent scent of MLC here.
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I think so too..
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Oh well I am usually the last to ask and don´t know the names of any actors but you got me googling and this is what I found... interesting: (though I bet being famous must really add to anyone´s MLC and/ or addictions) and not make things easier
“Angelina Jolie is giving romance advice to old pal Johnny Depp warning him he may be making a big mistake marrying Amber Heard,” reads the tabloid report.
According to an unidentified friend of the actress, Jolie has “pleaded” with Depp to get a prenuptial agreement before wedding the “3 Days to Kill” action star. “Angie is worried [Depp] is going through a midlife crisis and has become enchanted with the much-younger actress,” said the insider.
http://www.ibtimes.com/johnny-depp-warned-angelina-jolie-not-marry-amber-heard-advised-get-prenup-report-1561144
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In the photo he has that same smirk you see in MLC (at least my husband) in the manic phase.
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With Depp pretty much everyone and their mother is screaming "Midlife Crisis". It is that obvious. ::) Even to Hollywood people who have seen it all. ::)
If I am not mistaken, California law only allows for half of what is earned/acquired during the marriage. Amber will be entitled to half of what Depp made while they are married, not to his previous fortune/properties.
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So, the author of "Eat, Pray, Love" has announced that she is separating from the husband she met and fell in love with during her "search for herself."
She has stated the reasons are "personal" and that they parted amicably.
They were together 12 years.
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Elizabeth Gilbert, eternal MLCer. She wrote a book called "Committed" in 2010 about their relationship. ::) Nice to see they are "consciously uncoupling". We should get bets going as to how soon she can write a book on enlightened divorce.
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She has found herself, she no longer needs the MLC husband. 12 years is a long time to be together with your MLC husband/"love".
Besides, how do we know it wasn't the husband? He could be having is own MLC and wanted out. Or it could just had faded naturally.
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I don't know Gayle King's story but her xH issued a public apology for cheating on her 26 years ago in Page Six in response to a Vanity Fair Q&A, http://pagesix.com/2016/07/06/gayle-kings-ex-apologizes-for-cheating-on-her/
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Just recently went to the theatre and saw the play "Beautiful" - the Carole King musical.
(For anyone who doesn't want to be "spoiled" and plans to see the play - STOP READING NOW.
It was really enjoyable for anyone who loves her music. I knew that she was a prolific song writer, but had no idea how many tunes she had written before she did her own album.
Her 1st marriage (which is the focus of the play) ended, as her husband (a brilliant lyricist) was completely unable of finding happiness with a loving wife, a family, and financial/critical success in a career that he was passionate about. So, throughout the play he searches for happiness through other women, drugs (although the play really downplays this), and the club night life. At one point he has a nervous breakdown and ends up hospitalized. He return home to his loving and long suffering wife - only to be back to cheating on her in a relatively short time.
Finally, after years of supporting him and listening to his angst, she says "I can no longer spend my life being concerned about how you feel. What about how I feel?" He said that going home with her to their home and young daughters made him feel "old."
We would all say that this sounds very midlife crisis, right? Carole (at the time) was 28. I don't think he was much older (they met in college). I guess we could say quarter life crisis.
After the play, I did a bit of reading on their marriage and what happened after they divorced. He married 3 more times, had more children, (one out of wedlock) and passed away in his 70's. I looked at photos of him. At a late age, he had long gray hair and looked quite ridiculous. Still attempting to grasp onto youth that had slipped away.
Was this a crisis? To me, it seems more like a way of life.
Carole also had multiple marriages - one was quite abusive. Maybe that is the music industry? I don't know.
What I saw in the character of the husband was a deeply troubled little boy who never grew up and was never able to enjoy or be satisfied with his life as it was. A crisis? I don't think so. It was just the manner in which he lived his life.
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His name is Gerry Goffin, and among others, he wrote the lyrics to Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow, that was a hit sang by the Shirelles, and The Locomotion, originally sang by Little Eva, and much latter made a huge hit by Kilie Minogue. He was three years older than her.
Since Carole also had three more marriages, I think it is more an issue of their respective ways of being, and less a quarter-life case. Maybe also the way many people were, and behaved by then in the arts & culture world. Drinking, drugs, sleeping around were all pretty common. Nowadays musicians and composers are much more clean than they were back in the 60's and 70's.
Just because someone is a troubled soul, think Hank Williams and his reckless life, does not mean one is having a quarter life, or a midlife crisis. At least I do not think so.
I think we never mentioned Richard Gere, who has been dating a woman half his age, and wanting to divorce his wife. Maybe he is finally divorced, I don't know, but the whole things was a mess.
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Photo of Ben Affleck. Look at his eyes and face. This is how MLC manifests physically, at least in my husband's case. Puffy, confused look in eye, something sort of feminine about it. Uncanny!
http://www.justjared.com/2016/07/17/ben-affleck-takes-flight-after-quick-visit-with-his-kids/
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He looks terrible.
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My H's look just like that! It amazes me how much they age in such a short period of time. And the eyes!!!!! EEEK! I think the puffy is from them crying a lot.
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On Ben Affleck: My H actually looks shockingly like Ben and now even more so as they have the same puffy, pained look and empty shark eyes.
On Elizabeth Gilbert: I bet if she wasn't so well known for the reasons she's so well known, this marriage might've ended even sooner. I wouldn't be surprised if the unhappiness crept in a long time ago and she stuck it out longer to save face.
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Affleck doesn't look so bad. I have seen far worst. Mr J, a friend who is having MLC, etc. Plus, the MLCer's look change.
They will look terrible, then fine for a little while, then terrible again, and so on.
The puffy is from the drinking. Also from lack of sleep.
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This isn't a return story but I can't find the thread we used to have about MLC in the news...eg celebrities. It's more n "out of the tunnel" story
I just read a newspaper article about Chris Evert... Left her husband of 18 years in 2006. Married golfer Greg Norman in 2008, they separated 15 months later. Now she is admitting that her husband is a great guy, thatshe broke a lot of hearts, and cites "menopausal issues" as an explanation. Sounds like MLC to me.
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Chris Evert was absolutely an MLC, she says so herself and it's been written about quite a lot.
Her long-time H did remarry; I think I read that he also divorced the second wife not long ago; not sure what the status of that is.
There have been a few articles in the past few days where she says that the menopause had something to do with it, and she describes herself and her former H Andy Mill and their chidlren as a "family without living together", whatever that means right now.
a bit of googling turned up an interview with Mill in January of this year, where he says that his greatest personal achievement was his marriage to Chris Evert and the family they raised. No mention of second wife, although the interview was about fishing (he's also an angler) so may be "airbrushed".
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Maybe the Chris Evert interviews don't make it into the Australian newspapers. But it was in the paper today and was an interesting read. Thanks for the confirmation, and further information,
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Someone posted this on Facebook, relating it to his own situation. It is about increasing number of middle aged men having to live with roommates while they pay the mortgage on primary home after a divorce.
I am sure a significant number involve MLC, either the MLCer or someone on the receiving end, if you look at the age group:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3711707/Could-demeaning-Middle-aged-Separated-kids-paying-mortgage-oh-yes-having-share-flat-divorced-dads.html
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So, we all get to see what happens when a MLCer's life goes public. It gets really ugly on the downside. How has Facebook and other social media effected your life in terms of your MLCer flaunting their new relationship for all to see?
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Wait, which one do you think is having MLC?
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Wait, which one do you think is having MLC?
Good question!
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Talking about Brangelina, I never did like how they met and he cheated on Jennifer. It's ironic that Anniston recently married, moved on and now his relationship is falling apart.
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new thread: http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=8340.0