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#110: June 10, 2015, 07:04:41 AM
Hi Stayed,

I'm at home with the flu today.  Figures.  Misery loves company.

Thanks for being such a great support to everyone here.  You have a heart of gold.

You know what?  I believe, 100%, that he will be back.  Crazy?  Maybe.  But I truly believe he will reappear when I'm at the end of all of this, when I least expect or want it.  This is how it works, isn't it?  Then the fun begins once again. 

For now, I'm going to stop all the heavy work.  I'm going to relax and go on vacation.  I'm going to spend some of my hard earned cash and treat myself.  I read this somewhere > Is your husband having a midlife crisis?  Well, what you have to do is relax, get your nails done, go out with your friends...basically what we all know as GAL.  It's probably one of the first things I read and is still the best advice.


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Re: Leading the Way
#111: June 10, 2015, 07:35:00 AM
I couldn't agree more MiMix!  Let him go.  Take back your life and start living it!  If he returns just when you really would prefer he didn't, you can decide at that time.  If he never returns, you will still be RIGHT AS RAIN because you will have rebuilt your life, so it really won't matter.

Sorry you aren't feeling well.  The Flu sucks... uggh.

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Re: Leading the Way
#112: June 11, 2015, 04:05:07 PM
Letting go.  Such a simple concept, yet so difficult to put in place.  I know it's the thing to do and my ultimate goal.  I like being reminded of it, over and over.  It's the only way to come to terms with the loss.  I know that I will get there.  It's not even about him anymore.  He is gone.  It's about me.  Letting go is about me facing this rejection and the fear of moving forward alone. Its something that a person cannot fully understand until it happens to them.  It's very hard.  Letting go, dropping the rope...it's not the end of the world.

I ran into a beautiful woman the other day.  She is about forty and has recently lost her husband to cancer.  They did not have any children.  We had a nice conversation.  We have many things in common and she is dealing with an awful lot of pain.  Yet, she seems to be building a plan for her future.  She is in the process of moving to a brand new house that is just being built.  She says it is the beginning of a fresh start.  I was so impressed that she was making such a personal move forward.  She has given me something to think about.

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Re: Leading the Way
#113: June 12, 2015, 12:05:29 AM
It really is hard to let go.  I don't think we realize that every single one of us has to LET GO!  I have to let go of the pain of this event.  Being back with my h is a constant reminder of it.  Topping it all off, there is this constant reminder of what we "could have lost", if he had not found his way through the fog. 

Without a doubt, this will never be FORGOT... impossible!  I am slowly coming to the realization that 100% forgiveness is unlikely as well.  It's not that I don't want to, I truly do, but there are so many LAYERS!  I can't believe how huge this thing really was. 

I feel really good where I am now.  There is an awareness that I must have ignored most of my life, that seems to keep me in a constant state of "gratitude".  Yea, just glad to be alive!  Glad to be able to SMILE again.  Glad to be feeling joy, peace, tranquility.  Without a doubt, Time heals all things. 

It'll happen MIMIx... :)

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Re: Leading the Way
#114: June 12, 2015, 05:18:01 AM
I agree that 100% forgiveness is unachievable.  And does it have to be 100%Forgiveness?  Not many things make it to the category of 100%. 

Like you, I had no idea of the size of this thing.  It took a lot of reading for me to realize the serious depth of our situation.  I don't listen to anything he says right now because it's all made up nonsense.  I think back to the original things he told me.  These are the truthful bits of information.  "He's never had the chance to do things for himself, care only for himself...that I gave him a lot of confidence and that I'm a really good person but he needs to do this."  It's the typical story of missing his youth and now experiencing it before it's too late.

So, how do you forgive someone who has stepped out and taken such a risk at the expense of his family?  I thought I could forgive, that I had forgiven him.  But I don't think so now that I've done a lot of reflecting.  It's such a betrayal.  I don't think he even understands.

Now I see all these little games being played.  It was just me who saw it at first but now some of the kids see it too.  We had a big family party the other day.  H arrived and  went around INSISTING on giving each of us a big hug (like we must have missed him so much) and saying "hello xxxx, it's so good to see you."  All delivered with phony sincerity.   It was all planned and scripted.  And, I thin it's all about CONTROL. As long as he is in control of his situation, his plans are going along just fine.  D2 was onto him.  When she got the hug, she was very busy with something else.  He wouldn't let her go.  She finally had to say " Yes Dad, but can't you see that I'm in the middle of something right now? Save it for later" and then stormed off shaking her head.  Heeheehee.  I wish I was as strong as her.  I really need some lessons!! 

Then post party>. I look at all the photos sent to me and on the kids photo streams ...every single photo of me has H standing next to me.  WTH?  Every single one of them.  It's just no good to even try to think of why.  It just IS what it is.

Stayed, I think it's time for some tough love.  I think it's time for me to muster up the strength I've built and give it a try.  I've given away my power, haven't I?    I 've let my power drain away.. I need to take this back...just for me.  Knock away some of that control that's giving him so much comfort.  It's time for me to step out and take some risk. I don't think I have much to lose.

What do you think? 
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Re: Leading the Way
#115: June 13, 2015, 12:36:49 AM


Stayed, I think it's time for some tough love.  I think it's time for me to muster up the strength I've built and give it a try.  I've given away my power, haven't I?    I 've let my power drain away.. I need to take this back...just for me.  Knock away some of that control that's giving him so much comfort.  It's time for me to step out and take some risk. I don't think I have much to lose.

What do you think?

Oh yes my friend, it is definitely time... Tough love, hell, I actually think of that as SELF LOVE... YOU MATTER... let him go.  Until he realizes that he is ENOUGH just as he is, he isn't worth having.  Same goes for us... WE ARE ENOUGH and what's more, we are not AFRAID to try to be more... just for ourselves... not him, not our kids... just for little old us! 

Without a doubt girl, what do you have to lose, he might leave you?  Oh wait... "he already has!"  Bye bye old hubby.  Whatever relationship you have in the future MIMIx, with or without your hubby, it will be "brand new"!  No fear! 

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#116: June 14, 2015, 06:24:23 AM
self love...YES.  It IS self love and I matter.

I've had an important realization.  I don't know where it will take me.  I don't know exactly where I will end up. I have no anger. I can see how my h's midlife crisis set itself up.  He is responsible, but not really to blame.  I can see that he tried to fight it and stay, but lost the battle in the end.  You can't fight your deep inner voice, you will eventually lose.  You can only fight for so long. 

Today, I see him fighting to hang on to us while maintaining his distance. He can't come back...he doesn't want to.  He's dreamed of being free for so long. He has risked too much to get here.  He has to see if this other life is the happiness he has longed for, for so long.  But he loves and still wants his family.  He doesn't want to lose us.

This is my realization.

I now see that my h has long carried feelings of regret for the loss of freedom in his early years...his youth.   H loves his family, h loves me, but does NOT carry the same devotion to all of us that I do.  To top it all off,  he spent 35 years working in a mysogynistic office...an office of men demeaning their wives and  complaining about the ball and chain life they lead. In those early years, he  laughed at how ridiculous these older complainers were, how arrogant they were. It's kind of funny that he turned out just like them in the end. The regret for his sad life built over the later years, coworkers supporting his fantasy...feelings festering deep inside.  "If only I hadn't gotten married, I would be so much happier".

 Never mind that our life was filled with the best that anyone could hope for.  We had money, a home, a summer home, enviable children who did not cause us a moment of grief, all now functioning adults with professional lives.  Perhaps this is why he said he couldn't quite put his finger on his feelings.  He really had nothing to complain about in regards to his family.  Yet, the feelings still lurked deep inside, a quiet rebellion brewing, a plan of escape being prepared.

 I think that I have felt it for many years.  I chose to not believe it because this was not how I felt about being married, raising a family, living our life together.  I am devoted to my family.  I get pleasure from being with my family.  I help my family as much as I can.  This is not about me.  If we wanted to talk about hardship and being undervalued, I could go on and on about me.  But I don't see it this way.  Hubby does though.  He often told me "Don't be such a martyr, take the last piece of cake...to heck with the kids."  Now I see that his urging for me to put myself ahead of family was really a longing to put himself first.  He used to laugh about the advertisement, with hockey goalie Luc Roy,  and his "it's not fair" routine.  Well, now I see THAT in a different light.  H has been crying "it's not fair" for years.

I think I'm on the right path.  I've had lots of forks in the road, but I've chosen the right path forward for me. I need to do exactly what I have been doing...leave him alone and focus on making my own life the best it can be.  I get to choose in the end.  I get to choose forgiveness, or not. I get to choose the kind of life I truly want.  He may be like others and discover that he's made a big mistake.  Or, he may finally have found happiness by being alone.  I see that he is about halfway or more towards the final destination.  Like others have said so wisely, keep your expectations low...and I am. Who wants someone, who does not want you?

Recap of all the good advice I have learned from this forum and KEY advice for all who are struggling and have stumbled across this page:

Let him go
Focus on yourself, have faith in yourself
You matter, you have value
Keep your expectations low
Treat yourself with kindness
Let go of anger
Be grateful
Put one foot in front of the other until your step feel light again

These words mean more to me today than ever before.

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Re: Leading the Way
#117: June 15, 2015, 12:50:36 AM
The one thing this forum does and does well, it leads all of us to a better life, on our own or with another, without feeling anger and bitterness.  Anger and bitterness are acknowledged, even encouraged to a certain extent but we aim for A HAPPY LIFE, without anger and bitterness, whatever the outcome. 

Let's be honest, there is no HAPPINESS if there is ANGER and BITTERNESS!  MLC is a tragedy, we cannot let it take over our lives and destroy everything we believe in.  To allow that, would be a far greater tragedy.

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Re: Leading the Way
#118: June 15, 2015, 04:06:40 AM
Hi mimix

Just wanted to say - great last post.  You sound like you arein such a good placvat the mo!

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