[Bailmor]

After our church service this morning, we have been doing a series for our adult forum with Videos from Rob Bell.  This video really hit home, whether you are religious or not.  Look at it in terms of our MLCers.  And whether there is any reconciliation or not in your future.  Just made me think a little deeper today! 

https://youtu.be/2WC-70-Otk8

Previous thread:  http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=8340.0

[bvFTD]

Now, 2 of Mr. Johnny Depp's bodyguards are suing him for a dangerous and chaotic work environment, and failure to pay overtime. Recall, 3 sets of lawyers bailed on Mr. Depp last month. It's looking quite grim. I speculate he is in the moderate stage.

[trusting]

After our church service this morning, we have been doing a series for our adult forum with Videos from Rob Bell.  This video really hit home, whether you are religious or not.  Look at it in terms of our MLCers.  And whether there is any reconciliation or not in your future.  Just made me think a little deeper today! 

https://youtu.be/2WC-70-Otk8

Previous thread:  http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=8340.0

Bailmor, this resonated with me.  My MLCer I would say is at the end or exiting the tunnel.  He is more and more like himself every day.  Yet in some ways, he is still running and I think this is why.   Part of his FOO background is a family that doesn't deal with hard things or work through them, just sweep them under the rug and pretend they aren't there. I think he is not (yet) willing and able to acknowledge the mess.  Sad, really, having to live with that kind of baggage (and one would THINK regret).

[xyzcf]

Thanks for sharing the video Balimor..I like the phrase "let God turn back the covers".

The shame, perhaps they feel it even greater than they need to (not that what they did wasn't shameful but if we are willing to forgive them, why can they not forgive themselves)...so they stay away, not even daring to say they are sorry...and every time they see us, it reminds them again of their shame.

And they think that they can forget, filling their lives with everything else but the reality of what they have given up, yet I do not think it ever satisfys them, but I also am not sure that all can face that shame and even try to make it right.

[megogirl]

Has anyone else wondered if Kate Spade was a recent LBS?

I become enraged when people blame "mental illness" for her suicide when all signs seemed to point to just one thing: her bastard husband.

And I know *exactly* how she must have felt.

[Kintsugi]

I wondered about this too.  And I wondered if Anthony Bourdain had some MLC issues.  And also Tina Turner's son. 

[megogirl]

yup well Andy Spade is now backtracking on everything - that they "dined out as a family!" and "took vacations as a family!" Sorry, pal that is not how it works and we all know that you moved out 10 months beforehand.....

[Velika]

That was my first thought. Her creepy brother in law actually kept a stand up comedy engaegement.

I think any suicide should be investigated for emotional abuse.

[nah]

It’s the first thing that popped up in my mind when I read the story.

[xyzcf]

What I read (and who knows what to believe) she had spent several years with mental health issues.