No, Barbie, not all. However, it is rare the MLCer who has an affair and does not leave and live with OW/OM as seen on HS, and in my case, real life.
My view, and the view of all real life MLCer I know who had OW/OM is that they were not solving anything. They had a crisis and an affair because they felt old and wanted to capture lost youth. Their affair sorted nothing, only brought them more problems, the loss of their marriage and LBS, them feeling like rubish, etc.. Which is the same as in HS, most here will never reconcile, most of our MLCers will lost marriage and LBS.
I don't see, and has never seen, MLC the way many here tend to see it. I see it as a result of stress, anxiety, depression and fear of aging/losing out.
I know the Jungs' theories. That is how I arrived to HS by googling Jung + MLC. The theories are very beautiful, poetic even, but they are just that, old theories that are not possible to prove and that certainly do not match what every single real life MLCer I know who got involved with OW said to me. It also does not match Mr J's "I only had now to do this" or my wallower's cousin despair of being old (at 37, Mr J was 36 when he left) and wanting a new life and wife. My cousin never left, never had OW.
After my cousin hit rock bottom I spend a very long time going with him to my friend who his a psychiatrist. All my cousin mentioned was age, he was 37 and stil didn't had this that and those, that was his problem and why he become depressed and in crisis.
You experience is different than mine. I am still to see a real life whose affair was of any use. I don't know a single one. The only use was make them lose their marriage and LBS.
I believe what the former MLCers told me. I have no reason not to. Just like people on HS believe people who have had a MLC and post about it. Since the real life MLCers I know spoke about their crisis and their reasons, I would say they know what they are talking about. They had no reason to lie. If anything, they may not want to talk about. They were very open about it.
Have in mind I had a MLC myself. For me was no individuation, no deep issues. There was stress, depression, anxiety, made much worst by my going out and about and going up and down hill like a mad woman. Being quiet would had been a much better option as well as had been given anti-anxiety meds even before Mr J left when my anxiety was already over the roof. I solved no problems. I have been in that place. I know a bit how it is like.
If my own experience and the experiences of real life MLCer I know do not match the view many have on HS, there is nothing I can do about it. It is mine and these people's experiences.
What good did the affair brought you and your husband? He was gone for 6 months because you kicked him out, as been back for years and you still stuggle with his affair and MLC. Reading your threads there does not seem a single good thing brought by your husband's MLC or affair.
Since most will never reconcile and the main reason tends to be the affair, exactly what good did the affair served?
How does OW/OM helps when MLCers spend years on end, over a decade even, having OW/OM, or several OW/OM and still remain in Replay? If OW/OM were to be of help, certainly the MLC would be shorter.
I think LBS like to make it all far more complicated than it is because it allows them to avoid, or try to avoid, a very simple fact, our spouse choose to become involved with someone and totally stop caring about us.
MLC has nothing to do with the marriage or the LBS. Still does not change the fact the affair does not help. Be it the MLCer's crisis or the chances or reconnection or reconciliation.
Also, forgiveness and the affair and all the rest that comes with MLC are different things.
The affair is such a painful part for every LBS but without it, there may be no way back for the MLCer.
The affair is usually the may reason why there will be no reconnection or reconciliation. I am not talking only about HS members, but people in real life as well. It is the affair who prevents the MLCer from coming back to the LBS because the most LBS will not want the MLCer, mostly because of the affair.
I do wish there was an easier way for our loved ones to get through this but having a good understanding of why the affair is necessary and that we were never the problem, is a good start to having a compassionate understanding while the crisis goes on.
There is. Don't get involved in an affair. If you (the MLCer) do, you (the MLCer) have to be fully ready to accept the consequences of the affair = for most never to reconcile or even to reconnect. If people think it is worthy to lose the LBS, so be it. However, all real life MLCer I know who lost marriage and LBS do not thought it was worthy. We are not the problem.
OW/OM are not always personality disordered. Our MLCer is, while in crisis, often far more personality and/or mood disordered.
I find it interesting you guys are so cool with the affair being so, so necessary, yet, several, if not, most of you, are deeply upset and disturbed by the affair. If I think something is absolutly necessary I am not going to be upset or disturbed by it.
P.S. If the affair was truly necessary for MLC/the MLCer all MLCers would need to have an affair. That is not true, some do not have an affair. They still have a MLC and come of it. Often faster than the ones who have one, or several affairs. And, of course, the MLCer who do not have an affair do not have to deal with the issues the affair causes.