[Not Applicable]

From the NHS website:

Hormone replacement therapy (HRT)
You may be offered HRT after having your ovaries removed. This replaces some of the hormones your ovaries used to produce and relieves any menopausal symptoms you may have.

It's unlikely that the HRT you're offered will exactly match the hormones your ovaries previously produced.

The amount of hormones a woman produces can vary greatly, and you may need to try different doses and brands of HRT before you find one that feels suitable.

Not everyone is suitable for HRT. For example, it's not recommended for women who have had a hormone-dependent type of breast cancer or liver disease.

It's important to let your surgeon know about any such health problems you have had.

If you're able to have HRT and both of your ovaries have been removed, it's important to continue with the treatment until you reach the normal age for the menopause (51 is the average age).

[Jackolar12]

NYM

I am not a mlcer I am a lbs. my sister is the ex mlcer.
I requested not demanded and on that note I shall leave this thread and Jackolar I apologise for the hijack

Hi Shock, your always welcome on my threads, post as much as you like, thank you and ShockSis for your understanding and help.
Kind regards
Jack

[Jackolar12]

I would be curious if the fear of Menopause can help push a woman into MLC.

I know W is deathly afraid of Menopause. She has a complete  histo and was gutted several years ago...... hormone replacement since then (and she's never missed a pill, not even in MLC.... it's that important to her).

Men don't and can't understand what it's like to face going into this, and we can't understand what it's like to go thru it. Women have so many moving parts, so complicated and intricate. So many powerful chemicals compared to us.

-SS

Hi SS, yes they have a harder time as they go through it more quickly than men, we drop gradually 1% every year past 30 while their fluctuates more. It can’t be a very nice thing to go through.
Kind regards
Jack

[Acorn]

I wonder if someone should start a thread titled, ‘Andropause - split from Menopause’.   

Seriously, though, it’s in our nature to look for the causes for heartbreaking events in our lives.  Perfectly understandable.  However, one can obsess about the causes and spend far too much time and energy on ‘whodunnit’ quest.  When is enough enough? 

The real question is, how does one let go of focussing on people and things we can do nothing about and refocus on living our own each and every day well.

Yes, MLC in women is caused by menopause. It's very clear: men-o-pause. It's when women take a pause from the men in their lives because they become o so repulsive.

This is not all joke but actually discussed rather often in books and media when the topic of middle aged women pops up. 

At a certain point in a woman’s life, she may seek emancipation from a spouse that may have been emotionally chaining her through the means of ‘rescuer’, ‘protecting knight on a white horse’, ‘wife owner’, male chauvinism, or misogyny.   Basically, she gets sick of being considered a second class citizen in her own marriage.

Just my 2 cents’.

[nah]

They don’t want to here that, Acorn, it must be “The menopause” or “The Fog”, or something else, it just can’t be that women of a certain age sometimes want to escape and just go about it the wrong way. How would we know? We don’t know their wives, we are just women of the same age who are also going through the same issues.

Also, please realize that as women we are very aware of our hormonal fluctuations since we had a monthly reminder for about 30-40 years.

[OffRoad]

And oddly enough, there were monthly fluctuations in my XH'S  mood swings (I could actually track it) but everyone seems to like to pretend that men's hormones never fluctuate. Because it shows as behavioral, not overtly physical.

[Nas]

They don’t want to here that, Acorn, it must be “The menopause” or “The Fog”, or something else, it just can’t be that women of a certain age sometimes want to escape and just go about it the wrong way. How would we know? We don’t know their wives, we are just women of the same age who are also going through the same issues.

Also, please realize that as women we are very aware of our hormonal fluctuations since we had a monthly reminder for about 30-40 years.

Not only are we, as women, much more aware of our hormonal fluctuations, we really need to be careful about spreading misinformation about the function of the human body and brain. Just recently someone made a post about the difference between the gray and white matter in women and men’s brains. They actually had it backwards.

Please remember that no one on here is an expert. No one can be an expert anyway in something that is not well understood or even recognized as an actual issue within the larger scientific or medical community. There may be people on here who are actually doctors, scientists, physicist etc., but in the end we are all strangers on an Internet forum, not researchers. And particularly with people who have no background in medicine or research or science, we should not be presenting our ideas as factual statements about the way men or women behave due to their brains or their chemical makeup or hormones or whatnot.

[barbiedoll]

I really never imagined this thread would be so active ..and rather interesting. I do not believe that menopause can "cause " a MLC reaction. I am firmly of the opinion that it is a result of childhood issues , trauma etc. I really struggled in menopause ...very badly. Sat on the cold ceramic floor and bawled my eyes out on more than 1 occasion from severe unrelenting hotflashes that were accompanied with surges of anxiety . Lack of sleep , moodiness etc etc . I tried so many products, creams , stupid teas and finally HRT. None of it helped. I was miserable and in fact still struggling with hot flashes . Did I think about running away, blowing up my family, not being "happy"...not even for 1 second. Can some women do that as a result of a normal life change ? Yes, I guess they could if there were other underlying issues. Just my opinion. My mother used to say that some women in menopause ended up in the "looney bin" … , so maybe some do loose it entirely but I doubt it is that common now.

To add a twist from my own experience , my husband was deeply effected by MY menopause. As odd as this may sound , he has repeatedly said "my wife was suffering and I could not "fix it". I could not do anything about it or to help her. I tried to help..I drove her to appointments, PU medications...but I could not help her ". He told every therapist we saw this story until I was done listening . As if he could stop menopause or be "mother nature". But ( to him) it was in the perfect -storm mix and he was reacting to it from his already struggling self. According to him , he was devastated that he was helpless and could not "fix it". 

[MyBrainIsBroken]

They don’t want to here that, Acorn, it must be “The menopause” or “The Fog”, or something else, it just can’t be that women of a certain age sometimes want to escape and just go about it the wrong way. How would we know? We don’t know their wives, we are just women of the same age who are also going through the same issues.

They don’t want to here that, Jack, it must be MLC, it can’t be that men of a certain age sometimes want to escape and just go about it the wrong way. How would we know? We don’t know their husbands, we are just men of the same age who are also going through the same issues.

Does anyone think this is offensive? Or at least insensitive?

[nah]

Maybe we should have a thread on how men cope with erectile dysfunction as they age and all the women can weigh in.